Bought this keyboard today to use with my Pi 3+ B. Also plugged it into my laptop running Linux Mint 18.3. It recognized the keyboard immediately. No head-aches with drivers. I don't really like the rattling sound from the keyboard while typing but for the price, I will live with it.
@@Whigu I'm willing to bet that Microsoft pays Logitech to not put that on there. Of course as we know the reason is Linux is the most used operating system in the world and FOR GOOD REASON!!! Switching to Linux was definitely in my top 5 things I have ever done. I can't tell you how much I have saved not smashing computers out in the driveway. By the way for those who are curious, Linux is FREE and can be customized 100%, not 50% or 80%, 100% Go make yourself a live USB and give it a try.
For the people who use it for Smart TV. The volume buttons above the mousepad dont work on Smart TV. Use the FN button + F8 for mute, F9 to lower volume and F10 to raise volume. 👍
This keyboard is almost indestructible! I have dropped this countless times, spilled stuff on it and my 2 year old daughter has stood on it and kicked it.. everything still works perfectly.. has outlived my £60 apple keyboard with a lot less abuse!
Fantastic review, I am surely late to the game buying this but it was on sale and I needed it. So glad I found your review with the full break down of the keyboard! Thanks so much! Cheers and subbed! Keep rockin it 😎👍 P.S. Wonderful cat!!
Thank you for the overview - one note: with ANY media/TV keyboard the MOST important feature is the "Backlight" keys, but I guess it is not an issue for this review.
Thank you for a nice thorough review of the keyboard. This review is streets ahead of others as it was deeply informative of the functionality of the keyboard and software where as some people just unboxed and commented on the keyboard ergonomics alone without addressing the software side of things, comparisons with the previous model and potential uses. Thank you for a good review as my Dad is looking for a good HTPC keyboard as he's trying to juggle a mouse and a keyboard, where I told him to get an all-in-one keyboard and that yellow top corner mouse button only seen on the K400 and plus looks like a winning feature to me. I like the vid and might subscribe if your other reviews are as of good quality as this. I find it's best to have a good look at the other content before subscribing as I'd rather commit to a subscription for life rather than unsubscribe later, hope you understand!
wow, I didn't notice the yellow button is left button. That's awesome concept and I totally see that useful. Bought the keyboard as home recording musician where there's piano on my lap and guitar in my hand and I still have to use keyboard and mouse to record ;)
@@michakowalski2930 I just bought the K400+ tonight for my piano "keyboard station." Should be very handy with my computer and monitor to work with CZcams tutorials and play along with recordings. Wireless..... Nice!
Can the Logitech K4000 PLUS Wireless Keyboard be directly connected to the UA40K5000AK model Samsung TV or the Logitech K4000 PLUS Wireless Keyboard be connected to the UA40K5000AK model Samsung TV only via PC?
I’m gonna get this for my Steam Deck OLED and for my Lenovo Legion Go handheld gaming PCs, I have the mouse already just gonna connect both to the Unifying receiver. Thanks for the review!
Thank you for this comment i was wondering and just scrolled through and was like hopefully someone mentions Raspberry Pi thinking of getting for the Pi 4. Thanks
I have one of those keyboards with a mini PC I use for casual gaming and media consumption and it is indeed really comfortable and the batteries last for long time. I wish there was a spanish layout version too.
Could have been possible to put the freaking cat outside before starting to shoot? I mean, it's not live video, I asume you prepare your set before shooting. Or you just suddenly turned on your camera and said: "let talk about mhhhh..... the keyboard". Not! Put the cat outside before shooting please.
The original k400/r design was better in my opinion. My biggest gripe with the newer version is the uneven arrow keys. The split up/down arrow completely throws of scrolling for web surfing and word processing. It would possibly have been a keeper had all arrow keys been identical in size similar to the k830. Returned both Black Friday bargain price K400 Plus to amazon and bought two backup k400/r versions from Walmart locally. I consider myself a decently fast typist, and I’ve never used the right shift key.
It all comes down to how you use something I guess. I can see why you would find the split arrow keys as a deal breaker just as I find the small shift key a deal breaker.
@@TechHarvest ... There was a deal on slickdeals.net, so I bought two. I really wanted to love it seeing as how I loved the original k400/r. After testing out the Plus for an hour web surfing, I kept hitting the wrong key - the right shift. It was kind of maddening. I’m a right shift key virgin; I don’t think I’ve ever use it on purpose or by accident. It would have been a different story had the arrow keys were all the same size like the k830 - too expensive considering the k400/r is roughly $14.99.
There is one serious flaw with this product. There does not appear to be a way to change the frequencies or channels in a case where you might be using two or three of these in close proximity. For example if you wanted to use one for a computer and then another for say a TV in the same room or adjacent room.
Another great review! Currently typing this comment with this very keyboard from my HTPC using the same LG TV you reviewed a while back, best and most in depth reviewer out there, if TechHarvest recommends a product, rest assured knowing his reviews are completely trustworthy. Thanks man!
Does it support: 1. Lg Smart TV running web os (OLED C7T) 2. PS4 Pro 3. Firestick 4. Mac(book Pro) I own all the above devices. Does it support multi device switching on the fly too?
