Simon Jordan CALLS OUT Ashley Williams For Representing Wales Despite Being Born In England! 👀🔥
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- Wales will host Poland this evening knowing a win will secure their place at Euro 2024. talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan have their say alongside Ashley Williams.
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Englands captain tonight played 3 times for the Rep of Ireland
Yes, but football aside, Rice is English.
Born in England
Raised in England
Lives in England
Has English accent
NEVER lived in Ireland.
Football rules aside, RICE IS ENGLISH.
That is the point.
@@Viewer41who should raheem sterling play for then?
@@ryanbarry34England. Raised here, lives here and is culturally English
@Viewer41 so if thats the point why was Rice playing with the Rep of Ireland
@@dannymac1793wasn’t good enough for England at the time
Scott McTominay , Che Adams and Kieran Tierney weren't born in Scotland. . Ashley Williams is not the only player born in one home nation to play for another home nation.
KT parents isle of man working then came back to scotland
McTominay and Tierney's first choice was Scotland though. I think all four of them are entitled to play for whoever they're eligible for but those two are different to Adams and presumably Williams.
Adams Glaswegian mother @@Support-your-local-team
@@thomasscullion9449 I know he's eligible but he declined Scotland for years and then took a call up just before the Euro's. I have no problem with that btw but I'm just saying it's different to McTominay and Tierney who chose Scotland as their first choice rather than waiting to see what their other options were.
@@Support-your-local-team Scotland was his only option lol
Raheem Sterling is born in Jamaica
No one banged on about this when Sterling scored the winning goals at Euro 2020
Terry butcher was England captain and he was born in Singapore
@@conradblack779 John Barnes was also born in Jamaica
RIP Gary Speed - MOT.
There’s only one Speedo ⚫️⚪️
Wales take all the English players that know they won't get in the England team
There's nothing wrong with that end of the day they're still representing a country..fair play
Simon just needs to shut up sometimes, looked like a right pillock here
He does most days, ironic that he spent a lot of time in Spain because he flip flops a lot with his arguments🤣
WALES ARE OUT. SIMON GONNA BE LAUGHING TOMORROW
@@DEEDUBZ we Welsh are fine about it - wouldn’t of got out the group anyway save ya money instead of going to watch
I'd love Simon Jordan to pick on ex-Welsh international Londoner Vinny Jones
I want to listen to the conversation about the Black English players born in Jamaica, or that female Tennis player who is 'English'
Not to mention irish cricket players , african runners and cyclists
plastic violations all over the sporting world. it should be about where ya born, end of.
@@roathripper no it should be your actual place of origin, both of saka`s parent are Nigerian and has no English relatives he should play for Nigeria, European teams have been nicking African players for ages no wonder African nations never progress and it waters down what it mean to part of said European teams
@@mikedon5205 I've noticed alot of New Zealand, Samoa looking People in the 6 nations too..
@@darrenporter1850 yes all countries do it world getting smaller all the time
Well says Ash..we loved you in a Welsh shirt . You are a legend bro
Dan James born in Hull, Ethan Ampadu born in Exeter, David Brooks born in Warrington, Kieffer Moore born in Torquay, Joe Morrell born in Ipswich , Tom Bradshaw born in Shrewsbury, Brennan Johnson born in Nottingham. Had I been any good at football I would have qualified to play for South Africa through my grandfather, despite never ever been or had no interest in visiting. Your nationality is formed by where you grow up and not some tenuous link to past generations of your family. Saying that I do not blame any of these players wanting international football but please stop it with the proud Welshman line.
You think someone who lives in the country for a decade, captains the national side for most of that time and gets 100 caps, taking the country to major tournaments for the first time in loving memory, isn’t proud of his welsh heritage? Get a grip.
Tom Bradshaw grew up in Tywyn and I saw him play for Aberystwyth when he was a kid.
These conversations are ridiculous, every time english people mock Wales for picking players from other countries they conveniently forget about the jamaicans and canadians representing england. They tried to collect German international Musiala as well only recently. It's a typically english thing to be doing, being xenophobic brexit gammons whenever they can but hypocritically partaking themselves when it suits them.
I'm Welsh, born and bread in Bridgend ...hence the username@@TKGriffiths
It's not about where you are born. It's more about where you grew up. John Barnes was born in Jamaica. Came here when he was about 18. But he wanted to represent England. Players that have an English accent and represent Scotland is weird.
