Speed 400 Vs Hness 350 Vs Dominar 400 Vs Hunter 350 Vs Classic 350 Vs CB300R Vs Duke 390 - Strell
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- Speed 400 Vs Hness 350 Vs Dominar 400 Vs Hunter 350 Vs Classic 350 Vs CB300R Vs Duke 390 - Strell
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Thats exactly what im saying. The hd and re are more of a competitor to each other. The triumph isnt even a consideration, its a completly different category. Most people thinking that its competing with the RE and Hero Harley because they all have round headlights but its actually a competitor to the street sports motorcycles by how it performs.
Every motorcycle is a competitor to the other in our country because most of us are single motorcycle owners.
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This is the main reason why I watch “The Strell” videos. It’s totally unbiased and very informative. Thanks bruh!
Glad to hear it
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U said same thing what shumi(motorinc) has said in his podcast. Speed 400 is a good bike but lacks character. It sit between two extremes, doesn't has low end of classic 350 neither explosive top end of duke 390 . And vibrations are also there.
Yes its not that great..people are just expecting too much from it..Its just a balanced bike..and irritating vibes are there and I don't think it will be that enjoyable..for a short term maybe but not for long term..
Classic 350 has a max torque of 27Nm @195Kg. 400 has 37 Nm at 176Kg. Are you telling me classic 350 has a better low end perf than triumph?
@@iamrobot396Keep your specs aside & ride it first. Then come & talk
@@thewonderer9551 Lol i own a classic 350. RE Fanbois are next level like Thanos bending reality and physics
@@iamrobot396 🤪🤪🤪 Yeh saala tum toh humko down de diya bro
i am upgrading from rx135 to the speed 400. so am set for another atleast 3-4 years😂. so for people coming from this lower cc brackets, speed is definitely spot on at this price
THERE IS NO UPGRADATION FROM THAT BIKE-THAT BIKE IS A LEGEND
Bro that is a legendary bike. Can't compare to other bikes
Please don't compare anything with Rx135. Don't disrespect the legend 🙏
Me too, upgrading from my dad's RX100 to the Highness CB350. Will keep the RX100 still running.
I am happy with my first bike ie. The Triumph Speed 400. I have test ridden all the bikes you have mentioned in the video and your thoughts were spot on, but for a short rider 5'4 like me i was more comfortable ridding the speed around.
VERY FEW PEOPLE HAVE THIS KIND OF PREFECT THINKING ABILITIES..😊😊😊. True, Honda CB350 is a gem of the machine
Thanks so much Strell❤
This one video gave the answer that whole of India is looking for currently in the biking community.
Trust me You can cruise on cb350 at full throttle with no vibration
And that too with amazing mileage
Really not even at 100 ? This speed 400 has vibration from 100..then why the hype.. If cruising is main, vibration will definitely create fatigue..lets see Scrambler 400 from triumph.. If that also come with same sprocket settings then there also we will see same problem I guess
Finally finally someone said it despite all that triumph hype.
It is not a hype
I own cb350 rs and the top end is a easy 130kmph. Pushing it for long 140kmph is also achievable
My opinion is that the greatest fatigue factor of long rides is vibrations from the bike. A lot of bikes are capable of great acceleration and great top end, but the vibes start around 80 to 100 for sure. Cruising at 120 and above is not easy even now on Indian roads. Can do short bursts but not continuously. Needs a lot of concentration and alertness, again classic causes of fatigue. 90 to 110 cruise with 120 now and then is great speed for long rides. Fuel economy and range may not be a factor for all but we all silently appreciate a good mileage per litre, especially long rides. So if you want decent city torque and nimbleness, a large tank capacity, one of the smoothest engines, cruising speeds of 90 to 110 with capacity to go beyond now and then, a 40kmpl average and range of 500+km per tank, there's no competetion for Honda cb350.
Very true boss
You killed it.. the format of content was spot on ❤
I'm one of CB350 owners who asked for a comparison after your July 7 video. Apart from the lack of vibrations, one more benefit of the CB350 is the mileage. I keep it between 80-90kph during touring, get 40+kmpl consistently, get 550km range easily from the 15L tank.
