The ITX Case Everyone* Wants
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00:05:50 "Now there's a bit of custom work happening here" is one of the biggest understatements ever, having seen your previous videos on it... 😂
he made the best and most detailed build with all the mods i have seen since years
Yeah its HEAVILY modded with precision 3d printed parts specifically for that scenario. Kinda unfair comparison. Should have used the both cases with the exact same setup\pieces to compare temps and performance
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@@scorthynDoesn’t matter, T1 in its stock form is far superior to this scuffed fractal copy, I mean the fractal doesn’t even accept 240mm radiators, that’s pretty bad.
@@cactuscat8009comment back to me later, there's someone on par that even optimum took inspiration from
@@scorthyn this is what he does
reason why nobody mention the T1 cuz its barely exist just like any other small run high price ITX cases that pretty much gone after the first run. this is why people are excited when known manufactured jumping into the scene cuz you can actually buy the bloody thing
Bingo
100% this. As much as i love the T1, it has almost no presence in the mainstream PC case industry today with practically all of its target audience being in the niche sffpc community.
Specialty cases have so few manufacturers either way. If you look at server chassis availability for some reason, you got like silverstone, in-win, and inter-tech as the ones with most models, because nobody else makes rack mount chassis for non-enterprise users.
You can buy the T1 V2 pretty easily lol what are you talking about. And the Terra is pretty damn expensive for how limited your cooling options are. The Terra is basically an enlarged Dan A4-SFX with the same cooling limitations (except with the Dan A4 V2 onwards you can do 120mm AIO with losercard mod, but no chance of that happening with the Terra).
@@RanenPo give me the link to buy one right now. No waiting, no preorder just buy now
A calm, real-life true professional, who cares about details and not the show. It is soooo good to see that such people still exist! Thank you and please don't change! :)
You put exactly what I was thinking into words, it's a slightly worse t1, but it's also $100 cheaper... Very happy with my t1 and I can see this for someone who wants the t1 style build but doesn't want to pay the t1 premium and have the t1 wait times
50$
Slightly is crazy.
Significantly worse imo
Say t1 one more time
Both T1 and Terra are still very expensive.
@@novakkosanovic *$100 if you want the latest version plus the nicer finer mesh side panels
The reason why your Blackridge didn’t fit the mb with just the AM5 short backplate is because there are two AM5 socket retention designs Asus seems to be using on their B650E-I mbs. Yours has extra material around the edges which blocks the black ridge brackets. The other socket style works perfectly with the Blackridge and AM5 short backplate - no need to remove the entire socket retention mechanism and only the M.2 heat sink needs to be removed
I ran into this problem on my B650E-I too, I gave up and returned the Black Ridge and bought an IS-47-XT which doesn't require any alteration to the board.
@@elchet Did your IS-47-XT fit without having to remove the M.2 heatsink?
Feels like it's been so long since you've reviewed an itx case. That's the content that drew me to you in the first place and I love to see it.
True that, Optimum Tech convinced me to downsize into the NR200P.
So cool. I've definitely been inspired to go smaller with my next build. I remember looking at some of the cases from Dan and where I'm at here in the states these bespoke SFF cases seem to always be sold out, makes sense that higher build quality means less production volume. Incredible cinematography and attention to detail as always.
No1 mentions the T1 bcos its hard af to get. I managed to get the terra 1 week after computex launch, here in singapore. Fractal's supply chain is just better. Not to mention its so much cheaper. My biggest issue with the case were that the stock sfx psu cables are just too long and uneasy to cable manage.
If it's not available on retail, it doesn't exist in my books.
Thank you for reviewing this case. I am currently trying to decide what my next case will be. This helped significantly. Love your builds and content. Thanks.
Kinda feel sad for the t1 makers not getting mentioned at all for all their innovation and totally ripped off
So many mainstream youtuber even LTT didnt mention it at all. I don’t get it. Do they all not know about it at all?
@@terencelim3860the knockoff company probably pays better.
@@terencelim3860 ltt does limited research on their videos most of the time unfortunately
Paid to omit the mention
@@terencelim3860he does mention the t1 at the beginning and even says that others dont mention the t1 case or am i missing something?
As much as i like the t1 the terra seems like my next sff case due to availability. Make sense no one talks about it if you can't get it.
I've seen the t1 in stock more than I've seen it out of stock. It gets restocked every Sunday
@@t7274 But it's stupidly expensive, and that's before their ridiculous shipping rates
@@Notorious544d One thing is availability, and another is accessibility
never heard of FormD before, not even available in Sweden, so for many builders the Terra is the only choice between those two.
