20 Year Old Genius Tried EVERYTHING to Beat Me! Novice Noah vs WGM Dina Belenkaya
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- The @CoffeeChess crew can't stop challenging Woman Grandmaster Dina Belenkaya and this time, we meet Novice Noah, a very tricky chess player who doesn't seem to be so "Novice" as his nickname suggests.
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Dina seems both emotionally and psychologically damaged. Likely from unresolved chilhood issues. I hope she finds closure soon.
Dad issues
In fairness, the kid did lie to her multiple times to disarm her. 🤷
I just checked the Coffee Chess video. It says "Reminder: We're Playing Clock Move unless players in game state Touch Move." So does this mean that the young guy WAS playing according to the rules?
@@eac26114653 i mean she did state touch move and had announced earlier that she’ll be playing touch move she even mentioned it.
Better not, or less use words "seem" "likely" indicate uncertainty . One thing is for sure here. This Russian girl is a very strong player.
Respect to Dina for having the openness and integrity to post a video of herself bullying a small child.
He is 20 years old....not a kid!
😂😂😂😂
20 year old dude, not a kid. 🤣
Throughout the whole game you play a friendly game with trash talking and all and then all of a sudden you wanna play professionally, that's not how it works. I think you felt that too after the game.
Everyone knows that if you take something, you have to play with it, even in a friendly game.
The rules are the rules, for grownups anyway!
Yeah but he didn’t let on he was a champion until half way through the game
He's not a champion chess player
utter nonsense, if you watch the vid, it's clear he agreed to touch move or else he wouldn't have conceded the fact.
Aside from the rules established or not, Dina acted childish with her tantrum. Noah just showed her how to act like a professional.
incorrect. Dina was right, the child was wrong, no ands, ifs or buts about it. The fact that he tried to cheat twice says it all.
@@retniretep9477 EXACTLY, but remember that 70% of population is a midwit, so you will always have majority in the wrong because only few percent is super intelligent and not gifted will always struggle and ultimately fail to comprehend their thought process.
"Who else did you not beat" was funny. She can come up with some good lines from time to time. I always find her interesting, because it's like she never stops "playing games" with people. Making it hard to know what the real Dina is like ( I mean, when she's not playing chess and trash talking.)
Comedic timing on that line was sublime. Also, a musician perhaps? Piano Gang I'm guessing.
Nah she's pretty boring
Dina needs some love. Someone help her.
Lol
That’s a fact.
I would give her some love for everyone else's sake, but I'm not into gollum-faced bullies.
@@jonadam5505 Why u so mad? Its just a game.
@@pauloalmeida3728 I have a big issue with bullies Paulo, a big issue. I know you don't see it because you like Dina (as did I) , but she was a total bully here, really sad too see. I'm not mad, just disappointed. I also think you are a punk and acting high and mighty because you like Dina, you make me sick as well bro. I'm guessing you watched this and think Dina was acting just fine. Fool.
15k views in 4 days would contradict such a claim.
Noah is such a class act. Keep up the hard work young master 🤗. Gg to both!
Until now Novice Noah has been the one who has dealt with Dina psychological war the best in @Coffechess without compromising the game quality. Waiting for the rematch😋
More like "childish bullying"
It’s called tough love. He’s a better chess player for this interaction.
One's prowess is not necessarily enhanced by this kind of game, but one's fame is apt to be at least amongst the rabble.
@@StevenSon-dt7zr It’s not necessarily diminished either. Got to play by the rules… these are mistakes he can’t make in tournaments. Dina is a good teacher.
@@Jbb7272 The environment of a game such as this might do more harm than good for one's future in tournament play. Or it might have no effect if he's fortunate. Throwing rocks in the road, doesn't necessarily make one a better driver, as such boulders don't arise under the formal setting. The excitement, fun and fame may well be worth the risk of boulders such as this. And from the standpoint of an evolutionary biologist, the benefit of fame gained from playing such a mate may actually be inherently beneficial, considering enhanced prospects as an artifact of fame. A Faustian bargain it might be, as one isn't inclined to touch inappropriately during tournament play, as so on streets of informal coffee-housed set. It would be remarkable to find out that this American champion ever once came close to making such a touching move during tournament play, as it seems here to be an artifact/consequence of the chaotic informal smack -talking setting. A public review of what some might consider a sanctimonious rant about the path to Grandmastership whilst the journey is well far motion by now, might be just as likely to benefit the issuer as the recipient. Lo, perhaps he's the teacher as well in this instance, and her enlightenment shall be the reverberating effect of this encounter in the end game.
