American Reacts to AUSTRALIA'S MOST INFAMOUS FUGITIVE - Ned Kelly PART 2

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  • Thank you for watching me, a humble American, react to the legendary NED KELLY! I hope you enjoyed your arvo with me and I hope to see you agian.
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  • @mrgoono9264
    @mrgoono9264 Před 2 lety +92

    I've been a Ned Kelly tour guide for 16 years now. Only got 5 minutes before I'd better do one of those tours. Although this is more accurate than many Ned Kelly documentaries it still has errors so don't take anything as gospel. It was Dan, not Ned, who accompanied the bank manager's wife to church. The £8,000 reward was for the whole gang, not just Ned. The train was flagged down by a school teacher who Ned let go after midnight. The teacher wasn't a sympathiser, Ned just trusted him to "go home but not dream too loudly" because he had informed Ned that another captive was hiding a pistol. Julian Ashton's sketch of Ned in the dock was in Beechworth where they had a committal hearing before his trial in Melbourne. This site will inevitably be invaded by trolls who want to see Ned's story forgotten about because they only believe the police testimony while discarding testimony of those who were sympathisers or family members. I will not be responding to trolls. Do your own research if you want a better understanding. My suggestion is "The Last Outlaw" miniseries.

    • @Reneesillycar74
      @Reneesillycar74 Před 2 lety +10

      Thanks for that ✌🏼

    • @raucousreg9064
      @raucousreg9064 Před 2 lety +7

      I've had a few run-ins with those trolls. You have to love getting piled on because you repeat something one of the family told you more than forty years ago - "No-one in the family agrees with that", "No-one in the family told you that", etc.
      I recently had a chat with an historian who told me some interesting stories about the aftermath of the Breakout and events that transpired some years later which, he claims, were totally covered up - if they occurred they were definitely covered up as I have never heard the story before, but he says there is archival evidence. (I won't elaborate but it is an incredible story (if true.) and would put an end to the trolls!) He has written a book on those later events for which he is still seeking a publisher.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety +1

      Mr Goono I have corrected your promotion of Ned Kelly before where you claim fiction as factual. As you know, The Last Outlaw is a load of fiction throughout and is not factual at all.
      While you keep promoting the myths, fiction and lies, it displays you have a lack of integrity, especially when you have been referred so often to the facts, which you continue to ignore.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@raucousreg9064 Well, let me tell you what a Kelly descendent told me. She said that 250 police were sacked as a result of the Royal Commission into Vic Police held in 1881.
      Only 3 junior police were dismissed as a result of that commission. You should recognise that what the family says is firstly hearsay, and secondly their attitude would always be pro Kelly, rather than pro truth.

    • @mrgoono9264
      @mrgoono9264 Před 2 lety +6

      @@heatherrowles9930 I recommend a tv series that is closest to the facts. I can point out a few inaccuracies but can see which statements the scenes in this series stem from. For instance Mrs Byrne didn't pay the storekeeper Paddy Allen after the Euroa bank robbery but after the Jerilderie bank robbery. Paddy Allen was interviewed by Cookson about the incident. The reason I promote this miniseries is that it was filmed with historians who refused to let the cameras roll until saddles were positioned correctly on horses and everything was as historically accurate as possible.
      As far as Ned Kelly's diaries from the Old Melbourne Gaol are concerned I have never heard of them. I've transcribed court records, helped digitise newspapers, read countless statements and interviews, spent time with the Public Records Office of Victoria and Police Museum but have never heard of any diary. The closest thing would be the Jerilderie and Cameron letters. I will contact the Old Melbourne Gaol to ask about this diary.
      Ned did admit in the end that if his life meant nothing more than to teach the Victorian police that they can drive a good man bad is Ned admitting he had been driven bad. The reforms in the Victorian police force were because they recognised the police force had exacerbated the situation. I'm not saying Kelly was a hero or a villain I'm trying to sit on the fence (gets painful).
      I will not be responding to Mr. Sabastian's ad hominem attacks. Maybe working as a policeman has fed his biased uncorroborated claims.

  • @JayWhy1964
    @JayWhy1964 Před 2 lety +121

    The armour was made by the Kelly Gang with the help of local blacksmiths. It is made of steel from plough shares, leather, iron bolts, in five pieces with separate helmet and visor. Total weight of armour and helmet: 41.4 kg (91 pounds)

    • @mrgoono9264
      @mrgoono9264 Před 2 lety +19

      I had to don a suit of armour to be Joe Byrne for a documentary. The gang were crack shots but I found it was impossible to aim my pistols while wearing the helmet. "See I told you this armour would be the death of us!" Joe yelled to Ned shortly before he was gunned down.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety +3

      @@mrgoono9264 REALLY? Ned Kelly was laying down 150 yards behind the hotel when Joe Byrne was hit by a police bullet inside the hotel at about 5am, where he bled to death.

    • @looking8030
      @looking8030 Před 2 lety +8

      I’ve seen the helmet at the Melbourne museum looked heavy as hell

    • @ingridclare7411
      @ingridclare7411 Před 2 lety +3

      @@samsabastian5560 Oh its 'Mr Intelligent again'.....

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety +9

      @@ingridclare7411 It's nothing to do with intelligence, Ingrid. It's all to do with facts, not fiction that most who comment on this and other sites falsely believe.
      Do you object to someone telling the truth?

  • @mattman810
    @mattman810 Před 2 lety +74

    ned kelly is a hero, he stood firm against oppression and although he died at the end, he won, the royal commission after his death just proved his point

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety +3

      MattMan Can you show us some evidence of the oppression you claim against Ned Kelly? The Royal Commission held in 1881 stated clearly that the police acted with integrity regarding the criminality of Ned Kelly. Your comment is simply, quite wrong.

    • @mattman810
      @mattman810 Před 2 lety +3

      @@samsabastian5560 i fact checked myself and stand corrected.

    • @steelcrown7130
      @steelcrown7130 Před 2 lety +5

      @@mattman810 Excellent. It takes a big-hearted person to accept correction graciously. Good for you.

    • @Nathan-ry3yu
      @Nathan-ry3yu Před 2 lety +1

      Theirs actually two sides of the coin writing in history about Ned kelly. The Victorian police files making out Ned was just a villan and a murderer. Basically the description the person was telling about Ned kelly in this video. And another story writing by people who knew Ned Kelly and whiteness the events.
      Back in the early settlement in Australia. 40.000 Irish convicts was actually Irish captured rebellion against the English. When they arrived in Australia there was hard relations between the Irish and the English. Ned kelly family was target by ruthless ignorant English cops. One that had raped Ned's sister that turned Ned into a cop killer. Victoria Police won't put that in their files though.

    • @grahamy3400
      @grahamy3400 Před 2 lety

      Kelly was a criminal who killed three police officers. Not much of a hero.

  • @Peajay007
    @Peajay007 Před 2 lety +28

    As a Victorian I appreciate what he tried to do. My ancestors were convicts and to this day I see Ned as the one that protected them and rid the corruption in the force.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Penn Smith Can you refer me to the corruption you refer to please? I have read the entire Royal Commission and the word corrupt is not used in the entire document.
      The Royal Commissioners who were almost all anti-police stated clearly that the police acted with integrity regarding Kelly's criminality. So I would be interested for you to show me the corruption you refer to.

    • @janiirosethorn6137
      @janiirosethorn6137 Před 2 lety +1

      @@samsabastian5560 I am reading the comments on these videos and it's obvious a lot of these people have a very tenuous grasp of Australian history. Where do they get this misinformation from? Good on you for pointing some of this out.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@janiirosethorn6137 So True, jannii. Most of the false information that is being repeated here has been promoted and written about by Kelly fans. Facts have been ignored and fiction presented that presents Ned Kelly as some sort of hero standing against alleged oppression of the government and the police. It is all false. Sadly, so many believe this rot. Several new books have come out recently that point out the fiction, but it is difficult to change the minds of the ignorant.
      My book will be targeted at secondary school level, and will be factual. That should, in time, make a huge difference.

