She was deffo the best player at that time nobody could beat her but that horrible tragedy change the story of women's tennis for sure she was going to be the best player of all time
I totally agree. Once you have an experience like that it will surely affect your biomechanics quite drastically, never mind one's psychology and over all spirit. She did amazing regardless.
Thank you! Yes it's terrible what happened. 8 grand slams as a teenager is unbelievable. She might have set new records. Glad you enjoyed the video & thank you for your support.
No, Seles profited from three extremely favorable factors when she took over the #1 ranking fir two years in 1991-93: 1) Navratilova was already 34/37 years old (and yet beat Seles 4 times!) 2) Graf was in a major slump during the infamous Graf Blackmail Scandal (lost 7 of 8 matches against Sabatini at some point in 1990-92) 3) Hingis (who always - sometimes brutally - had Seles‘s number) was just 11/12-years old. The stars just aligned for her. Court, Evert, Navratilova, Steffi, Hingis, Venus, Serena, Henin at their peak were clearly better players.
@@carrerau7138 crazy, immature, petty, psycho Graf fan at it again. Who obviously absolutely hates Monica because of what she accomplished, and the fact that the stabbing did propell Graf back into the number one position, and so many fans to this day believe Graf would not have won as much if the stabbing hadn't occurred. Because of that this fuels his fire decades later to stalk CZcams videos to diminish Monica's accomplishments just to uplift Graf. He is exactly what Graf once proclaimed as one of her crazy fans.
@@carrerau7138 "usually lost?" She lost to Graf three times in her first year as a professional tennis player, and then she defeated Graf in three out of their four grand slam meetings that they met before the stabbing. How many times do you think Graf defeated Seles in Grand Slam finals before the stabbing?
Steffi definitely did go to see her in the hospital the morning after the attack. There was heavy tv news coverage of it. I’m not sure how long she stayed or whether Graf contacted/visited her again after that (maybe that’s what Monica meant?), but Graf definitely visited Monica in hospital - that is well-documented.
It amazes me that she came back at only 75 or 80 percent of her top form. And was able to compete with all the great players of that era and still managed to beat them on occasion. A 100 percent Seles was still better then all those players when coming back from the stabbing.
Nonsense. In the first 14 months after her return she was better than ever. Her problem was that Steffi had regained her normal level and the emergence of Hingis. No free lunch for her anymore. From 1997 injuries took their toll.
@@forehandfrenzy I enjoyed many aspects of this video, but I think what I enjoyed the most was your perspective on Seles’ greatest legacy: that through her hard work and perseverance, Seles showed us even though life can be unpredictable and challenge us in unexpected ways, we can still work hard and achieve excellence. As a huge Seles fan I sometimes struggle with her stabbing and all the unfairness around it. Your perspective is a brighter vision and I’m glad I encountered it.
She truly was a phenomenal tennis player. Still to this day no one in the Open Era has won as much and as fast as she did from the moment they turned professional until their 20th birthday. Although we will never know now what could have been due to the stabbing, but one thing is for certain we were all robbed of a rivalry with Graf that could have been similar to Evert and Navratilova.
@@carrerau7138 Yes she ended up having the better record in the end, but as we all know Seles' momentum was stopped because of the attack. What she had accomplished before the stabbing and before her 20th birthday, was more than any other player in the open era has ever been able to accomplish (even to this day). I think Graf is one of the all-time greats, there is no question about that, but I personally would have loved to have seen what would have become in the end if the stabbing hadn't occurred. Don't you agree?
@@carrerau7138 that is very possible, but the stabbing did occur as you know and it did stop Monica's momentum. Don't you wish the stabbing hadn't occurred so we could have seen what really would have become in the end? Or are you publicly ready to admit that you are glad that the stabbing did happen?
Ignore him. A crazy, immature, petty, psycho Graf fan at it again. Who obviously absolutely hates Monica because of what she accomplished, that the stabbing propelled Graf back into the number one position, and so many fans to this day believe Graf would not have won as much if the stabbing hadn't occurred. Because of that this fuels his fire decades later to stalk CZcams videos to diminish Monica's accomplishments just to uplift Graf. He is exactly what Graf once proclaimed as one of her crazy fans.