@@StevenSon-dt7zr it’s not that complicated… one of these people is a Grand Master. One is not. Sure, I’ll grant you. If the kid does not want to be a top tier chess player she was harsh. If he does want to be a top tier chess player then it’s exactly what he needs.
In the world of competitiveness you need to ask yourself: WWJD… What would Jordan do?
Be better. There is nothing wrong with following the rules. All the BEST players do.
@@Jbb7272 Simple indeed. During tournament play, he is no more apt to breach rules on touch than she is to breech rules of decorum. The lesson is performative, effective as a marketing tool. A rant bringeth audience to our virtual table, to places they mightn't elsewise saunter. Said rant be unlikely to improve the gentleman's game, as it's plenty enhanced through other means unassociated with this passing instance.
Good game, Dina! You won again!
Coffee Chess has always been clock move. Dina's tantrum cost Noah 20 seconds off the clock. That's cheating. Then, she went on a condescending rant. Kudos to Noah for holding his own and handling her rudeness with class; something that Dina has none of. Her idea of trash-talk isn't friendly banter, rather hurtful personal insults.
You are a SNOWFLAKE
Well said! She's rude and obnoxious.
Nope, it cost him about 36 seconds. She was so agitated that she confused the length of their argument with the reading on the clock.
@@hhgygy You're probably right. I didn't go back and count the seconds. Either way, it was bad sportsmanship at the highest level. She could have paused the clock to resolve the dispute, as Noah was ahead at that point. But maybe it is a good lesson for him in how to remain focused and calm, when the opponent cheats like that. She was just a terrible ambassador of chess throughout the game.
Y’all are taking it wrong. Dina didn’t care about touch move. She was intentionally distracting him with an argument to burn his clock. She wasn’t serious, she was playing street chess and Noah got flustered. She even realized how he took it and she felt bad, that’s why she pretended to be pondering the position and let her clock mostly burn out after that.
I look forward to seeing ppl humble Dina. 🤣 ❤️
What a great game. Holy hell.
This does not reflect well.
Well, coffee's one helluva drug.
It's a game, for entertainment.. she's being playful and having banter
lol even Carlini and Alan and others yell "touch!" during their games but people only seem to care when Dina does it.
@@PaulPavloPablo Yeah, but usually they're sorta kidding, and ultimately relent, allowing the move change. And I've never seen any of them lay on smack talk like this.
Dina rubbing it in after the touch move was so funny omg🤣🤣
Dina, it’s okay to lose. She did everything she could to try not to lose, instead of just playing chess! Coffee chess is always a friendly environment, and she “calls an arbitrator”, wastes his clock, then picks on him for feeling wronged. And he still almost won!! Good job Noah for not making a deal out of it 👏👏
At a tournament you are not allowed to talk and Dina is talking continuously.
How can the opponent focus on the game?
Sure, this is not a tournament. Trash talking is the norm for coffee chess, which is a group of people playing at some coffee shop, I think in California. Whether she stepped over the line of friendly trash talk, into being rude, is a matter of subjective opinion of course, but a lot of people posting here didn't care for her behavior in this game. Well, she posted this video, so if she reads the comments ( which I doubt,) she might see fit to tone things down.
@@michaelbauers8800 - You said precisely what I thought. I guess this is a kind of strategy for distracting, sometimes women are so annoying talking nonsense. Anyway, I like Dina's channel. Have a great day, Mike.
Honestly I love Dina for this. I love that she's herself, unfiltered, no bullshit.
I felt uncomfortable just watching this video... I can't imagine how people who were there felt, witnessing this akward situation. This is not fun to be around people like that... bad vibes...