Might have to get this. Been using the K400r and it's not bad but having the shift key be a smaller button directly to the right side of the page up key kind of kills the keyboard for me.
@@TechHarvest Hi! Been playing with it for 2 weeks now. Folks really need to download the "options" to modify some of the features. I turned off the "smooth scrolling" because the feature tended to scroll the text ahead of itself. Changed the "sleep" feature to "OFF" as something kept waking up my computer. Also turned off "zoom" feature as using 2 fingers to scroll sometimes triggered the zoom feature instead. I think it's great that the keyboard software allows for this customization. I would not have known this possible without your review. Love that I can now control my bedroom TV (hooked via HDMI cable to nearby computer) from the comfort of my bed :) Thanks again for your review, you did a thorough job of it!
I actually just prefer the original K400 as it has larger up&down arrow keys as well as a power-off hotkey (which may work with the Plus if you use the function + sleep command but I won't take the chance). The original K400 allows you to scroll with two fingers as well. There isn't a left-click button on the top left-corner though. I would also say, an improvement that could be made to make it absolutely perfect would be if it were backlit but that would increase the cost and the shift key has been made larger. Still, the original Logitech K400 is pretty essential if you like to use want a keyboard with your HTPC/media center. I personally use mine with an Ouya and a Chromebox and it's perfect for me (aside from it not being backlit).
Hello Great video I would like to use all the "12 function buttons" directly on Smart tv. I connected it directly to smart tv without software option. Strangely the only function button that works actually is f5 - search . How should I activate the others ? Thanks i need Just a "back" button ( think is f1 ) and "turn off / on tv" (ins) that of course are on the remote too :)
I would have expected functionality such as play/pause, forward, backward and stop to have dedicated keys and not just FN ones. Strange for a keyboard that even the manufacturer claims to be a great media keyboard.
like the idea of turning off the zooming and clicking. but does the software actually change the keyboard, or only the way the computer interprets it? in other words if you changed the settings, then used the keyboard on another machine, would it still bring those changes with it?
Useful review, nice talking. 3+ years video, Logitech K400 Plus still on sale, still of interest. Has Logitech released any other wireless touchpad model, for average users?
Thank you. Logitech released the K600 but it's more pricey than the K400 Plus. You can't really beat the K400 Plus for functionality or value. If you're willing to spend more, there are other options out there.
They clearly messed something up. I bought a K400R back in 2014, and I don't remember having so many issues with it, compared with what I have to deal with this new yellow K400 (the new one with yellow details). And it all started with extremely stupid design choices. They got rid of the "shut down", "home", "music" and "lock" shortcut buttons on the left top of the keyboard, and replaced it with a single "right click" yellow button. I have no idea why anyone thought this was a good idea. I do not know what its role is besides sitting there looking stupid, and useless. I used to be able to shut down my computer with a single keyboard shortcut click while I was falling asleep, now I have to actually do it. Very stupid. Another stupid take from logitech was the new layout of the directional arrow pad. The up/down keys are basically the size of a single left/right key. It looks incredibly cheap and cramped, and it should definitely be a dealbreaker for anyone interested in playing videogames. I never liked playing with WASD keys, but I had to learn because of this. Now, to the hardware itself. The "yellow K400" definitely feels cheaper the original K400R from 2014. I had to send back the first one I received, because the left mouse button came broken. Well, turns out it's still garbage. You actually have to press HARD to trigger the left click. Simply "clicking" on it won't do. The result is a noisy mess, even the keys themselves have a very unpleasing feeling. I'm not a big fan of highly sensitive "gaming type" keys, but typing on this things turns out to be extremely displeasing and the keys are extremely stiff after 3-6 months. Sure, there might be dust or whatever below them, but I never had something like that happen on the old version, which I treated even more poorly. But as pointed out, the trackpad is probably the worst part of it all. It is not a joke, this thing triggers itself for no reason at all, often causing embarrassing situations such as ; accidentally sending message, closing tabs, programs, or simply glitching you out of whatever you were doing, because of accidental (left/right) clicks, and buggy finger tracking. Sometimes it just stops tracking and you need to turn it on/off before it glitches you out of that very long CZcams comment you were trying to write about it. The trackpad's texture is also trash and a definite downgrade from the earlier version. It doesn't feel like a trackpad but rather cheap plastic with zero grip. Another deplorable thing to point out is the firmware itself. That required Logitech driver thing is textbook bloatware designed to drain usage data, while not even letting you customise this thing properly, besides a couple of very rudimentary options. For instance, I would like to be able to change the "Scroll" and "Pinch to zoom" behaviour, because right now it is *ABSOLUTELY UNUSABLE* . "Scroll" has no effective sensitivity adjustment settings whatsoever, to a point where the slightest scroll will send you down of a 2600 pages pdf. "Pinch to zoom" is not actually what it says it is. While using a browser, this will simply change the scale of the page (like a mouse wheel does), instead of zooming on a particular portion of the screen, which is expected behaviour for any recent laptop or any other "finger pinch operated" mobile device. Not only that, but the two "functions" are conflicting together in a way that you can't use the "CTRL" touch for a few seconds after having used the "Scroll" function (because the "scrolling act" somehow stays in memory for longer than it needs) otherwise it will simply augment the size of the page to 500% ( or 25%, depending if you were scrolling up or down ). This infuriating nonsense will significantly slow down your browsing experience, especially if you're used to keyboard shortcuts, such as CTRL+T to open a new tab, or anything CTRL-related really, you will encounter the +500% accidental zoom. Anyone can replicate (one of many occurrences) of the issue by opening Google, scrolling up energetically, waiting 1 second and pressing CTRL. Anyway, terrible product, terrible company. It is cheap, but yeah it is not good anymore.
