Thurifer Tutorial for Altar Servers
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2012
- This video tutorial demonstrates how a server functions as Thurifer during the Holy Eucharistic Sacrifice of the Mass ( Ordinary Form ). Copyright 2012 - Cesar D. Ruiz, The Guild of Saint Tarcisius.
For Gospel procession see
• Gospel Procession Tuto...
There are a lot of negative comments on all of these videos. As a server for nearly 15 years, I have never found videos that are as helpful, professional or as insightful as these. I am grateful for the knowledge you guys have shared. Your clear reverence is also a comfort, as this seems to be a common gap amongst many altar servers. We need to realise that we are assisting the priest in bringing Christ closer to the people. This is an honour higher than any other. Thank you to those who made these videos possible and to The Guild of St Tarcisius. A blessed feast day to all altar servers.
David Midgley first served 68 yrs ago and i would still have negative comments even though i think its very helpful. today no need for servers following priest for incensing...still serving at 75. and involving more young servers
Hi Hugh, it is key to be constructive in our comments. Also, this should be a pathway to the priesthood. We need to show the young men that once they complete their service, that there is a next step ie acolyte etc
i spent 5 years in the Sem early 50s we were taught well. I get annoyed today when i see servers there for as i see it the show a good server never attracts attention to himself in fact he should hardly be noticed FR Brian Nicholson of the middlesborough diocese used to glide round the altar as if on wheels but never drew attention to himself. i came from a parish which had a great calling to vocations ST ALBANS DENABY MAIN HALLAM
@@Hugodavey1 75 years! AWESOME! God bless you.
Thank you for taking the time to make this tutorial. I pray more people are called to serve in His name. Peace be with you.
wonderful video. Thank you for the clear instructions.
Very helpful. I need to serve tomorrow for Easter mass!
What an excellent video. I appreciate the pace, which gives a change for adequate observation and analysis of the responsibility of the turipher. I have a question: the video portion of incensing the Gospel does no show if the turipher remains next to the ambo during the reading of the Gospel. Could you clarify what is correct for the turipher, to leave the sanctuary or to remain on the said of the ambo while the Gospel is read?
Also, another question: the incensing during the. consecration of the Body and Blood of Christ, is the turipher to stand up while swinging the turible or is he to incense while kneeling down?
+Isolda M Quintero , the Thurifer remains at the ambo. Also he incenses the Blessed Sacrament while kneeling.
+Cesar Ruiz thank you.
Thank you for the instructions because I am very confused and I'm gonna practice on serving tomorrow
This means that a lay server can put incense into the thurible after Sanctus, if I have understood correctly? I have always wondered if I should go to the priest to have him place some insence while Sanctus is sung, or if I should put it myself.
Thanks! One of the dads at my parish has been trying to get me to lift the thurible chain like the MC does in the video for ages, and now I have seen it.
Also, I think the priest's swings are interesting. He clinks the chain every time at the entrance, but not at the Offertory...the 2nd is much more in the trad. Dominican style.
This makes me wanna
do that. That's sooooo
cool!
Thanks for showing me am grateful
Very good; very helpful, but what about the Gospel?
Thanks, really well-done.
Excellent.
Ok, this is perfect, very good.
¿What Rite is this?
In girm it says that 3 swings at the altar.
oh ok so it is roman awesome, have you ever done a video with byzantine rites? if not its really cool you should try it
Oh! I was training yesterday to be Thurifer in the Holy Eucharist. It is very hard for beginner's.
It’s case of doing the job well with reverence and not drawing attention to yourself, good luck 🙏
Tq so much
How many swings of the thurible during the Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament?
Incensation during the elevation of the Blessed Sacrament at Consecration may be done with these 2 options:
1. 3 swings ( with 5 second of paces); or
2. 3 times of 3 swings ( with 5 seconds of paces after a one 3 swings).
Lean Michael Alvarez
What is the specific background music here?
David Rapp Gregorian chant: Vidi Aquam (in temporum Paschalis), Sanctus VIII from Mass VIII "De Angelis", and the Annuntiamus Domini from the Ordinary Form's Memorial Acclaimation.
Which church is this, and where is it? Beautiful!
This is my church, Sainte Marie, a French parish in Manchester, NH
Christine Czyryca That makes sense. The French Catholics are well known for making beautiful things, especially churches and liturgical items.