Dina doesn't have a good personality. She is the type of person who likes to boss people around.🤣🤣🤣
This kid was living rent free in her head just being quiet.😂
Facts
'Who else didn't you beat?' 😆 Oof!
People in here complaining about her trash talk, but honestly, that's what Coffee Chess is all about. It may usually be fun banter, but trash talk is trash talk and Coffee Chess finally met it's match.
She even made Duck a nervous mess. She's awesome. Noah handled it the best until she just started yelling in his face lol
@@Kyle_Riel Don't get me wrong: I thought this was a brilliant bit of banter. Absolutely crushing, in best Belenkaya style.
Maybe Dina was just trying to make some lighthearted banter but honestly I can see why everybody seemed upset after the game. Coffee Chess is very clear about their clock-move rule and I don't believe Noah and Dina agreed on touch-move beforehand, also I personally don't like being shouted at so just seeing their interaction through the video made me uncomfortable, I can't imagine how uncomfortable he felt.
Pity
Wow you must be the typical triggered snowflake constantly.
I'm guessing you have no idea what truly being uncomfortable is. As it's not this Jaffa !
oh you don't believe they agreed on touch move beforehand? then it must be true! the fact that he never denied it should mean nothing if YOU don't believe it!
There is no reason to "agree" on it. That is the rule. You don't "agree" on it - it is already there.
Dina's trash talk is demeaning.
I love that novice👏🏻do another game with him
Dina is a straight up savage
I've been to St Petersburg, the bridges go up in the evening so you have to plan your moves 🙂
gotta rematch this guy, he was winning +4 on stockfish
She knew it too, that's why she had to pull a fast one.
Everyone is hating on Dina for the touch move when we all know that if Noah said that nothing would be wrong. Get yourselves together.
Nice game Noah.
poor guy unleashed a demon by touching the pawn for 0.02 seconds
Dark Energy Dina isn't FKNG around!
She knew she wouldnt have been able to win so she tried everything to win 20 year old genius
I've been watching coffee chess for years. They don't play touch move.
We all know who actually won that game. Too bad to see Dina so desperate. Also, in a recent game against Duck, Dina touched a piece and Duck let her go back without worrying about the situation. Everyone knows the rules of CoffeeChess and its clock move.
utter nonsense, if you watch the vid, it's clear he agreed to touch move or else he wouldn't have conceded the fact.
haha i love watching Dina play chess
She really didn't do herself any favors with that.
you were the one trying everything to beat him
I don’t know, I think It’s pretty icky how men at coffee chess and in this comment section talk about Dina’s looks and say they will “take her home” etc. I can’t blame Dina for having such a competitive streak…
Title of the video should be: 20 year old genius defeated me while I tried everything to make my loss acceptable 😊
Or "20 year old was playing better than me so I threw a tantrum to win."
@@sd67b Agree with you.
Jaffa above is just trolling every comment
she played the game with her mouth more than her mind, strategy!
Well....he did fail to move his king out of check. What is she supposed to DO???
The young man broke the rules twice, and people are taking his side for some reason. How is he going to get better at chess, and win if he doesn't even want to follow the rules? Sure, it's a casual game, but that doesn't mean there are no rules.
Different places have different etiquete I guess but when I played "winner stays" cafe chess in Sweden the touch move rule was respected unless it was evidently a case of forgot to say I adjust.
I thought the norm at coffee chess was clock move?
@@michaelbauers8800 irrelevant and utter nonsense, if you watch the vid, it's clear he agreed to touch move or else he wouldn't have conceded the fact.
@@retniretep9477man's obsessed defending her lmao. Stop typing the same comment 10 times it's humiliating
@@stratosm3154 if you like feeling humiliated, no one can help you, baby.
Dina screaming about tournament rules, while she heckles, insults and speaks to her opponent during his moves ...
I would like to meet Dina, she be putting fear in her OPP
Q f4 was the move at 938 for Dina. Love her long time.
I was pulling for Noah.