    • @lifelonglearner56
      @lifelonglearner56 Před rokem +5

      @@samsabastian5560 Get hold of the biography "Ned Kelly" written by Peter Fitzsimons - written with full reference lists to all documentation and evidence. The level of police corruption and brutality was damning.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      @@lifelonglearner56 Peter FitzSimoins book is a load of fictitious rubbish. The suggestion he made that the police were corrupt was smashed by the Royal Commissioners, who were, incidentally, anti-police. They looked for bad behaviour from the police and found NONE. Read the RC yourself. The word 'corrupt' is not mentioned once in any question, answer or recommendation. FitzSimons wrote a load of rubbish. Ask any professional historian what they think of his book?

  • @hankfacer7098
    @hankfacer7098 Před 2 lety +66

    Ryan you need to check out "The Story of His Head". Even today many people here hold Ned up as a hero. That was no bucket mate, his armour is another story. Ned is up there with the best of your outlaws.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Hank Racer Ned Kelly was no hero. He was just a stand-over- thug and a murdering criminal of the worst kind.

    • @brendonrookes1151
      @brendonrookes1151 Před 2 lety

      what are you talking about his helmet is on display at the melburne museam

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@brendonrookes1151 What I am talking about is TRUTH. Ned Kelly's armour is on display at the Victoria State Library.
      The people of NE Victoria, at the time Ned Kelly was finally removed from society, were delighted that his criminal empire was at last destroyed. He had the entire population in fear of what he would do to them. He had already murdered 3 police officers in cold blood. His thieving ways put many a poor settler into bankruptcy.
      Kelly was a very serious criminal. It is clear your knowledge of this vicious criminal is abysmal.

    • @brendonrookes1151
      @brendonrookes1151 Před 2 lety

      @@samsabastian5560 the kellys never stole off the poor also the police back then were corrupt as any thing

  • @hoorootv1
    @hoorootv1 Před 2 lety +18

    🔹️ Yes, Ned Kelly is still a Hero figure, to this day. SUCH IS LIFE 👀👍❗

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      HOOROO TV2 Only to uneducated people who have no idea.

  • @macman1469
    @macman1469 Před 2 lety +43

    Most of us think Ned was a good bloke in a bad situation. His quote "Ah well I suppose it had had to come to this -SUCH IS LIFE" , is often shortened to just the last 3 words. The bloke wrote his own manifesto ,to help the oppressed lower class. Yes Ned Kelly is a working class HERO.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      macman Most of us? Speak for yourself. Most intelligent people know that Ned Kelly was just a very serious, murdering criminal. Ned Kelly NEVER uttered the words "Such is Life" on the gallows. The only people that think Ned Kelly is a hero are the uneducated, uninformed, and bogans.

    • @solreaver83
      @solreaver83 Před 2 lety +7

      Most is a stretch I'd think. He was a murderer from a criminal family with no respect for human life and was willing to kill a train full of civilians to kill a few troopers.

    • @Kalashboy420
      @Kalashboy420 Před 2 lety +1

      @@solreaver83 tell us how you really feel?

    • @solreaver83
      @solreaver83 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Kalashboy420 statements of fact

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      macman Ned Kelly never uttered the words, such is life, on the gallows. Fictitious nonsense. Ned Kelly did not help lower classes, he robbed from them extensively.
      You have no idea.

  • @wolf1066
    @wolf1066 Před rokem +7

    2:20 - so they basically took the adage "may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb" to heart. "whadda they gonna do, boys? Hang us twice?"
    That is kind of the main problem with death sentences - especially historically, when they'd hang you for horse theft or even-more-trivial thefts. Once someone's done something that's going to get them executed, there's no longer anything to discourage them from committing more/worse crimes.

  • @keshaponso536
    @keshaponso536 Před 2 lety +8

    One of my favourite memories as a kid was going to The Old Melbourne Gaol (Jail) where Ned Kelly's armour and death mask were displayed. I hope kids can still see it somewhere.

    • @mysticalmatt4130
      @mysticalmatt4130 Před rokem

      The armour is now in the nearby State Library of Victoria

  • @briantayler1230
    @briantayler1230 Před 2 lety +24

    The armour was made out of plow shares. It was thick steel and heavy. Firearms were black powder firing slow heavy projectiles and did not have the punch that smokeless rifles would have just fifteen years later. The Bunyip was a monster that lived in water. A story told to small children by tribes from the south to keep them away from the danger of drowning. There were real Bunyips in the north, they were crocodiles, and stories of crocodiles may be the origin of the Bunyip.

  • @BassMatt1972
    @BassMatt1972 Před 2 lety +20

    A fact I only learned recently (and Ive been to Glenrowan etc and stood at the site of the Hotel and on the railway he damaged), Ned Kelly aged 11 saved the life of a 7 year old kid drowning in a creek. His family gave him a green silk sash for his bravery.. The day he was shot down he had that green sash around his waist..
    £2000 in 1880 is approx $286,084.99 United States Dollar today.. His bounty would be approx $15 million today.. a LOT of money.. No problem.. haha
    Black Trackers are indigenous trackers who know the desert etc and can track animals/people.. its the name used in the era..

    • @elizabeth10392
      @elizabeth10392 Před 2 lety +1

      I think the sash was given to him by the local mayor rather than his family. Not positive though 🙂

    • @frenchys_prospecting
      @frenchys_prospecting Před rokem +2

      My mates brother just bought the glenrowan tourist attraction. Lol. He plans on fixing it up even better than it ever was.

    • @laylano909
      @laylano909 Před rokem

      I just found out that when ned was younger a police officer raped his younger sister and got away with it as well and thats why ned hated the police

    • @ajsaces5211
      @ajsaces5211 Před rokem

      For some reason I had in my head it was a red sash not green?

  • @politikilter6446
    @politikilter6446 Před 2 lety +6

    "The hats' chin straps are fastened under their noses in case of attack. In the old days, cavalry soldiers would aim for the head. The placing of the strap also ensures that the hat would come off if hit without breaking our necks."
    - England Queen’s Guard (Wednesday, May 27, 2020)

  • @krissee6961
    @krissee6961 Před rokem +3

    My father's first teaching post was in Jerilderie where he, and later Mum, boarded with an older lady, Mrs Tiffin. Her husband , Squizzy Tiffin, was a young fellow who ran chores and worked at the Jerilderie hotel where Ned and co had Squizzy mind their horses. Squizzy also helped carry the bank record books out to the street to be burnt...so that the banks couldn't chase after the struggling poor people for loans to be paid.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 7 měsíci

      You obviously do not know that there were probably four copies of what was owed by residents to the bank. You need to wake up to reality, sport.

  • @marktaylor3802
    @marktaylor3802 Před 2 lety +10

    We get taught about Ned at school so yes he is an important piece of history not just a bad man.

    • @Kalashboy420
      @Kalashboy420 Před 2 lety

      wasnt even a bad man, he cucked the government and incompetent police force so ofcourse they want you to think he is a bad man lmao

  • @janetmitchell9980
    @janetmitchell9980 Před 2 lety +5

    In The Seekers’ “I Am Australian” that you reacted to recently, there’s a line “I’m Ned Kelly on the run”.

  • @louisekindred0059
    @louisekindred0059 Před 2 lety +40

    " Black Trackers " are the Aborigines. Aboriginal ppl are very in touch with the land being this nations first ppl. Their vast knowledge of the Australian landscape was and still is used as they can look at footprints in dirt, grass, broken branches etc and know if a person or what animal has been through there. Thus why they wanted a black tracker. They see what other's don't. They are even bought in when someone is lost in the middle of nowhere mainly the outback bush. It's an incredible talent and they have saved many a life over the year's where other's have failed. Police still to this day get advice or use them to help solve cases. Ryan a group of aboriginal ppl is called a "mob." ... a group of ppl from a particular place. There's over 250 mobs around Australia with clans. A "clan" refers to family. There's upwards of 7 clans per mob.