I agree to your deliberation on the point - why upgrade at all? Well, for me the choice is the Scrambler 400 ... mostly for it's off-road capability (which we're yet to see) and power for highways. My riding partner has a 390 adv and the benefits of longer suspensions and power is evident when I ride the CB with him. Recently the fuel pump on my Honda also failed (seems like a known issue) at 20K km - which I didn't expect from a Honda, but was replaced free of cost - but now my faith in Honda (-India) is a bit shaken.
Isnt 350cc enough for highways? 350 to 400cc doesnt seem like a huge bump right?
@@campeador94 in theory, yes.
However, my Honda CB350 is air-cooled, low-compression and thus makes a lot less power than it should. The bike is incredibly calm, smooth and fuel-efficient (90mpg), but there are times I wish for more power.
Excellent comparison video... how does it compare to an interceptor 650,can it be a 2nd bike for city commutes, and which one would you prefer Classic 350 or Speed 400 for city commutes.
Hey Strell, I am following you since years, you never disappoint! 👍👍
How bad are the vibrations?
Is it not meant for longer durations of highway touring? What is the comfortable cruising speed on highway?
For someone who's 70% riding is in mountains, how is this bike? And what would be the top options for a new purchase from the bikes you mentioned in the video?
I recommend New RE classic 350 or Hunter 350 or meteor 350. Yes these bikes may not be comfortable after 90kmph on highways, but low end torque and mid range performance on ghat roads are superb.
If you buy honda cb350 you need to downshift frequently. Rest its a beautiful machine.
Speed 400 is very good to go, but service costs and spears would be very high.
Please do a review of Honda cb350 RS and how it compares to competition , I am thinking of buying it.
What about Harley Davidson 440x?
That have a character, can we consider at the place of classic 350 or Honda CB350 ?
Strelk , We need a detailed ride comparison between speed 400 and cb350, like suspension, comfort, practicality etc .
The speed 400's low end torque is not as bad as you describe, infact, you will get around 30nm of torque right from 3000rpm, all the way to 8000rpm, which is the peak torque of the Honda H'ness.
Hmmm but long stroke cb350 starts building usable torque from way below. So the ride feel and engine sound is super smooth and umm elegant. Speed 400 is wayy faster and capable but needs to be kept on the boil.
@@NoiseFilteredSoundWorks maybe from idlee to 2000 rpm from 2000-2500 rpm they start to generate similar torque level up to 3000 rpm around above this its game over for honda 👌🏻 especially if you consider that speed 400 is 10-15 kg lighter 👌🏻 in terms of max performance thers mismatch speed hit 100 2 times faster 👌🏻 cb is good for city and short straights at longer trip it have to limited performance for comfortable defeat biger straights on highway u lesss ypu like ride 100 🐌km/h 2 hours than whatever for me it is to slow ,but engine characteristic is very good 👌🏻
@@mociczyczki absolutely agreed. Cb is phenomenal in city / on state highways and is able to keep up with duke 390. ( depends upon the rider as well). But in terms of outright performance 400 will blast through cb or any long stroke motor with lower power figures. Also with smaller front wheel 400 should be way more flickable. But like you said, the initial torque build up of cb is thicker. So getting off the signal or from a stand still is achieved with a lot of grace. The increased weight and overall dynamics keeps it stable in cross winds on 100kmph touring speeds. The cb loses steam though after 125 and there is no point pushing the bike further. I might have to pick up an inline 3 or inline 4 in a few years for crazy top end blast. :D
Classic 350 it is , took the decision after watching Shumi from @motorinc and now you confirmed the same.😊
In your Speed 400 video you had told that it has a tractable motor that it can pull at low speeds on higher gears and even other reviewers said and demonstrated the same. And now you say that it doesn't have enough torque. in your top speed test you said it goes 165-170 and now you say it doesn't have a top end. the bike wasn't even serviced or anything and still went 170 which is in the duke's range. I am a bit confused here with this video, it's like you are not in total agreement with your initial review / impressions
I think he talked about the lower top end with respect to Dominar 400!