Been watching Novice Noah for years on Coffee Chess. Love how well he played even while getting yelled at. Tbh if she didn't berate him for a minute about touch move i think he could've won. There is trash talk and then there is direct insults/ being obnoxious. (however i do feel this is partially a cultural thing)
It's called being a snowflake !
She knocked the smile off his face when she said he looked 15.
He does look 15 though.
@@paper_gem You don't have to say it.. I mean your Ugly in the face but I would never say it too your face...
Title should be "I tried everything to beat 20 year-old genius".
Is the title supposed to be ironic?
Amateur used to mean...not paid. So I find it hard to believe everyone should know that it means titled. After all, we already have a clear word, for that which is "titled" :) But I admit people use amateur to mean beginner in some cases, or not good in other cases.
The Dad he would have beaten you on time. Woulda Coulda Shoulda. Dina prevails once again.
ok bro you still ain't hitting
In order to have a chance with chess queen, Dina, you're going to have to beat her at chess and be a good trash talker .
Good game.
She’s hilarious
Dina ruined the spirit of the game. Its not a tournament chill out.
lol even Carlini and Alan and others yell "touch!" during their games but people only seem to care when Dina does it.
@@PaulPavloPablo they say it as a joke and to mess with their opponent. They don’t actually make their opponent move the piece.
Your dumb comment ruined it for me.
So, stupid question, what was the illegal move at 10:02?
he moved his Queen while his King was in check mate by her Queen
I wonder why her relationships don’t last 💀
Dina just didn't want to get beaten by a young buck. lol
07:30 - Freaking unfair play shouting at your opponent for over 30 seconds in a 5 minute game. What kind of chess-player are you, Dina? You deserve a pin of shame.
If they are playing touch move and the person doesn't follow the rules then she has every right to call them out on it.
Is a chess game for CZcams, you need to talk and make it entertained.
@@PaulPavloPabloThey weren't though. Coffee Chess has a clock-move policy unless both players agree beforehand to play touch-move, and judging by everyone's reactions Noah most certainly did not agree to touch-move beforehand.
@@javierrodrigo1009 You're wrong Jaffa!
Pay attention
@@TheFlanker47 Exactly, agree with you.
Love Dina trash talk.
Shame there are so many snowflakes and people who are triggered by a cough
I love that you look at him like a lioness at an antelope 🥰
She couldn't help it. The predator in her came out.
She likes him
?!?!?!
She's angry at him, because he is younger and better looking and until she pulled a fast one, he was better at Chess.
i think they made love after
She try to teach Noah to become a good chess player for the future....who knows next champion world class❤🎉
I've never, not once seen anyone call "Touch" and was actually serious who played at Coffee Chess. Dina, was scared and became a rule shark. She burnt the clock down by throwing a hissy fit. Only reason she "Won..." was because she wussed out on "Touch" Very poor gamesmanship.
Amen!
Comments against Dina are pathetic.
This young man is a rude little liar.
Comment section full of snowflakes who are triggered by breathing
chill dina
I didn't know Transylvania was in Russia
Good game! I think what you did was fine Dina, help Noah play under pressure! Also, more good practice for real tourneys
Another man sticking up for Dina, I wonder why? pfft.
Don’t do that to that man! He should of just went ahead and move what he wants and hit the clock👏🏻 waste her time
Love watching Dina play. Good game.
For those interested in how pieces are moved, Fischer gave a demonstration on the Dick Cavett Show. One of the guests, Sandy Duncan, commented on Fischer’s technique.
I love your games, Dina ❣️
Stop drooling over the bully, fool.
Eat him alive, Dina!!! 🤣😂
Clock Move is the standard rule at Coffee Chess , not touch move. It's literally posted at the beginning of EVERY Coffee Chess video. Just sayin' .
utter nonsense, if you watch the vid, it's clear he agreed to touch move or else he wouldn't have conceded the fact.
"You're actually being very annoying, you know?"
Wow, just wow.
While she might have been rude at times, that was definitely her trying to be funny IMO. A lot of players say similiar things to their opponents.
Dina is definitely the best coffee chess guest of all time lol.