    • @desireeg5807
      @desireeg5807 Před rokem +3

      I thought the reason it was mentioned that they bought in Queensland trackers is because the different Aboriginal tribes (do we not say tribe?) had no love lost between each other, so while the VIC/NSW tribes sympathised with the Kelly Gang, and therefore wouldn't cooperate with the police, the QLD tracker didn't really care, and so would?
      Please let me know if I am way off :D thanks

    • @louisekindred0059
      @louisekindred0059 Před rokem +1

      @@desireeg5807 there were 6 trackers that Kelly feared. He had heard of them before via the grapevine. They were bought down from Qld to Vic. These Native Police Queensland trackers were shameless ( if this is the right word ). The Police knew that these native trackers were brutal and had big reputations of tracking down notorious criminals due to their reputations from other cases.They had previously murdered 28 of their own indigenous ppl. They had a "don't care" attitude. Therefore they were thought the best one's to deal with the Kelly gang. Ned had also heard that they might be cannibalised by these trackers so was scared shitless if caught by them. This I'd say is why Victoria wanted these six Qld native trackers.........
      1) they had no fear, were incredible trackers and got the job done and 2) Ned and his gang layed low because they knew these trackers were killer's and they didn't want to be eaten....so they thought ?
      Fact is these six men were lured into helping the Vic Police by being promised a large share of the reward for capturing the Kelly gang. However they never did get compensated. I'm not sure but I think the Aboriginal descendants are still fighting for the men's compensation in the courts still to this day. However seeing there were no wills and discrepancies in paperwork made on who should benefit it's a long winded case. I don't know if it was eventually resolved to be honest.
      It's a fact too that the Aborigines actually hated their own kind helping the 'white' Police. I can only presume that this is why these six were used and not the Vic or NSW trackers 🤷‍♀️ ...maybe someone else might know !

    • @desireeg5807
      @desireeg5807 Před rokem +2

      @@louisekindred0059 thank you so much for this. It's super interesting and I'll probably be looking in to it some more 😁 I appreciate your time and knowledge

    • @louisekindred0059
      @louisekindred0059 Před rokem +1

      @@desireeg5807 You're welcome. When you can get the time to look at our villains in depth.. past the normal info fed to us by previous generations and bullsht artists 🤭 it is quite interesting and somewhat exciting. There's so many twists you find out about. I get engrossed now in our history. You don't just get the goodies vs the baddies... you get the reason's why something happened and all the nitty gritty lies told inbetween 😱...says me who just started my detective work 🙄🧐😂 gl Desiree you'll be both shocked and quite fascinated in the end of most stories ❤... it's like "where Angel's fear to Tread" hahaha

    • @gregoryparnell2775
      @gregoryparnell2775 Před rokem +3

      Legend has it that BlackTrackkers were so good that they could follow a man by his shadow cast on a rock three days prior.

  • @zybch
    @zybch Před 2 lety +10

    I saw his death mask (after death a mould was made of his head and then cast in plaster) at the Old Melbourne Gaol, and it still had a couple of his eyelashes embedded in the casting. It sort of made his last stand more real to me. I dislike how hes been glorified, but his actions did indirectly lead to the dramatic reforms and cleansing the Victorian police force went through not long after Ned was gone. They'd have happened regardless, but it may have taken a lot longer were it not for Kelly shining a light on the whole rotten mess.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Mikey What rotten mess are you referring to? The Royal Commission found that the police in NE Victoria acted with integrity regarding the Kelly's criminal activities.
      Tell us, what reforms were made?

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 7 měsíci

      What rotten mess are you referring to? More police were employed, training was initiated, mounted police were issued with rifles, more police stations were built and wages were improved. I ask again what mess are you referring to?

  • @marktaylor3802
    @marktaylor3802 Před 2 lety +5

    Boxing Day 1906 was the showing of Worlds first ever feature film here in Aus and it was The Story of the Kelly Gang.
    Pieces of it were found a few years back.

  • @sandradeayton1362
    @sandradeayton1362 Před 2 lety +20

    You really need to watch one of the movies on Ned Kelly. I would recommend the one staring Heath Ledger. Although its not truely accurate, it does help to explain why the people felt as they did. Its very enjoyable and in itself, its just a great movie to watch. Also in that movie you hear some of what he wrote in his Jerildirie letter. It shows that he was an intelligent and witty man, the letter is hilarous. There are other movies about Ned, one he was played be Mick Jagger (yes from The Rolling Stones). But for pure entertainment, I would recommend the Heath Ledger one.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Sandra Deayton None of the films about Ned Kelly are accurate. They all follow fictitious rubbish written by Kelly fans.

    • @cherylmccloud8709
      @cherylmccloud8709 Před 2 lety +1

      @Leo it is most likely Ned Kelly did not have "an Australian accent" as we know it today. Although Kelly spent a few years at school? Both his parents were from Ireland & would have had strong brogue Irish accents.1st generation born Australians such as Kelly, were mostly of UK & Irish parents, linguistically it is difficult to imagine the "Aussie accent" has formed itself.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 7 měsíci

      How did the people feel about Ned Kelly. He was loathed, throughout NE Victoria, as many editorials stated in very clear terms.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      Your comment is not true. What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates. Read this and learn.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

  • @tropicaussie4572
    @tropicaussie4572 Před 2 lety +8

    Australia had some very infamous and wild outlaws - Bushrangers . Besides the Kelly gang , there was Ben Hall , Captain Starlight and many others .

  • @galcav
    @galcav Před 2 lety +9

    Hi Ryan, FYI if you were looking for an inflation calculator for the Australian pound conversion, use the calculator version for the UK, Bank of England, as Australia was using British pounds at the time and for 500 pounds in 1880 is just under 42,000 pounds and 8000 pounds 1880 is 671,937 pounds for 2021. Just convert to $US for equivalent. Kevin, Brisbane, Australia (not California)

  • @lukewarm2075
    @lukewarm2075 Před rokem +3

    Ned Kelly is a National Australian Hero we love them,

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Only in the minds of the ignorant. Is that where you fit?

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci +1

      What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates. Read this and learn.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

    • @paulbell4062
      @paulbell4062 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@bradwilliams7212I agree with you mate he was just a criminal

  • @trevorthomas1570
    @trevorthomas1570 Před 2 lety +11

    Ryan, you may find it interesting to know that the first and oldest feature film ever made was made in Australia and was about Ned Kelly. Only a small part of the film has been saved and should be available on CZcams.

    • @riseofasinkingwarrior490
      @riseofasinkingwarrior490 Před 2 lety +3

      Another interesting fact is the government soon introduced a ban on creating films about bushrangers. Which did incredible harm against the rising industry.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@riseofasinkingwarrior490 The government banned the film because it was a load of made up fiction, that claimed the police harassed the Kelly's. The Royal Commission found that was not true. Every film made on Ned Kelly tends to glorify him, when in fact, he was a very serious criminal and stand-over-thug.

  • @markjessop7503
    @markjessop7503 Před 2 lety +3

    Ned Kelly is a bloody legend love his beard

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Mark Jessop Ned Kelly is no legend. He was a very serious murdering criminal, with no redeeming features at all.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates. Read this and learn.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

  • @davexenos9196
    @davexenos9196 Před 2 lety +6

    Ryan they did have newspapers back in the day

  • @fergo7010
    @fergo7010 Před 2 lety +10

    Ned was and is the peoples hero and he is a legend may he RIP

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety +1

      Fergo Ned Kelly was not the people's hero. Where are you getting this fiction from. He was loathed by the decent people in the Greta region, because he was always stealing stock from the decent people that lived there.

    • @xeroknight
      @xeroknight Před rokem

      @@samsabastian5560 I love him, and I always will.
      He fought against the tyrannical government and died honourably for it.
      He sparked change in the entire continent. All that and he was just an Irish working class idiot.
      He will forever be a hero to me and all of Australia

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      @@xeroknight You display an appalling lack of knowledge regarding this vicious, murdering criminal.
      Tyrannical government? You could not present one iota of evidence anywhere that showed the government was tyrannical. I challenge you to present evidence to support your fiction.
      Kelly sparked change, did he? The only things that changed were that more police were employed, they were better trained and better paid. Mounted police were issued with Martini-Henry rifles. You are obviously unaware that 82% of the police in Victoria were of Irish origin.
      Murderers do not quality as heroes, Thomas. You have no idea what you are talking about, and your comments make you look like the fool you are.