You guys have the Terra available?
the lighting in this video is immaculate
fr and its all natural
Knew it and was waiting for it. It was a matter of time that the price gauging for itx cases was laid to rest thank you Fractal Design.
The case actually in stock and easily acquirable versus the case that is more expensive and is rarely in stock.
Price difference between T1 and Terra in europe is pretty intense due to import tax
They undervalue the T1 as its comes from
China
@@RathOXDoesn’t mean shipping is ridiculous expensive unfortunately
@@Definitely_Melnyx its $35 for me. Which is cheap, im from UK, unless you live in the 3rd world its pretty good.
@@RathOXnot going to pay 35 + 205 for the case if i can have the fractal for 200 including shipping
35 bucks shipping for me, no custom fee also
i plan on buying the Terra for my wifes PC and i've seen plenty of builds for it and im familiar with the T1. the only thing i would say for either case is that i believe custom cables are a necessity. less bundling of the cables and can provide better airflow throughout the case.
Spot on review. I feel exactly the same about this case. From the adjustable spine not being original as some reviewers think, to the fact that the case is bigger than the T1, yet has worse compatibility (especially the 2 vs 1 fan, and the suffocating placement for that single fan). Case is good, but it needs work - there's a lot of potential here being thrown away.
You are correct. It was quite surprising to me how none of the reviews for the Terra even acknowledge the existence of the Formd T1. Shows how little the mainstream case reviewers know about the ITX market.
Also, you're the only reviewer I've seen who put the bottom fan as exhaust, which is the most ideal setup. For whatever reason, everyone else just sets it as intake, which makes no sense considering the Terra has plenty of intake with no exhaust.
For whatever reason, the manual for the Terra shows installing the fan as intake🤷
@@MY-qi8wq The reason is pretty obvious - air when heated naturally goes up, so instead of fighting natural flow (which goes from bottom to up) it's better to help that flow by intaking (cooler air) at the bottom
Who cares, no one can even get that case.
I'll be building in the T1 V2 within the next 2 weeks! It's so tiny I love it! It's even smaller than my meshlicious which I thought was impossibly tiny!
Unfortunately cases like the FormD T1 and Dan C4-SFX are not widely available like the Fractal is.
And the fractal is still hard to get.
completely agree, if those the T1 and C4 could actually be bought somewhere at
I live where the Terra isn't available, only the Era which remains a disappointment.
Thank you for this reivew! Great insights.
Have you noticed any issues with the PCIe riser like with FD Ridge? Is it working out of the box in Gen4 compatibility?
Feels like it's been forever since we saw an ITX case review by you.
Nice video thanks I’m going to buy it now!
Idk what's with your videos but why do they look so clean 🥴 it's so satisfying to look at the video quality.
High bitrate recording and really great colour grading will do that for you and of course the lighting, scenes.
He creates his videos on Mac that's why they look better. PC is for plebs, Mac is for Pros.
@@bmwofboganville456 ???
@@bmwofboganville456 you smoking that nasty stuff bro hahahaha
@@bmwofboganville456 who is gonna tell him lmao
What was your experience with the ASUS b650? Of all the ITX boards for AM5 it looks the most appealing to me but I hear mixed things
I have the Silverstone ML08 with handle and it definitely is time to replace the internals but i just love this case. Does this case still have a future with new hardware or is there a similar ITX case with handle that has escaped my attention? Any help is more than welcome, fellow ITX enthousiasts.
I’m about to build in this case. I’ve seen recommendations to flip the PSU in order to exhaust the GPU air pass through. Any reason you can think not to do this? I noticed your PSU was oriented for intake
That is the reason why I have been waiting to see you review the Tera first before watching others.
I've been waiting for u to review this beautiful case! Great video.
this case is amazing, i love the shade of white they went with but the green is just so unique
Did you test the temps with the bottom fan as intake?
Looks pretty different actually, as far as rectancle boxes go.
fractal looks good but prolly very heavy... i have nr200p (i dont use TG) and zotac 3090 trin OC with 84C vram temps(copper modded with putty) gpu core at 72C at 1550rpm with 390W! and ALF II 240 on side. I love it.! i have 3cm 3d printed feeting and arctic p12 SLIM 12cm fans on bottom(they cooled gpu 10C!)
Jonsbo V4, has an original layout, fits mATX board, ATX PSU, 120mm tower cooler, two 3.5 inch bay, and doesn't need instructions, it's just a cover with a lid. Cooling seams ok. i7=4790 and Evoke RX 5700XT with two Artic 80mm exhaust fans.
jonsbo...XDDDD
The side gaps make sense as theyre needed for those lambo doors
I lug my PC around a lot and switched from an NCase M1 to a Terra instead of a T1 because of the jade color! I really hope this trend continues as purely utilitarian colors feel so drab. The pop of color and wooden accents are very appealing :)
Though it does not officially support this, the spacing of the vents on the side panels allows for fan and radiator installation and I built a dual 240 loop into it using the single 120 fan mount as exhaust similar to a Corsair One. It certainly isn't as versatile as a T1 but it's a small price to pay for the better looks.