John Barnes had a bloody Jamaican accent! Why is that any different?
@@daviebananas1735 Thats my point. Its not just as simple as where you are born. That's where you play. Or where you have lived. It's more about culture. Which culture has influenced the person. In their family or environment.
Kind of, I grew up in Asia but have Scottish parents so I would only play for Scotland. I wouldn’t play for England even if I had an English grandparent or something
@@Do27gg So. If England came knocking early on and the Scotland team was nowhere near a qualifying. What would you do?
He was raised in West Midlands but pretends to be welsh itonic
To be fair to Ashley Williams, he has a Welsh grandfather, that connection qualifies him whether that rule is liked or not.
it's a farce. it should be about where you're born. reminds me of the English cricket team.
@@roathripperno it should be where you consider yourself from
@@Do27gg😂😂😂😂
@@craigwelch8330 see your reflection again?
@@roathripper Not everyone qualifies for where they are born. Not every country does birthright citizenship.
Raheem Sterling is Jamaican! Erling Haaland was born in Leeds! Lucaz Podolski is Polish and played for Germany as did Miroslav Klose! who was also Polish!!
I absolutely detest the, "magic soil theory", when it comes to nationality.
Your nation isn't simply where you happened to exit your mother!!
100% the nationality of your parents is what counts, that’s your true dna
It's the next best country who will accept you isn't it? 😂
To me where you are born is everything. I have Irish ancestry but am English through and through as I was born here and grew up here. Fair enough if you were born somewhere else on holiday, but you're place of birth and upbringing should be everything.
@OldWolflad you manage to contradict yourself in your final sentence. Is it everything? Or not?
@@liamjohnson7887 it is to me mate
If he is in part ethnically Welsh - and not just born in Wales - then fair enough!
grandparents
So does this logic apply to all the athletes not born in England yet play for the national team?
Yes.
But we have 0.
😛🤦♂️
Sterling was born in Jamaica but moved here at age 2, BEFORE anyone knew he was good at football. He was raised here.
The Welsh are an embarrassment.
They hate the English yet use all our players and our league.
You're Welcome by the way! 😊
Who cares anymore anyway? International selection is a joke these days and has been for a long time already. I could be playing for Poland tonight because I drank Polish beer one time. 😂
thats jokes🤣
😂😂😂😂
Well no you couldn't
@@Neckoya actually I probably could.
Matty Cashski
Simon at his mischievous best,means it though.....If Ashley's got a Welsh grandfather he should've said so....
Williams got 86 caps for Wales, lived in Swansea for over a decade and captained the national team for years.
And isn’t Welsh
@@charliespeary2503hes a quarter welsh. Go tell the 25% of English people who bang on about how their Grandad was Irish they're not Irish and see how well that goes 😂
He is about as Welsh as Ryan Giggs
His parent is literally Welsh.
His surname is also “Williams”.
Giggs is Cardiff born to 2 Welsh parents?
The top two leading English goal scorers of all time (Kane and Rooney) are of direct Irish descent and both qualified to play for Ireland. Same with Maguire, Rice, Grealish, Phillips, and Bellingham. My point is the world is very multicultural now and players frequently are eligible for multiple nations. Ultimately, it’s up to those individuals to make the best choices for themselves in each situation. Nationality, ethnicity, and race are quickly blurring in a way that they haven’t for most of human history. What it means to be English, German, French, etc is quickly changing as migration and multiculturalism literally change the faces of nations. You can either fight it or accept it but it’s happening very quickly.
Japan is not multicultural and beat Germany and Spain 😂😂😂 homogenous single race cohesive power🎉🎉🎉
Clinton Morrison playing for Ireland is the best one ever.
No Sterling playing for England is the best .
It is no great achievement to qualify for the Euros these days. Wales finished third in their group and there will be plenty of other very average teams at the Euros. It was so much better when there was only sixteen teams in the tournament.
You play for the country which is most in your heart. It really doesn't get much simpler than that.
England rugby team?
sure micheal owen is welsh, john barnes is born in jamiaica and lennox lewis is born in canada....just stop talking simon please
Please read back what you typed and find the multiple mistakes you made of the English language
Lennox was born in England- moved to Canada when he was 13.