It is beyond me how someone can admire her ugly style of tennis. Doubled-handed back- AND forehand, always pulling a face during play that reminded of a furious rat, screaming like a stung pig….
As #1 player Seles set several records that most probably will stand until eternity: 1) Worst H2H record against any opponent (2-5 against Graf) 2) Worst slam final loss ever (26 16 against Graf, Wimbledon 92) 3) Loss to the youngest player ever (Capriati at age 15 years 128 days, San Diego 91) 4) Loss to the oldest player ever (Navratilova at age 36 years 136 days, Paris 93)
"Worst head to head against any opponent?" What are you talking about?! Here is Graf's petty, immature, and crazy fan at it again. Even though you hate this she is still among the discussion as one of the all time greats, because she had only been on the tour for a couple of years and accomplished so much before the stabbing. Yes she lost to Navratilova here and there, but Navratilova was still a fierce competitor even at the end of her career, and Steffi lost to Navratilova as well. Yes she lost to Capriati, but Capriati was also a great player. Even Steffi lost to Capriati at the Olympics. Yes, she was not invincible, neither was Steffi, Martina N, Serena, or Evert, but after just a short time on the tour she won Grand Slam after another and was charging a head like no other in the open era. Still to this day no one has won as fast as much as she did in the open era before her 20th birthday, and her momentum was only stopped because of a crazy psycho fanatic that was so desperate to help Graf get back on top. Kind of like you who go on all of Seles' videos just to try to diminish her accomplishments to lift Graf up. I'm curious. Don't you also wish the stabbing had never happened so we could have seen what would have really happened in the end, or are you secretly glad that it did happen? Because all I see from you all over these CZcams videos is how much you hate Monica, talk about how ugly you think she was, and try to diminish her accomplishments in any way you can (which is exactly what you just tried to do with this ridiculous comment). Truly is no surprise that when Graf heard that Monica had been stabbed, she said I sure hope it wasn't one of my crazy fans. And here you are decades later still trying to talk crap about Monica because of your obsession with Steffi. You can't even stand it when someone is just talking about how great Monica was. You have to comment and try to diminish her accomplishments just to try to lift Graf up, because obviously you hate Monica so much and the fact that so many people believe Graf would not have won as much as she did if the stabbing hadn't occurred. But in the end you got what you wanted, just like Gunther. But here you are still decades later saying nasty things about Monica. You are truly a sad individual.
@@jamesr2164Seles is nowhere in any discussion about the greatest ever. That would an insult to Court, Evert, Navratilova, Steffi, Serena. We don‘t include Hingis or Henin in GOAT discussions either. Why then Seles?
@@carrerau7138 I'm going by what so many people in the tennis world also believe. Even greats like Billie Jean King, Martina Navratilova, Chris Evert, and fans around the world. She is still considered to be among one of the all-time greats, because even though she would have accomplished so much more if the stabbing hadn't occurred she's still ended her career with 9 Grand Slams, 53 career titles, an Olympic medal, and still to this day in the Open Era only Graf and Serena has been able to win more than 9 grand slams. This is exactly why you hate Monica so much, because to this day she is still spoken of very fondly of by fans and by those that played the game before, and those that are still playing. Your hatred for her and your love for Steffi, is what fuels your fire to still come here on CZcams decades later to try to lift Graf up and bring Seles down. You are exactly what Graf considers to be one of her crazy fans. Think about that next time you decide to say nasty things about Monica, I guarantee you Graf would not approve of your immature and petty comments.
@@carrerau7138 what country they're from has no bearing on that. Is this where your hatred for America comes from? Because I guarantee you I've talked to people that feel the same way from all around the world, not just from America. But I'm curious what country are you from? Are you proud to say that you are from Germany?
Steffi tried several times to reach out to Seles. It was made clear to her by the Seles family that this was not wanted. Steffi revealed that in an interview some years ago. Seles then lying about that caused Steffi to lose any respect for Monica. As a Grafan I don‘t have a lot of respect for her either. Conclusio - you are not necessarily a nice person if you are stabbed.