    • @jodiecostello6356
      @jodiecostello6356 Před rokem

      @@samsabastian5560 did Ned steel your grand daddy s horse Sam. Oh well got to go . All the best with that opinion of yours and I truly do hope all this love the Australian people do have for Ned really upsets you ✌️😎

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      @@jodiecostello6356 I don't get upset Jodie, but I feel pity for people like you who have been sucked in to believe that Ned Kelly was some sort of hero, when in fact he was a low life, vicious murdering creep, as the facts show. Prove me wrong?

  • @jaredmills06
    @jaredmills06 Před rokem +5

    Ned Kelly is considered by many of my fellow Australians to be a national hero for his actions, and though there was a Royal Commission into the actions that lead to all of this that commission is, perhaps rightly, not well trusted.
    It is also important to remember that the Victorian Police Force was, and remains, one of the most corrupt police forces in the whole country. From illegal business deals, mafia and biker gang connections, and unlawful investigative activity, their force has a very dark history and a shady present.

    • @RedactedRyanTV
      @RedactedRyanTV Před rokem

      The biggest gang in Australia is the Victorian police.

    • @fionaanderson5796
      @fionaanderson5796 Před rokem

      They also refused to investigate allegations of child abuse by the Catholic church in the 1950s-90s, with any officer who tried being forced out.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      Jared Mills Ned Kelly is not considered a national hero by intelligent people. Only dumbo's consider him a hero.

    • @RedactedRyanTV
      @RedactedRyanTV Před rokem

      @@samsabastian5560 Only bootlickers consider him anything but a hero

    • @fionaanderson5796
      @fionaanderson5796 Před rokem +1

      And we see even in these comments how polarised opinions are.
      There is no doubt that his family were discriminated against for being Irish. The police and magistrates were mostly English and had brought their attitudes with them from the old country. This was after the potato famine (caused by the English overlords taking all the food produced and allowing none for the Irish workers) and around the time of the Modest Proposal (that the Irish should eat their babies, solving the problems of starvation and over population in one go). There are allegations of the police deliberately targeting, harassing, and bullying the Kelly family, along with other Irish.
      Iirc Mrs Kelly was charged and convicted for attacking a police officer when a group of off duty police rode out to the Kelly home to gang rape her daughter for "sport".
      There is still mixed opinion as to whether they were domestic terrorists or victims trying to defend their families from corrupt and brutal authorities.
      It's an interesting contrast with the miners at Eureka Stockade who also fought corruption and police harassment. At the time, they were demonised, but are now considered a cornerstone of Australian democracy and freedom.

  • @bct8881
    @bct8881 Před 2 lety +6

    Iron Man Mk1

  • @joefoley6297
    @joefoley6297 Před rokem +3

    Police fired 30,000 shots into the hotel. A pregnant woman escaped at dawn. And was fired at.
    Ned was no angel - but the Police were something else!

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 7 měsíci

      No police fired at any woman leaving Ann Jones Inn. That is fiction made up by pro Kelly authors.

  • @foxjwizard6069
    @foxjwizard6069 Před rokem +1

    I'm related to ned kelly so, nice to see that people still like learning about him :)

  • @revoran4713
    @revoran4713 Před 2 lety +8

    A lot of people considered Ned at the time (and still today) to be a class hero, and a good person thrust into a bad situation. Obviously, that is highly debatable, he clearly did do some horrible evil things.
    However what is also clear is that, back in the 1870s the police were notoriously brutal and corrupt, and the colonial governments were quite oppressive towards poor people, people of Irish heritage such as Ned's family, and especially towards Aboriginals who were being genocided and enslaved in various parts of Australia. There was also a big class imbalance in society between poor people (often of Irish background, or convict background, or both) and the wealthy (usually of well-off English protestant background).

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Revoran Can you show us just once event to show that the police were corrupt? The Royal Commission held in 1881 found that the police acted with integrity regarding Kelly's criminality. I will be interested to see your evidence. Your comment that at the time the locals considered Ned Kelly a class hero. Completely wrong. The majority of the population in NE Victoria loathed the Kelly's and in particular Ned Kelly, as he was stealing from them all of the time, sending many bankrupt. Your comments reflect myths. lies and fiction.

    • @agenttheater5
      @agenttheater5 Před 11 měsíci +1

      which is why it was such a big deal when Ned saved the life of that other boy when they were children - a reasonably well-off English protestant family giving a son of poor Irish catholic convicts a green sash made out of silk....

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 7 měsíci

      Your comment that the police were brutal and corrupt is not true. Did you just make that fiction up, or did you read it in some book by a poor Kelly author.
      The reality was that the police were NOT brutal or corrupt in NE Victoria. I challenge you to present your evidence that the police were brutal or corrupt.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      WRONG. This is what the people thought of Ned Kelly.
      What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates. Read this and learn.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

  • @zombiemeg
    @zombiemeg Před 2 lety +2

    Please do The Emu War!
    Random info: my neighbour makes Ned Kelly helmets as mailboxes. The cut out part for Ned to see through really lends itself well for mail to be put in 😂

  • @markhill3858
    @markhill3858 Před rokem +2

    ned was indeed huge :) he was the undefeated champion bare knuckle boxer in victoria back then :)

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      mark hill But of course you don't know that he challenged a police officer to a fist fight and was beaten to a pulp.

  • @jennimcdonald7115
    @jennimcdonald7115 Před 2 lety +5

    It was called the bush telegraph. Yes word of mouth or local gossip. Lol

    • @jennimcdonald7115
      @jennimcdonald7115 Před 2 lety

      Australia's Robin Hood

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@jennimcdonald7115 Uninformed comment. Ned Kelly NEVER gave anything to the poor, and that often included his own family. Your comment is fictional nonsense.

    • @janemcdonald5372
      @janemcdonald5372 Před rokem

      How did people find out? Newspapers. They had newspapers. Some times 2 editions a day. *rolls eyes*

  • @Vulkus
    @Vulkus Před 2 lety +4

    Thanks for the view. The thing about Ned Kelly in Australia is you can love him or hate him. But you cannot ignore his place in our history. He is not on one of our bank notes now as we speak but who knows. I don't say that because I think he was right but only part of legend of a young country

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Vulkus If you think Ned Kelly was right, you have a lot to learn. Try reading The Kelly Gang Unmasked by Ian MacFarlane. That will put you right.

    • @Vulkus
      @Vulkus Před 2 lety +3

      @@samsabastian5560 Sam I did not say he was right. My point was he is unavoidable in Australian culture. And the comment about the bank notes is important because we have many white colonists who appear on our cash notes. Many, who did not regard the true Australians, the aborigines with any dignity

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@Vulkus Murderers of police will never be on a bank note in Australia.

  • @agenttheater5
    @agenttheater5 Před 11 měsíci +2

    3:31 Also because from what I can tell there were plenty of people in Australia who felt bullied, persecuted and stepped on by the British police, so they seemed to want to believe that here was someone standing up to them at last.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 7 měsíci

      Uninforned comment. 82% of the police in Victoria were IRISH. So tell us, where were the British police?

  • @Bronlynn23
    @Bronlynn23 Před rokem +1

    My daughter who is 6 was learning about Ned Kelly at school. She came home with a cardboard helmet that she wrote “Ned Kelly was a murderer” on it. I was a bit shocked they were showing that to 6yos but we have taught her that he was a bush ranger not a murderer to educate her properly.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      Bronwyn Barber Ned Kelly WAS a murderer. The school was presenting the truth. What sort of a parent are you, hiding the truth from your child. You are a disgrace.

    • @jessbellis9510
      @jessbellis9510 Před 10 měsíci

      What kind of pro-authority "history" are they teaching nowadays?

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 7 měsíci

      Ned Kelly WAS a murderer. The school was teaching her the truth.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      Read this and learn, sport. What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

  • @timbomb374
    @timbomb374 Před rokem

    "Happy Arvo" is the funniest way of saying that.