Before calling anyone out check your facts ,lennox born in London
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Posh lad, Soft lad, proper w⚓
pretty sure 3/4 of the French team are not French, some of the players in Italy are not Italian either, same can be same for the English players. Pick your battles Simon
Theyre born in France and their parents came from French speaking colonies
By that logic most of the England sqaud is not English
If you actually did a quick Google search most french players were born in France...
Yes France is the best african team ;)
@@prakrit8284 Hilarious.
Plenty born outside England have represented England. John Barnes, Owen Hargreaves, Matt Le Tissier, Eric Dier. I'm sure there's more.
Dier was born in England.
Le Tisser was born in English Isles.
Hargreaves is the only player in 30 odd years whom the same logic applies of him not being English.
Meanwhile, the Welsh have like 7 or 8 in every squad! 😂😂
@@Viewer41 ya you're right about Dier, he was raised in Portugal but born in England apparently. John Barnes was definitely born on an entirely different continent though, don't think he has any English blood in him at all. I could be wrong.
@@chriser555Barnes came here as a youngsters
@@footballsoccerx2021 12, not that young
Funny when England win the ashes they never mention wales considering they are called the England and Wales cricket board😂😂
And Englands best player was born in NZ
Go through the england squad simple simon I dare you
Why?
They're ALL BORN AND RAISED in England.....
🫵🤦♂️
Clearly this was just a bit of "banter". Why is the comments section so heated?
Let him speak Simon
ash is a top lad he can for who he wants if he has welsh blood .
Is Simon jordan going to call out Haaland aswell, he was born in Leeds.
Was haaland on the call ?.
Jim: Come on the Welsh! I’m sure you’d echo that Mr Jordan?
Simon: *blank stare* 😂😂😂
Cm on Wales
He's spot on asked him in a cafe in Qatar does he actually care and does he want England to go further and he said yeah 😂
Banter 😂
Will give Jordan 2 but there are many more, neither John Barnes or Terry Butcher were born in England.
the real question is, why did they have to get ashley williams? about as relevant in football as the WSL
His mom is Welsh… he can play for wales
She isn't Welsh, it was only his Grandfather that was Welsh
Why is everyone sugar coating the situation..... He wasnt good enough for england and didnt have the self belief in him self that he ever would be so he looked up his family tree and found out his great uncles next door neighbour had a welsh cat 🤷🏻
Raheem Sterling born in Jamaica. John Barnes was Caribbean.
John Barnes, Raheem Sterling, Michael Owen, Owen Hargreaves, Eric Dier, Terry Butcher, Luther Blisset to name a few that wasn't born in England but played for England........ I bet when his precious Zaha was playing for the England under 21s he wasn't telling him to play for the Ivory Coast
Terry Butcher was born in Singapore because his dad was stationed there with the Royal Navy, Jesus. Do you really think Terry Butcher would have played for Singapore.
@@mart73100 he still has a Singapore birth certificate
@@mart73100ikr it’s a stupid argument
Michael Owen was born in Chester, which last time I looked was in England. Eric Dier? Cheltenham, Also in England. Get your facts right.
we never wanted or needed sterling, hargreaves or dier
George Weah son was born in Europe plays for USA his dad became presidential candidate for Liberia
You got to laugh at the welsh
Spicy
Sorry but loads of irish players are english born . Loads of the Jamaica team was born on the uk . Just cuz your born somewhere dont mean nothing my mom and dad are from Birmingham and i was born in new york america i was 6 months old when we moved back to the uk and i hav never been back toamerica . I AM A BRUMMIE I AM NOT AMERICAN . IT MEANS NOTHING
Agreed I've loads of cousins born in England and if England were playing Ireland tomorrow in any sport you could split their allegiances down the middle.
I guess it's the way you are brought up some family units hold on to their heritage more than others .
There a pic I believe of young Bellingham with a Republic of ireland Jersey
Yeah it’s so stupid, by this logic USA wouldn’t field a team 😂
Congratulations Jim and Simon. 👏🏻. P.S I couldn’t bring myself to put
Simon’s name first. Lmao😂
The shows literally called White & Jordon.
I like Ashley a lot, he seems like a top guy.
Gotta love Simon Jordan, legend
Simon is vicious 😂😂😁👍
He's neither let's be real, where you are born doesn't overlap the decades of family roots inside of us
I wonder what Jordan's opinion is on Lennox Lewis?
The Canadian Jamaican English lennox u mean loool
Lennox was born in England
@@footballsoccerx2021 but represented Canada at the Olympics. Let's not forget Owen Hargreaves. Not that it matters as they both competed within the rules of their sport.