@@carrerau7138 Oh did you talk to Steffi And and that is what she revealed that she lost her respect for Monica? Is that what she publicly or personally told you? Looks like you are the liar. Smh
@@jamesr2164 I read it in the newspapers. The worst was that Seles implied in one of her books (she really milked that stabbing!) that Steffi voted against Monica keeping her #1 after the stabbing. Classless! You are American, right?
@@carrerau7138 I thought so. So you read it in one of the newspapers/ tabloids. So you don't know for a fact that Steffi really said that or feels that way, but you like to pass it off as truth. Yes, I'm from America and I have no reason to not be proud of it. But guess what, I have been a fan of Monica before her change of citizenship. Now let me ask you for the multiple time, what country are you from? Are you proud to say what country you are from?
@@jamesr2164 Germany. And all this hate towards Steffi and Germany is sad. Thankfully the USA and Serbia are only a fraction of earth‘s population. And outside of those two countries Steffi is well-respected and generally considered to be the greatest ever.
Yes an inspiration. Respect and love for this great lady.
She was deffo the best player at that time nobody could beat her but that horrible tragedy change the story of women's tennis for sure she was going to be the best player of all time
I totally agree. Once you have an experience like that it will surely affect your biomechanics quite drastically, never mind one's psychology and over all spirit. She did amazing regardless.
Thank you! Yes it's terrible what happened. 8 grand slams as a teenager is unbelievable. She might have set new records. Glad you enjoyed the video & thank you for your support.
No, Seles profited from three extremely favorable factors when she took over the #1 ranking fir two years in 1991-93:
1) Navratilova was already 34/37 years old (and yet beat Seles 4 times!)
2) Graf was in a major slump during the infamous Graf Blackmail Scandal (lost 7 of 8 matches against Sabatini at some point in 1990-92)
3) Hingis (who always - sometimes brutally - had Seles‘s number) was just 11/12-years old.
The stars just aligned for her.
Court, Evert, Navratilova, Steffi, Hingis, Venus, Serena, Henin at their peak were clearly better players.
@@forehandfrenzyHingis won 3 slams as a 16-year-old.
She would have become the greatest ever.
@@carrerau7138 crazy, immature, petty, psycho Graf fan at it again. Who obviously absolutely hates Monica because of what she accomplished, and the fact that the stabbing did propell Graf back into the number one position, and so many fans to this day believe Graf would not have won as much if the stabbing hadn't occurred. Because of that this fuels his fire decades later to stalk CZcams videos to diminish Monica's accomplishments just to uplift Graf. He is exactly what Graf once proclaimed as one of her crazy fans.
So sad what happened her. She was amazing.
Great short documentary on Monica!
Love these! Keep 'em comin!
Cheers!
M
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it & thank you for your support.
She could've been better and have won more titles than Steffi Graf.
How that when even as #1 pre-stabbing she usually lost to Steffi?
@@carrerau7138 "usually lost?" She lost to Graf three times in her first year as a professional tennis player, and then she defeated Graf in three out of their four grand slam meetings that they met before the stabbing. How many times do you think Graf defeated Seles in Grand Slam finals before the stabbing?
@@carrerau7138your father gunther parche would say the same thing
@@oliverjuria993 My father died 40 years ago in a car crash.
@@jamesr2164 As #1 Seles lost 60 % of her matches against Steffi.
Sorry, that is a fact.
I read her book n she said that Steffi graff never came to visit her
Really? Wow, that's interesting. Gosh it's ruthless at the top. Thanks for commenting.
Steffi definitely did go to see her in the hospital the morning after the attack. There was heavy tv news coverage of it. I’m not sure how long she stayed or whether Graf contacted/visited her again after that (maybe that’s what Monica meant?), but Graf definitely visited Monica in hospital - that is well-documented.
Steffi should have been banned.
@@cyriljacob4839Still bitter, ***hole? 😂
Seles always had problems with the truth.
She even lied when the truth was easy to verify.
It amazes me that she came back at only 75 or 80 percent of her top form. And was able to compete with all the great players of that era and still managed to beat them on occasion. A 100 percent Seles was still better then all those players when coming back from the stabbing.
Nonsense.
In the first 14 months after her return she was better than ever.
Her problem was that Steffi had regained her normal level and the emergence of Hingis.
