New Garmin Electronics Installation - Sea Ray Sundancer
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Installation of my new Garmin equipment, including 943XSV GPSMAP Chartplotter, GMR
18 HD+ Radar, Striker Vivid 5CV finder.
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Filmed June, 2022.
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Boat Specs;
- Model: 1998 Sea Ray 370 Sundancer
- Length (bow to transom): 37-6", LOA (with factory swim platform): 40'-1"
- Beam: 12'-7"
- Dry Weight: 17,000 lbs
- Fully Loaded Weight: Boat + Fuel (1,664) + Water (580) + Gear (1,250 +/-) = 20,500 LBS
- Fuel Capacity: 275 U.S. gallons, 1,040 litres
- Draft: 32”
- Dead Rise: 20 degrees
- Engines: 2 x 7.4 litre Mercruiser Bluewater, Multi-Port fuel injection, gasoline,
raw water cooled, rated at 310 HP
- Transmissions: 2 x Borg Warner Velvet Drives, in Vee-Drive configuration
- Generator: Westerbeke 7.2 Kw BCGTC @ 60 Hz, gasoline powered & carburated, 3,600 RPM continuous engine speed
- 18,000 (total) BTU (12 + 8), reverse cycle heating/air conditioning
I put the Garmin 1242xsv on my Silverton along with the 24" radar. It made a great combination and the radar is fantastic. I also added Fox Marine engine gateways to my boat so that the engine parameters would display on the Engine screen of the 1242xsv.
Nice 👌 I'm looking forward to seeing this setup in action more, as we move forward with our cruising adventures.
Some of the best advice I've heard regarding getting familiar with new tools (or a new presentation of an old tool) is to use it a lot with good visibility in a familiar location.
Good advice 👍
Great video Paul. I sold my 2005 Sea Ray 320 a few years ago so I am living vicariously through you till we are back on the water. Thanks for the great content!
And thank you for following along, Jeffrey! Happy to continue to inspire 😃
Look into adding the fuel flow transducers. I love tracking my mileage and they are very accurate. I can burn 100 gallons and then fill up and it will be within 1/2 a gallon. Also a big advantage is learning where your boat runs the most efficient. I have been able to get up to 2.7 miles per gallon by adjusting RPM and trim. Where before where I ran it i was only at 1.9mpg. There cheap for what you get out of them.
Glad it's working out for you. As for myself, and I think I've mentioned this way too many times, I'm not going to adjust my cruising habits to try and squeeze out a couple more miles from a tank full of gas.
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo it's not about a few miles. It could be 30% savings so 100 gallons at $5= 500. Savings could be 30 gallons in same distance a $150 savings. Form me in a searay 360 that was only a difference in 3.5 mph and trimming better. Plus you have to think about the engines and how much more efficiently they are running with less load so it has to be better for them. I agree I would go from planed off to trawler speed to save a few buck. But to each his own its your $$$
Make sure that you do your homework first on your fuel flow transmitter. I have a small 2006 express cruiser with a 6.2 MerCruiser and put on a transmitter that was supposed to work for a 5.7L- 6.2L Fuel injected engine, it did not. The orifice in the flow transmitter is not large enough for the volume of fuel necessary for the 6.2 L engine at wide open throttle to get on plane. The parts manager at our marina told me that I was not the first person to have that happen to using the specified transmitter. All that work installing a Nema 2000 system from the engine room to my Garmin SD7 for nothing.
Good luck
@@davidmarshall5810 good to know. I hadn't heard of that. I have twin fuel injected 7.4 and haven't had a problem. Since the flow meter is on the low pressure side. The pick up pump keeps the engine bowl full for the high pressure pump. It's hard for me to see it running out of gas unless you run foe and extended period at WOT which I don't do so I wouldn't know if it would have a problem. But you have me curious now so next time out I may waste a few gallons for a test to see if they act up.
A little late but you can just epoxy the transducer that comes with Garmin units to boats fiberglass flooring. I’ve done this multiple times and works perfectly fine. Only issue is you have to do water temperature offset adjustment since transducer is not actually in the water. I do this once boat warms up I take a reading of the actual water temperature then see what my Garmin is reading go into settings and do the offset calculations then adjust it and good to go. Some may disagree with this idea but I have done it with a couple different boats no issues sonar reads properly and crystal clear views.
