Nobody mentioned in the video that the steam deck oled has a 90hz display and the lenovo legion go has a 144hz display. I thought you guys as a tech channel would have mentioned these, they are pretty important. People just don't know how to use Windows 11, I use it every single day and I don't have any issues on my desktop PC and on my Asus ROG Ally.
Truthfully what does that matter? Could you please tell me what games you are playing at 144hz? I’d like to play those. Also if you’re running 144hz your bettery is gonna be a cool 4 mins. Most triple A games top out at 90hz
@GlockBaby4270 assuming you only play aaa games but cool. Honestly I haven't hit 144 but I've gone over 90 in a game or 2. But my emulated games definitely hit 144. It definitely matters tho.
I wouldn't say that. SteamOS is very simple to use but it all runs on Linux which some might find harder to use than Windows. But these days there's a guide for everything so it shouldn't be that scary anyway.
@Spacemonkeymojo I might be a little biased since my main OS is Linux but honestly Linux has come a long way and is much easier to use now. I even switched my mom's PC to Linux and she's doing fine with it since she just mostly use an Internet browser which functions pretty much the same across all major Operating Systems such as Windows or MacOS. I also want to mention that Linux is much more secure, no telemetry spying, and no forced updates or reboots. In fact, if you check the connections the Steam Deck makes behind the scenes, they are much less compared to Windows and are all just standard ones such as checking for updates or ping to a time server. Now check your fresh Windows 10/11 install. You'll see a bunch of unnecessary ones that spies on you. 😬
I have both and my experience is completely different. It’s NOT true on Steamdeck you have a smooth experience. Often also games checked as tested or optimized will not run properly, you will need to change graphics settings or install alternative “proton” (a sort of WINE) even if great part of non tested games will run great… It’s true it IS more console like, and very pleasant to use. On Legion Go I have some popups but according to what you have installed and you can disable them almost always. No issue at all until now, bugs will be solved with updates as happened for Steamdeck at launch. More, Legion go is much more powerful, Steamdeck allow you to play smoothly AAA games until 2021. Last thing, for a lot of you the screen size can make the difference, my eyes thanks me where I need to read in games (I like card games and this happen frequently). So they have both pros and cons that make them equivalent. You have just to choose according to your playing style. I’d like a Steamdeck whit 8.8 inches to be honest 😂.
I owned a Steam Deck that I sold yesterday to... buy a Steam Deck OLED. All the games that I tested so far worked well and were largely playable on the Steam Deck and never played with Proton settings. Maybe AAA titles from 22/23 will run slowly, not tested, but when I see that RDR2 and Cyberpunk are running well, I think that if you put in low more recent games it can be playable. Yes, it is still a PC so you have to play with games settings but you can play games as you wish.
@@blm7929i bought a Steamdeck OLED too, it will arrive soon, then I’ll decide what I’ll keep. I realized how well work game streaming from my desktop to Steamdeck and Lenovo. So for recent AAA I can just play remotely at full detail since my main use of handheld is at home in my bed. So Steam OS and new OLED screen could win VS Legion go in my case… I also realized several digital card games (that I love) adjust cards size according to the screen, so NO difference between Legion go and Steamdeck about cards/text size, there is just more or less space to place them on the screen, this does means bigger screen is a relative advantage (no one say this…), more, text are more readable on Steamdeck LCD I am using now, so I assume it will be better on OLED screen. It will be hard to decide.
After lenovo being rude with gaming android phones 📱 with one android os I became seeing even steam deck lcd with 64gb better than go with 500tb in 2019 I got lenovo z6pro with 550$ from official lenovo store they give the Chinese rom android 10 only and the gobila rom still android 9 and they did that with the other phones if this device called ( samsung go) I can say it's better than steam deck
I own a Legion go, and I can tell you is frustrating. I was excited about the fps mode and believe me when I tell you it's a mess. It doesn't translate well with the games and each game has a different controller set up very different from each other. Halo has a different set up than Crisis and COD etc. Other than that, is an impressive system except for the Windows 11 headaches.