Bhai should I go for Honda CB 350 highness or speed . I would be using it for daily travel or office travel . Once in a blue moon touring. So what I should I buy for the longer run let’s say for next 5 - 7 years
Absolutely bang on
Still cb350 makes sensible choice... people dont buy honda bikes when they are available and when they discontinue like cbr250r people keep waiting lol
Loved it. Audiences can connect to what you conveyed.
Full Respect to your verdict. Very matured straight to point ..good one chaeta
This was about upgrading. What if someone wants to buy their first motorcycle? Will you still recommend others?
Although it doesn't make sense but still should I buy the triumph speed 400 or add some more money and get the interceptor the speed 400 on road price is 2.90 and 650 at 3.70-80 what should one do ? Considering as a new motorcycle (first bike)
Simple answer for people who are considering these bikes including speed..should think like if they have bike like classic or cb350 would they be thinking to switch to speed and also the other way around if you own spedd 400 would you like to switch to classic or cb or dominar....if answer is maybe for 1st que and no for 2nd..then get speed...and may be for both then test ride it to bit longer distance and get what suits you best.
I bought my honda cb 300r like last month.. And i can vouch for the fact that IF you can shell out some extra money then go for a honda bike at least. The reliability and the engine is just on another level.
300 r has some bad reputation when it comes to spare parts availability. Is it true?
Ok, for people who are still confused, if you are a beginner go for any bike mentioned in video they all are great. If you have any experience with RE or your family member have one and you used to ride it just go for RE, any RE. If you have dominar, forget about 350 or 400 just go for a bigger cc bike. If you are a person who wants just a 350 to 400 cc bike and don't want to put much time in the bike maintenance and other stuff just go for Honda. If you want a brand you can have HD. If you want a high performance bike go for KTM. At the end (as a proud owner of speed 400) I'll say speed is like great power (bike) comes with great responsibility, it's a great bike in its way. Imp note :- if you already have a 300-400 cc bike don't go for another same cc bike get a bigger one.
Hi are you reviewing the 2023 xpulse 4v which has riding modes?
What about a person who owns FZ25? Your opinion does still be same or will it change?
What about the person who don't own any of these bikes and want to ,choose speed 400. Is the decision is right one?
Suggest which will be the best motorcycle for me according to my height 5.11*
Factual and unbiased review...great.
Why is your handle bar appearing tilted. Its giving an uneasy feeling.
My first question to this review or anyone owning bikes discussed here is.. Why are you even thinking to switch!?.. 😛.. It shows your bikes are not keeping you happy!!!..
Im sure no Triumph 400 owner, 1 year down the line, would want to upgrade/ downgrade to any of the bikes discussed here!.. Coz it doesnt make any sense..
Similarly if your bikes are already good enough, why do you even get a thought to switch to Triumph!?..
And to make a video & say matter of 1 or 2 months & then there is nothing great.. Then its the same feeling anyone will have with even a 1000cc machine!.. Is this even an important opinion really! 👎
Hey stroll can you do a full comparison video on cb350rs and hdx440. After you do a detailed review on HD x440
STRELL wht bout if we compare it to rr310/g310rr
Is the Highness you riding using a stock handlebar ?
dear strell, speed 400 - dominar 400- kym duke 390 are more similar. enfields- cb- harley are more similar
Honest- dont upgrade from 350 in two months you will get bored... So be boring in your previous bike and save money
Thank you strell!!
Am unicorn rider so upgrading unicorn to speed 400 would be good for me?
The more I see these videos the more I'm getting inclined towards nx500.. what are your thoughts on nx500?
I am planning to buy either Honda h'ness 350 or Triumph speed 400, which once should I prefer, please suggest. My ride will be mostly on city commute and occasional long rides.
So which one did you bought
I am upgrading from discover 93cc(13 years old). I mostly rice in city. I have asked for one inch handle bar raisers and conventional mirrors. I feel I will not regret my buy. I mostly ride in city and occasionally on highway
I sold my meteor 350 to upgrade and already have one hunter350 in my garage is speed 400 will be a good option or should i look for bigger 650s?
My budget is 5L-6L onroad Bengaluru. what is your suggestion?
Re 650? Beneli TRK 502? , or something else ..?
Go for ninja 400 then if you want or u can buy the gs also.
Hello bro, Make a video on honda cb350rs.
love your videos👍❤
bro, the opening location ?