Yes, I've done that in the past on our smaller Sundancers, but the hull is too thick for that approach to work on our current 370 Sundancer...
Best part was you pitching that old junk. Know that feeling... Complete relief 😌
It was something I was looking forward to doing on the last boat, but had more pressing projects to get through on that one. Happy to finally be looking at Garmin gear on my helm 😁
Nice! Another episode and this one is on electronics. Coffee time!
Enjoy your ☕
Its like Christmas! All those fun projects to replace and repair. Enjoyed watching your work.....
Thanks Brad!
I now know where my amplifier is for my stereo! Thank you!
Good, but not sure if the factory amp was in the same spot. The entire stereo system was upgraded to JL Audio equipment, which is what our current amp is.
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo thanks for the heads up. My ‘99 370 has the original Clarion.
Nice work Paul, it’s good to see Anchor Girl finally on the new boat.
Oh, she's been on the boat since I brought it to our home port marina, back in May. However, she wasn't able to actually get out for a ride with me until the first day of summer!
Don't worry though, she'll be with me on all trips from now on. And even the last one - video coming up soon 👍
That pass thru transducer was cool, might di that for my boat when upgrade comes around.
Shoot through. Yes, it was a saver for me, for sure👍
I have the same unit on my 98 400db.
I LOVE the fish eye 3D scan of the bottom. Well worth it. Gonna get the same radome installed this winter and add a few cameras for around the boat for 360 view.
Great video! Thanks!
You're most welcome. And keep on enjoying that big 400 of yours!
I saved 7,000 dollars running Navionics on my ipad and phone at the same time and works perfect on Americas Great Loop !!!!! Which we’re on right now by the way 😁
Very cool. Don't forget to make sécurité call when you arrive at the Kirkfield Cut on lovely TrentSevernWaterway!!
Yet another question.... thanks in advance!! I noticed that you bought all the dash panels?? How did the gauge part go? I have got to take mine apart to track down some gremlins this season.
Yes, I did get a complete dash panels replacement, as that's the only way they were sold - as opposed to individual panels.
I haven't yet swapped out the one that houses the gauges, but I have had it apart to run wires. A very straightforward job, as there's only a handful of screws that hold each panel in and the gauges themselves pop out equally easy. Just gotta remember the wiring sequence of each gauge 😉
If you watch this video from our 2018 Cruise, I show/talk about the gauges at the helm of our 330 Sundancer, which has the very same setup as the 370. Checking it out here; czcams.com/video/CF_xqHVc8yM/video.htmlsi=ved3rxM3kunz_ccD
Watched that video and that is exactly the process I have to do.... "connection clean up" . I have got a Tach that is possessed, and a volt meter that is a bit off. Cheers Paul. Thanks for getting back.
oh,,, nice install.
Glad you like it
Love the fake burled maple. ;)
*Cherry Burl 👍
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Sooooooo, love the vid and the work you put in here. If I could be presumptuous enough to offer some advice. I would reduce the resolution of the radar to remove some of the clutter from the screen. Then you won't see big red splats on the screen, it will show more detail and stop basically smothering your charts in the below layer. Excellent stuff as always, be safe out there.
Thanks for that. And yes, I'm still fine tuning my learning experience 😉
Now that you have had a year of use with this chart plotter I have a query. Garmin sells both touch screen and button operated units. An upgrade of the chart plotter is on our upgrade list and I was wondering how the touchscreen has served you and would you have preferred one over the other. Thanks as always for the " how I did it videos".
The touchscreen unit worked fine. I can't speak to the benefits of having one with physical buttons, as I've never used one.
The only hiccup with the plotter was as a result of a - IMO - poorly activated default setting of Instant One. Although I was aware that it had been periodically coming on by itself. The negative impact became apparent when we were on the Rideau last summer and it came on one evening, unbeknownst to me, and was really overheating in the morning under its cover. I was forced to actually shut off the house batteries to reset it while we were looking through. Fortunately, another follower was good enough to point out that setting to me and no more issues with that. Like I said, a poorly thought through default setting...
The other thing - which has nothing to do with the actual unit - is I found that the cartography is off by a good 100 ++ feet on a spot in Lake Simcoe (Strawberry Island). I'll be posting a video on that at some point in the future, but it's an anomaly in the chart (Navionics). Good thing for radar 😉
Thanks Paul, I am definitely going to head down to boat show in January to scope these out. I am still one of those feely touchy types for stuff like this.