I think the rule is correct there are people all around the world who have been displaced from their honeymoon countries due to violence etc and their children should grandchildren should be able to represent their ancestral homes
Sterling?
English. Money ?????
at least he moved here when he was a young kid John Barnes came here as a pro and played for England.
That’s our currency yeah
@@capio78 He was 12
@@keef1990 he was 2 lol. john barnes was an adult though 18
Don't be so miserable and condescending simon, so what he was born in England, he passed the fifa rules to play for wales, end of. YnwA.
It should be who you are a citizen of. How many people are born somewhere but a citizen somewhere else? But limits so that someone can’t go changing nationality willy nilly. You need to be an actual citizen of that country. But it’s a bit grey for UK citizens because a player can go different ways to who they represent in football.
Despite being born in England, Williams is a proper Welsh name.
This is a similar case to Giggs. Each person feels a different level of attachment towards any certain aspect of their heritage.
My personal opinion is that all the home nations federations should be amalgamated into a uk team.
This will make the chances of "us" winning a major trophy much greater, and also create unity as a nation rather than devolution.
Williams is proper English name to don’t forget
It's funny that if they were good enough to get into England, they would suddenly feel a "deep attachment" to England 😂
@@Adam-zh4hmindeed
My pal was born in Austria whilst his parents were on holiday there, if he was good enough he could technically play for Austria just because an Austrian nurse pulled him out of his mum in Austrian facilities. Doesn't quite make sense if you ask me. It should be where you are raised.
its a circular argument someone could be born across the border in wales to english parents and simon would accept the baby as english,why?because the parents are born in england,but u just said it doesnt matter where your born its down to the parents,but what makes the parents english?they where born in england,but i thought it didnt matter where your born? where your born is both the least and most important thing about someone used as an attack on the individual but a defenfce for the parents
Yeah should just be where you consider you’re from
Wasnt John Barnes born in Jamaica?
National identity and national representation in sport is nuanced. There's no hard and fast rule for what makes someone identify as one nationality over another. Let's not dance around the most obvious thing, which is that if you aren't good enough to play for England, there's a very good chance you will be good enough for the other home nations. Put genuine allegiance to one side; would you rather play twice for one national team or 100 times for a less favoured one, where you can carve out a significant international career. This obviously plays an important role for the likes of Ireland/Scotland/Wales. If Matty Cash was good enough for England, do you think he'd have eventually played for Poland? Course not.
But was out celebrating when England won a one day world Cup with a dub as captain 😅
Boris Johnson was born in New York.
I’m reading lots of comments about players supposedly not being “English”, “French”, “German” etc. What you’re really saying is those players are of African and Turkish ethnic and genetic origin. OK, let’s play that game then. Messi isn’t a South American using that logic. His roots are in Italy. Same for Cavani from Uruguay. Kane, Rooney, and Maguire are all of direct Irish descent. So they aren’t “English” by that logic too. Quite a few of you on here either don’t know the differences between nationality, ethnicity, and race or are just bigots basically saying that only white people can be Europeans.
Should be called Soreman not Simon. The guy is just bitter at this stage.
Like honestly who cares let him represent who ever he wants people are so quick to judge
got to laugh my balls off at wales. I remember ashley williams and the welsh rabble laughing at england losing to iceland. well done poland.
Boris Johnson was born in Turkey...
born in america, turkish grandad
Simon is right
Declan Rice Irish Jack Grealish Irish thats all im saying
Both born in England, with an Irish grandparent, that’s all I’m saying.
It was a joke they played for Ireland in the first place
Rice and Grealish.
Born in England
Raised in England
Live in England
Have an English accent.
NEVER lived in Ireland.
They are not Irish in any way other than eligibility in football rules.
That's the point.
Football rules aside, is the person really Welsh?
Not that i think Simon is Predjadiced ????? But Where was his ex player Wilfred Zaha Born????? and who did he play for International ?????
He play for wales with England being soo wonderful team best on the planet going win everything Ashley would not get picked for the tremendous team that England have ,they win everything for next ten years
Neither was zola bud,emma radicanu,greg rudetzki,
On the other hand, England will pick players not even born in any of the home nations. I can only think of one player who played for Wales who wasn't even born in these islands. Pat Van Den Hauwe. How many have England had? Off the top of my head, we have Terry Butcher, Raheem Sterling, John Barnes, Luther Blissett and Owen Hargreaves (you could argue Matt Le Tissier as well, but I won't). So, the hypocrisy is pretty monumental given the number of English-born players that England have to choose from.
