Presonus recently released a line of USB-C interfaces which are very similar to their previous interfaces in the Studio Series the only difference is the change to USB-C. They also develop the Quantum line of Thunderbolt only interfaces. So while I get that USB is truly universal, USB-C is getting traction and if you look at Thunderbolt then USB-C offers a lot of potential. This mixer could be charging your laptop via Thunderbolt 3 while streaming audio. Again while 44.1kHz and 48kHz sample rates are used more; that is also changing since storage is becoming cheaper due to gaming and 4K content, computer processing performance is now capable of handling large sessions in 96kHz sample rates. I really hope Presonus will give users the option of a Thunderbolt 3 96kHz mixing consoles. Using the Titan Ridge controller JHL7440 a Thunderbolt 3 audio interface can auto switch between USB and Thunderbolt depending on the host.
I’m out on thunderbolt and usb-c. At this point, the only way to essentially future proof the studio is to go with broadband of some sort. My biggest complaint with all of these interfaces over the past 10 years has been just how fast the tech moves past the interfaces. Just 5-6 years ago FireWire 400 + 800 were king, now they’re dead in the water with the interfaces unsupported or non existent. Ethernet just keeps chugging along. I’m at the point where now I’m working on upgrading everything to Dante. I just jumped headfirst into the Focusrite Rednet line with the X2P and an AM2. By the end of the year I’m looking to go even further to expand it up to possibly 64 channels via some other Dante interfaces depending on what i can figure out with the C24 or if I’m gonna ultimately just get rid of it and switch over to just artist series controllers. Tech moving at the speed it has been is getting frustrating.
DJ Tommy II Gunz Ethernet is very limited that is why both USB and Thunderbolt became more popular. The best combination is to have Thunderbolt and AVB like MOTU does with some of their interfaces. I’m completely sold on AVB, between MOTU and Presonus I have all I need from networking audio in my studio. Ethernet is developing really slowly we are yet to see wide spread adoption of 10G. Apple very recently upgraded the iMac Pro with a 10G NIC. I wouldn’t be shocked if Ethernet joins the USB-C bandwagon. Thunderbolt 3 is the easiest way to network computers with 10G.
I've used the original 32 series 3 but was disappointed it doesnt have overdub but designed to record live. The sound quality , EQ , compressor and reverb effects for each channel and aux sends are great.
I am using SL64S connected to a MacBook for UC surface and reaper for broadcast mix. The problem is that I get random recurring drop outs on FOH and clll mixes. What could going on here? Please help.
Can you overdub with capture? Does it have midi sync? How much recording can you do with just the mixer vs having to hook it up to a freaking computer? Computers suck.
Can this console be used connected to a DAW using Studio One, Pro Tools, etc. to simultaneously mix multiple tracks at once as the song is playing (real-time) when mastering as normally done in studio? Or is it just basic live mixer with only the added feature of recording the separate tracks (which is still pretty cool)? From what I understand the older (‘classic’) StudioLive 16.4.2 etc. models (and most other similar consoles) cannot actually be used in combination with a DAW app for the real-time simultaneous multi-track mastering and can only perform the recording stage of the process. Hence in order gain the ability to do real-time multi-track recording (using faders for at least eight individual tracks) while mastering with a DAW app requires the addition of a Presonus FaderPort 8 or 16 (or similar device). Please correct me if I am wrong or confirm if I am right. Thanks.
And if you wanted to incorporate the eco system into your setup would you have to use the mixer as your main interface or could I add this to my existing setup?
Hi! I love your tutorials. Question: Is it possible to route input line 1 on my mixer to record on input 5, with changing the cable? I have Studiolive 32s III
Can it be upgraded with usb-c card, or are we stuck with just the USB 2? What other ways can it interface directly with computer other than USB 2? Always seems to be an issue with these type of mixers...idk. Thanks. Very beautiful design!
At the price, yes it’s far better features than the Avid stuff..but the only issue with it is the sample rates being limited to 44.1 and 48..if it were able to do 96 at the very least, it’d be definitely worth the buy at the price for a studio. For live stuff it’s pretty much unmatched though unless you happen to like the Behringer x32 (which i really do these days)
@SPH Piano gosp yes.. you can use all 64 channels simultaneously with a stage box. you can't use it with a behringer P16. but you can use it with the EarMix16 by Presonus
This isn’t something that would improve your setup at all really. It’s essentially just the same thing you already have just in a different name and format. If you feel limited by your soundgrid system with X32, I’d recommend just simply expanding your soundgrid system with stuff like the waves server, x32 rack, etc. there’s a lot of good options there that would save you some money upgrading vs going to a completely different system.
