Should You Go To An Aviation College?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2017
- Should You? My advice and opinions for young people on the best way to get into the aviation industry. Please share your constructive criticism, thoughts, and opinions. No path is perfect for everyone. We're all different.
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those first 4 minutes were hard to watch.
so hard man...so hard...Hahahahahahhaha
That’s why I skipped the first 4 minutes...
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I actually went to an expensive college and have now been working in aviation as a corporate pilot for 23 years now. I could never recommend going to an expensive school to anyone due to the financial burden incurred. Still paying on that debt. I will say this, as a Chief pilot comparing resumes of potential new hires, a college degree does carry weight. Although it is not required by the airlines nor by my company. Experience carries just as much weight. One extra thing I will touch on. Depending on the instructor, I have found that those who attended a professional school, either 2 or 4 year seem to be more knowledgable compared to the pt. 61 guys. This has been my experience. There is also a noticeable difference between those who have flight instructed and those who have not. I believe a good two year school to be a good option. A little more expensive than a pt.61 airport school, but a lot less expensive than a 4 year. The pilots are just as good. The extra two years at a 4 year college is just taking the core classes the school requires. The only time a College degree may prove better is when it comes time to be competitive for that open Chief Pilot slot. You addressed this with the possibility of online courses after your already working, which I believe to be a great option.
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Jeff Powell what flight school would you recommend I attend to be recognized?
Opinion on getting a bachelors vs a masters in aviation/aerospace engineering for college??
Just by reading “Aviation College” my wallet physically started shinkring
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Skip the first 4 minutes
Friend of mine does some of the pilot interviews for Delta and the one thing he always says is, get your degree when you’re young. The major airlines that pay the big bucks generally require a bachelors degree and points given to military background and schools like UND and ER ...etc
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Thanks for your valuable information Ryan 😀
I must admit, when I heard you were against going to Aviation College, I thought you were out of your mind, but argument very well made and defended
Thank you so much for this video! You just cleared up all the questions I had
Thank you so much for making this video bro!!!
What a great video. That was really helpful thank you.
Another option is to attend a university with an aviation program and an Air-force ROTC program (Tennessee State University). That way you can become a pilot and you don't have to pay extra coins out of pocket.
Thanks for this information man
Thank you for your advice.
Thank you so much for the information!
Nice video! Thanks for the info
Great video I was torn between college and ATP but now my mind made up! Im getting a really late start at 32 anyway
Definitely part 61...once you get your CFI then you can attend college part time while still maintaining a flight instructing job
Hi Ryan, great video! I've been doing some research for the past few months, and here's what I found...flight training (ppl-cfi) $60K. Aviation degree $100K-140K. That's standard for everywhere you go. So I'm just really confused how to become an airline pilot, no matter the order, it's all going to cost the same.
Awesome video, thats the exact route im taking
Thank you I’ll think about it
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Took soooo long to get to the point.
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Amazing Video. Tysm :)
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Great video! I'm close to my checkride for my ppl, and once I get that and build my tt to 80 I'll be starting ATP in Fort Lauderdale. Atp seems like an incredible training center, as I've visited the facility. I'm 18, and the goal is to get to the Airlines at 21. Your videos have helped me a ton! Thanks Ryan!
Jeff Rider awesome man!! You're on the right track, you'll be there on your 21st birthday. Good luck and stay in touch!
Ryan Huber thank you so much for your opinion and the info. Keep up the good videos.
Rider Aviation
How did you like ATP? What's your current status?
From what I've been researching most airlines want you to have a degree or you'll just be stuck as a flight instructor somewhere
I went to ATP this last August, got my Instrument, Multi's, CFI's all done by April. That was a little longer than expected however, I got it done a whole lot quicker than someone who goes to a College. Only thing I wish I would've done differently is that I should've gone down there one year earlier. So here I am at the age of 20, teaching people how to fly and making money/getting hours doing so. Hoping to be in the Airlines before I turn 22. Go to a Part 61 school and get it done as quick as possible.
Ethan Wallenberg amen, that's awesome brother!