I've been using the K360, which a the 10 key instead of the pad, and I really like it a lot. The Logitech keys just have a great feel that enables the ability to type, at least for me. ps. I like your tuxedo kitty's timing. I've had a couple around for many years, and they have really funny personalities.
+Charley Jackson The K360 looks like a nice keyboard. Logitech makes great peripherals. Both of my cats have lots of personality. The female in this video is quirky and she always makes me laugh. :D
@@TechHarvest She's not as quirky as some people posting negative comments..... Odd how people who pay nothing to read people's helpful posts are so grouchy and hateful! I enjoyed your comments and your beautiful "Sylvester" cat.
Amazon the price was $25, Walmart $20 I bought my third one and a bottle of clear nail polish to coat the keys because after several years the letters start wearing off, I like the little keyboard just fine.
My favorite improvement for this by far is the function keys. So many times would I accidentally hit the "sleep" or "lock PC" key and it would be so frustrating. So happy it's a function key now
+flappyman123 They made a lot of great refinements with this keyboard. It's really hard to beat this one, especially for the price. I will be reviewing 2 other keyboards in the near future. So we'll see how they stack up.
Have one, but doesn't work after two days. I replaced the batteries thinking the originals were gone but nothing. Had a great deal of difficulty when it worked with the sensitivity of the pad. It made it extremely difficult to select. At this point I get no response or pointer on the screen. Like I said it worked for maybe two to three days with my Chromebit, then nothing.
Mine arrived on Sunday from Amazon, works really well, but doesn't really make that much of a difference from the TV remote because the Browser is slower than Christmas! Oh, well............live and learn.
Thanks for the review. I ordered one already. It was more because it had a touchpad and not a separate mouse and it was the only cordless or one of a few, that had a silicone keyboard cover available from china. I use the keyboard in the dining room as multimedia and it is subjected to food residue at times. However, I would not have called this a multimedia keyboard as it does not have any media controls. Stop, play, pause, forward and backward. I regret the fact that it does not. I hope the touchpad works better than the existing keyboard I am using now, which is a Gearhead. With dirty or greasy fingers its touchpad is horrible and unreliable now. I would not say it is a result of my fingers because I have a thinkpad laptop and the touchpad on that is flawless and accurate with dirty fingers or not. Why can't all other touchpads work as well as on the thinkpad. I have found most other laptops from all brands work poorly compared to the thinkpads. It is really sad. I hope this touchpad works more reliably than the gearhead and more like the thinkpad.
it needs to be backlit and show is caps is on and off and some models have the @ at some were else on the keyborad and doesnt even work they needa fix that to this is a update from 2020 as they still sell this out of date thing
I just bought the minix z64 windows. Will it work on a windows machine? I like the fact that you can hook up several devices to the kb. This means you dont have to waste an extra usb port on for example a mouse. Does the predecessor has that feature also? Do the batteries last? Minix own remote has problems with that.
Trusteft The K400 has a slightly different layout, with the Shift key to the right of the arrow keys. The K400 seems to support Linux just fine, although the customization software is not supported, and some function keys may not work properly.
sebastyjon360 lol... wifi keyboard??? It may use a 2.54 ghz signal, but that's not wifi. :P Look... the video clearly said wireless. Does it matter if it's 2.54ghz wireless or bluetooth? Is that going to be the difference between a sale or not?? It's wireless.. you don't need to be physically connected to the pc... that's all that's important. It's not like you need to buy a new piece of equipment to get it to work.. the dongle comes with it. Good grief. And if you really wanted to know what it used... google is your friend. Try BestBuy.
FruitCakeNinja btw... sorry, I should have just said earlier... it comes with a 2.4 ghz "unified" receiver. I have one, as well as a logitech mouse with another receiver, and they only work for the units they came with.. I can't pair them on one dongle. As for the keyboard itself.. I find the mouse pad a little irritating.. it's too sensitive, and I wind up opening things I don't want to open. I'm sure there's a way of turning off the 'tap to click' function on the pad itself in Windows, but I use it with a Raspberry Pi running Kodi. Also.. just for future reference.. if it says wireless, it means 2.4 ghz or whatever frequency they're using. It'll say bluetooth if it's a bluetooth device. Wireless keyboard, bluetooth keyboard, etc. cheers.
Thx. for the video. I'll copy John M. below: "Thank you! I could not for the life of me figure out why they put that random mouse click button there. Now it makes total sense."