Naaah not to bad . Legion go is basically the same as jumping into pc gaming . If you never owned a pc gaming rig as of late yes this will be a crash course and somewhat of a steep learning curve but once you get past that you will realize how lunch better the legion go is . I coming from the deck btw . And when u have the deck long enough you will realize it has it own set of issues. Although an oled screen is nice it doesn't fix the issues . Those of you on the fence just go with the Legion go . These are my honest first impressions for most. If you buy the deck . You will get instant gratification but you will get annoyed/ frustrated at the performance cap and other issues that u WILL notice in the future . Now Legion go you will be impressed with the power of this device but will shortly lived due to the tinkering involved bc it is a windows gaming pc after all. But in the LONG RUN you will be glad/ waaaaay more satisfied you choose the legion go. So it's really instant gratification vs long term Gratification. You choose guys and ladies
Interesting… I have a LeGo and I’ve found the exact opposite. It definitely takes some getting used to, but I was able to quickly adapt and now I play all sorts of games using FPS mode (FPS’, MMOs, MOBAs)
@@zimmiez7368 is not bad if you are playing one game through it. But having the muscle memory to remember all the little inputs of FPS mode is no easy task. I prefer mouse and keyboard. I love the Go but FPS mode should not be a selling point, at least not at the moment.
I disagree I own both and both systems are excellent at what they do for me. It seems like you're not giving the Legion go a chance to shine at what it's good at. I don't have a problem with any of my games that I play steam OS works wonderful on here, and it's an immolation beast!! Just go buy it you will love it
1:34 I lika da mouse and glad he disclosed from a casual view. $630 sale for Lenovo on Amazon though I may prefer optimizing on Steam Deck. Still, I saw the website mentioned 3 months of game pass and someone said you had to tweak anyway so I may go Lenovo. Edit: I did and enjoyed lenovo with 3 months game pass. So many storefronts and demos I retired my gaming channel lol no way I can report on something uniquely, or that gets views. Go lenovo 😇
@@ralphiecifaretto8961 why spend hundreds of dollars on a portable game system then? I'd you're not planning on playing games like that couldn't you just boot them up at home? If you're not a gamer why would you feel the need to buy the latest hardware?
As a mobile DJ, I love the form factor on the Legion Go and the fact that you can take off the controller is a big W for me when I go DJing, so I'll choose Legion Go 🔥
I had mine for a year and some change now had fun figuring things out on it personalizing it for me and there’s tons of videos on CZcams to help you out.Great entry level pc experience especially on the go
@@juniorninjaman865Nice I did a manual swap of the internal nvme ssd with a 1tb one I found online on the base model saved over $100 in not needing to get the higher end one 😂
I’ve taken the Steam deck, not really sure at first, im loving it, remembers me when i played all my time on the game boy advance, im enjoying games much more than on my pc, you cant run all games but the games that are supported runs really good, this thing is wow
@@ThompYTyeah but the compatibility for steam would be better like when devs make ports better for games to run smoother just like amd and nvidia gpus run better with certain games then the other , i mean it has the power
@@MaxxKoggen not necessarily. The ram boost is good but more free ram is not more performant, and the overhead from the transnational layers will cancel whatever few tiny percentage points you gained (still tiny changes)
Me too if valve sell em in my country x.x surprisingly the lowest price between the 3 is rog ally , so i bought the rog ally till the next gen handheld available :D
@@Lemon.Icecream I did proper research before buying, so i didn't have to regret later. :) Lenovo released several major upgrades last 2 weeks, and they keep people updated every week on what's next too. Anyway. It depends if you want a huge 144hz screen or not, Steam OS or Windows. GO is more powerful than Steam Deck. Rog Ally have same APU as GO. It's not easy to choose between all 3. There is no perfect handheld.
How does text look on the LeGo? I’ve had steam deck since launch and the text is too small for me to play without eye strain. The larger screen got me interested.
Only get a Steam Deck if you plan on playing low to mid end games since it doesn't have the power to manage higher end games like the devices using the more powerful AMD Z1 and also the Steam Deck is limited to 15w TDP while the AMD Z1 devices can go past 30w so they can play higher end AAA games.
I settled on buying the steam deck to play mid end games on the go and while I’m at home I got my PC and laptop both of which have 3080 or higher. But if all you can buy is 1 device then go for the GO 👍🏽
if your not good with pc and u just wanna run trough the steam deck is the way to go... i love my lenovo legion and would not get something else..... yes the legion space is rough ( i dont boot or use it ) but updates will come soon enough
How things have changed. I used to listen to podcasts in the early to mid 2000s, and everyone said, "know body wants a console/pc experience on the go, that's stupid" i was like "i do, and how about a bigger device" "but but... it can't fit in my pocket. " Was the rebuttal....lol
I have the legion go, a switch oled, a switch lite, and the Playstation Portal. A Retroid Pocket 2s, Trimui Smart Pro, and Anbernic RG ARC coming in. And that's just my current gen stuff. I love handheld gaming, and the Legion go has been a beast so far. Playing everything from the first Halflife for the first time in FPS mode, to Halo Infinite on the 3 month gamepass trail that came with the legion go.