Ryan Huber I just turned 19 but I'm thinking about going to an ATP school. I don't have my prive pilots license or anything like that. Going in not knowing anything how difficult would it be? Thanks
You either need an associates degree or 80 hrs flying with a private pilots lic.
SpaXpert to go to any ATP school?
Hi! I have done my high school study, so can i join ATP after just high school. And Did you go to ATP in California? And how much did you pay to do all that? Please reach out to me via email : shahattaullah05@gmail.com if possible. Thanks
Have you been studying at EmbryRiddle If so, what are other majors students usually take? Nice video
thank you so much for the clarification
SUPER helpful! thank you!
I was considering going to UND and still am but if I'm able to find the finances to go to a part y1 flight school that would be way worth it
Nick Vascones I want to go there too😱
Great vid. I went to a aviation college and they had 200 students sharing 2 multi engine aircraft with only 4 instructors. Only flew 4 times in 6 months. I left after the year and already am way ahead of my class mates that are still in the program. Currently at a local FBO still training.
Connor Craig what college?
Connor Craig what college??
Super good info.
what about community college?
Thank you so so much sirrr
Watching this made me feel better about my current path which is to go part 141 associates degree and get an online bachelors while at a regional. Thank you🙏
I truly hope every new pilot sees this
Can you do a video on the tuition reimbursement through ATP?
great video !!!!!!!!
That's right brotha!!think smart
I was under the impression that going to an Aviation College would accelerate the process to getting a PPL. I also assumed that the college tuition covered classroom and flight time. Obviously, I was terribly mistaken. After watching your video, I am rethinking which path to take in order to obtain the necessary quailifications. No matter how you view it, a PPL is an expensive proposition so you need to have financial resources so you don't have to incur substantial debt!
I am 29 almost 30 and have started flight training at a local flight school and currently very close to getting my PPL. My concern looking at Linkedin is that most airline pilots have been through an integrated college aviation degree, and secondly most big airlines are hiring through cadet programs. So where that does leave the guys like me who start out at a local flight school?
thank you
What about right now? I was just about to sign up for flight school right as Covid-19 started.
Do you feel the same about Associate degree programs??
Sup Ryan, was just wondering what your take is on Jetblue's Gateway flight training program. I just read a little on it but it seems kinda pricey to me.
Don't do it at all. It is way to expensive and a huge relocation commitment just to graduate with flight credentials. YOU DONT GET A DEGREE. Then what happens if JetBlue collapses or if you get fired. You won't get picked up anywhere else. You are locked into Jeblue. All or nothing.
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Many programs in Ontario are with college (note: college is cheaper and quicker than university here). They are approximately the same price in flight training plus an advanced diploma. The college path would cost an additional $9000 on top of the flight time. Is it worth the $9000 extra for a diploma and not just pilot ratings?
Where do i find 61 flight programs if i don’t want to take the expensive college route. Is it just affordable colleges that have flight programs or is it separate from college in general
What should I know if I choose to major in an aviation program? I just think studying aviation would be awesome and hoping to fly in the military, but I won’t have my pilots license nor a lot of knowledge about the field before going to college. I am hoping to learn all of this in school, but if not what do you guys think I should be prepared for?
This was really helpful. Thank you. I would just like to ask one question... all costs aside, how was your student experience at ERAU? Also, are the academics at ERAU as good as they advertise?
Thank you, and good luck in your career.
I'm in the Navy and I get tuition assistance thru the military. I got my associates in aeronautical science, for practically under 700 dollars.
I would suggest joining the Military to get tuition assistance
@@Vanskynyrd what do you think the reserves could do? I'm looking at all this debt I'm going to be buried in and I'm honestly considering becoming a weekend warrior just to get the Post 9/11. On top of the numerous scholarships AFROTC is claiming they offer at ERAU, I might cleanse myself of all this stress.
@@Vanskynyrd is an aeronautical science degree any good does it have potential if you get ferloded
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Not sure what airlines are being referenced but the major, Southwest for sure, require a bachelor's.