Hello @TechHarvest -- Does Logitech make a backlit version of this? I have been all over Amazon for 48 hours looking and looking for ANY keyboard that is: This size (width), has a touchpad, is backlit, and Bluetooth, and connects to both Macs and Android devices. Nobody i can find makes this -- which i cant understand... Any recs? Thank you
It seems my "end" key does not work without me using the "ctrl" key, is this normal? Also my page up and page down don't work. Is there some I should be doing to active? I do a lot of typing and really need these features to work.
my k400 plus is not working with samsung 32" smart tv 2016 (ue32k5600). Tv shows only 'bluetooth keyboard & gamepad' options! not 'select keyboard'. pls help if any solution
I don't see myself ever using a wireless keyboard with my computer unless that is all that becomes available. I have a laptop with a track pad etc. and I can't stand using it. :p I also don't see myself using Windows 8 or higher. Even if they are giving it away. :P Loved seeing the kitty walking through. ;) - Heidi
+BlackCat2 For my non laptop computers, all I have is wireless keyboards :D Windows 10 is pretty good if you like Windows 7, but really at this point there's no real reason to upgrade if you don't want to. The kitties always like to barge into my reviews :D
TechHarvest Yeah I don't want Windows 10. They have annoyed me anyway but putting that crap on my laptop with the automatic updates pestering me and my son to install Windows 10. I told my son he will not install it. :P If he does he won't use it anymore. lol. I have manual updates on my desktop so they will not get me with that. :P Even if they did I would just get another hard drive and install my good copy of Windows on it. About time I added a new hard drive anyway. ;) I don't think 3 would be too many. :D I love it when the kitties get in the way. :) I am down to 8 now so my cat food bill is lighter. I still miss them all though and there were a few I wished would live forever but nothing ever does... well except spiders and roaches. *grin*
+BlackCat2 Yeah that reminder to update to Windows 10 can get annoying. It pops up on my Windows 7 and Windows 8 machines. I still have 2 cats and it takes all of my willpower to not make that 3 or 4. :D
The keyboard looks great but can you review the cat
I wanna be your friend😂😂😂😂
Lolz
Haha..loved this comment
Hahahaha❤️
I left a like because of the cat.
Bought this keyboard today to use with my Pi 3+ B. Also plugged it into my laptop running Linux Mint 18.3. It recognized the keyboard immediately. No head-aches with drivers. I don't really like the rattling sound from the keyboard while typing but for the price, I will live with it.
I just did same thing today and it works perfectly with Raspbian even that box says that only windows and android are supported.
@@Whigu I'm willing to bet that Microsoft pays Logitech to not put that on there. Of course as we know the reason is Linux is the most used operating system in the world and FOR GOOD REASON!!! Switching to Linux was definitely in my top 5 things I have ever done. I can't tell you how much I have saved not smashing computers out in the driveway. By the way for those who are curious, Linux is FREE and can be customized 100%, not 50% or 80%, 100% Go make yourself a live USB and give it a try.
@@Whigu well, how do you change its settings in Linux?
Great review, much effective even after 4 years
Thank you. I'm glad that I could help :)
TechHarvest Do you know how to screenshot on it?
@@helloimemma3526 window key + Shift + S (for window 10)
For the people who use it for Smart TV. The volume buttons above the mousepad dont work on Smart TV.
Use the FN button + F8 for mute, F9 to lower volume and F10 to raise volume. 👍
Good info! :)
@@TechHarvest does It work on an android tablet?
Kitty approved! Can't get a better recommendation.
Excuse me sista it’s also Sarah approved can’t get better than Sarah Approved
Useful overview; thanks. Plus, the keyboard attracts cute kitties--nice extra feature.
This keyboard is almost indestructible! I have dropped this countless times, spilled stuff on it and my 2 year old daughter has stood on it and kicked it.. everything still works perfectly.. has outlived my £60 apple keyboard with a lot less abuse!
Thank you! I could not for the life of me figure out why they put that random mouse click button there. Now it makes total sense.
Whenever I use a lap keyboard without that button, I always reach for the button even if it isn't there. :D
That yellow button is to Hold it while scrolling on android devices. only the Enter button is never working ( only on windows devices ).
Fantastic review, I am surely late to the game buying this but it was on sale and I needed it. So glad I found your review with the full break down of the keyboard! Thanks so much! Cheers and subbed! Keep rockin it 😎👍 P.S. Wonderful cat!!
Thank you for the overview - one note: with ANY media/TV keyboard the MOST important feature is the "Backlight" keys, but I guess it is not an issue for this review.
Thank you for a nice thorough review of the keyboard.
This review is streets ahead of others as it was deeply informative of the functionality of the keyboard and software where as some people just unboxed and commented on the keyboard ergonomics alone without addressing the software side of things, comparisons with the previous model and potential uses.
Thank you for a good review as my Dad is looking for a good HTPC keyboard as he's trying to juggle a mouse and a keyboard, where I told him to get an all-in-one keyboard and that yellow top corner mouse button only seen on the K400 and plus looks like a winning feature to me.
I like the vid and might subscribe if your other reviews are as of good quality as this. I find it's best to have a good look at the other content before subscribing as I'd rather commit to a subscription for life rather than unsubscribe later, hope you understand!
+reggiep75 Thanks for the kind words. Hopefully I earn your subscription at some point. Have a great day!
TechHarvest I watched a few videos and subscribed.
I like your content, methodology and presentation.
wow, I didn't notice the yellow button is left button. That's awesome concept and I totally see that useful. Bought the keyboard as home recording musician where there's piano on my lap and guitar in my hand and I still have to use keyboard and mouse to record ;)
@@michakowalski2930 I just bought the K400+ tonight for my piano "keyboard station." Should be very handy with my computer and monitor to work with CZcams tutorials and play along with recordings. Wireless..... Nice!