  • @aaronf1078
    @aaronf1078 Před 2 lety +5

    Black trackers are called that because they are trackers who are black. Pretty self explanatory😂

  • @4kays160
    @4kays160 Před 2 lety +5

    And yes his inch thick helmet and chest and back piece forged from a horse trough was easily bulletproof versus a musket and revolvers..

  • @peterdel3307
    @peterdel3307 Před 2 lety +24

    Ryan I think Ned Kelly was a hero because he always had a belief that the social inequalities of his days should be righted. He became caught up in a series of events over which he had little control, and was misunderstood in many ways 👌

    • @Vespasian705
      @Vespasian705 Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah, I don't think he grasped that a big part of the events that started the whole situation was bullying from this eras equivalent of white collar criminals. Was Ned a good man? No, I think he was a man hardened by circumstance. Was he a hero? I don't think we'll ever really know, since we can never actually meet the man. Is he an important icon for being a 'true blue' Australian? Yes, Ned is one of the great Aussie Battlers, men and women who fight through adversity and hardship of any sort.
      Whatever he was in reality, the legend of the Kelly Gang, however much of it is true or false, is far more important to a shared cultural identity then it is as a historical fact

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@Vespasian705 You really have no idea, do you? Truth needs to be told to the children of this nation, not the fiction, myths and lies that presently dominate what is presented now. Many government departments are removing the myths right now. Even the Ned Kelly Touring Route are having the myths removed. That will show Ned Kelly for what he really was, a very serious murdering criminal.

    • @Vespasian705
      @Vespasian705 Před 2 lety +2

      @@samsabastian5560 You don't understand what a culture is do you? Fiction and myths aren't lies, they're stories that make you more than just a random collection of people who happen to share a geographic locale, without those myths and legends what makes you you, and what justifies your ethical and or morale ideals, how do you explain to someone else who you are or your parents are? Do you not understand that the mythic folk hero Ned Kelly, and the actual real world Ned Kelly aren't really the same person? Do you have the same reaction to say, Robin Hood?
      Actually none of the above really matters, the actual question is why are you so angry?

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@Vespasian705 Truth needs to be told to the children of Australia. Ned Kelly was no better than Ivan Milat.

    • @caylebmladenovic3348
      @caylebmladenovic3348 Před rokem +2

      @@samsabastian5560 never compare Ned to Ivan the police officers are more comparable to Ivan

  • @yvonnejohnson3232
    @yvonnejohnson3232 Před 2 lety +2

    I remember seeing Mick Jagger as Ned Kelly. He had a broad Irish accent. But Ned Kelly was born in Victoria not Ireland.

  • @looking8030
    @looking8030 Před 2 lety +3

    Neds a hero over here many people love him real aussies do anyways

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Jak Kidd Heroes do not murder people, Jak. Ned Kelly was a very serious criminal, end of story.

    • @looking8030
      @looking8030 Před 2 lety +2

      @@samsabastian5560 yeah well some people deserve that and don’t you forget it

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@looking8030 Real Aussies know Ned Kelly was a vicious stand-over-thug and a murdering criminal. Don't you forget that.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      @@looking8030 What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates. Read this and learn.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

  • @Nathan-ry3yu
    @Nathan-ry3yu Před 2 lety +10

    It didn't happen exactly like that as the person explaining in this video about Ned Kelly. You should watch the 2003 movie of Ned kelly, played by Heath ledger. The story about Ned Kelly was more accurate than the story told here.
    What the guy didn't explain was Ned kelly didn't just kill police who went after him. Ned problems arose when an English policeman tried to date his sister. When he was rejected the cop raped Ned's sister. Making Ned kill the cop. Later on Ned Kelly mother was sent to prison
    Their was a problem with relations between the English and the Irish during Australia first settlement. Most of the 40.000 Irish convicts sent to Australia was rebelons against the English they wasn't convicts for stealing a horse or for stealing.
    But this guy poor knowledge of the past is going by police reports about Ned kelly and his farther. The fact was far from the truth the Victorian police had filed and covered up
    Ned kelly life was similar that to Billy the kid in the US.
    This guy telling the story about Ned Kelly is making out as he was just a villan and a cold bloody murderer. To the Victorian police yes he was. To the people who knew Ned and also witnesses of the event he wasn't. Theirs two sides of the coin written in history about Ned kelly life.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Nathan007 Constable Fitzpatrick did not approach Kate Kelly at all. She made up that allegation 10 months after the event. It is fiction. With the surname Fitzpatrick, he was not English. He was Irish.

    • @Nathan-ry3yu
      @Nathan-ry3yu Před 2 lety

      @@samsabastian5560 No record of that

    • @davidheymer2297
      @davidheymer2297 Před 2 lety

      Whatever story you believe, the truth will be somewhere in between.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@davidheymer2297 There is only one truth, and that is not presented in this video at all.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@Nathan-ry3yu nedkelly.info/fitzpatrick.pdf

  • @stevencorlett7972
    @stevencorlett7972 Před 2 lety +2

    Ned Kelly is STILL AN AUSTRALIAN LEGEND fighting the corrupt politicians & police

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Steven Corlett Ned Kelly will never be a legend. He was a very serious criminal. You claim corrupt politicians and police, but you could not provide one iota of evidence showing there was any corruption at all. The Royal Commission found that the police acted properly regarding the Kelly's extensive criminality. Your information is a load of fictitious rot.

    • @stevencorlett7972
      @stevencorlett7972 Před 2 lety

      Well Mr or Mrs uninformed Victorian politicians & police covered each other in their corruption.....even today it's rigged up to cover their corruptness the royal commission is run by government sympathisers who lack conviction & have an insentive to not busy their own.
      THATS A FACT

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates. Read this and learn.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

  • @Shepherds_Pie
    @Shepherds_Pie Před rokem

    loving these!

  • @bhsaproduction
    @bhsaproduction Před rokem

    Ned Kelly’s suit of armour was more than just a head covering. The steel suit included a helmet, chest plate, back plate, shoulder covers and an apron that covered the groin and upper legs. This was almost 97 lb (44 kg) of weight.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armour_of_the_Kelly_gang

  • @mort8143
    @mort8143 Před 2 lety +1

    Kelly's armour was made from old ploughshares. It repelled bullets. I grew up near Tatong in NE Victoria, about 30min drive from the Stringybark tree. Cheers.

  • @charliekezza
    @charliekezza Před rokem +2

    A few of the bushrangers were absolute gentleman, very Robin hood like. Rob from the rich but not the poor and that was part of the reason the bushrangers were liked. Not all of them were so nice and Ned wasn't but that was the feelings of the people at the time

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      Kez C How dumb are you? Ned Kelly, like all criminals, did not care who he robbed from. As there were a great deal of settlers in the Greta area, he concentrated on stealing their only work horses, effectively leaving them bankrupt. You need to wake up to reality, sport.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      What a delusional, stupid comment. Crooks rob from anyone they can.

  • @megancooper859
    @megancooper859 Před 2 lety +9

    Considering back then the majority of low class people were former or second generation convicts, yes police were opressive and hard handed. It was an iron helmet and body armour he was wearing, heavy but stopped bullets. Except for his legs😔

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Megan Cooper The Royal Commission found that the police acted with integrity towards the Kelly's. What you have stated is not true.

    • @megancooper859
      @megancooper859 Před 2 lety +3

      @@samsabastian5560 you mean the 1881 royal commission? The one that lead to a lot of changes to the way Victorian police operated? What I have said stands, the police of the day were oppressive and heavy handed.

    • @Rage_Harder_Then_Relax
      @Rage_Harder_Then_Relax Před 2 lety +2

      @@samsabastian5560 Are you a cop? You keep adding this to all of your not needed replies. He was a hero and will forever be a hero like it or not.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@megancooper859 Can you tell us then what changes were made by police as a result of the commission? If you claim the police were oppressive, can you present us with just one incident that you refer to?

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax NO, I am not a police officer. If you think Ned Kelly was some sort of hero, you have been misled. If you claim he was a hero, please present some evidence to support your view. The people of North East Victoria at the time loathed Kelly and were relieved when the gang was finally finished off at Glenrowan.

