DON'T OVERREACT! It Was Just One Bad Practice for Caleb Williams | CHGO Bears Podcast
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- It wasn't Caleb Williams' sharpest day on the practice field on Thursday at Chicago Bears OTAs, but the CHGO Bears crew is here to tell you why there's no need to overreact. Matt Eberflus, Eric Washington, DJ Moore and Kevin Byard all spoke following the practice session. Hear what they had to say about Caleb's performance and a particularly strong. day from the defense. Later, we talk about the Bears most recent video on the 1920 Football Drive, chronicling the Bears' path to the NFL Draft. Join Mark Carman, Greg Braggs Jr. and Nicholas Moreano on a jam-packed Friday on the CHGO Bears. Live Podcast.
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The best part about Caleb being flung into the fire with Shane's full offense vs a nasty back 7 is that it is as early as possible. I wish Fields and Mitch were given these opportunities when they were rookies.
RIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
Guys please don't take the CHGO journalists seriously. None of this matters right now. It's just entertainment.
This is 8-9 hours later, but my reaction to the Bears' video was just that. I took it for what it was. I found it informative and interesting. Maybe Carm should look really hard at the title of this video again. DON'T OVERREACT! 😂
Carm, you are such a grumpy guy! Turning sunshine into storms. Lol. Come on dude. Get the man a rubber tree plant!
I’m hyper aware that none of this matters I’m here to hear these guys go back and forth about nothing.CHGO is my favorite flavor of meatball.
This guy gets it. It's simply entertainment.
Carm can be so hard to watch sometimes. Did he really spend 10 minutes dissecting every single word that Flus said. We know he wanted Flus fired but its getting crazy. Simply bashing him because you dont like what he said isnt reporting. Its hard for this show to have two sides of the coin, depending on the issue its just "reporting" or its okay to bash coaches or players
Carm is straight a$$!
He's quick to judge and slow to understand. This team wouldn't be where they are without Flus being Poles right hand man. They tore down totally and brought in their culture and their development plan. They didn't waiver from their way with all the hate. They didn't succum to all the hate they heard and it was/is despicable. shameful. And Herr we are. Day one they said they had a 3 yr plan. They all look like fools.
@@1Stoltzy yeah i agree with that. I just dont get the purpose of this show when they complain about fans taking their info and making it negative. But they literally did the same with Flus. At the end of the day the coach doesnt owe the media a lick of info, he could just pull a Marshawn on them and saw next question
I totally agree. It’s a complete waste of time dissecting what coaches say. I never pay too much attention to what coaches have to say all I care about is performance on the field.
Their job is to report but it's also to give their interpretation otherwise what's the point of watching them? You could just watch anyone if you want reporting.
I usually love Carm but I hated pretty much everything he said on this show. Braggs was fantastic.
Everyone is bipolar regarding who they like on this show lol
Bears fans are always on the edge. Let's give this QB room to breathe and grow. He will be great. Peyton Manning needed time as well as others.
Manning was average in post season. Yeah.. the bears and the Denver defense gave him SB wins.
@@mcfact1827Well there's a take.😒🙄
@@UR_Right24 LOL... it's not a "take". Belichick used to handle Manning on the regular in the playoffs.
At one point Manning had a losing playoff record. Look up his playoff record.
Go through the games.
Yeah he was a great regular season QB.
How do we get rid of Carm.
So tired of the Bears OTA’s already. I swear it’s reeking of we don’t really know a thing about football. He’s a rookie qb. A highly touted rookie qb but still a rookie. Go check the nfl rookie qb playbook and how thick it is. That’s a lot to learn.
Was CJ stroud a rookie last year???
@@rodgerhughes8802 yes. was Bryce young a rookie last year ?
He also didn't have 2 of his top 3 receivers a few missing lineman if I recall correctly. And they are learning a new offense. And he's going against a really good defense. Nothing to be worried about. And yes CJ was a rookie and had a very good season but that's not the norm even for great QBs. Peyton manning had like 28 ints his rookie season. And you can't jumped to any conclusion based off of 3 days of otas. I still wouldn't be surprised if. He has a better rookie season than CJ Stroud.
@@ldub8061 I’m hoping so but for me with Caleb next year is my target for him.