She's definitely the single best trash talker ever on the show. I've watched all of her Coffee Chess episodes and she throws off EVERYONE with her trash talking. It's awesome
Dina is too fine. An Eastern heart throb!!!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Dina 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
GOOD VIDEO, THANK S, CANADIAN FAN BORN IN RUSSIA
A very well-played game up until the time scramble. For most of the game, both sides played at a grandmaster level.
Regarding the dispute: the touch-move rule has been part of chess for the last 500 years, and Noah was wrong to try to take back his g-pawn move. As an example of proper sportsmanship, consider the 1960 game at Buenos Aires between Wolfgang Unzicker and the 17-year-old Bobby Fischer. In a difficult but salvageable position, Fischer touched his h-pawn, noticed at the last moment that his intended move exposed him to a tactic, and finally played an absurd move with the h-pawn in recognition of the touch-move requirement. Fischer didn't complain, and his opponent didn't have to appeal to the arbiter. Fischer accepted that he was responsible for his own mistake and followed the rules, even though it resulted in a terrible position that he lost in another 10 moves.
Yeah, I don't understand why so many people here are whinging about Dina following the rules. She's a GM. What should she do? Abandon the rules?
@@paper_gem Actually, there is an alternative to getting into an argument. When Magnus Carlsen violated the touch-move rule against Alexandra Kosteniuk in the 2009 World Blitz Championships, Kosteniuk simply stopped the clock and claimed the win.
Эх, Дина, что с тобой будет через лет 30, страшно представить. Бабушки у подъезда не такие токсичные и ворчливые. Kappa
Dina made a huge deal out of touch and burned about 25 seconds of Noah's clock. At coffee chess (where this game was played) the touch is almost always mentioned as a joke and forgotten. i might have just resigned after that big blowup over touch. If someone wants a game that bad they can have it, especially when there is that much difference in skill level! Dina played this game like her life depended on it against a much lower rated player, pulling out all the stops - Who else have you not beaten? a other comments! Maybe she was trying to be light hearted, if that is the case she needs to revise her humor! Because many of the comments came across as debasing!
You can't take the heat get out the kitchen.
I did not see that big of a difference in skill level, actually Dina played horribly...
utter nonsense, if you watch the vid, it's clear he agreed to touch move or else he wouldn't have conceded the fact.
Also, the clock burning is his fault for not immediately moving after he knew he was wrong. She wasn't forcing him to not move, he was simply delaying because he got flustered and couldn't adjust to the unexpected.
If you can't handle Dina's style, stick to watching official tournaments.
@@retniretep9477 Or just watch any of the other 1000 videos on coffee chess which do not verbally shove people against the wall like this one. (I have been watching coffee chess and other chess for years and I have never seen this before - I am not saying I know a lot about chess - I don't - Intermediate level player)
@@advancednutritioninc908 irrelevant when you have the video showing the interaction between these SPECIFIC two people and at the SPECIFIC match in question where it's clear he agreed to touch move or else he wouldn't have conceded the fact. This video also clearly shows the clock burning is his fault for not immediately moving after he knew he was wrong. THIS video also shows she wasn't forcing him to not move, he was simply delaying because he got flustered and couldn't adjust to the unexpected.
Bottom Line: If you can't handle the facts of the case and prefer to live in some other reality based on some other cases then go watch those and forget about this one.
What a great personality?!?
So when she's not good enough to win, she throws a temper tantrum and uses anything to avoid a loss. Sometimes when someone is much better than you, you should just graciously accept your defeat.
What are you talking about? Are you some kind of priest ?
Yeah if you're a loser
@primitiveplanet8202 You don't know what playing for content is about. And that's sad if you are visiting this channel.
@@pauloalmeida3728 You don't need to be a priest (of any religion) to establish unfair play and ridiculous conduct.
In an 'orthodox' chess game where proper chess etiquette is expected, sure. But for an entertaining/educational chess channel, ESPECIALLY in regards to @coffeechess where it is notorious for people to smack talk each other, it's more enjoyable to watch some playful animosity go down. I suggest to not take it too seriously and stop policing people around regarding what they can and cannot do.