My search started four years earlier 😉 czcams.com/video/hk0QufKgLYM/video.html
Amazing work Paul. I envy your abilities to do these projects and understand what goes where. Kudos to you! Small issue, 10:02 "the the radome" LOL "to the radome" perhaps. Rock on!
D'oh!! Oh well, too late to change that now, but I'll try and watch my speeling more goodly in the future 😉
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo no biggie. Just couldn’t resist. I do it all the time when writing presentations and get corrected. Beauty job on the whole project.
Thanks again. Getting ready to head out for our extended cruise, pretty darned soon 👍
Thank you man keep doing it
Will do!
I am looking to do the exact setup on my 1996 330 Sea Ray, my question is why the separate Striker Finder? My understanding is that the 943 XSV will do all of that with a transducer? Just curious. I love the videos by the way.
Watch this video again, as I explain my reasoning at roughly the 20min mark 👍
Did the chart plotter need any kind of GPS receiver or is that built in to the unit?
It's a Garmin, not a Ray-Junk-O-La, so the GPS transceiver is built in. No extra, unneeded and overpriced accessories required. Had that thing up and running sitting on my lap with no more than power and ground cables loosely attached to the leads 👍
Hey Paul, quick comment, it is safe to install and remove the micr-sd cards while the unit is on. When you insert the card it will scan the software and would have asked if you wanted to do the update. . :-) Love the Garmin units. I have two networked on my boat with Fox Marine modules to show all my engine data on one and charts on the second.
I would highly recommend getting the Active Captain software all set up, it works great!
I installed the micro SD card before powering up the unit, then removed it after shutting down.
Now that you have had it a while how do you like it compared to the Raymarine? I'm thinking about the same upgrade for my 330 but still have some life left in my 10 year old Raymarine and hate to spend the money. So glad your back to CZcams, we look forward to your videos!
Both the Garmin Plotter and the depth sounder/finder worked well and I'm happy with the upgrade. There was a small issue with the finder, but that was related to the shoot through transducer, nit the head unit, which otherwise worked flawlessly for the season. I was actually quite impressed with it!
As for the plotter, I was still learning all of its features right at the end of the season, so looking forward to playing with it again this year. I'm hoping to give a quick review video in a few weeks, so keep a watch out for that one.
Hi. What country did you buy your boat from? I have been told the electrical systems are different and are a problem. @nd, Did you pay a broker to handle all the paperwork, and about how much? TY
Buying A Boat - The Good, Bad & Ugly: czcams.com/play/PLKhjT5kr2l2FqN3UkwONjmvAeqX4QYHjF.html
Super cool nice job
Thanks! Very happy with the new equipment 👍
Did you build model cars or airplanes as a kid?...I think I'll replace my anchor chain...Great video.
Nope. I just really love working on this boat and am happy to dive into whatever project comes along!
Of course, the experience in my 30++ years as a general contractor comes in handy as well 😁
Love the new boat and your Install and overview couldn't have came at a better time for us. We just picked up a new to us 2005 Rinker 342 and we are having the exact same setup installed in August with the exception of the fish/depth finder. One question, is the 943 capable of split screen to show the depth and plotter screens simultaneously? I haven't been able to find that answer on the garmin site.
I believe it does, although I wouldn't be using it for that.
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo Thanks! I watched through the video again and answered my own question. I didn't initially notice the side bar with speed and depth on it, so I wouldn't need the split screen. I love your setup with the separate depth finder, but my dash doesn't have room for the extra unit.
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Hi Paul, did you add spacers under your Radome, or did you bolt it directly to the radar arch ? Just doing some dreaming/planning if I were to add radar to my 2001 Maxum 3500. It has never had a radar installed so the arch is clean there. Also, did your boat have a NEMA 2000 network when you bought it, or did you install one ?
I used the solid (plastic/Starboard) spacers that I saved when trashing the old Raytheon junk (czcams.com/video/_P9N75ca2-A/video.htmlsi=CcCRJgz_e3eXFr-B). Bolted straight through to the radar arch - full electronics installation video here czcams.com/video/AgThlL7KM7U/video.htmlsi=yAPd8uVz48YJeVzS
NO NETWORK on this boat. Don't want it, don't need it. Would never use it. All the electronic components operate independently, exactly the way I planned and laid it out. Works perfectly for me.