ICanDoItMyself just like delta and American, maybe he’s talking about corporate, not sure myself
Hi. I really think that you made total sense and i should probably do it your way, but what do you think about airlines partnering with universities like UND, with the DELTA PROPEL program and united's CAREER PATH PROGRAM and many other airline programs that get you straight into commercial regional business, plus it'll then be easier for you get into the main legacy transcontinental/nonstop long haul flights. I'd love to hear your opinion on this......
Your absolutely correct. I wanted to attend Enbry Riddle, but the projected cost was so high, I never went. Simply unaffordable
What if you plan on going to community college for aviation?
Can you still make it to the airlines if you trained at a local flight school which operates under part 61? Do airlines look at where you got your ratings from?
Ryan,
Great video. I'm a high school student still trying to figure out my options in aviation. I'm not sure if college is right for me, but I can see your valid points here. I don't think I'd want to attend an aviation university anyways, but have you had any experience with / know anyone who has gone to a non-aviation 4 year program and trained/worked in aviation on the side? Example: getting a business degree while training at a 61 school nearby your college on the weekends, while not in class, etc. Personally, do you think that's worth it over doing something online later on (I'm sorta aiming at the security/stability aspect of getting it done early), or even as soon as you graduate HS (primarily training at a 61 school, online degree on the side).
Thanks in advance!
so a pilot School else where & going to school at a college not apart of the college could save you money I'll try to calculate assuming school costing this and pilot School outside of school cost you this. correct me if I'm wrong pilot School is like what 10-40,000? and then a degree 17,000 a semester? so 160,000 tops your degree you'll be paying 206,000+ maybe you find cheaper places
hey dude whats your update after 3 years?
Hey Ryan, I paused the video right once u talked about college. So basically, first question, do the Airlines such as United , American, and Southwest require a college degree? I heard u say that regionals don’t require it, but my goal is to get to the major airlines at some point but start off with the regionals. Last question, do Airlines like Southwest, American, Delta etc look and see on your application to the airline that u went to ATP and that I won’t have to go to college? Thanks!
US Aviation it all depends on the airline and recruiter, I can't speak on their behalf. All stated is just my opinions and personal research. I think building quality time is the most important thing but a degree does set you apart from those that don't have one.
Great video! I'm 44, got a masters degree, and seriously considering going to ATP for a commercial airline pilot career. I'm I crazy? Is this realistic and doable at my age? Thanks.😎👍
Albert you got 21 years to make it happen. you could go far in that amount of time
do it Albert!!! You only have one life!!! Make it count!!
Yee Haw thanks so much for your encouragement and channel. I will give it my best. 😎👍
freezedried94 Thanks for the cheer on. I plan to give it my best shot.😎👍👨🏻✈️
Albert of course man!! I'll be starting at ATP in a month so I'll be right there with you if you decide to go through ATP
I will say after doing some research it looks like envoy has a deal with atp to get you to mainline without a degree. It states they are the only regional carrier that can do it after 5 years. Also regional pay has gone up increasing fast and is now very good from what I can see. Also regionals don't require a degree anymore.. So that's a good thing
hey buddy I like your videos so keep them up I got a quick question thou in my area there's like a community college that offers morning professional pilot
degree is it better if I go to that Community College if I go to that Community College because it is only 60 k pain when I finish I'm going to have all my license like the private pilot's and commercial license and of course that two years degree on it and then I'm going to have to find a job as CFl because they don't have that job with them itself I also have another option that one is that I can get my private pilot license and then go to ATP but I won't have the 2 years degree and I do the last one which one you think will be the best way to go
You're great!
I really really want to do this
I could go fly for a 135 carrrier like Boutique at 18, and do online college. Or go to a normal college for 4 years then be at the airlines at 21. I’ll be an airline pilot for 44 years, is those extra 3 years of flying from Phoenix to Silver City Arizona worth missing out on the college expierience? No.
As someone else also going to ERAU, I feel like it's a decent school to go to, except for Aeronautical Science. Sure, the prices are high regardless, but they seem fairly reasonable for the kind of school that they are. Currently I'm enrolled for Air Traffic Management, though I was originally going to go for Aeronautical Science, which, I decided to not do because of the prices of the flights. Through the school, it'd cost me maybe $17,500 to get my the PPL, where if I just went to do it outside of the school, at the least it'd maybe only cost me only $10,000. So, going with piloting through ERAU? Nah. But, their other classes are okay.