Lenovo Legion Go is more expensive because it is also considerably more powerful than the Stem Deck OLED. It has better internals than even the ROG Ally.
@@korggod9989 efficiency IS everything on a portable device. If youre gonna be stationary for most of the time then go for a desktop or a clunky laptop, those outperform these by a lot!
@@ThompYT it's not everything, it's a plus but not everything, most people would rather take the more powerful device over the more efficient device and specially in the case of the steam deck vs legion go, it's not like the legion go is bottom of the barrel terrible efficiency, it's good however steamdecks is better. Same applies to power, steamdeck is powerful but legion go is more powerful. So ultimately it boils down to what you value more and as you'd presumably be buying these to have the best gaming experience possible on a handheld, that's when power becomes priority over efficiency. Wherever the legion go lacks in performance to battery ratio, it makes up for in very efficient external hardware with the ability to take of the controls and prop up the device on a table and play that way too.
@@korggod9989 these "most people" don't seem to be the majority. They seem like the minority if sale numbers are anything. And if it depends on what you value more, then what you value is not a mobile handheld device but a kinda-portable gaming PC which is called a laptop these days. And the external hardware is not "very efficient" making something battery powered and another thing that needs to be charged by the main battery is worse for efficiency
Why Steam deck is better than legion ? Can you please give me your opinion. Because I'm confused and about to buy one You might also consider Asus rog ally tho
I've owned the SD oled and the LGO, and I've sold both to play on PC again. There's no comfortable position to play a handheld that big without my arms going numb after 30 minutes of playing.
The comparison points out the problems with the Lenovo Go device, but misses on some key downsides of the Steam Deck, which makes me believe that it was sponsored by Valve: - Less processing power - The fact that with Steam Deck you can play less games compared to the Lenovo: there are many more games for windows compared to linux - The screen resolution
I agree Lenovo Go is not just a gaming device, it is a computer, a powerful one, the Z1 Extreme is just as good as a Ryzen 7 5700X (and that is actually very surprising), it could be use as a computer that outperforms many laptops, and the GPU is just as good as an RTX 1650
Games don't have to be Linux compatible ! It is all the interest of this machine, it runs Windows games ! I have no Linux game in my library, all Windows, and no problem with the Steam Deck (thanks to Proton). Yes, some games will not run because of their anti-cheat that is really made for Windows (and works like spywares) and some others because they need something not available, but the thing is that you don't have to restrict to linux games.
Biggest tip : If you know pcs - legion and rog If you know very little - steamdeck If you nkow nothing about pc and windows - switch. We have to be very clear that the closer you get to windows the learning curve gets higher.. more issues arise.. it’s not a console.. hopefully soon it can be that easy.. but its not.. this is the reality. Even steam deck.. when things aren’t compatible that is still a learning curve.. this is the reason why consoles and switch do so well. So i hope that helps.. thats the basis for purchasing- how much knowledge you have and are you willing to be frustrated and learn?
I have the Legion go and the steam deck oled and I don’t like both of them. I’m thinking on returning both of them. Steam deck under performs. The Legion go is so buggy that most of the games I have crash or just simply don’t work
I bought a $1,400 laptop in order to work and be able to play decent looking games such as Forza 4, God of War, Witcher 3, Street Fighter 4 and Tekken 8. 2 days ago, I bought a Legion Go for $749, and it does the same thing. The only difgerence is it doesn have a mouse and keyboard, so buying an additional $80 USB-C dock, I connected my PC's Mouse, Keyboard and Monitor, and what do you know? I have a full gaming PC for half the price. Legion Go is the best Windows 11 handheld gaming/PC right now.
If you looking for performance it isn't even close, the Lenovo legion is your choice. If you looking for something that is more stablish and optimize but ok or average with power and with performances then the Steam Deck is your choice. Another thing to keep in mind, the Lenovo legion just came out so is really not a fair comparison to say that the other one is better optimize since the Steam Deck has been out for 2 or close to two years now and the other one just came out and it will require a lot of optimization in the weeks and months ahead to work good with games. I would say before you go out shopping for one of the two and you not in a hurry, just wait a few more months, maybe 3 or 4 more months and by then the legion would be better optimize, and it will be a good choice for you.