Carm is ok as a sidekick but when he runs the show he is off the rails.
Yes it is early...but the issues we saw from Caleb are the ones noted by many draft reports - problems finding open receivers, holding the ball, difficulty reading defenses, lack of anticipation, and so on. These issues have nothing to do with missing OL or the receiver group we basically had last year. It is an unpolished QB used to playing sandlot against college D. Will he get better - yes. Will he ever be top 10.....I have doubts. And it will take time to get sort of acceptable.
I have no problem will Nick. He's a good reporter and formal and likable. My problem was with Hoge & Carm on Thursdays show. It was shocking like a pair of spoiled brats in the first 20 minutes of that show. These guys are in a privileged position. The demands from the offense this early in OTAs with new OC new QB new players new system. Is a stretch patience needed. Don't be so concerned with the past.
I would be more worried if the offense was ahead of the defence this early. Especially with the defence with a 3 year head start.
Nick is the only Pro on this show !!!!!! Brags and Carm act and sound like two Dopes !!!! lol !!!
The media reported there were 3 completions, but never puts it into context. Like, of how many throws, or how many picks. If it was 3 of 30, that’s a lot worse than 3 of 10. Plus, it was a lot of second stringers going against the top 5 defense in the league.
Because the media is not allowed to report the exact details. We are not allowed to log and track all the plays. It's a rule.
Guys, remember that this Waldron offense isn't exactly the same as Getsy's, so the entire offense is learning new things, not just the new guys.
And Carm, Gerald Everett has probably the most knowledge of this offense as he's been with Waldron before and is an outstanding vet.
Lmao weren’t Bears fans trolling us for that JJ McCarthy throw? But now they’re crying how it’s just practice? 🤣🤣🤣 Damn hypocrites!
The difference is Caleb struggling isn't a gif now. Lol.
@@josephpayton7522What’s a gif ?
“We’re talking about PRACTICE” -IYKYK
💩 happens better now then the season, he has a lot to adjust to, he's a freshman in the NFL he'll figure it out. - a Fields guy
Big fan of Carm!!
Love his energy and off beat analysis!
Saw CHGO headed the "Caleb struggled" post and wasn't surprised. This channel blows and I'm happy to say I don't give you guys the time of day anymore. Outside of writing this post
We reported what we saw. Sorry that bothers you.
Greg, Mack was traded for at the beginning of Mitch’s second season, not his third. His first full year as a starter.
Yes but his first year at training camp was mitchs 3rd year
@@BraggsInTheStands Ahhh. I realize the point you were making now.
Carm my guy what are we doing lol
He said defense first because he’s a defensive minded coach. Pushing them to excellence only will make Caleb that much better. Literally the first point you guys made
Better go back and listen to DJ last year, he said he doesn't do any personal training and eats whatever he wants in the off-season!😊
No offense is going to be perfect,i don't want to hear negative remarks about rookie QB and wr ,new coaching schemes
Oh now he's a rookie? A few months ago he was the next Patrick Mahomes. The kid was trash in college and it will carry over to the NFL.
And what rookie WR are you talking about? Rome Odunze who is already injured after the first rookie mini camp practice in shorts?
27:00 is when carm turns into toxic carm
Thank you guys for putting out content every single show. It’s sucks how dumb a lot of bear fans are and don’t understand simple reporting , keep doing the good work ! And don’t fire carm , just limit him to 10 minutes of solo talk a show. I think that’s fair
first few practices in a new system with new players..people gotta chill out, and trust that its a process that doesn’t happen overnight
idk what carm's obsession is. Maybe Flus keeps bringing everything back to the whole offense because it's new for all of them not just caleb? Plus they're going against a defense that isn't learning a new system so of course they're ahead
If I keep hearing Williams is struggling... Anyone ever think the whole offense is learning a complex offense... Ever think playing against a top 5 secondary in there 3rd year together.. Ever think not having odunze and Allen and playing with bottom tier WR's Ever think the WR's making a wrong angle a wrong assignment so he has too hold the ball longer .. Caleb throws too spots on the field and it's required that his receivers be in that spot.. if there not in that spot who they gonna blame caleb.. It's a TEAM SPORT give the team some time.. Its not Williams is struggling its the offense as a whole is struggling...