Very practical thoughts ❤
How does it compare to CB350 RS?
Make a video on Navigation + High Speed camera alert helmet.
Exactly my point. Speed 400 is sweet spot between retro and modern.
I like my cb350 but i just wish for a 28bhp/35 nm torque power ratio. It would be unbeatable then. It's a 350 cc engine and honda could easily do that but they choose not to for unknown reasons!
Not for unknown reasons.. They made it like that because if you put more torque and power inside a long stroke engine it may have refinement issues.. Honda is known for perfection..Them engineers knew what they want
@@whiteshadow7892wow never thought in that perspective. I guess you need liquid cooling if you want to extract more power and manage more heat.
@@faustinepimento298 Need liquid cooling need different Bore setup, need dohc setup.. As you can see in CBR 250R its Dohc single cylinder and the power figures are adequate it screams at high revs can pull beyond 160 kmph how.? Its the design and engineering by Honda. This bike is not meant for that but its still does above 100 effortlessly unlike RE which acts like vibrating dildo above 80KMPh
Just curious, so they had to make it exactly like RE, is it?
@@sibarshisdutta Kya bol rahe ho.. exactly same kis angle se laga 😅
CB series Enfield ke pehle se hai.. Enfield bad mein aya uske pehle CB series tha japan mein..thoda research kar lo..
Please share your thoughts about Kawasaku W175.....???...??..?..
But what would you pick among all these motorcycles. I'd definitely go for the Speed 400. Classic 350 is second.
Myself owning an CB350 RS can say that my bike can do 130 or 135 without hesitation and with near to no vibrations...all u have to do is just not put the 5th gear.😂
Honda fam ❤️🔥
Exactly.! My hness at 140 doesn't vibrate at all, still buying speed 400 as im totally fedup from hness due to low end torque, being a long stroke engine, it should have a low end like RE, but all it has is mid range torque that is crazy, but in city it literally makes me cry.!
@@amandatta4941 yeah bro and moreover cb350's tall gearing,I can't remember last tym i switched to 3rd gear in the city roads 🥲. But ig it helps the fuel economy and the engine life in the long run so I'm okay with it.
Btw I would recommend you to wait for some tym before buying speed 400 let the long term reviews flow in first 😂
I own int 650 and honda 350rs....comparing both as cafe racers at different CC , love to drive 350rs more often due to ultra smoothness,light weight,traction control, zero vibration even at top speeds like 130...I can easily cruise 120kmph. Just need to learn how to tame long gears and take the speed to top end. You will enjoy the same smoothness at those speeds. 1 year and 10000km still smooth as day one.
Jawa scambler and speed 400 compare cheyyan pattumoo?
Thank you Bro. Really needed this video♥️♥️
Bought hunter a month back without checking the competition and suddenly whole social media was filled with Speed 400 posts making me feel I made a huge blunder.
Every CZcamsr was giving the crown to Triumph making me more depressed.
I was thinking to test drive the speed400, but was afraid if I like it too much, I might need to sell my brand new hunter at a huge loss.
Your video gave me confidence to test it and exactly as you said the speed 400 felt slow in traffic, there was no thump no feel of power in the city.
Crusing speed of 100+ is the only downside I feel as hunter is comfortable at 80 only but I guess 100+ is too fast for a beginner rider like me who don’t own a proper riding gear. But till 80 hunter feel better to me.
Thts why I always like simple yet powerful bikes with less gizmos.. It just makes life easy and simple. Sad part is there is none such out there.
Honda CB 350 RS ❤️❤️❤️
Me happy with my domi 400 2020 😊
Hi , u are a very good empath , that is true but I have a bs3 mojo And I personally think I don't think the speed 400 will be a significant upgrade but I want to know ur thoughts plz tell
What you said is true, I myself own a speed 400 and that bike is not that good at top end specially after you hit 155km/h, but I never felt lack of mid-range and low-end torque. It pulls me in traffic on 4th gear with no issue at 20-25km/h. I agree it doesn't have the X factor that every other bike on the list offers but after riding my speed 400 for 4500km it seems I don't mind or regret my purchase decision. Keep up the good work 🏍
Thank you Strell
Love Yoú...