He doesn't mention the legion uses hardware that's 2 generations newer and substantially more powerful in games with ryzen 7th Gen instead of 5th Gen apu
He didn't mention it because he is baised like most of the Valve shills in thr comments section claiming that the Steamdeck is more powerful is a cope.
Depends on where you plan to play the games. Are you more Mobile like in a car or on a bus or do you plan to always carry a Laptop with you and use it on a desk or table?
do you want to be able to hold the whole thing in your hands, or do you want to have to get a place to set down and use a laptop, with an extra mouse and/or controller?
I would say that unless you're impatient and you really want a new handheld gaming console right now: It's best to wait for the Switch 2 announcement first before deciding what console is most worth it to you (unless you just don't give a fig about Nintendo games). I LOVE the idea of a Windows handheld device personally. It makes it easy to just get whatever game you want on there, however you want to get it on there. It allows instant access to all emulators. You can attach it effortlessly to any display monitor and you have a full PC setup that takes up virtually zero space compared to a full gaming PC rig. The controller turning into a mouse is a true work of innovation that I think is being downplayed right now. Genius!
There's a lot of focus in other videos on how the Lenovo is more powerful and runs games at a higher fps, but this video focuses on usability, which is more important imo.
No one is prohibiting you from using launchers otherwise from steam, and proton also has an anticheat runtime, which can allow you to play games which are using anticheat systems, with some tricks actually But still, legion go has a much more performance, so it's depends on your wish, which one you want
I don’t understand why companies keep trying to make the screens giant, the whole point is portability, the only part I like about the legion is the controller mouse feature, and the fact it has windows 11
In my prespective view, i would prefer to get Lenogo Legion go, due to many features and spec it have while in other hand the Steam doesnt, such as Detachable joysticks, and that is really important, imagine you connect your handheld to a TV and want to go back sit down on a couch and start to monitor the TV using the Joystick you detached... that case doesnt work for Steam deck ... also the 8.8 inch screen is just another Go for me, the 1600P and 144Hrtz is a wow
Beleave me if this is your criteria you wrong. Legion GO Display has an excellent quality and I assure you it seems an oled, only watching carefully you realize it is not.
Bought the ROG Ally and sold my SD its an insane device for the money its a real Desktop replacement and long term you can add external GPUS. Game over.
Exactly. You can’t compare software issues between steam deck and legion go right now considering the deck has been out for I believe about a year now and the legion go just launched at the end of October. So clearly steam has had way longer to throw out some updates and smooth things out. Can’t compare them and it’s not fair to make that the selling point
Great comparison. I am loving my combo of an OLED Switch with a 1 TB MicroSD card and my 64 GB Steam Deck I upgraded to a 1 TB SSD and a 1 TB MicroSD card. The Lenovo Legion Go is amazing for what it is but that price is too much for me. Both the Switch and the Steam Deck offer amazing value for money for gaming. The consistent support and updates from Valve have been amazing for the Steam Deck. With their 3.5 update they even found a way to improve the picture quality of the LCD screen. I am definitely not taking all this portable gaming goodness for granted.
@@Majorpain32677 Not much gaming period. I work long hours at work. When I am home the wife or daughter is usually using our main TV so portable gaming has allowed me to actually play games and rediscover games I already owned but never got a chance to play. I am out everyday with work and sometimes go to work in the dark of the early morning and come back home in the dark of the evening and a lot of time I have work I have to bring home with me too. I definitely look forward to a little metal break with some gaming. Especially under Biden, I have really felt like I have been working more and earning less. I hope to take a much needed break with the family soon and I really hope more people wake up and see what is happening around them.
So far my experience with the Legion Go has been mostly good so far. It’s great not being chained down to steam. I’m also able to play GamePass games natively along with other launchers. And being able to play AAA games at higher resolutions and still maintaining playable frame rates is nice. (It’s my Baldur’s Gate 3 machine.) However, part of me still wonders if I would be happier with the Steam Deck. Most of my gaming library is in Steam. Plus the Legion go not having a sleep button to suspend my games like the Steam Deck and Nintendo switch does suck. As a father of a newborn, I only have time to game in spurts. So If I can’t save I’ll constantly have to lay the Legion go down and leave it running, plugged in until I can get back to it. I just wondered if the hit in performance is worth it.