Good point on network. Practical answer. Thanks for the reply.
Check out my installation video to see how the components are laid out to work independently. Plotter/Radar, standalone depth finder, VHF radio. Works great 👍
Paulie- question why the Striker & the chart plotter. It looked to me that your plotter already had depth and sonar options comparable to what is already on the plotter. all you needed was a transducer compatible with the plotter,o no?
As I mentioned in the video, I don't want the plotter screen cluttered with sonar, that's why the standalone finder.
Ah-ha interesting I can see how it can be cumbersome & then throw in a radar display or overlay screens are definitely too small
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo So Paulie does your depth show up on both units? do you run 1 or 2 transducers? If you do run 2 don’t they interfere with each other? Or do you run 1 with some sort of splitter and adapter cable? I would suspect there is a different pin set up on the back of each unit. Very curious as I like the set up.
I have an off subject question. Is your TV run off generator 110vac, 12vdc inverter, or is it dual voltage? I have one I run on 110v in the marina, but I want the flexibility while camping.
The TV runs only on AC power, no 12V, no inverter - not even cable. We only ever watch it when on shorepower, generally at our home port marina. When we're traveling, there's nothing important that we gotta watch, especially since we haven't had cable TV in about eight years. Zero interest in sports or news, so majority is Netflix and CZcams. Obviously, there's nothing that we 'have to' watch, so alternative power supply isn't a priority.
Hello i watch all your videos really like your 37 sundancer my family just picked up a 99 34 sundancer with twin 7.4 v drives we have gotten an alarm lately is a continuous beep wondering if you have any insight all gauges look good
Luckily, I've never had that on any of our boats. What I can suggest is doing a Google search, including 'Sea Ray' in the search term. More than likely, you'll be directed to ClubSeaRay.com, a forum for Sea Ray owners. I've found it really helpful over the years in trying to diagnose issues.
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo Thank you i use that website alot very helpful we are going to have our marina plug into the engines and read the code your oil pressure vid helped me know to replace the sender for the starboard gauge really helpful enjoy the season you and anchor girl
Hey Paul. Nice job. It’s time for me to try installing mine but I need some advice since the electric stuff is confusing for me. How can I tell where to connect the wires for power near my own dash? What should I be looking for? I didn’t see where you got power from.
Yes, I saw that you mentioned your Garmin plotter hasn't been connected yet. I'm guessing that it has a built in GPS (like ours does), which means you wouldn't have to run a standalone transponder. If that's the case, you should only need to connect the power.
The unit should have come with a power cable that plugs into the back of the plotter. That will only need the wires connected to a power source at the helm. More than likely, you should be able to locate that behind there. Just make sure it's protected by a fuse - ours came with an inline fuse already provided in the power supply cable. If you don't have that Garmin power supply cable, look online, as I'm sure Amazon would be happy to sell you one 😉
Finally, be sure to read the installation instructions!! Again, if you don't have that, it's downloadable right from the Garmin site. Good to have electronic PDF copies for all of your systems anyway...
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo I have all the wires necessary. I need to find that power source at the helm. That's what's confusing as there are a million wires going in a million directions.
Hi Paul - great video. Thanks for posting. I always enjoy your content.
I just purchased the same radar. I already have a “newish” garmin chart plotter that is compatible with the radar. Question: where did you get the update micro sd card from?
Thanks
Kevin
I bought the same unit... It is just a generic Micro SD card - you have to download the software. Even if you use Active Captain you still have to assign and install a micro SD card. Up to 32 GB for my unit.
Downloaded it from the Garmin site.
throw in a forwardscan
don't need it
looks like you have downloaded an old update, should be version 28.10.
Too late! 🤣
@@BoatingWithBoogaboo this would not happen with ActiveCaptain :)
but since 27.10 there has been some cool updates to the user interface.
When are you getting a 48?
48 what?
Sorry we could not say Hi Last evening. You will be eating Chinese very soon! Lol
Thanks Steve.
I don’t know how you find the time to do all of this on top of a regular job. You must not sleep.
More like I can't sleep. Too much boat stuff on my brain 😅
First comment!
You didn't even have a chance to watch the whole video yet! 🤣