No free lunch for her anymore.
From 1997 injuries took their toll.
@@carrerau7138 no she was not better than ever after her return, and everyone but you know that.
@@carrerau7138you sound like the guy that attacked her
WELL DONE! Great job on this video.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it & thank you for your support.
@@forehandfrenzy I enjoyed many aspects of this video, but I think what I enjoyed the most was your perspective on Seles’ greatest legacy: that through her hard work and perseverance, Seles showed us even though life can be unpredictable and challenge us in unexpected ways, we can still work hard and achieve excellence. As a huge Seles fan I sometimes struggle with her stabbing and all the unfairness around it. Your perspective is a brighter vision and I’m glad I encountered it.
She truly was a phenomenal tennis player. Still to this day no one in the Open Era has won as much and as fast as she did from the moment they turned professional until their 20th birthday. Although we will never know now what could have been due to the stabbing, but one thing is for certain we were all robbed of a rivalry with Graf that could have been similar to Evert and Navratilova.
Steffi won more titles, won Wimbledon, won the Golden Slam as teenager.
Had a far, far bigger lead in the WTA rankings than Seles ever had.
@@carrerau7138 Yes she ended up having the better record in the end, but as we all know Seles' momentum was stopped because of the attack. What she had accomplished before the stabbing and before her 20th birthday, was more than any other player in the open era has ever been able to accomplish (even to this day). I think Graf is one of the all-time greats, there is no question about that, but I personally would have loved to have seen what would have become in the end if the stabbing hadn't occurred. Don't you agree?
@@jamesr2164 I think her dad‘s cancer diagnosis in summer 1993 had a bigger impact than this unfortunate stabbing incident.
@@carrerau7138 that is very possible, but the stabbing did occur as you know and it did stop Monica's momentum. Don't you wish the stabbing hadn't occurred so we could have seen what really would have become in the end? Or are you publicly ready to admit that you are glad that the stabbing did happen?
@@jamesr2164 I wish the stabbing had not occurred since then Graf haters would not have any excuses anymore.
She had a natural talent that superseded even that of Serena Williams. An esteemed career cut short.
Even Serena had more natural talent than Seles.
Ignore him. A crazy, immature, petty, psycho Graf fan at it again. Who obviously absolutely hates Monica because of what she accomplished, that the stabbing propelled Graf back into the number one position, and so many fans to this day believe Graf would not have won as much if the stabbing hadn't occurred. Because of that this fuels his fire decades later to stalk CZcams videos to diminish Monica's accomplishments just to uplift Graf. He is exactly what Graf once proclaimed as one of her crazy fans.
Agree. He is a total psychopath. Probably another Gunter Parche!
I fell in love with tennis because of Monica Seles, after her retirement I completely stopped watching it all together
It is beyond me how someone can admire her ugly style of tennis.
Doubled-handed back- AND forehand, always pulling a face during play that reminded of a furious rat, screaming like a stung pig….
She would probably win more than 30 slams
How that! You clown?
Which 21 slams would she have won without that minor stab wound?? 😂😆😄🤣
As #1 player Seles set several records that most probably will stand until eternity:
1) Worst H2H record against any opponent (2-5 against Graf)
2) Worst slam final loss ever (26 16 against Graf, Wimbledon 92)
3) Loss to the youngest player ever (Capriati at age 15 years 128 days, San Diego 91)
4) Loss to the oldest player ever (Navratilova at age 36 years 136 days, Paris 93)
"Worst head to head against any opponent?" What are you talking about?! Here is Graf's petty, immature, and crazy fan at it again. Even though you hate this she is still among the discussion as one of the all time greats, because she had only been on the tour for a couple of years and accomplished so much before the stabbing.
Yes she lost to Navratilova here and there, but Navratilova was still a fierce competitor even at the end of her career, and Steffi lost to Navratilova as well. Yes she lost to Capriati, but Capriati was also a great player. Even Steffi lost to Capriati at the Olympics. Yes, she was not invincible, neither was Steffi, Martina N, Serena, or Evert, but after just a short time on the tour she won Grand Slam after another and was charging a head like no other in the open era.
