Terry Riley - 'The Dream' for justly tuned piano - Live in Rome 1999
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- Commissioned by the Kanagawa Foundation, 'The Dream' is a lengthy improvisatory piece for solo piano in just intonation. It is something of a sequel to Terry Riley's 1985 cycle 'The Harp of New Albion', also for justly tuned piano. This recording is from the work's premiere performance where Riley joined Philip Glass, Michael Harrison, and Charlemagne Palestine in an evening concert of selections of each composer's music for piano.
Performed by the composer.
Recorded live at the Palazzo delle Esposizioni in Rome, Italy on November 20th 1999.
me and the squad were on mushrooms tonight and i put this on, after like 15min my friend said it was too existential so i changed it to charli xcx- click and everyone started screaming
HELL YEAH
short story kudos ... love that anecdote. When you're next in a space zone pop on 'Force Majeure' by Tangerine Dream. That's a blast!
love and light
The screams were of horror, werent they?
This is really a stoner jam. And that's why I like it☘️
SAW THIS GUY AND A SCION OF HIMS IN EARLY 2020 BEFOR THE VIRUS. IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PERFORMANCE!!!
This concert and those in the same series at the @palazzoesposizioni were mentioned at the end of _Temperament: How Music Became a Battleground for the Great Minds of Western Civilization_ by Stuart Isacoff.
I remember listening to Philip Glass rehearsing before the concert.
While listening to this and at first being aware of the sonority, I was caught up in the great discussion below (@Ray Zappa). So while my attention was diverted by reading, I noticed that the Just intonation had become less "unusual" to my ears.....A long way to say that maybe there's something to be said for less attentive listening.
I like this. I like TR's explorations in general and in principle. In addition to the piano tuning it could be the mode of this piece (I'm not aware of its declared key or mode) . It's always a challenge to make 'good music' with an uncompromising mode, such as some of the Messiaen modes, or even some natural key scales. Not everything results in sweetness and light. But I like this for what it is, and is trying to be - a continual thought process by the composer/performer.
Spot on
Me ha recordado al Koln concert de Keith Jarret;gran músico Terry Riley!
Terry riley actually did a concert with the great jazz musician don cherry at the same koln hall I believe within the very month that jarret did his! Look up "terry riley don cherry koln"
There are at least 2 versions on CZcams. If it's poor quality look for a better one. One of them is great quality
this goes hard
This piece of music is very interesting compared to La Monte Young's playing and concept of a different tuning on "The Well Tuned Piano". I was struck by how "Terry Riley" the notes immediately were when I first heard them.
Also taking note of some information given by Riley in an interview, it was interesting listening for his 'awaiting' for new musical modes and phrases coming to him through mediation. I wonder how much time he's spent beforehand with this particular piano/tuning finding the interesting interplays of notes.
Very beautiful and pensive music
The best of our planet ❤ music onto God
What ratios does he uses here ? I think I'm hearing septimal and/or undecimal intervals, but also others I cannot identify. (I don't have a great ear when it comes to identify notes anyway).
Très intéressant. Merci.
superbe merci beaucoup
I'm intrigued why I don't find the just intonation very pleasing on the piano whereas I really enjoy the electric keyboard piece Shri Camel which is also just.
I'm not criticising the composition, just that it sounds like an 'out of tune piano'!
@@RayZappa this piano probably has a different JI tuning
@@RayZappa strings with a lot of tension have a different series of overtones than an organ, an example of inharmonicity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inharmonicity
@@RayZappa This one is quite a bit thornier than Shri Camel as well, using more "out-there" intervals frequently, as well as notes that are a comma off from simpler ratios and/or each other. Just from what I can hear.
Like david says, I also think it has to do with inharmonicity ,the piano itself is an instrument that was developed and designed to work strictly in 12-edo and so I would think that given is timbre would naturally work better with 12 aswell ,one of the problems about microtonality to me is that it isn't just about picking a different tuning or practice of tuning but should also be incorporated into the design and sound of the instrument itself aswell ,basically a whole new diverse family of instruments would have to be invented to accomodate different non western tuning systems and sound natural in the same way 12-edo sounds natural on the piano...