Can the Logitech K4000 PLUS Wireless Keyboard be directly connected to the UA40K5000AK model Samsung TV or the Logitech K4000 PLUS Wireless Keyboard be connected to the UA40K5000AK model Samsung TV only via PC?
1st class video to watch thank you take care kind regards from me kenneth💥💯👍
Came for the keyboard. Stayed for the cat. Bravo
I’m gonna get this for my Steam Deck OLED and for my Lenovo Legion Go handheld gaming PCs, I have the mouse already just gonna connect both to the Unifying receiver. Thanks for the review!
I picked it up today and what i like is that it works perfect fully with my raspberry pi 3 B+ on the OS and when emulating
I would say that this is the best all in one wireless keyboard/mouse on the market today for the money.
Thank you for this comment i was wondering and just scrolled through and was like hopefully someone mentions Raspberry Pi thinking of getting for the Pi 4. Thanks
I have one of those keyboards with a mini PC I use for casual gaming and media consumption and it is indeed really comfortable and the batteries last for long time. I wish there was a spanish layout version too.
Thumbs up for the cat! ;)
Could have been possible to put the freaking cat outside before starting to shoot? I mean, it's not live video, I asume you prepare your set before shooting. Or you just suddenly turned on your camera and said: "let talk about mhhhh..... the keyboard". Not! Put the cat outside before shooting please.
Yeah its like jesus get the cat off the table before you start. Guess he thinks its funny
Music is too loud
The original k400/r design was better in my opinion. My biggest gripe with the newer version is the uneven arrow keys. The split up/down arrow completely throws of scrolling for web surfing and word processing. It would possibly have been a keeper had all arrow keys been identical in size similar to the k830. Returned both Black Friday bargain price K400 Plus to amazon and bought two backup k400/r versions from Walmart locally. I consider myself a decently fast typist, and I’ve never used the right shift key.
It all comes down to how you use something I guess. I can see why you would find the split arrow keys as a deal breaker just as I find the small shift key a deal breaker.
@@TechHarvest ... There was a deal on slickdeals.net, so I bought two. I really wanted to love it seeing as how I loved the original k400/r. After testing out the Plus for an hour web surfing, I kept hitting the wrong key - the right shift. It was kind of maddening. I’m a right shift key virgin; I don’t think I’ve ever use it on purpose or by accident. It would have been a different story had the arrow keys were all the same size like the k830 - too expensive considering the k400/r is roughly $14.99.
@@TechHarvest can you connect it with a phone because I looked on Google and some said it can't and some say can
There is one serious flaw with this product. There does not appear to be a way to change the frequencies or channels in a case where you might be using two or three of these in close proximity. For example if you wanted to use one for a computer and then another for say a TV in the same room or adjacent room.
Him:**reviews the keyboard**
Cat:**TAIL INTESTIFIES**
Your video sold me on this keyboard.
I don't give a shit about that keyboard, I just liked the video for the cat.
got mine today,love it.its that old? wow
I’m sold, I was really looking for an option tu use my pc for movies and anime. Good review, practical mostly. Lovely cat.
There is no better wireless media keyboard for the money on the market today IMHO. Thanks for the kind words. I'll tell my cat what you said ;)
TechHarvest Thanks for the review, my keyboard arrived a couple of days ago and it is fantastic, literally plug and play.
I paused the video when you paused for the cat. Won't be coming back.
lol This is peak-autiism
Another great review! Currently typing this comment with this very keyboard from my HTPC using the same LG TV you reviewed a while back, best and most in depth reviewer out there, if TechHarvest recommends a product, rest assured knowing his reviews are completely trustworthy. Thanks man!
+SP4RTAN XL WOW! Thanks for that endorsement. I'm glad I can help :)
Does it support:
1. Lg Smart TV running web os (OLED C7T)
2. PS4 Pro
3. Firestick
4. Mac(book Pro)
I own all the above devices. Does it support multi device switching on the fly too?
Just checking in, how long did it last for you ? or is it still running good ?
Thanks for the review on the ergonomics of the left thumb press 👍
No problem 👍
I love the fact that you stopped the review to give your cat some attention.
nooo bring back the CAT! :O
thanks for the detailed review
Thank you for this sir! It's very helpful. Thinking of buying one already.
I'm glad I could help. It's a great keyboard for the price. I still use it all the time on my HTPC.
@@TechHarvest yep! So stoked! Waiting for mine to arrive in a week or two. I wanna thank you again for the cool review!
I wasn't sure if i was going to get one or not but now I i'm thanks Can't get a better recommendation.
Might have to get this. Been using the K400r and it's not bad but having the shift key be a smaller button directly to the right side of the page up key kind of kills the keyboard for me.
Can you make an even louder intro? It didn't bleed my years to the full capacity, thanks.
Thanks for the review. This version is better than its predecessor but not my go to keyboard for quick typing,
Excellent review! Many thanks for all the details. I just bought this keyboard.
Thanks. How do you like it?