Jonathan George the main altar has no nails in it! And there is a crawl space that's under it and runs to the back of the church! 4 balconies too. One on each side overlooking the front part of the church and 2 in the back on atop the other.when the men's gregorian chant group sing they use one of the side balconies. The choir uses the top one in the back
Greetings from France :)
We do need to update this video to have the rubrics better align with tradition. Allow me to focus on the rubrics that follow the Offertory Incensation of the Altar. Part of the problem is that in 2012, we held to the possibility that the Thurifer might be female. It would have been most inappropriate for a female Thurifer to incense the Priest. Since then we have made this assignment strictly for boys.
Therefore the following are the updated rubrics, which will be present in the Second Edition of the Server Manual:
The rubrics below are the traditional rubrics of the Roman Rite. However, at any point after being incensed, Deacon may request the thurible back. If so, hand it to him, and he will finish the incensations.
If a Deacon is present:
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Deacon incenses the Priest with three double swings
Deacon incenses the other Deacon at the Altar with two double swings
Deacon incenses other clerics in the sanctuary with two double swingsDeacon gives thurible to Thurifer
Thurifer incenses Deacon with two double swings
Thurifer incenses MC and Missal Assistant with one double swing each
Thurifer incenses Altar Server One and Two with one double swing each
Thurifer incenses group(s) of servers with three double swings - center, his left, his right
Thurifer incenses group(s) of faithful with three double or single swings - center, his left, his right.
If NO Deacon is present (or if he delegates the function):
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MC incenses the Priest with three double swings
MC incenses any Deacons at the Altar with two double swings
MC incenses other clerics in the sanctuary with two double swings
MC gives thurible to Thurifer
Thurifer incenses MC and Missal Assistant with one double swing each
Thurifer incenses Altar Server One and Two with one double swing each
Thurifer incenses group(s) of servers with three double swings - center, his left, his right
Thurifer incenses group(s) of faithful with three double or single swings - center, his left, his right.
"...the Priest, because of his sacred ministry, and the people, by reason of their baptismal dignity, may be incensed by the Deacon or by another minister." GIRM, paragraph 75
thanks
agreed.....still serving after 66 years
I hope to serve 66 years. God bless you!
im assuming it would be latin or roman but it also could be benedictin or byzantine as they are very similiar
There are definitely a few errors here. Setting aside how painfully slowly and gently the thurible is being swung (which I assume is for illustrative purposes only), the method of swinging is incorrect. The deacon or MC (if present) should cense the celebrant (and bishop, if present), but the thurifer (NOT the deacon/MC) should cense everyone else, including the deacon/MC. When censing a group of three or more, as with the group of servers pictured here, they should be incensed with three swings: center, left, right. When censing individuals, the number of swings they receive depends upon their orders and function in the mass. Bishop gets three doubles, celebrant gets three doubles (unless a bishop is present, then only two), etc.
Hello speaks3703. Yes, we do need to update this video to conform with tradition better. Part of the problem is that at the time we made this, we were running under the assumption that the Thurifer might be female, and it would have been most inappropriate for her to incense the Priest. Since then we have made this assignment strictly for boys.
Oi meu nome e Jorge eu sou coroinha e quero aprender como usar o turibulo
The MC/deacon shouldn't place the chalice on the corporal because the priest-celebrant enjoys the right of placing at the Barukah. To place the chalice inappropriately removes this right.
That case is acceptable, but it doesn't meet the priest's aim. When the chalice is prematurely placed on the corporal, he now has to move the chalice from the corporal to the edge of the altar (as seen in the video), then replace it after the blessing of the gifts. The best case is to simply place the chalice next to the corporal or in front of the deacon, then allow the celebrant to place it on the corporal. This achieves both aims of avoiding presumption and creating efficiency of movement.
It is good
You forgot about the Gospel.
Our Gospel Candlebearer tutorial covers incensation during the Gospel procession.
Saint Tarcisius czcams.com/video/fAlXS6Sy0m8/video.html
it could be Benedictine also or byzantine it looks very much like this there are just small changes but are both in line with vatican
It is - the sign of the cross commemorates the Blessed Trinity and the two extended fingers for the Divinity of Christ - Truly God and Truly Man.
Well, i meant that this rite is not roman, or latin (which is the official name) because of this:
- No Incensations
- Weird Liturgical Elements
- No Deacon
- Communion on the Hand
Etc
yes I have heard of those, there are manay miracles, I do not know why you feel the need to bring these up but...