  • @TGTB1234
    @TGTB1234 Před rokem

    12:55 When it comes too Ned the "shooting inaccurately!" Is the very move you see in every picture with him in it!
    It's like a sinicher pose a "statement!"
    As one would say!

  • @markhill3858
    @markhill3858 Před rokem +1

    yes .. ned was a BLOODY HERO and always will be down here :)

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      Only to the ignorant, Mark. Is that where you fit?

    • @markhill3858
      @markhill3858 Před 6 měsíci

      @@bradwilliams7212 Afraid so .. my dad helped build sovereign hill so I know something about Oz history .. and Kelly family history. So brand me all the ignorant you like :) it doesnt change history.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      @@markhill3858 History has not changed, BUT the myths, lies and fiction that has been written by pro Kelly authors has done a lot of damage to the TRUE history.
      You would do well to read the true history and learn that what you believe is a load of fictitious rubbish.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      @@markhill3858 What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates. Read this and learn.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

  • @timeless712
    @timeless712 Před 6 měsíci

    Basically Ned is Australia’s Robin Hood, he is a legend

  • @jaykingsun7093
    @jaykingsun7093 Před 2 lety +1

    Ned was an expert marksman. He just could not see very well out of his helmet.

  • @a.m11558
    @a.m11558 Před rokem +2

    There’s a great Heath Ledger movie about Ned Kelly, he plays Ned of course. The scene of Ned’s final stand in that movie is great

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      Sevastopol Except that entire movie is made up fiction.

    • @a.m11558
      @a.m11558 Před rokem

      @@samsabastian5560 The sequence of events is the same. I think you'll find most movies are made up fiction lmao, Troy, Saving Private Ryan, Gladiator, Lawrence of Arabia, Titanic... The list goes on, champ

    • @imperial_crest6809
      @imperial_crest6809 Před rokem

      @@a.m11558 Don't worry, this shithead won't stop trolling. It's better we should gather the people and do a full on troll to this Sam guy till he deletes himself out of existence lol.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      @@a.m11558 The sequence of events in Ned Kelly's life is NOT correct at all. All the movies are distorted rubbish and not one shows his true nature.

    • @a.m11558
      @a.m11558 Před rokem +1

      @@samsabastian5560 Oh, and you would know, of course.

  • @janhegarty5268
    @janhegarty5268 Před 7 měsíci

    Every Irish Australian family has a story that they are related to the Kelly gang. Ned Kelly, Dan Kelly,Joe Hart and Steve Byrne.

  • @jamessmithsaltyarmy5210

    Well done.. You are doing great :) Thank you

  • @stopbunsen
    @stopbunsen Před 2 lety

    When I was a kid I had a picture of Ned Kelly on my bedroom wall lol

  • @7thsealord888
    @7thsealord888 Před 2 lety +1

    It is worth noting that Australian SF author Bertram Chandler wrote a novel called 'Kelly Country', which postulated an alternate Australia that had come about from a successful revolution led by Ned Kelly. The subsequent Australia is an advanced and powerful country under, basically, a hereditary dictatorship of Kelly's descendants.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Bertram Chandler was English, not Australian. He was a Kelly fan and it shows throughout his book of fiction.

    • @7thsealord888
      @7thsealord888 Před 2 lety

      @@samsabastian5560 English-BORN. He had the very good taste of moving to Australia and becoming an Aussie later on.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@7thsealord888 He was 44 before he came to live in Australia.

    • @7thsealord888
      @7thsealord888 Před 2 lety

      @@samsabastian5560 ... And then, like many others, he became an Australian. I'm sorry, I'm unaware of a time limit being in effect here. :)

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@7thsealord888 This author followed the nonsense that Ned Kelly intended to proclaim a republic in NE Victoria. That was made up by Ian Jones, a Kelly fan, and he promoted it widely. It was fiction.

  • @shannonfriedel7101
    @shannonfriedel7101 Před 2 lety +2

    We are Australian, last year when my daughter was 13/14 yr old. She had to do an English assignment on ned kelly. The perimeters where, was he a villan, victim or hero. Her view point was victim. (I thimk) she got an A for her essay

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      shannon friedel Ned Kelly was never a victim. His victims were the people Kelly oppressed. Tell your daughter to read The Kelly Gang Unmasked by Ian MacFarlane. A book that tells the truth.

    • @davidheymer2297
      @davidheymer2297 Před 2 lety +3

      @@samsabastian5560 whether he is victim, villain or hero is a matter of perspective, just like it is today, one persons dictator, is anothers hero.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@davidheymer2297 It's not a matter of perspective at all. It's a matter of facts. There are very few facts displayed in this video at all.

    • @caylebmladenovic3348
      @caylebmladenovic3348 Před rokem +2

      @@samsabastian5560 why do you keep mentioning a book that is known as fiction and highly regarded by most credible historians as completely fabricated

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      @@caylebmladenovic3348 That book is recognised by professional historians as being almost 100% accurate. You could not present any part of that book that contains a semblance of fiction. It is all factual to the letter. I challenge you to present your evidence that the book is in any part fiction.

  • @mozpogson3639
    @mozpogson3639 Před 2 lety +8

    The police of Ned's day were mostly freed prisoners who were unethical. Ned fought against oppression from the king and police and that's why he is considered a hero.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety +1

      Moz Pogson Ned Kelly was NEVER considered a hero at the time he was at the height of his criminal activities. He was loathed throughout North East Victoria.
      Your claim that most of the police were freed prisoners, is not true. 82% of the police were of Irish blood and most were Catholics. Many had been directly recruited from police forces in Ireland. Your information is made up nonsense.

    • @mozpogson3639
      @mozpogson3639 Před 2 lety +1

      @@samsabastian5560 You need to learn how to read carefully Sam. I didn't say Ned was a hero at the time, but with 32,000 people signing a petition to have him released, indicates that he was viewed as a hero then because he he fought corrupt authorities. As for freed prisoners point, you seem correct, though I did learn what I said while either in Glenrowan or Old Melbourne gaol tours. As for your point of being a catholic; so what? That is pointless.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@mozpogson3639 How wrong you are. The petition for clemency is still in possession of Records Victoria and there are about 3-4,000 genuine signatures on that petition.
      In NE Victoria, Kelly was despised, and the population were delighted when he was finally brought down at Glenrowan.
      There was considerable animosity between Protestants and Catholics in the UK. Not so much in Victoria, but it is claimed to be an issue.
      No doubt you were listening to people who promote Ned Kelly as some sort of hero, instead of presenting him as the serious criminal that he was.

    • @mozpogson3639
      @mozpogson3639 Před 2 lety +1

      @@samsabastian5560 Sam you are wrong about your assumption of me. I look at both sides of the argument. It seems you focus on his crimes, of which, some are self defence, but Glenrowan was not self defence. Focus on only 1 side is unbalanced.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@mozpogson3639 Self defence? Where? Ned Kelly never acted in self-defence. If you are claiming self-defence, at Stringybark Creek, you are wrong.
      Ned Kelly murdered both Lonigan and Scanlan without him giving either of them an opportunity to defend themselves or surrender, as the evidence shows.
      The police party had handcuffs to secure their prisoners. You have been conned, sport. Read facts, not fiction in future.

  • @nathanvanduiven5728
    @nathanvanduiven5728 Před rokem

    Ned Kelly got the idea for his armour from the ironclads in the American Civil War.

  • @deanmaynard8256
    @deanmaynard8256 Před 2 lety +4

    The armour was made from plowshares and was VERY thick - and yes Ned was a big man!

    • @aaronf1078
      @aaronf1078 Před 2 lety

      Big in circumstance but deffinately not tall like pictured in the illustration, he was only 5’8”

    • @deanmaynard8256
      @deanmaynard8256 Před 2 lety

      @@aaronf1078 I have read all kinds of heights - from 5'8' to 6' ! but that's not what I meant - I was referring to him having an imposing physique and presence.