If you’re just dead set on going to a completely different system, I’d recommend checking out the focusrite Rednet series. It’s Dante based and it’s really really good. Expandable beyond your best dreams
You can get the MOTU AVB to Soundgrid Server (something like that). What I do is I run Waves Plugins through Studio One and I assign my inputs on my StudioLive to USB Input so that I could load various plugins per track.
The X32 was designed as a live mixer that just so happens to work as a recording desk. But everyone uses it as a recording desk, so Behringer had to update the firmware to do what people wanted it to do. This Presonus product was made with the intention that many people would use it just as a recording desk, so you won't have to find as many workarounds as you do with the X32. That being said, I love my X32.
I like Dante functionality a little better than AVB but I’m not completely sold on Which one will actually stick around and run successfully in the long haul.
martinrosschou i thought it was me, but I was like if he say turty-two one more time, I’m bout to loos it. Lol too funny. All jokes aside that board looks so dope!
I don’t fully understand this comment. When you turn on daw mode, the mixer is still fully engaged. If you’re running audio thru the mixer, you can use the plugins in conjunction with the daw. So instead of using fat channel processing in S1 4, you choose it from the board. Or, you can run them both simultaneously.
@@richiefamus8778 I think they are talking about functionality like eg. the Universal Audio Interface Gear with integrated DSPs for the native plugins. And I agree, that could be a killer feature especially because it seems they implemented a "Light version" of this idea by importing the console session presets to the daw.
It seems to me that with the nature of how AVB i/o works, you should be able to easily use an outboard plugin solution. I wouldn't rule it completely out. Either way, If you have a laptop running a DAW with plugins, you could rout through it live assuming that the latency is correctable.
@@richiefamus8778 "If you're running audio thru the mixer..." -- would that apply to audio coming back to the mixer from the computer via USB, or is separate DA/AD conversion required to make use of the DSP during mixing from DAW?
I see you have an avid c|24 and im assuming you use protools because they sync well together... so wouldnt it make sense for somebody who uses presonus studio one to get a presonus mixer? I love studio one and my studio live 32. Protools is a thing of the past unless they do an all around update it will soon be forgotten. The only reason its the “industry standard” is because it used to be the only good daw available but now with so many better daws and the ability to record at someones house and not having to go to a huge recording studio i dont see protools making it another 5-10 years without an update and they discontinued there c|24 as well as a bunch of other products so i dont see an update coming
@@mainstreamrecordings wow, again, another inciteful, in depth review on why NOT to buy Presonus products. Maybe you should consider writing for Sound on Sound, then an informed public can make wise purchases, based purely on whether YOU like it or not! Although I'd recommend writing those Professional reviews in articulate English, not dat trendy gangsta street lingo, nawm sayyin plaayur?!
Presonus recently released a line of USB-C interfaces which are very similar to their previous interfaces in the Studio Series the only difference is the change to USB-C. They also develop the Quantum line of Thunderbolt only interfaces. So while I get that USB is truly universal, USB-C is getting traction and if you look at Thunderbolt then USB-C offers a lot of potential. This mixer could be charging your laptop via Thunderbolt 3 while streaming audio.
Again while 44.1kHz and 48kHz sample rates are used more; that is also changing since storage is becoming cheaper due to gaming and 4K content, computer processing performance is now capable of handling large sessions in 96kHz sample rates.
I really hope Presonus will give users the option of a Thunderbolt 3 96kHz mixing consoles.
Using the Titan Ridge controller JHL7440 a Thunderbolt 3 audio interface can auto switch between USB and Thunderbolt depending on the host.
Enoch Gitonga 😮
I’m out on thunderbolt and usb-c. At this point, the only way to essentially future proof the studio is to go with broadband of some sort. My biggest complaint with all of these interfaces over the past 10 years has been just how fast the tech moves past the interfaces. Just 5-6 years ago FireWire 400 + 800 were king, now they’re dead in the water with the interfaces unsupported or non existent. Ethernet just keeps chugging along. I’m at the point where now I’m working on upgrading everything to Dante. I just jumped headfirst into the Focusrite Rednet line with the X2P and an AM2. By the end of the year I’m looking to go even further to expand it up to possibly 64 channels via some other Dante interfaces depending on what i can figure out with the C24 or if I’m gonna ultimately just get rid of it and switch over to just artist series controllers. Tech moving at the speed it has been is getting frustrating.