That's really cool, 3D printed clips? Would like to see some pics or a short video as proof of concept for that. Would probably encourage people to experiment with the Terra, which I also find to be a fantastic SFF case.
Any dust problems running negative pressure like that? Especially with no filters?
It was copied from the JM Customized Jimu D+. That was the first case to have the movable spine.
Damn! Good to know, never heard of JM Customised before. D+ and T1 look nearly identical.
Which itx case would you recommend for a gigabyte 4090 oc gaming with 340mm length?
Shipping needs to be factored in if you're not in the US. The Terra is available domestically, often with free shipping. The T1 is more expensive plus it needs expensive shipping to where I live.
This also comes from ideas in the Iquinix case too! Also Gamers Nexus did a test on this case I would greatly suggest seeing. Also a collab would be so sick!
what bothers me most is that it's pretty much an open case, lots of gaps and no filters.. at least it looks quite nice, wish there would be more cases with options for colours like that, the green and wood panel mix in particular is beautiful
I mean do you really need any dust filters at this point, the panel pops of tool less and you can just blow of the the dust every now and then, it’s not very time consuming.
Filters are easy to incorporate and always helpful.
@@MikaelKKarlssoni did think of that already, but how much space would it leave you with for the cpu cooler or gpu? and i mentioned the gaps because if you don't cover those up you might as well not bother adding filters. and idk if that would be practical with the mounting style of the side panels
@@kharak6204 It's like we have come full circle.
It's been so long people have dealt with computer dust, that they have forgotten just how dusty then can get after having filters for "forever".
@@CH1K3N99same people complain when their hardware starts to overheat. Take care of your stuff!
I have the terra with a b760i + i7 13700 + rtx 4070 asus dual and i have to use a ID Cooling is-60 taking of the 95mm fan to fit the mother. Then i use the 95mm fan to INTAKE air from the bottom of the PSU/GPU, i get less than 70° in full load of the GPU but the CPU is on fire, on full load i get 95/100. So i change the PL1 and PL2 to 65W, i lost performance on the i7 but i have peace of mind that i dont have to worry about temperatures. Maybe the i7 13700 is no for this kind of build.
Any suggestions?
Hi Is this case better than the Cooler Master NR200 Pro ? I built this last year and now wondering if I can build another but smaller.
the big difference i see is the availability international, fractal cases are pretty much in every pc part online store worldwide, no huge shipping or import/tax costs for everything outside of the US. thats the main reason i wont get the t1, second reason being that much higer price especially outside of the US with higher taxes and stuff. the t1 is a nice case but pretty much only for the US. since it´s way to expensive outside of the US for what it is
I like how you're playing with neutral colors, composition, lighting, and camera angles in this video
Interesting review on the terra case...im now more convinced to get a t1 case as an eventual replacement of my ancient midtower atx gaming pc
Did you get the T1 already?
@@unholydonuts no but eventually
Finally, I've been waiting for this review for months.
T1 problem is when you wish to buy it - there is no units to sell. And what should you do? Wait for case from 3 to infinity moths? No I just buy something I can right now.
Is exhausting area from the bottom recommended over intake? Seems counter-intuitive, but if it works it works.
can you review the AOC Q24G2A/BK, 23.8"? Its 1440p and 24 inch which is an interesting combination, its only like 230 bucks aswell for 165hz 1440p ips
Why would you put the bottom fan as exhaust? Would you not do intake instead for the natural flow of hot air from bottom to top?
Great video. I've noticed a keyboard change recently, is it the Flachion? Can we expect a video on this soon? and which switches did you choose? Cheers!
The shot at 9:19 made me shiver with excitement. This angle on the Terra is really attractive and pleasing, particularly with the Founders edition design behind the side panel.
Why? It looks worse than the T1.
mate? shiver with excitement?
@@ChrisStoneinator just being honest sir. sometimes the ~aesthetic~ is just that thrilling
Can you please list the 3D files from your FormD T1 build? You haven't updated the description with links
Hey optimum, im curious of your opinion of the fractal terra vs the evolv shift xt
You should do a review of the meshroom s v2. Has support for dual 240/80mm rads in a itx enclosure!
Thank you for this info.
looking forward to see your review/build on m1evo 😀😀
I'm jealous you can run 300W cards that quietly. My zotac rtx 3080 holo amp is undervolted and makes so much noise in my dan A4 case.