Good game. And he plays well.
My 11 year old son calls you DINA B… he says “DINA B MEAN!!” or “DINA be clever” or when you were in NYC and pushed 2 pieces at the same time .. he said “DINA B CHEATED”… anyway I thought I’d mention it because I think DINA B is a cool name
I would like to play against Dina just to talk trash and insult her probably for my entire 5 mins hahahaha
I see no difference between a bully and her 😅
Where's Bobby Knight, Where's John McEnroe to address this clear violation, coopting the role of referee, judge and jury. Don't make everyone have to state the obvious in perpetuity. Next time one might simply move the piece, having touched a nerve, to override unjust protestations.
Dina is like that "friend" of yours who only cares about winning, those friends who are willing to argue, fight and even lose your friendship just for the sake of winning. One reason why coffee chess is so great is because of their great trash talk. Dina doesn't have any idea of what that means.
I agree with it all. Dina was a total bully here, and she doesn't even realize it, she thinks she's being cool, when in reality she just needs to get some Dyk. Poor girl needs it bad, she's tearing down children to feel better about herself at this point.
@@jonadam5505 20 is a child?
@@michaelbauers8800 Apparently you haven't interacted with 20 year olds lately.
utter nonsense, if you watch the vid, it's clear he agreed to touch move or else he wouldn't have conceded the fact.
The fact that you'd side with a cheater and not support scolding a cheater shows you are prone to support Trumpism.
Dina finally winning after wasting her opponents time and disturbing his mindset
ice cold
That's how lioness does lol ^^
"You want to be a grandmaster?!!" Not one that behaves like that.
Thanks for the content though.
That’s what u call I wana desperately win you need another beating by BOTEZ get your mind right
So you think it's okay to let your opponent break the rules in chess? If they agreed to touch move then it's not okay for him to lie and change his mind later on in the game. Morphy bob asked if they agreed to touch move and she said yes and Noah didn't said no. So my guess is that it was agreed on because Noah didn't deny it when she said they agreed. So if they agreed to it then it's not right for Noah to not follow his promise.
Men being judged with their age is like nothing happen. T.T
Y’all are taking it wrong. Dina didn’t care about touch move. She was intentionally distracting him with an argument to burn his clock. She wasn’t serious, she was playing street chess and Noah got flustered. She even realized how he took it and she felt bad, -that’s why she pretended to be pondering the position and let her clock mostly burn out after that- (I take that last part back. She wasn’t pretending to ponder; she really didn’t have a good line.)
No thats totally not true. She had diffculties to find the right move there. And that was clear because she made a blunder after that, reall soon. And she was dead serious. The second time she could get him she did it without hesitation. So she was just the person she is. Nothing wrong with it. Just who she is. Love it, hate it or dont care it. Your choice.
@@eugenerademaker4145 I looked at it again and yeah she did seem to be struggling a bit to find the right move. Still, I think she was just joking and making him waste time with the whole touch move thing.
I find it hard to tell with Dina. It's partly peforming for the camera, no doubt. And probably because she likes to trash talk. Did she feel threatened, and result to bad behavior? Maybe. I can't see, only she knows for sure :)
@@michaelbauers8800 I think you are right with "performing for the camera" she needs views and probabbly she is acting for that. I can understand. It is just a hole different vibe then lets say Eric Rosen. He is allways so humble and "down to earth" vibe. Dina is just not that. And thats oke. Just different.
Sometimes you are screaming like a crazy, which makes it hard to watch
More like you are trying everything to beat him!!!!
Dina cannot play without talking.
That was a super shitty move, forcing Noah to play touch move, especially since nobody plays this way in coffee chess. Thats not trash talking, that's just being unfair, especially since you're a WGM. Last video of you I watch
I see CZcams is throttling the service now. Trying to make people open their wallets. I have 800 Mbps service and it is not me that's choking.
I love the way Dina doesn't take any sh*t. Love her.
Noah will beat you next time. In a fair match, without this crazy tantrum style of cheating.
I wondered what his rating was? If he can beat a WGM, and I thought that was possible here, I would think he's over 2000?