@@TechHarvest Hi! Been playing with it for 2 weeks now. Folks really need to download the "options" to modify some of the features. I turned off the "smooth scrolling" because the feature tended to scroll the text ahead of itself. Changed the "sleep" feature to "OFF" as something kept waking up my computer. Also turned off "zoom" feature as using 2 fingers to scroll sometimes triggered the zoom feature instead. I think it's great that the keyboard software allows for this customization. I would not have known this possible without your review. Love that I can now control my bedroom TV (hooked via HDMI cable to nearby computer) from the comfort of my bed :) Thanks again for your review, you did a thorough job of it!
I actually just prefer the original K400 as it has larger up&down arrow keys as well as a power-off hotkey (which may work with the Plus if you use the function + sleep command but I won't take the chance). The original K400 allows you to scroll with two fingers as well. There isn't a left-click button on the top left-corner though. I would also say, an improvement that could be made to make it absolutely perfect would be if it were backlit but that would increase the cost and the shift key has been made larger.
Still, the original Logitech K400 is pretty essential if you like to use want a keyboard with your HTPC/media center. I personally use mine with an Ouya and a Chromebox and it's perfect for me (aside from it not being backlit).
Ryan McFarlane The K400 has the left click key on the corner
Hello Great video I would like to use all the "12 function buttons" directly on Smart tv. I connected it directly to smart tv without software option. Strangely the only function button that works actually is f5 - search . How should I activate the others ? Thanks i need Just a "back" button ( think is f1 ) and "turn off / on tv" (ins) that of course are on the remote too :)
I would have expected functionality such as play/pause, forward, backward and stop to have dedicated keys and not just FN ones. Strange for a keyboard that even the manufacturer claims to be a great media keyboard.
the fn keys are literally the functionality keys bruh
just bought mines today. Im happy with it. good purchase.
And today ?
like the idea of turning off the zooming and clicking. but does the software actually change the keyboard, or only the way the computer interprets it? in other words if you changed the settings, then used the keyboard on another machine, would it still bring those changes with it?
Excellent review ! Is it compatible with Asus chromebox ?
Useful review, nice talking. 3+ years video, Logitech K400 Plus still on sale, still of interest. Has Logitech released any other wireless touchpad model, for average users?
Thank you. Logitech released the K600 but it's more pricey than the K400 Plus. You can't really beat the K400 Plus for functionality or value. If you're willing to spend more, there are other options out there.
Thanks for the video, is there any indicator for the Caps Lock ON ?
They clearly messed something up. I bought a K400R back in 2014, and I don't remember having so many issues with it, compared with what I have to deal with this new yellow K400 (the new one with yellow details).
And it all started with extremely stupid design choices. They got rid of the "shut down", "home", "music" and "lock" shortcut buttons on the left top of the keyboard, and replaced it with a single "right click" yellow button. I have no idea why anyone thought this was a good idea. I do not know what its role is besides sitting there looking stupid, and useless.
I used to be able to shut down my computer with a single keyboard shortcut click while I was falling asleep, now I have to actually do it. Very stupid.
Another stupid take from logitech was the new layout of the directional arrow pad. The up/down keys are basically the size of a single left/right key.
It looks incredibly cheap and cramped, and it should definitely be a dealbreaker for anyone interested in playing videogames.
I never liked playing with WASD keys, but I had to learn because of this.
Now, to the hardware itself. The "yellow K400" definitely feels cheaper the original K400R from 2014. I had to send back the first one I received, because the left mouse button came broken. Well, turns out it's still garbage. You actually have to press HARD to trigger the left click. Simply "clicking" on it won't do.
The result is a noisy mess, even the keys themselves have a very unpleasing feeling.
I'm not a big fan of highly sensitive "gaming type" keys, but typing on this things turns out to be extremely displeasing and the keys are extremely stiff after 3-6 months.
Sure, there might be dust or whatever below them, but I never had something like that happen on the old version, which I treated even more poorly.
But as pointed out, the trackpad is probably the worst part of it all. It is not a joke, this thing triggers itself for no reason at all, often causing embarrassing situations such as ; accidentally sending message, closing tabs, programs, or simply glitching you out of whatever you were doing, because of accidental (left/right) clicks, and buggy finger tracking. Sometimes it just stops tracking and you need to turn it on/off before it glitches you out of that very long CZcams comment you were trying to write about it.
The trackpad's texture is also trash and a definite downgrade from the earlier version. It doesn't feel like a trackpad but rather cheap plastic with zero grip.
Another deplorable thing to point out is the firmware itself. That required Logitech driver thing is textbook bloatware designed to drain usage data, while not even letting you customise this thing properly, besides a couple of very rudimentary options.
For instance, I would like to be able to change the "Scroll" and "Pinch to zoom" behaviour, because right now it is *ABSOLUTELY UNUSABLE* .
"Scroll" has no effective sensitivity adjustment settings whatsoever, to a point where the slightest scroll will send you down of a 2600 pages pdf.
"Pinch to zoom" is not actually what it says it is. While using a browser, this will simply change the scale of the page (like a mouse wheel does), instead of zooming on a particular portion of the screen, which is expected behaviour for any recent laptop or any other "finger pinch operated" mobile device.