    • @mrgoono9264
      @mrgoono9264 Před 2 lety +4

      5' 9" according to his prison record but this was when he was 15/16 years old so he may have had some growing to do. He was said to be 6' tall only when wearing his lariken boots (cuban heals) which are high healed riding boots.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Dean Maynard Ned Kelly's prison record states Kelly was 5' 10" tall. He was not big. Go see his armour in the State Library, Melbourne. It is quite small and would not fit a man 6 feet tall.

  • @briantayler1230
    @briantayler1230 Před 2 lety +2

    The reason that you could not convert the money is that Australian money did not exist before 1901. The five hundred pounds was Pounds Stirling and its value today is $77,000 US.

  • @filipinorutherford7818

    I live in Canberra Australia but my grandparents lived in Melbourne so once or twice a year our family did a road trip down to Melbourne to visit them. One time we drove through Glenrowan the place where the Kelly Gang had their final battle in the armour. There is a giant statue of Ned Kelly in the town. Australian's love putting up giant Bannana's, Merino Sheep, Prawns etc etc for tourism sake. We went into a touristy area and they had sone cool colouring books which also told the story of Ned Kelly which we bought. Me and my two brothers also bought these cool metal key ring replicas of Ned Kelly's pistols which also could fire caps. This 5 caps for each gun where annoying for mum and Dad as we fired them in the car while we drove, not ver loud but annoying all the same. We where like 10, 10 and 6 at the time and we where mesmerised by the story and we coloured in the Ned Kelly scenes in the book as we drove to Melbourne. I was fascinated with the Ned Kelly story for years afterwards and kept the little pistol for years but finally lost it, which annoyed me... it was small. You should look up the Eureka Stockade Rebellion which plays on the story of common folk fighting oppressive authorities.

  • @kennethbell-hn9zv
    @kennethbell-hn9zv Před rokem +1

    Ned was the original Robin Hood.

  • @bennichols1113
    @bennichols1113 Před 2 lety +1

    burning the mortgages was a huge move. This was more politics than just crime.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      Burning the mortgages did what? NOTHING. There were several copies of those mortgages. You are talking BS.

    • @bennichols1113
      @bennichols1113 Před 6 měsíci

      @@bradwilliams7212 whatever tard

  • @kasidypower8777
    @kasidypower8777 Před rokem

    His armour was extremely difficult to move around in and very heavy but it was made frame farm ploughs which made the bullet bounce off

  • @kiasack
    @kiasack Před rokem +1

    I have seen the final battleground and his helmet and also his guns I am from Australia but still it was cool I was like 12 it was almost 4 years ago

  • @MiosPanties
    @MiosPanties Před rokem +1

    That was no bucket. It was solid forged steel. Those 1860s era bullets just bounced off.

  • @greghillier5176
    @greghillier5176 Před 2 lety

    Ned Kelly's Armour is on display in the Victoria State Library.

  • @tileux
    @tileux Před 2 lety +8

    Read the jerildirie letter - its hilarous (and real). Its got some Monty Python level insults against the authorities. You wont find anything like that from any other english speaking outlaw.
    True History of the Kelly Gang is the best book about Kelly. Its a fictionalised version of the story by the great Australian writer, Peter Carey, but its fantastic. They made a movie out of it too and that had very good reviews.
    Unfortunately, the truth is the Kelly gang did commit a number of vicious murders.
    The police did have photographs of Kelly and most of his gang from various prison mug shots they had taken on early arrests. Kelly's beard was a partial disguise against that, since the photographs were from his young years.
    The police also used trackers - who were black. Therefore "black trackers". Watch the movie Sweet Country for more of that. Here in WA first nation peoples hostile to his people helped track Jandamurra aka "Pigeon", who was eventually killed by an Aboriginal trooper.
    Take a look at images of ned kelly's armour - in the museum today - its covered with huge dents from rifle and pistol shots. Would have hurt and been nasty taking those hits.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety +1

      D G The movie made from the book True History of the Kelly Gang was a box office flop. It was appalling and one of the biggest dud pics ever made in Aus.

    • @Rage_Harder_Then_Relax
      @Rage_Harder_Then_Relax Před 2 lety +3

      @@samsabastian5560 I bet you're fun at parties. Then again, you probably aren't ever invited to parties because of your "reactions"Lol.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      @@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax All I ask is that the truth be told about a vicious criminal, instead of the fictitious rubbish that is presented on YT and other places.
      Is that too much to ask, that our children are told the truth?

    • @kbhh1309
      @kbhh1309 Před 2 lety

      @@samsabastian5560 you haven't asked for any truth, you've insulted peoples intelligence, you've been arrogant in your responses that only YOU know the truth, and better than anyone else alive....you my friend are NOT a good person from what i have seen from your trolling

    • @caylebmladenovic3348
      @caylebmladenovic3348 Před rokem +1

      @@samsabastian5560 no your just spreading misinformation about a hero

  • @fukkar4545
    @fukkar4545 Před 2 lety

    You would quickly find a blue in an Australian pub talking about Ned as you have bloke

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety +1

      Heath Porter True, but there are a lot of ignorant people out there, who know nothing.

  • @erinmccabe1984
    @erinmccabe1984 Před 2 lety

    On that list was for this video was one on "The Emu Wars". You need to watch that !!

  • @eliassolomou980
    @eliassolomou980 Před 2 lety +12

    Compared to the actions of the Victorian police both past and present?
    The man was a saint.
    One need only look at how the cops acted during the lockdown

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      The Royal Commission held in 1881 found the police acted properly in dealing with the extensive criminality of the Kelly clan.

    • @eliassolomou980
      @eliassolomou980 Před 6 měsíci

      @@bradwilliams7212 did said commission comment on said police inequities that led to said actions?
      You and I both know the police threw its weight around in nefarious deeds against the community that pushed many to revolt.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      @@eliassolomou980 How wrong you are. The majority of settlers in rural Victoria were very supportive of their local police. Most of the police were recruited directly from Ireland and had families that fitted in well with the community. None of the decent, honest settlers were revolting. It was only the thieving Kelly clan and his associates that were revolting, because they wanted to be left to carry on their thieving ways.
      You have no idea of the situation in NE Victoria, do you?

    • @eliassolomou980
      @eliassolomou980 Před 6 měsíci

      @@bradwilliams7212 try reading the history of the Kelly family and you'll understand instead of generalising. I was in Victoria long enough with army to see how the police there acted towards the public in general. How many times was their leadership publicly forced to apologise? How many times did investigations expose them? Yes it happened in nsw and qld too and that's in modern times, can you imagine 150 years ago with the free hand they had and the lack of systems, training and accountability?

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      @@eliassolomou980 My comments are confined to Victoria police during Ned Kelly's reign of terror. So let's look at the Kelly family.
      John (Red) Kelly was a convicted thief and for his second offence of stealing two pigs in Ireland, and taking them to another town market to sell for money, he was transported for 7 years.
      Ellen Quinn, later Kelly, grew up in an extensive criminal family, who were part of a massive criminal enterprise across NE Victoria. She had criminal convictions and encouraged her son to learn how to rob from none other than Harry Power. Dan Kelly was a little thug who also had convictions as a young teenager. Her last son, James was gaoled on several occasions for horse theft. Most of Ellen's daughters were complicit in the thieving enterprise of their brother Ned Kelly, and their actions were certainly criminal. So let's face it, the Kelly's were well known as a family of criminals, and who were avoided by the decent honest people living in the district.
      By the way, I was also in the army, as an officer.

  • @deanmaynard8256
    @deanmaynard8256 Před 2 lety +3

    the hat strap under the nose was a Greta Mob affectation that they did for photos. Like Home Boys only doing up the top button of the shirt or wearing trousers low

  • @user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q
    @user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q Před 3 měsíci

    Oh that was fun to watch your reaction to this story. As is often the case with folk heroes, facts never get in the way of a good yarn! My great grandfather was on that train that the Kelly Gang was going to attack. At the time Australia was very much divided along sectarian lines: the British protestants and the Irish Catholics.