If Houston can do it, we should be able to at least match. That's the new bar, right? ✌️
Good Hoge isn't there.
Remember Hoge said daily that the ball should never hit the ground on seven on seven’s! That guy is a creep every incompletion or anything JF1 did was media driven scrutiny!
maybe dont doom post....if you rewatch that stream all you guys did was panic and make it seem like it was over for the year already. especially carm, he was looking liek he gambled his house away. it is your fault...you are the media, we are just people that listen or read what you report. take account of your own actions, dont deflect on the fans for your poor work.
Who has a better record Pitt or chi
Brags mentioned the safety situation, and I think it's more of a story than anybody is mentioning. We needed two safeties this offseason, and only came away with one. Eddie Jackson was replaced by Kevin Bayard. That was a good move, but let's face it ... Brisker gets injured every year. We need a backup ready to step up at the safety position. Elijah Hicks wasn't ready to step up last year. Is Jonathon Owens good enough to step in as a starter for perhaps 5-6 games? That's a guy you should be watching in practice. I don't have any faith in Hicks at this point.
Hicks is on the team because he is talented. If Owens beats him out for that 3rd spot, we're even better
Nick knows exactly what tweeting that bullshit was gonna do which is get views... It's fucking clickbait cause he knows the fanbase
Oh, I'm sorry, were you at practice? I tweeted what happened at practice.
Someone should ask him a tyson Bagent question
Bagent deserves a chance to compete period.
Come on we all knows he will struggle this will make him better he's playing against a good defense so let's go bear's.
No one know “what” they are actually practicing…
It’s not like game mode with every play. Meticulous things are detailed over the outcome.. anyone whom practices anything knows what I’m saying. Driving range with golf. Grip, follow through. Muscle memory. The last thing that matter in practice this early is the outcome
Exactly. They are not playing a football game at any point until they are ACTUALLY playing a football game. That’s the outcome. It comes later, not now. Reporting stats, completions, wins is for people who don’t have the self control to wait. Basic bitches, basically.
Many of us said DONT DO IT!!! he will be the biggest bust in the history of the NFL, .when he stinks it up when it counts, please hang in there because it won't be pretty.
Does Nick know exactly the assignment's the angles the bottom receivers was supposed too do.... Everyone is learning who knows how many players messed up ...
How come every other player has to earn a spot except QB.
This isn't Madden it's going to some time.
The problem with 7-on-7 is the defense never plays honest because you never run the bal and technically it's 5 receivers vs 7 defenders because the Center and QB can't run routes (Yes, I know real football will be like this also)! The NFL is all about keeping the defenses out of alignment and honest. What good is an RPO or Play-Action to keep underneath coverage Linebackers from getting deep quicker than your cross route when it's a great deal of your offense and you can't even use it to exploit anything? 7-on-7 is so overrated for a defense anyways, they know it's always, PASS-PASS-PASS! I'm guessing Caleb was holding on to the ball because every player on defense knows it's a pass, so they are never out of alignment to get burned between zones, deep, or over the middle to allow for bigger throwing lanes! I can't imagine there were any throwing lanes when every defensive player knows for a fact it's a pass to 1 of 5 different eligible receivers! Don't get me wrong, it's awesome that the defense is playing well though!
When they have 7 wins what will you say
Wtf is happening about the Flus talk???
It is how we get there not if we get there in practice
That's one of the dumbest quotes I've ever heard in sports. If you can't get there in practice there's no way in hell you're getting there in a game.
That's like saying you don't need to practice.
Muhammed Ali used to look like shit in sparring. Fight night was always a different story. It's not even training camp.
Damn thats the same exact person thats qb for the bears now! Legendary Muhammad Ali #18. Same exact person so same exact results obviously! So obvious!
If it was Justin the sky would fall
We have to allow for a learning curve. Let's not ruin another qb by putting too much pressure and too many expectations on him and the offense too early.
All I’ve seen is media and everyone on Twitter tell people to calm down and not overreact, but I don’t actually see anyone overreacting? Think y’all are maybe too consumed by the few negative comments
I've seen the ding dongs that think CW is a bust overreact. They were saying, "I knew it. Tried telling everybody since day 1." "I knew I didn't like him"
Basically, they're making themselves look stupid af based off 1 practice rather than an entire college career. I'm trying to make a list of people I see saying this shit so I can drop a list
If you understand football, you don't ever pay mich attention to this stuff. He's learning a system. 2 lineman and 2 receivers were out. This isn't anywhere close to a finished product. It just started. That's why we can't overreact. Now, if this was season 4 and we dealt with this for 3 prior seasons, then I'd say it's okay to react to this negatively.