Still to this day no one has won as fast as much as she did in the open era before her 20th birthday, and her momentum was only stopped because of a crazy psycho fanatic that was so desperate to help Graf get back on top. Kind of like you who go on all of Seles' videos just to try to diminish her accomplishments to lift Graf up.
I'm curious. Don't you also wish the stabbing had never happened so we could have seen what would have really happened in the end, or are you secretly glad that it did happen? Because all I see from you all over these CZcams videos is how much you hate Monica, talk about how ugly you think she was, and try to diminish her accomplishments in any way you can (which is exactly what you just tried to do with this ridiculous comment).
Truly is no surprise that when Graf heard that Monica had been stabbed, she said I sure hope it wasn't one of my crazy fans. And here you are decades later still trying to talk crap about Monica because of your obsession with Steffi. You can't even stand it when someone is just talking about how great Monica was. You have to comment and try to diminish her accomplishments just to try to lift Graf up, because obviously you hate Monica so much and the fact that so many people believe Graf would not have won as much as she did if the stabbing hadn't occurred. But in the end you got what you wanted, just like Gunther. But here you are still decades later saying nasty things about Monica. You are truly a sad individual.
@@jamesr2164Seles is nowhere in any discussion about the greatest ever.
That would an insult to Court, Evert, Navratilova, Steffi, Serena.
We don‘t include Hingis or Henin in GOAT discussions either. Why then Seles?
@@carrerau7138 I'm going by what so many people in the tennis world also believe. Even greats like Billie Jean King, Martina Navratilova, Chris Evert, and fans around the world. She is still considered to be among one of the all-time greats, because even though she would have accomplished so much more if the stabbing hadn't occurred she's still ended her career with 9 Grand Slams, 53 career titles, an Olympic medal, and still to this day in the Open Era only Graf and Serena has been able to win more than 9 grand slams.
This is exactly why you hate Monica so much, because to this day she is still spoken of very fondly of by fans and by those that played the game before, and those that are still playing. Your hatred for her and your love for Steffi, is what fuels your fire to still come here on CZcams decades later to try to lift Graf up and bring Seles down. You are exactly what Graf considers to be one of her crazy fans. Think about that next time you decide to say nasty things about Monica, I guarantee you Graf would not approve of your immature and petty comments.
@@jamesr2164 King, Evert, Navratilova are from….?
Seles has what citizenship?
@@carrerau7138 what country they're from has no bearing on that. Is this where your hatred for America comes from? Because I guarantee you I've talked to people that feel the same way from all around the world, not just from America. But I'm curious what country are you from? Are you proud to say that you are from Germany?
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Steffi should have supported seles. But she didnt so it's clear she secretly enjoyed that stabbing.
Steffi tried several times to reach out to Seles.
It was made clear to her by the Seles family that this was not wanted. Steffi revealed that in an interview some years ago.
Seles then lying about that caused Steffi to lose any respect for Monica. As a Grafan I don‘t have a lot of respect for her either.
Conclusio - you are not necessarily a nice person if you are stabbed.
@@carrerau7138 Oh did you talk to Steffi And and that is what she revealed that she lost her respect for Monica? Is that what she publicly or personally told you? Looks like you are the liar. Smh
@@jamesr2164 I read it in the newspapers.
The worst was that Seles implied in one of her books (she really milked that stabbing!) that Steffi voted against Monica keeping her #1 after the stabbing. Classless!
You are American, right?
@@carrerau7138 I thought so. So you read it in one of the newspapers/ tabloids. So you don't know for a fact that Steffi really said that or feels that way, but you like to pass it off as truth. Yes, I'm from America and I have no reason to not be proud of it. But guess what, I have been a fan of Monica before her change of citizenship. Now let me ask you for the multiple time, what country are you from? Are you proud to say what country you are from?
@@jamesr2164 Germany.
And all this hate towards Steffi and Germany is sad.
Thankfully the USA and Serbia are only a fraction of earth‘s population. And outside of those two countries Steffi is well-respected and generally considered to be the greatest ever.
After all these Years this man can not pronounce Seles right but says Celes !! Wow,
Keep mispronouncing her name.
You can't even learn how to say the name of the subject of the video you are narrating?