  • @patriciaannscanlon8355
    @patriciaannscanlon8355 Před rokem +1

    Ned Kelly saying is such is life

  • @liandren
    @liandren Před 2 lety +1

    I have a bust of Ned at home. it was cast from his death mask. you can see eyebrows and the kink in his neck. He's sitting on my mantelpiece wearing a pair of sunnies and an aviators cap. I also have The Wild colonial Boy, Mad Dog Morgan and Captain Moonlight.

  • @johnharris7059
    @johnharris7059 Před 2 lety +1

    The armour was made from plough shares a weighed as much as 85 lbs, not out of buckets as you suggested. He proof shot the armour to prove its strength

  • @wayneclarke1270
    @wayneclarke1270 Před 2 lety

    Ryan Ned was no fool he even had articles printed in main stream newspapers.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Wayne Clarke Ned Kelly was a serious criminal and all the papers reflected that. He was a fool, that is well proven by his vicious acts against the poor settlers he stole from.

  • @marionharris5674
    @marionharris5674 Před 2 lety

    We also had a legend of the Yowie, a bit like your Bigfoot x

  • @_Ducker
    @_Ducker Před rokem +1

    you can visit the hotel in glenworen you can aslo see the railway track they attempted to sabotage. it is really nice and i recomend it for any one. in glenwrowen there is aslo ned kelly themed everthing shops, info centers and even pools. Ned Kelly aslo has a few movies better explaing the event, but in glenwrowen they have live re-inactments wich explains the stuuf that the dont go into full deatail in the movies

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      All things HOLDEN Can you please write in English next time you comment.

    • @maxrussell7364
      @maxrussell7364 Před rokem

      The shoot out took place at the Ann Jones Inn which was destroyed when the police set fire to it to flush the Kelly gang out.It is now just a vacant block of land.

  • @kirk5152
    @kirk5152 Před 2 lety

    A criminal with the last name Kelly. Seems to be hot topic this week. 😂

  • @danielponiatowski7368
    @danielponiatowski7368 Před 2 lety +2

    somone commented on peter lalor, thats a good story, the gold field rebellion. if it helps there were a number of californians fighting with our guys at the stockade. lalor had a massive bounty on his head after the battle but could walk around in public after he recovered from wounds, no one would give him up and woe betide any who thought to.

  • @lindajackson8138
    @lindajackson8138 Před 17 dny

    The police were so bad that every one seen Ned as a hero

  • @markhill3858
    @markhill3858 Před rokem +1

    the coppers had 60 spencer rifles at that gunfight .. a bit slow to reload but they will kill an elephant, they were no joke, the standard british army rifle at the time .. yes neds armour stopped those :) it weighed a LOT

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      mark hill RUBBISH comment. Many of the police had Martini Henry rifles, and several had double barrel shot-guns, as well as their Webley revolvers.

  • @dorothycooper8745
    @dorothycooper8745 Před rokem

    You gotta see about the outlaw ostrich man in South Australia he was sooooo out there literally rode the ostrich with jewel encrusted guns robbing carriages his loot was never found

  • @mysticfakir2029
    @mysticfakir2029 Před rokem

    Australia moved to decimal currency in the 60s, to convert pre-60s pounds to dollars you just needed to use the pre-decimal inflation calculator on the same website

  • @lindajackson8138
    @lindajackson8138 Před 17 dny

    Yes the police was aprecive and even today there are people that see him as a hero

  • @diamondcat08
    @diamondcat08 Před rokem

    Any person who has attended an Australian school has learned about Ned Kelly and painted or drawn a picture of Ned Kelly on his horse at least once 😂

  • @dranzacspartan8002
    @dranzacspartan8002 Před 2 lety +3

    Ned Kelly is a hero mate. He is known for his last words ... "Such is life" (modern day ... WTF).

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      DrANZAC Spartan How wrong you are. Ned Kelly never uttered those words. They were made up by a journalist to embellish his story.

    • @dranzacspartan8002
      @dranzacspartan8002 Před 2 lety +2

      @@samsabastian5560 Sorry ... were you there? It's popular knowledge that Ned Kelly uttered those words ... sited in many journals. You weren't there, neither was I, so give it up mate. You have your indoctrinated opinion, and I have mine. Grab yourself a Coopers, a couple of snags from the Barbie, and just enjoy the views from our Country. Go piss somewhere else.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates. Read this and learn.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

  • @marianjeffrey8684
    @marianjeffrey8684 Před rokem

    At the time in Australian history when Ned Kelly lived, the police were as corrupt as any bushranger. If you visit Victoria go to north east town of Benalla to see the museum where Ned's bloody green sash he wore around his waist is on show and the court house where he was first accused. Then go to Glenrowan to see Ned Kelly's last stand. The town is full of Ned touristy stuff, including an rather strange mechanical re-enactment.
    Incredibly hot and dry place in summer with lovely winters. So great to visit any time of year. Benalla is the place to stop for lunch and great coffee also if you love art, Benalla has the most awesome building artworks. Then go to Melbourne and visit the Old Melbourne Jail, see where Ned was hanged. Ned Kelly a legend.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před rokem

      Marian Jeffery How misinformed are you? The police were NOT corrupt as you claim. If you say they were, show us the evidence to support your statement?
      The Benalla museum has been closed for at least a year. Glenrowan is full of fictitious rubbish that presents a very distorted and false picture of Ned Kelly.
      You need to do a bit more research, as what you are saying is way off course.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      If you claim the police were corrupt, please present your evidence of them being corrupt. I am yet to see anything that fits with your false ravings.

  • @4kays160
    @4kays160 Před 2 lety +2

    A pound back then was called a pound because it was worth 1 pound of silver, 1 pound of silver today is about $500... 2000 pounds is about a million dollars today

  • @lukewarm2075
    @lukewarm2075 Před rokem +1

    8k pounds back then is worth about 1.5 mill Australian today

  • @travisgray8376
    @travisgray8376 Před 2 měsíci

    The armour had 18 bullet marks in it at Victoria museum. It was a helmet n body armour not just a helmet. The armour exist at the Victorian museum.

  • @allangoodger969
    @allangoodger969 Před 2 lety +2

    8,000 pounds is worth AU$1.3 million. You have to remember that the indigenous people had to survive in the bush by hunting animals by following their tracks (tracking). So tracking a human or horse was natural to them.

    • @looking8030
      @looking8030 Před 2 lety

      No it’s not. it’s about $500,000 because £500 in 1880 is worth $15,000 todays money Australian. I think you looked at the American inflation site

    • @looking8030
      @looking8030 Před 2 lety

      @UC_ahYzIfzhKfeyCda5bMAnw the one I seen only from the reserve bank of Australia RBA goes back to early 1901 but I seen another yesterday on his first video that done £500 to roughly $15,000 of todays money when I looked it up and you can do the math of that and also have a look through the first part of this videos and you will see a lot of people commenting saying roughly $15,000 todays money aswell

  • @mathewkelly9968
    @mathewkelly9968 Před 2 lety +8

    Im a Ned fan but if you ask me if he went too far with the first and last shootouts , I have to say yes . Otherwise he wasn't too crazy , and what he had to say about the police and squatters was valid .

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Matthew Kelly, So you are a fan of a murdering criminal who stole numerous horses from poor settlers, effectively sending them bankrupt. Your comments regarding the police, who were mostly of Irish blood is not true.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      What did the people of NE Victoria really think of Ned Kelly and his criminal associates. Read this and learn.
      Go to the place that describes two eyes a nose and a mouth and look for Ned Kelly False Icon and read the first article. Written in 1878. That is what the people REALLY thought of Ned Kelly.

  • @mickanvonfootscraymarket5520

    I was just looking at his armour on display the other day at the State Library. It is awesome to look at, hard to believe it's the deal.
    Ned Kelly was an anti hero - much like say Stone Cold Steve Austin in the 90s.

  • @darneyoung537
    @darneyoung537 Před 2 lety +1

    The country is divided whether he’s a hero or not.

    • @samsabastian5560
      @samsabastian5560 Před 2 lety

      Darne young The facts clearly show he was just a serious criminal.

    • @bradwilliams7212
      @bradwilliams7212 Před 6 měsíci

      REALLY? Only ignorant fools think Ned Kelly is a hero.