Can you please do review on keeyway 300r sports byke
I am rather worried about the service intervals of the Triumph, 16K is too much, the machine start to feel like it's breaking apart
Just change engine oil only before 8k km do this and it will be fine.
Do anyone know when cbr 250 RR will launch in India 😢??
Never😂
I want to purchase my first bike. I need a bike to commute office and sometimes to long rides as well. Which bike will suite me sp 400 or highness 350?
Which one you bought?
Absolutely spot on. I have a Domi 400 UG and took the test ride of the Speed 400, and the first thing that hit my mind is, its not at all an upgrade for a current Domi 400 owner. The feel of performance and power is inferior to Domi since the Domi has more grunt and low end torque and better top end than the Triumph. The only positive side that you will appreciate is the less weight of the Triumph. Otherwise Domi 400 solves more purpose than Speed in every aspect, be it performance or long distance touring. I loved the built quality of the Triumph though 😍.
your Domi is an outright fat overweight trash. And no way it has more low end torque. Just because something is heavy and marketed as touring machine doesn't mean it has more torque. Speed 400 beats duke 390 in gear acceleration. Has way better low end although power delivery is linear. It's definitely not a tourer but for that you have scrambler coming. "Domi" has 0 identity .
Lol, dominar doesn't have a low end you bufoon😂😂
Why would you expect a 400 to 400 switch to be an upgrade. Speed has an edge over Dominar because it is lighter, much better looking and has a Triumph badge.
@@NoNonsense_01 Your iq seems a bit low.. judging by your comment
Why would upgrade from 400 to 400
The fact is speed 400 doesn't have any proper competition, but it's the best in that price range.
What about RE 650s vs Speed 400?
Hello Strell, I'm little bit confused after watching the video. I have already booked the Speed 400 and this is going to be my first bike. I never owned a motorcycle before. Do you have any suggestion for me?
Same
Test drive 2 3 bikes then decide which fulfills ur needs
Look. If you want best of both world. City and highway, Speed 400 is the bike.
Do not go in the nitty gritty details. You’ll be confused forever.
Classic and Cb350 are good bikes. But when you want that extra speed on the highway. They will bore you to death. I have owned classic and Himalayan. I still love both. But I missed the highway performance.
Speed or 400x will excel there.
Vibes will be there on any single cylinder bike.
KTM you gotta see the price as well.
I have also booked the Speed 400. And I'll be upgrading from a 12 year old Pulsar 135LS.
So as a new bike ( first bike or upgrading from below 200cc category) Speed 400 totally makes sense.
What Strell is saying that, If you own and you've come to love one of the bikes mentioned in the video then Speed 400 might not be the upgrade you'll feel spending another 3 lakh on.
@@AdityaLoshali1 Delivery kab denge kuch bola kya?
Hi @Strell , I am planning to get my first bike. Mostly for Daily use in city ride approx 5-10km & Touring on weekends. Confused b/w Duke 390, Speed 400 & GT650 .. What’s ur suggestion
Your budget , i to had a confusion until the price of speed 400 arrives. I choose triumph
+1
If you are looking for the Street Bike in 400cc segment, It's a best option. There is no comparision with Retro Bikes like RE, Honda, JAWA.
The duke has tcs?
Please make another review on Honda Highness
Surprised to see there's no Tvs Ronin in this list
Well very good information just like it is what it is no hype just the motorcycles original characters
But what if a person doesn't own any of the above mentioned bikes is planning to own a speed 400?
Hi Strell loved your informative video.
My question is now that the cb300r is launched at 2.40 lakh ex showroom will it be the best value for money, Spares availability, usability, versatility motor bike when compared to its rivals
I just came for same answer.. I like honda cb300r nd it's also the lightest bike in its segment,now the price has dropped that's why I am confused between cb300r nd speed 400
@@mayank6022so which one you choose ?
Nice video bro! Very informative. I have booked triumph Speed 400 and I'm among the first 10,000 customers to get 10k extra discount. Currently I own a TVS Ronin. Will it be sensible to upgrade fr roming to speed 400 as power and torque is almost the double but the price is just 1.5 times the price of Ronin. I badly want to buy Speed 400 but after watching this video I'm have second thoughts on it. Also my height is 6 feet. Will Speed 400 be enough or shall I wait for scrambler 400X till October? Please do reply......