Why is there no "incensing the gospel"
The Gospel procession choreography is in our Bookbearer tutorial. It really does need to be part of this video.
They called the Priest, the Priest placed the Host on water, so it could dissolve, but then, 6 days after, he saw that this same Host, had red stains, they inform Cardinal Bergoglio, he calls a Dr, so the lab works showed, it was muscle of the heart. The Host was still palpitating, so they took it with a Dr. he analized the Host, and showed this heart was so damaged, the MAN with this heart was torturated! He did not know it was a Host!
Jorge, you must be watching a different video. This is a Thurifer tutorial for serving the Roman Rite (Ordinary Form). I should know because I directed and produced this video. ... And no one receives Holy Communion in this video. Please comment on the actual video. Do not hijack this thread with discussion of liturgical abuses, or I will delete your comments.
actually there does not always have to be a deacon! and everybody can receive on the hand, the tongue is preferable but receiving on the hand is not condemned by any means. both byzantine and latin look very similar and have the same elements, as byzantine latin and others are both in line with the Vatican and the pope the mass is very similar.
O roquete deles é bem pequeno
It seems that for purposes of illustration, someone forgot to place HOT COALS in the Thurible before adding incense into it. NO HOLY SMOKE!
Perfect!
Here in the Philippines we don't hold the priest we help him
They are helping the priest
so cute
Ok so this
is different than my
the one that I use
But I have one like
that
here in the philippines we dont hold the surplace of a priest
+luis emata it's a chasuble not a surplice the surplice is wornon top of the cassock
This is for serving the Roman rite.
Je suis servant de messe
Yann Diomande très bien, en l'forme ordinaire ou l'forme extraordinaire?????
I thought this video was quite good. Now, time for a small amount of nit picking. I do not know if there are rubrics in the Ordinary Form, but in the Extraordinary form, when people are incensed, the priest gets 3 double swings, while deacons get 2 double swings, and the people get three single swings. In this video, everyone got 3 double swings. Nit picky enough for you?
The Disco Stu That's the same thing I was trying to figure out.
They should stop using insense cause its bad to breeth smoke and then you have to breeth it for a whole hour.
haywood jeblome Nothing in the Mass should be about human comfort...
haywood jeblome not all kinds of incense have bad effects.
Novus Ordo.
I think they must do away with the altar servers holding the chasuble. Besides looking silly, it tends to encumber the celebrant.
You spelt cucumber wrong i hope you know.
No. It has a special significance to for holding it. It is completely appropriate and respectful
Siamo Con Calvi
que cachorro lindo pagamos de 2k
The way to bless isn't with 2 fingers...
Jorge De Pavía Obregón you can do so yes, it’s rather the Dominican style.
The MC Incenses the Celebrant. The Thurifer Censes everyone else. Why would the MC Incense the Congregation? I thought GIRM said that the Deacon Incenses the Congregation if he is there.
If the Thurifer doesn't Incense anyone, then there is no initial point for him. The NO compared to the TLM barely has any point of the Thurifer.
where is this chalice with pagan images? anyways it is possible to receive on the hand, otherwise Vatican would have made a statement which there is none!
So sad...the parish has a high altar designed for a Tridentine Mass and probably don't use it. God willing one day the Tridentine Mass will be the normal again and those horrible Protestant vestments gone forever!! Very beautiful parish!!
Yes, we do use all the altars, actually
While I do agree with you that the Tridentine Mass is beautiful and I prefer it, i don't understand what you man by protestant Vestments. If you're referring to the servers, they re in traditional cassock and cotta. If you are referring to the priest, his vestments are gothic inspired and mimic the vestments worn at mass before cassocks were popular.
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Ooooooo so this is burning incense to baal
ZACHARYAHU BEN YAH
My friend in Christ
Your statement sounds that you have no clue about the Roman Catholic, so please look into it properly before giving such ignorant comments
Viva Christopher Rey!
@@fadiabdallah688 you must be Catholic this message wasn't for you then continue burning your incense
Abominación es a Dios , el incienso Isaias 1 : 13 : 14 .-
handed the thurible the wrong way.
Servizio che non mi convince per niente, troppi passaggi inutili. E poi non mi risulta che i ministranti vengano incensati! Gli inchini però sono di buon livello!
Practice more how to swing properly the thurible, the thurifer while swaying the thurible he is mentally absent. Come to me and I will teach properly with energetic practice