What if you can only afford an actual university since it's the only place here in Puerto Rico that qualifies for student aid or student loans?
Thanks so much for this video. Really clears up a lot since I am actually doing the exact same. Just one question: won't it hold me back when I get to that regional captain position and then have to wait another 3 years too be able to apply with majors because I'm waiting to finish my degree?
Work on your degree while you're at the regionals. If you are there roughly 4 years, two FO, two CPT... you'll finish and upgrade to the majors on schedule. Also... The majors hire people without degrees... it's not wide spread or common... yet... but they do. Degree is a very good idea, never really a bad thing but just saying the market needs pilots and the airlines want revenue more than they want your degree. We will see what aviation has in store for us over the next decade... cheers
Nice. didn't think about it that way. definitely sounds likes a plan!
So I want to become a professional pilot, but can't start any training until next year. What would you recommend I do to prepare for ATP until I can actually get there?
Are there some iPad content I could download and study in the mean time?
So I’m better off taking the 9 month flight course at atp then my college 2 year flight course
What was the total amount for being a pilot
Hi Ryan what are your thoughts on liberty university?
What if I get my degree through them and my licenses through another school
I am currently at a community college working in my associates in Journalism. I pay no money in my Community college because I qualified to get my two years covered by a program. This means that I get to keep my FAFSA money and scholarship money. After I’m done with my associates, I’m looking to transfer to a university. I’m considering transferring to a university that has an Aviation program, what do y’all think of it? Should I do that or go into a different school. I want to become a pilot but I don’t know what would be the best option.
Hey l like your videos brother l got a quick question, right now I'm in process of trying to figure out which way could the best one for me, where l live there's this community college that offers a two years professional pilot degree in which you get all rating and licenses for 60k total cost but here is the problem they won't help you find a job as a cfl so you have to do it yourself something l don't like about them, the other way l have is that l can get private pilot certificate and then go to ATP without the degree but get all benefits that ATP offers which one do you think could be the way to go bc l don't want to waste any money.
Great vid but here is the big question can you go to ATP without a college degree/ PPL?
yes
the real question is a aeronautical science degree any good? i already have all my endorsements for a part 61 school and did a flight tech associates program in a community college should i transfer to a aviation college for half a year just to get the Degree?
My life long dream since I was 6 years old is to be a airline pilot. I’m a Air Force veteran weapons troop. Worked on B-1, A-10, F-15. I’m 35 and 100% scheduler disabled veteran. I have my Gi bill and a bunch of other VA benefits. There is a embry-riddle campus at Fairchild AFB near me. But I really just want to be a pilot. Currently a engineer for a class 1 railroad and every time I go past a local airport I long to be there. What advice could anyone give me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you
Planning on going thru ATP then getting a 4 yr degree in humanities online.. Yes the easiest degree there is to obtain! Lol.. I hope that's enough to get on witj a major airline one day..
Would it be smart to leave a regional airline after you get your online degree and go to a bigger airline like southwest, United
Matthew Biason
Obviously yes
I live in Chicago and the weather is crazy over here so I’m planning to start my flight training at ATP here. Should I go somewhere else for my training where the weather is good or it doesn’t matter ?
Aysha A , yeah I found something , we gotta go somewhere warmer like Florida.
ATP requires an associate degree before you can start with them so your calculations may be a little off. So when the student joins All ATP they would be 20 with the student loan
Yeah ATP has that associates degree as a requirement. So I'm 18 now. Graduate HS in a little over a month. Going on a full ride scholarship to a state college for 2 years. Then I'm going to ATP. I'd like to be at that 22 year old mark when I go to the corporate level.
Noble Eskimo Get a bachelors because you won’t get any high paying jobs with out it.
If coast is your issue then you may want to consider Elizabeth City State University. ECSU is affordable and they have a NC Promise Tuition Program that makes it all worth while.