Not only that, but the two "functions" are conflicting together in a way that you can't use the "CTRL" touch for a few seconds after having used the "Scroll" function (because the "scrolling act" somehow stays in memory for longer than it needs) otherwise it will simply augment the size of the page to 500% ( or 25%, depending if you were scrolling up or down ).
This infuriating nonsense will significantly slow down your browsing experience, especially if you're used to keyboard shortcuts, such as CTRL+T to open a new tab, or anything CTRL-related really, you will encounter the +500% accidental zoom.
Anyone can replicate (one of many occurrences) of the issue by opening Google, scrolling up energetically, waiting 1 second and pressing CTRL.
Anyway, terrible product, terrible company. It is cheap, but yeah it is not good anymore.
Hi , thanks for video . Is it german layout or english ?
I've been using the K360, which a the 10 key instead of the pad, and I really like it a lot. The Logitech keys just have a great feel that enables the ability to type, at least for me.
ps. I like your tuxedo kitty's timing. I've had a couple around for many years, and they have really funny personalities.
+Charley Jackson The K360 looks like a nice keyboard. Logitech makes great peripherals. Both of my cats have lots of personality. The female in this video is quirky and she always makes me laugh. :D
@@TechHarvest She's not as quirky as some people posting negative comments..... Odd how people who pay nothing to read people's helpful posts are so grouchy and hateful! I enjoyed your comments and your beautiful "Sylvester" cat.
Amazon the price was $25, Walmart $20 I bought my third one and a bottle of clear nail polish to coat the keys because after several years the letters start wearing off, I like the little keyboard just fine.
My favorite improvement for this by far is the function keys. So many times would I accidentally hit the "sleep" or "lock PC" key and it would be so frustrating. So happy it's a function key now
+flappyman123 They made a lot of great refinements with this keyboard. It's really hard to beat this one, especially for the price. I will be reviewing 2 other keyboards in the near future. So we'll see how they stack up.
would be great if there was actually a function lock key. I guess they'd have to charge more
Thank God !!! finally a good review ... JESUS !! can you please compare it to "Microsoft all-in-one media" ??
i would have preferred if you spent an additional 5 minutes talking about the on/off button
yosoytacoseasoning It goes on and off ( repeat for 5mins)
Have one, but doesn't work after two days. I replaced the batteries thinking the originals were gone but nothing. Had a great deal of difficulty when it worked with the sensitivity of the pad. It made it extremely difficult to select. At this point I get no response or pointer on the screen. Like I said it worked for maybe two to three days with my Chromebit, then nothing.
Mine arrived on Sunday from Amazon, works really well, but doesn't really make that much of a difference from the TV remote because the Browser is slower than Christmas! Oh, well............live and learn.
Can anyone tell me if this works with Linux? Can't find any information on that I want to use this with my steam deck.
Thanks for the review. I ordered one already. It was more because it had a touchpad and not a separate mouse and it was the only cordless or one of a few, that had a silicone keyboard cover available from china. I use the keyboard in the dining room as multimedia and it is subjected to food residue at times. However, I would not have called this a multimedia keyboard as it does not have any media controls. Stop, play, pause, forward and backward. I regret the fact that it does not. I hope the touchpad works better than the existing keyboard I am using now, which is a Gearhead. With dirty or greasy fingers its touchpad is horrible and unreliable now. I would not say it is a result of my fingers because I have a thinkpad laptop and the touchpad on that is flawless and accurate with dirty fingers or not. Why can't all other touchpads work as well as on the thinkpad. I have found most other laptops from all brands work poorly compared to the thinkpads. It is really sad. I hope this touchpad works more reliably than the gearhead and more like the thinkpad.
Hi
Is this bluetooth keyboard ? Can I connect this with only one device?
I like the volume up and down when watching movie and the touchpad when i cant find the mouse
Would this keyboard work well with an Nvidia Shield android box?
I just got one of these and never got a popup window. Where can I find it?
Great info. video. Very easy to understand. Love the kitty !
Thanks :)
I bought this key board it is working fine but the settings window is not coming to change functional keys to its actual purpose
it needs to be backlit and show is caps is on and off and some models have the @ at some were else on the keyborad and doesnt even work they needa fix that to this is a update from 2020 as they still sell this out of date thing
How to brighten and dim laptop screen. My mac air keyboard no longer works so I use the 400+ instead. Thank you. 😊
I just bought the minix z64 windows. Will it work on a windows machine? I like the fact that you can hook up several devices to the kb. This means you dont have to waste an extra usb port on for example a mouse. Does the predecessor has that feature also?
Do the batteries last? Minix own remote has problems with that.
Yes it will work on a windows machine. Batteries last upto 18 months. I have owned this keyboard for around 12 months now, its great tbh!
How does it compare to the original K400? I like that the original K400 has Windows XP support. Unfortunately neither of them seem to support Linux.
Trusteft The K400 has a slightly different layout, with the Shift key to the right of the arrow keys. The K400 seems to support Linux just fine, although the customization software is not supported, and some function keys may not work properly.
looks purrrfect for what i need
Kittens an Keyboards. What more could a cat daddy ask for.
Loved the cat!...and the review of course:P
hated the cat, they are always socializing when u don't want and being mean when you try to play with them.
How does it connect, you did not even mention this in the video, i would please like to know sir. Thank you.
lol.. you're kidding, right? o.O Look at 0:05 again.