Why would he be representing England or Wales for that matter? He's neither English nor Welsh.
Who is neither English nor Welsh?
Bellingham out too then? 🤣
Raheem Sterling was born in Jamaica to Jamaican parents and moved to England when he was a kid. You won't go there, though.
perhaps Raheem might still get to play internationals if he switches to Jamaica!
And he grew up in England so is Jamaican English. Have you not heard of someone having more than one nationality?
A passport doesn't make you English.@@Do27gg
@@eddiedunn8061 which is not fair
John. Are you that 🤦♂️???
Sterling grew up in England and lived here for 15 years before he started playing professional football.
These English players who represent Wales have NEVER even lived in Wales or have a Welsh accent!
Jwordan wooks siwwy in those gwases 😂
There only 1 Ashley Williams born n bred in the heart of Wales 🏴 Yma O hyd ❤
Born n bred in Wolverhampton actually.
@@thomasoflaherty3520 I know where I was born mate 👍
@@ashleywilliams2561 Not Wales then is it mate.
Simon this was legal since the 70's m8. What a clickbait platform
Simon Jordan ignorant as always
86 caps, he would have got 0 for England, why shouldn't he play for them?
He won't get in the England squad so he's gone with plan B like so many players before him.
It's nothing new, Matty cash is English but he plays for Poland because he won't get in the England squad with the options we have.
Ashley Williams grew up wanting to play for England. He even put it in his book. Should never have been made captain of Wales.
No one get to decide where they were born or grew up, he could have played for Jamaica, Wales or neither and said, i want to play for England, Simon has an issue with FIFA ediblibity rules.
I honestly think you should represent the country you was born full stop. No wiggle room for picking and choosing. But it’s way to political for that now as seen in the comment section. And I don’t care if that means certain players would have to leave the England team if they weren’t born in England. Your born where you are born whether you like it or not. That’s life
Henderson Has captined a team to the champions league final, the premier league, fa cup and league cup, more respect needs to be put on his name, 95% of peoples issues is the whole saudi thing, which is nonsense
lol Tony Cascarino played for Rep of Ireland with no connection to it whatsoever was refused an Irish passport even though he’d played 3 times for them
Completely different unique situation
OH DEAR, WALES.
Promises of assimilation + cheap air travel. Nations dont mean anything anymore all across the west....
My respect to all the countries proud of their culture
Terry Butcher,Mister England
I think you should only be able to play for the country you are born in. Sterling is a prime example. You can still be proud of the country you live in, but if you are born in a particular country then you can only play for that country. It is not rocket science. You shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose just to play international football.
So if you were born on holiday you’re stuck with that country? 😂
If we gave all the England players a DNA test then most of them wouldn’t be eligible to play for England. Times have changed and Simon needs to get over it.
You’ve missed the point completely… Simon is saying wherever you’re born and grow up is who you should represent nationally. Nothing to do with genetics
DNA and Nationality are separate. If going strictly by DNA then we'd it's a high probability that the royals would show up more German DNA and the Welsh would actually show up as English as it was their land before the Germanic invasion. (Food for thought huh)
We are NOT talking about eligibility.🫵🤦♂️
We're talking about players born in England, raised in England, living in England with English accents who have NEVER lived in Wales!
The only England player that applies to in the last 30 years or so is Hargreaves.
Matty Cash, the most english name i've ever heard, plays for Poland. lol
Thats an Irish traveller name
@@bigjohn1236 I stand corrected! thank you :)
Has Jordan been asleep during the last 40 years of international football? 😂
Yes John Aldridge and Mark Lawrenson play for Rep of Ireland.
@@TheSt1092 The list is endless, Jordan was being a bit disingenuous I think!
Love it Simon😂 half the wales and scotland squad is English
Why are people taking what Simon's said so serious? They were just having a idle conversation like most men.
CTRL+F "fair" in the comment section
If a pregnant welsh lady goes into labour over the border, has the baby and goes back home to Wales. The baby grows up entirely in Wales - this doesn't make the baby English lol
No. But it does allow him/her to play for England should they choose to do so. And either way the child gets a BRITISH passport.
Tell that to the French