How did you remove the backplate off of the asus b650i? I can’t figure it out
Hey Ali! Do you think it would be worth it to flip the PSU around to suck in hot air from the GPU and blow it out the top? I’m thinking of doing this with my ghost s1 which has a flow through spine mod. Only thing stopping me is I need to get new custom cables as the ones I have currently aren’t long enough.
Lookin jacked as usual 😘 Thanks for the thorough review and comparison as usual
Nice Video mate as usual 😎 Build one with Corsair 2000D Airflow case. Waiting 🤞
At this point I think the FormD T1 is peak sff. I own both v1 and v2 I’m still using the v1 and I don’t think I’ll ever use another case for my main build.
Pray that there will not be another motherboard standard this century,lol
any plans on reviewing the gwolves hsk plus or the pro?, really want ur opinion on it
Personally i want one because of the great green color and walnut wood. It looks amazing.
Well, did you finally get one?
Cheeky lil DnB in the back really sells this to me. Love it
If you can't buy the T1, it doesn't exist.
I agree with this. It’s not like I am getting free samples from Form T1. In. The end, does it work and do its job.
Exactly
Nice review
Cool case!
Its hard not to be tempted to get another mini itx case with all the new and affordable choices but still patiently waiting for the ncase m1 evo. hopefully can switch from my old m1 v5 to it once it comes out.
Ncase was made obsolete when newer more affordable cases launch with better compatibility and availability. Having said that, would look forward to M1 evo redeeming Ncase.
@@unholydonuts maybe from a pricing stand point but I still love my build nonetheless. Keeping my fingers crossed for the m1 evo though
What monitor is that, that you’re showing the performance test on?
So ive been looking to build a new pc and its been a little bit of time since its been sometime. I actually want to build in the ITX form as I've always wanted to for so long now. would you recommend the ryzen 7 7800X3D or the Intel i7 14700k. I primarily game and stream.
ryzen 7 7800X3D is the best gaming cpu in the world rn but idk how good it is for streaming and other stuff
With the T1 being unavailable almost all the time, I wonder if a mod to the case top panel could be done to allow for a radiator to be mounted 🤔
I have created my own caseS from Wood pieces. It's light and smaller than all of this "small" cases. ❤
Did you consider or try another 120mm mounted to the underside of the case?
I’ll stick to my Dan C4-SFX. Best case I’ve ever used.
feel like ssupd did the adjuster first with the meshlicious spine, just not as many adjustment positions
Yes it is
considering this case! will an RTX 3090 fit in here? preferred PSU?
Can we request you to test something? If possible, AtlasOS seems interesting, for performance and more importantly for latency, since it increased drastically from Win7 up to Win10 or Win11.
Howdy Optimum, Could you show the clearance of any kind of GPU with an integrated AIO like the EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA HYBRID GAMING. I love all your small form factor builds but have bought myself into a corner with a GPU that has pipes coming out of the top.
Where/how in australia do you get the founders edition Nvidia Cards?
Would love to get a T1 but it seems to be perpetually sold out everywhere, so I'll probably settle for this.
Amazing Video with truly outstanding quality. I can't wait until your next video!!! With love, - Siphoni
What’s the T1/Terra like vs the A4H2O?
Not to completely go off topic, but what is the brand of the floating shelves in this room? I absolutely would love the same ones for my home.
I was founding amazing none was mentinoning the T1 too, thankfully we have you
Ali, when can we expect release of 3D printable files of custom V2 PRO shells?
Hey, I hope you can help me here. As you show in your video you can run a 7800X3D with the Alpenföhn Balck Ridge. Do you think it is possible to run this combo inside of a brand new Velka 7 with an 4070ti super as GPU? I'm planning to build my first sub 10L ITX System and just want to go a bit crazy. I know it will probably run pretty hot but I hope to get the noise a bit normal. I just want to game with this thing, no editing or else. I would be extremly happy to get a bit help here, cause I dont want to spend a lot of money and nothing works.
Keep on, i really love your content and that you push everything to the absolut Limit. Really enyoing your work here. (:
Best channel out there
Hello, have you tired the razer viper mini se?
I never understand the pricing of itx cases , ATX 90 similar company itx case 190 🤗.. but this terra is exciting.
Fractal is a great company, their customer service is so nice and helpful!
Will you be reviewing the ultralight X?
is it worth to upgrade from aoc 24g2ze to viewsonic xg2431?
About time! I thought you were going to skip this one. Phew 😄
got it in green :P really amazing design, easy to build in and its cheaper than the t1. personally love the split with the wood
Cheaper, unoriginal and much worse quality.
i got in black and i love it too