DJ Tommy II Gunz Ethernet is very limited that is why both USB and Thunderbolt became more popular. The best combination is to have Thunderbolt and AVB like MOTU does with some of their interfaces. I’m completely sold on AVB, between MOTU and Presonus I have all I need from networking audio in my studio. Ethernet is developing really slowly we are yet to see wide spread adoption of 10G. Apple very recently upgraded the iMac Pro with a 10G NIC. I wouldn’t be shocked if Ethernet joins the USB-C bandwagon. Thunderbolt 3 is the easiest way to network computers with 10G.
The flex dsp update (2.0)for studiolive3 seems to be a really good update! The improvements over the last year have been great!
I've used the original 32 series 3 but was disappointed it doesnt have overdub but designed to record live. The sound quality , EQ , compressor and reverb effects for each channel and aux sends are great.
I am using SL64S connected to a MacBook for UC surface and reaper for broadcast mix. The problem is that I get random recurring drop outs on FOH and clll mixes. What could going on here? Please help.
Can you overdub with capture? Does it have midi sync? How much recording can you do with just the mixer vs having to hook it up to a freaking computer? Computers suck.
Can this console be used connected to a DAW using Studio One, Pro Tools, etc. to simultaneously mix multiple tracks at once as the song is playing (real-time) when mastering as normally done in studio? Or is it just basic live mixer with only the added feature of recording the separate tracks (which is still pretty cool)?
From what I understand the older (‘classic’) StudioLive 16.4.2 etc. models (and most other similar consoles) cannot actually be used in combination with a DAW app for the real-time simultaneous multi-track mastering and can only perform the recording stage of the process. Hence in order gain the ability to do real-time multi-track recording (using faders for at least eight individual tracks) while mastering with a DAW app requires the addition of a Presonus FaderPort 8 or 16 (or similar device). Please correct me if I am wrong or confirm if I am right. Thanks.
And if you wanted to incorporate the eco system into your setup would you have to use the mixer as your main interface or could I add this to my existing setup?
Like the handheld shotgun!
Hi! I love your tutorials. Question: Is it possible to route input line 1 on my mixer to record on input 5, with changing the cable? I have Studiolive 32s III
It really seems that Presonus are allergic to pots 😔.
Dream, dream, dream... Would love to try one of these beasts.
Will there be a 32 or 64 channel stage box?
HUP LAWD! Jaysus we are everywhere. Fairplay!
heard the irish accent straight away lol
Just say it... "We've made a better X32"
...a much better M32...
If that had the Quantum guts built into it so you could get that insane latency you could take my cash all day long. It would be a game changer.
Which console u Know of has that quantom feature? Im new to the console arena.. soo im still learning
@@musikman337 I don't know of any . I am saying it would be a great feature.
Will this work with Cubase Pro 10?
Can it be upgraded with usb-c card, or are we stuck with just the USB 2? What other ways can it interface directly with computer other than USB 2? Always seems to be an issue with these type of mixers...idk. Thanks. Very beautiful design!
It's USB 3
Does it work with other daws?
Well a lot has been said in the comments below. In my opinion, at $3999, this is a very good console. it's a beast. Looking forward to using it some.
What???? $4000. Are you sure.
@@joshuagoss2650 yes. Very sure
@@joshkaspian damn is cheap. I need to get this
At the price, yes it’s far better features than the Avid stuff..but the only issue with it is the sample rates being limited to 44.1 and 48..if it were able to do 96 at the very least, it’d be definitely worth the buy at the price for a studio. For live stuff it’s pretty much unmatched though unless you happen to like the Behringer x32 (which i really do these days)
@SPH Piano gosp yes.. you can use all 64 channels simultaneously with a stage box. you can't use it with a behringer P16. but you can use it with the EarMix16 by Presonus
I like this...it reminds me of the Roland VM7200 system all hopped up on crack cocaine LOL🎵🎶🎼🎸🎤🎺🎻🎧
Do we get a free trial version?
Looks great
Awesome Machine ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I have a SoundGrid system with a X32, how would this improve my setup? I feel limited with my X32 setup currently.
In what ways do you feel limited? Unfortunately this system cannot interface with soundgrid.