Not really a upgrade more like a lateral upgrade. Go for twin cylinder bikes as an upgrade
Although I book the bike in heat of moment . I can’t let go my previous bike.
I own classic 350 for past 6 years. Yup the one which vibrates like hell.
However, I love my bike. The way see looks is amazing. Even after 6 years, every now and then I stopped and admire her beauty specially in great lights of city .
I have same affection or may be more for her when she came in my life.
I am confused between speed 400 and honda cb350rs , it will be my first bike , i have test driven both, i liked the engine of Honda but look of triumph, which one should i prefer ?
Im also confused in these 2. So which one you have bought
Is cb highness still a good purchase? There are lot of people facing brake pad issue and wobbling issue. As you are currently having one which has clocked 37k on odo. Would love to have your take on it
Nope, never any issue with brakes. I dont know about Hness coz it got slimmer tyres, but no wobbling on RS. Changing tyres might help
I own a CB350 wobbling because of tyre that too if you ride with both hands up. Els no issues. Break pads depends on your breaking since heavy weight. Dual AbS ,traction control , slipper clutch, good torque. Easy 120 kmph with ease no vibration..ya odo is 23 now ..pakilo oil ..its good as new with vesra brake pads ..
Test ride all bikes for a 200 km stretch you will know
Abs traction unnecessary!? Bruh what 😭
bro cb350 is way cheaper than classic 350 XD and classic doesnt even have slipper clutch and traction control which higness and rs have....so rs is way more value for money than classic
Exactly bro my point regarding vibes.! My hness at 140 doesn't vibrate at all,
Would disagree with you as I'm still buying speed 400 as im totally fedup from hness due to low end torque, being a long stroke engine, it should have a low end like RE, but all it has is mid range torque that is crazy, but in city it literally makes me cry.! If you ride with a pillion, the situation gets worse. But on a hgwy, it rides like a Hness ❤
And speed 400 doesn't have "low end" either it's just a faster revving motor.
@@YASHANK24678 will see it myself tomorrow, if that’s the case then I won’t buy it, happy with the hness then 🤘🏻
@@amandatta4941 what u observed is low end torque good in speed 400 ?
@@subrajitdash2471 its very good
H'ness ...gem engine❤❤❤ even after 2.8 years the engine performs as a showroom bike. Consistent performance, refinement and durability is what a honda bike is.
That's all points are true ❤
Hi Strell, loved your informative video. My question is I would be changing from a Ninja 300 to Speed 400, not for speed but the seating posture as I am 50 years old and find the Ninja uncomfortable for long rides now. Will it be a good desicion
According to me, Ninja 300 already has a relaxed riding posture. The speed 400 also has a slightly forward inclined riding posture. May I know you height.
@@iamstrell I am 5-8", my last long trip on my Ninja made me really uncomfortable
And I can't ride my Ninja with my wife due to low ground clearance
U need scrambler
@@shabbarakninja 300 good touring posture very practical motorcycle in aspect of touring commuting
But if you want to ride with pillion go for highness 350. Reliable,smooth 100kmph touring speed
,good mileage,great built quality..
if you want more power with relax riding possition with pillion wait for classic 650
Thanks bro😊
5 feet 3 inch height ollavark odikkan okkumo
Hi strell,
I currently own yamaha fz v2 and I have booked speed 400 and waiting for delivery.
Will it be good upgrade from 150cc to this or should I look for any other bike? My requirement is monthly once I will be touring rest of my usage is in city basically office commute
Strell what about jawa/yezdi. Why didn't you put them in the comparison. Please tell me the difference i will feel going from jawa 42 to speed 400
I switched from Jawa 42 to Speed 400. I am very happy with that decision. The suspension is better, you have better ground clearance, less vibrations, pillion can also sit comfortably while comparing it with jawa. Finally performance is better. Jawa is a good bike but upgrading to speed made me more happy. This is my personal opinion.
Thanks buddy ❤️
Which is the best 600ccbike available in India??
Do advise
Cbr650
Cb650r
So the point is we still have to wait for the real speed 400.