Dude when iam going be a pilot when iam going to be big it’s my dream Emirates
I am in high school and I want to be a pilot. My grandparents are going to pay for my college/training. Forgetting about the debt, what is the best way for me to take? I think that the large airlines prefer someone with an in campus college degree though
Considering what he said, going through the flight school route may not add as much weight on your shoulders than attending a 4 year college like Embry Riddle. I am also a high school student and I was interested in joining Embry Riddle and did not realize how grand the cost is and how much it will keep me in debt throughout my life. Major airlines do prefer those with college degrees but again, it's only preference. Now that I have watched his video, I personally am moving away from my idea of going to Embry Riddle and will not dig my grave even deeper. If you want to pay less debt when working as an airline pilot, join a flight school not a 4 year college, especially Embry Riddle. They are a business. I've heard many stories of students that attend ER and are stuck paying off large amounts of money out of pocket and that the education is not worth it. Additionally, like the guy said, you might as well attend a flight school where you can knock off all your requirements in a year and gain more knowledge about flight more than anything and quickly start working rather than going to a 4 year. Choose carefully. Safe travels.
I'm 21 years old with my instrument rating and and engineering student thing to get my commercial, but a heavy class load makes it difficult to do both, would give advice for people to skip first year of college and attain rating while teaching others to fly while in college instead of trying to acquire ratings in between classes
Right now there will be a shortage in pilots soon so I don’t think a special degree would help since there will be such a big window
Hey Bro M 26 and I want to start up for CPL from Malaysia APFT Flying School..is it good ?
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I start Spartan Aviation in July. Fast track program similar to ATP. They offer a bachelor degree program. So a person can go and graduate under 3 years.
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Prop&Gear I think your spot on... I'm 27... it took me starting a life and realizing that this is not what I want to do! The fast track programs are worth the time and money.
Embry Riddle does take ratings for credit. 24 for commercial, Over 30 for Multi & Instrument. He's right on the money, literally. I've got an AS in Aeronautics from ER, and about to get my BS. You CAN work while doing it online. It's NOT an easy school, but worth it! It's MUCH cheaper than attending the full school... I do my flight training privately, and save a ton of money...
Some one please help me should i go to Lewis University which is an aviation college or go to Illinois Aviation Academy which is flight school or do i have to do both.
Should I go to SJSU? It has one of the best aviation programs in the world, and I live close by. I do have enough money to go. I still have 2 years to decide tho
I want Military aviation, Navy, So I still need a degree in order to become an officer in the Military. I want my degree to do with somethinf on aviation, I was thinking about going to ERAU and gettinf a scholarship with NROTC. They pay full tution and fees. Any other better options?
If you just want to fly for the military I highly suggest looking into the Air National Guard. It'd e by far your best shot. Most units don't care what degree you have as long as you have a degree. And as far as flight experience it really depends on how many people are applying during a given cycle. There are some people who were hired with zero hours because more slots were available than applicants
Thank you for this, I'm still trying to figure things out. Would it be acceptable for me to get an associates degree in aviation management at a local community college and then head on to ATP where I would start from zero? I'm aiming for the major airlines (end goal)
I've same question
I wanna do the same thing. What’s your progress?
So in order to join the international career(Basically not regional), you NEED a degree? Lets say you have 3500 hours and twin engine rating and all other skills from the regional airline. Does the airline require you to have a degree.
No airlines requires a degree, but you would have a higher chance of getting in.
What about ATP
What’s your opinion a course where you get your associate degree, and ratings in 17 mo?
So, after you get in airlines at 21, you can get an online course to get a degree to fly bigger airlines, like United, Delta...etc??? And what happens when you don't get a scholarship, what should I do, or what can I do?
Luis Lepe apply to online pilot scholarships they are EVERYWHERE and the add up. maybe $500 here or $750 there, $1000 if ur lucky, they add up and you would be in a great situation to be granted.
From what I'm tracking the major airlines are waving degree requirements now due to the pilot shortage. They are coming to a realization that flight schools are financially better for a pilot and they can go to school while being a commercial pilot like he mentioned. Honestly what's the point in having a degree for a pilot lol?
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How to you built your time to 1000 hrs ? Thanks.