This isn’t something that would improve your setup at all really. It’s essentially just the same thing you already have just in a different name and format.
If you feel limited by your soundgrid system with X32, I’d recommend just simply expanding your soundgrid system with stuff like the waves server, x32 rack, etc. there’s a lot of good options there that would save you some money upgrading vs going to a completely different system.
If you’re just dead set on going to a completely different system, I’d recommend checking out the focusrite Rednet series. It’s Dante based and it’s really really good. Expandable beyond your best dreams
You can get the MOTU AVB to Soundgrid Server (something like that). What I do is I run Waves Plugins through Studio One and I assign my inputs on my StudioLive to USB Input so that I could load various plugins per track.
The X32 was designed as a live mixer that just so happens to work as a recording desk. But everyone uses it as a recording desk, so Behringer had to update the firmware to do what people wanted it to do. This Presonus product was made with the intention that many people would use it just as a recording desk, so you won't have to find as many workarounds as you do with the X32. That being said, I love my X32.
Have persons resolved their motorised fader shake?
Mine doesn’t shake at all
Is there a way to expand outputs on any of the models i need 16 outs but dont need more inputs
64S has 16 Mix outs + Main L/R + Mono/Center onboard. 16 more Mix outs can be added with an NSB or second mixer.
Do the lcd screens follow the track color in daw mode?
I think just the select buttons on the mixer match the colors
@@drummerboy100jh missed opportunity. Wouldve been a nice little feature
Does the board support Dante?
AVB is
No, there is no dante support here. They do however have AVB, and it's pretty versatile at that.
I like Dante functionality a little better than AVB but I’m not completely sold on Which one will actually stick around and run successfully in the long haul.
nice
The Announcer from Best in Show anyone?
Turty-two Turty-two Turty-two...
martinrosschou i thought it was me, but I was like if he say turty-two one more time, I’m bout to loos it. Lol too funny. All jokes aside that board looks so dope!
@@Gonzalo_777_ just be thankfull he never said 33 1/3.
Dirty Tree and a Turd, 🤣
So You ( Can Not ) Use The Plugin DSP With You DAW Thats Disappointing
Missed opportunity
I don’t fully understand this comment. When you turn on daw mode, the mixer is still fully engaged. If you’re running audio thru the mixer, you can use the plugins in conjunction with the daw. So instead of using fat channel processing in S1 4, you choose it from the board. Or, you can run them both simultaneously.
@@richiefamus8778 I think they are talking about functionality like eg. the Universal Audio Interface Gear with integrated DSPs for the native plugins. And I agree, that could be a killer feature especially because it seems they implemented a "Light version" of this idea by importing the console session presets to the daw.
It seems to me that with the nature of how AVB i/o works, you should be able to easily use an outboard plugin solution. I wouldn't rule it completely out. Either way, If you have a laptop running a DAW with plugins, you could rout through it live assuming that the latency is correctable.
@@richiefamus8778 "If you're running audio thru the mixer..." -- would that apply to audio coming back to the mixer from the computer via USB, or is separate DA/AD conversion required to make use of the DSP during mixing from DAW?
For mi sir
Actually came back 6+ hours later- just to give a 'thumbs down' to this and 99% of the 'self-serving' video's PreSonus puts out about this!
Presonus products COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY!
Mainstream Entertainment, wow, lucky I saw that statement, was just going to buy 2 things from Presonus, but now I've seen your comment, I won't.
I see you have an avid c|24 and im assuming you use protools because they sync well together... so wouldnt it make sense for somebody who uses presonus studio one to get a presonus mixer? I love studio one and my studio live 32. Protools is a thing of the past unless they do an all around update it will soon be forgotten. The only reason its the “industry standard” is because it used to be the only good daw available but now with so many better daws and the ability to record at someones house and not having to go to a huge recording studio i dont see protools making it another 5-10 years without an update and they discontinued there c|24 as well as a bunch of other products so i dont see an update coming
All im saying ia they products are not worth MY MONEY.. Not interested in all that other jibber jab you talking.
@@mainstreamrecordings wow, again, another inciteful, in depth review on why NOT to buy Presonus products. Maybe you should consider writing for Sound on Sound, then an informed public can make wise purchases, based purely on whether YOU like it or not! Although I'd recommend writing those
Professional reviews in articulate English, not dat trendy gangsta street lingo, nawm sayyin plaayur?!
@@tjordulf Leave me the fuck alone. How about that??! Homie