Had to turn this shit off. Carm being super annoying.
Bro touched his face and looked away from the camera when he said he wasn't concerned. He's lying.
What! A rookie qb looked bad verse a bunch of veterans on defense? Shocking! Take a break boys, have a beer,cook a steak, watch some baseball. Nobody knows a damn thing this time of year stop pretending you do. See yall in September
You guys are complaining a lot…
Yall ain’t say that about JF and he didn’t have near the weapons.. I don’t wna hear any excuses
Playoffs for 2024.... Is the expectation
That's because one minute they liked Fields and the next minute they jump ship. How come no one is talking about Tyson Bagent having a better OTA'S than Caleb? He's a smaller, slower, weaker version of Justin. He can't play in structure, he stares his receivers down and he's literally only taken 5% of his snaps from under center. Now you guys are wondering why he struggled against a good defense like that's something new. Watch his college tape against top 25 defenses and there's your answer. I can't wait until the season starts and he cries in his mommy's lap again.
@@mcfact1827lol until week 1
@@anthonychounard5637 where did you hear this about bagINT?
@@mcfact1827 You can literally watch the footage yourself from OTA'S.
I know reporters are going to report whatever happens in practice, good or bad, but you are also naive to think that reporting on this QB especially will get blown out of control. So Nick reporting on "near interceptions" was turned into a story that Caleb threw 7 interceptions and was benched during OTAs. Not really your fault that people are idiots, but still a little your fault for reporting on "near interceptions" which is just not something I have ever heard reports say before. Y'all need to level up the reporting tbh.
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@@CHGOSports Yeah...I said that...but again, you are at fault for reporting on "near interceptions" for your own engagement. Wtf is a "near interception?" Could have been a catch that was run for a couple yards that maybe a DB got a finger on, or it could just be a regular incompletion. Were the throws from Mahomes last year that went right through the hands of Toney and into the hands of the defense "near catches?" No, those were just called interceptions and showed that Mahomes needed more help from his receivers. Should have just left it at incompletions and running out of bounds like Nick said on the show. Otherwise its just vague reporting that reads as negative bias for engagement. That's the bit I am asking you to level up.
Carm came off as a huge d bag in his thoughts. What did he want them to say and show? It came off as expected and actually had more info then the bears normal. Badass carm don’t work, sorry.
Carm needs to stick to tennis or something else because he can’t cover this team without being negative about every fuckin thing
Oh doh! Spend 20 minutes whining about the information eberflus provides them. I wish he would just say this, I wish he would say that. Then, immediate 180 and tells fans you get what you get ( from us ) and you don’t throw a fit. This episode should be titled, “Sauce for The Goose, Stupid.”
He is going to fail with this team and these weapons and you will make excuses
seasons over. see ya'll in 4 years for the next coming of Christ.
But hey just put Caleb was horrible in practice as your headline lol.... The headline is the offense as a while struggled on day 3... End of story move on
😂 everybody on here has been(since draft day) bears are a 10 win team.
This is more likely a 3-14 season be thrilled if they get more than 5 wins
You'd be lucky if that prediction came true. Based on the talent and the unfavorable schedule, I'd say our guys win 8 games. We have a talented but young offense. Talented defense that will struggle on the line and pressuring the qb. The schedule is going to absolutely suck. So I'd imagine we have lots of injuries pop up this year due to lots of games played in a short span. CW will have rookie growing pains. 8 win season. No way in hell do we regress to 3 wins from 7 last year.
Doubtful. Lay off the smoke it making you soft
I'm pretty sure rypien could win 3 games this year. Go back to soccer
Can you please replace Carm! Dude hijacks every show with his terrible ramblings and bad takes.
Why so dang mean....Just why?
@@MrTheonemrb because it's popular and he's tryna fit in. Carm is part of the allure to this show.
Not for me! Honestly I stop watching 90% of the time when Carm is hosting