+greenbag Many options there : Bluetooth, wireless USB, wifi... Therefore not so dumb question,eh?
right?
sebastyjon360 lol... wifi keyboard??? It may use a 2.54 ghz signal, but that's not wifi. :P
Look... the video clearly said wireless. Does it matter if it's 2.54ghz wireless or bluetooth? Is that going to be the difference between a sale or not?? It's wireless.. you don't need to be physically connected to the pc... that's all that's important. It's not like you need to buy a new piece of equipment to get it to work.. the dongle comes with it. Good grief.
And if you really wanted to know what it used... google is your friend. Try BestBuy.
FruitCakeNinja btw... sorry, I should have just said earlier... it comes with a 2.4 ghz "unified" receiver. I have one, as well as a logitech mouse with another receiver, and they only work for the units they came with.. I can't pair them on one dongle. As for the keyboard itself.. I find the mouse pad a little irritating.. it's too sensitive, and I wind up opening things I don't want to open. I'm sure there's a way of turning off the 'tap to click' function on the pad itself in Windows, but I use it with a Raspberry Pi running Kodi.
Also.. just for future reference.. if it says wireless, it means 2.4 ghz or whatever frequency they're using. It'll say bluetooth if it's a bluetooth device. Wireless keyboard, bluetooth keyboard, etc.
cheers.
is dongle needed even if your pc/laptop/tv has bluetooth???
Hi
Is there a way to know if the battery is getting low or for example let’s say to check how many % remains before a charge is required?
Great review!
Keep it up👍
how to open the battery compartment? it looks simple but is kind of difficult. Don't want to break anything so thought I would ask the question.
Is it good for a smart TV? Thanks
Asking the same thing cuz i have a dexon smart tv
Didn’t have enough time to give dimensions? Will it fit in my pack?
?How can I make a print screen with this keyboard
Can you scroll the same way you would on a MacBook track pad, side to side?
Thx. for the video. I'll copy John M. below:
"Thank you! I could not for the life of me figure out why they put that random mouse click button there. Now it makes total sense."
Hello @TechHarvest -- Does Logitech make a backlit version of this?
I have been all over Amazon for 48 hours looking and looking for ANY keyboard that is:
This size (width), has a touchpad, is backlit, and Bluetooth, and connects to both Macs and Android devices. Nobody i can find makes this -- which i cant understand... Any recs? Thank you
quicksite umm..... You can mod it?
Came for the keyboard, stayed for the kitty cat :3
I want tack print screan?
It seems my "end" key does not work without me using the "ctrl" key, is this normal?
Also my page up and page down don't work. Is there some I should be doing to active? I do a lot of typing and really need these features to work.
Can you type so we can know how it sounds? You click the touchpad but not the keyboard. It’s incomplete review
Hi sir is this compatible with unifying dongle? I lost the USB dongle. By the way, I love your cat very sweet.
I believe that it is. I'll tell my cat about your kind words. Thanks for watching. :)
what's the breed of the cat?
my k400 plus is not working with samsung 32" smart tv 2016 (ue32k5600). Tv shows only 'bluetooth keyboard & gamepad' options! not 'select keyboard'. pls help if any solution
I've had a stack of these keyboards both at home and at the office and never paid arrention to the mouse button in the upper left corner... :-)
I don't see myself ever using a wireless keyboard with my computer unless that is all that becomes available. I have a laptop with a track pad etc. and I can't stand using it. :p I also don't see myself using Windows 8 or higher. Even if they are giving it away. :P Loved seeing the kitty walking through. ;)
- Heidi
+BlackCat2 For my non laptop computers, all I have is wireless keyboards :D Windows 10 is pretty good if you like Windows 7, but really at this point there's no real reason to upgrade if you don't want to. The kitties always like to barge into my reviews :D
TechHarvest Yeah I don't want Windows 10. They have annoyed me anyway but putting that crap on my laptop with the automatic updates pestering me and my son to install Windows 10. I told my son he will not install it. :P If he does he won't use it anymore. lol.
I have manual updates on my desktop so they will not get me with that. :P Even if they did I would just get another hard drive and install my good copy of Windows on it. About time I added a new hard drive anyway. ;) I don't think 3 would be too many. :D
I love it when the kitties get in the way. :) I am down to 8 now so my cat food bill is lighter. I still miss them all though and there were a few I wished would live forever but nothing ever does... well except spiders and roaches. *grin*
+BlackCat2 Yeah that reminder to update to Windows 10 can get annoying. It pops up on my Windows 7 and Windows 8 machines. I still have 2 cats and it takes all of my willpower to not make that 3 or 4. :D
hey, I have this same keyboard however I am not able to select using the touch pad.... any tips to getting that to work?
Will I get the same feels when I use a Macbook trackpad? Thanks!
Probably not.
What do I do if I lost my keyboard's WiFi connection?
do 3 finger gestures work on this ?
can i plug this directly into my smart tv usb port?
Is thing adoptable for Huawei Tablets?
I have one of these, works very well with Mac mini
Are you able to use gestures on Mac Mini? I do own one Mac Mini and I'm planning on buying one soon. Would be great to have an answer from you...
Thumbs up for cattax !
Oh pointing out the "ridge" on the on-off switch was RIVETING.