After Legion Go, 5 minutes on steamdeck and realizing how limited you are on games will hit you pretty hard. SD OLED is not better but does make for a more portable solution with better battery life. Despite the names, it is better on the go than the legion go
I’m actually glad someone without a pc gaming background reviewed it. My biggest hesitation to these devices is that it is too much of a pc. I play on consoles and i own a Mac, literally haven’t worked on a windows since I was a child.
and that's where these Windows-based gaming handhelds still fail. That it is still Windows and the OS isn't inherently touch-based or scales well for different resolutions. Coupled with having to tinker to make games run versus Steam Deck where you have the 'Verified' badge to be more console-like where games just work
I personally only use the steam deck with steam OS and aside for very light tinkering all works great. Many people use desktop mode and other game launchers and that’s great. Still crazy to me I replayed through cyberpunk 2077 on the go!
Same so I went with the steam deck oled. I LOVE IT!!! I’m just getting into the other things I can do. I am dual booting windows and steam so I can also have Xbox game pass on it as well.
This is actually really important. There really needs to be a clear - PC knowledges reviews and vids vs Comin from a console knowledge videos. Cause pc.. the drives.. all that stuff is a headache even for those that know pc.. and it’s frustrating.. that’s were the steam deck does win - ease of use.. switch bigger w.. cause its just open game done. So if legion really wants to target that MASSS switch console market.. they need to focus on easy asf useability. So it’s 1000% important to have people that aren’t pc savvy to review this.
@@PJ-sv4iw100% agree. Thisi s the barrier.. pc windows is not easy for those that aren’t familiar.. and why, windows pc really can’t compete with steam deck.. no matter how powerful some are.. Too complicated for the average consumer.
I have both of these. The steam deck has easier accessibility and is way simpler to use but the Lenovo has more simple functionality. I can play MW3 and Fortnite on Lenovo very simple. For the steam deck I have to work around stuff to get stuff like Fortnite and MW3 running on there. The steam deck is amazing but limited, the Lenovo great but windows definitely causes it to have some flaws.
4:21 why do you have messenges? Is this your first experience with Windows and Gaming? You know, you can deactivate the messenges and popups and you know the game mode!
Why does everyone complain about the same things about the legion ITS A WINDOWS DEVICE. Is that a bad thing? NO does that mean it’s not as plug in and play as steam deck YES but the steam deck is SUPER limiting. By what games you can play because again of anti cheat software down to what apps you can download (like epic games) sure there’s work arounds but wasn’t the steam deck supposed to be the most plug in and play option? Overall go with your gut feeling if you know you don’t know much about tech go with the steam deck if you have some know how and wanna expand your knowledge get a legion I just swapped my steam deck out for a legion and I’ve been up since yesterday 😂👍
Steam deck is just a steam gaming console. Legion go is a full blown windows computer, also a windows tablet (removing the controllers), and a powerful pc multi platform gaming console. You can play Xbox game pass with it, also cloud gaming. Hardware wise is also much more powerful than the steam deck. So is much more value per money worth
This guy didn’t even mention the fact that the Legion Go is much more powerful than the SteamDeck or the fact that it has a 144hz display(although no vrr so kind of useless)
Nobody mentioned in the video that the steam deck oled has a 90hz display and the lenovo legion go has a 144hz display. I thought you guys as a tech channel would have mentioned these, they are pretty important. People just don't know how to use Windows 11, I use it every single day and I don't have any issues on my desktop PC and on my Asus ROG Ally.
He said he wasn’t a PC gamer. Having him do this review is like having a hair stylist write a review on a corvette
@@JZF629 my hairstylist owns a corvette. She loves to drive stick
They windows sound like a damn nightmare 😭. Really easy to use
Truthfully what does that matter? Could you please tell me what games you are playing at 144hz? I’d like to play those. Also if you’re running 144hz your bettery is gonna be a cool 4 mins. Most triple A games top out at 90hz
@GlockBaby4270 assuming you only play aaa games but cool.
Honestly I haven't hit 144 but I've gone over 90 in a game or 2. But my emulated games definitely hit 144.
It definitely matters tho.
Steam Deck has the best seamless user out-of-the-box experience out of all the portable gaming devices I own. 👍
Man, I gotta get a steam deck OLED
Yeah can only use steam 🥱🥱🥱🥱
I wouldn't say that. SteamOS is very simple to use but it all runs on Linux which some might find harder to use than Windows. But these days there's a guide for everything so it shouldn't be that scary anyway.
@Spacemonkeymojo I might be a little biased since my main OS is Linux but honestly Linux has come a long way and is much easier to use now. I even switched my mom's PC to Linux and she's doing fine with it since she just mostly use an Internet browser which functions pretty much the same across all major Operating Systems such as Windows or MacOS.
I also want to mention that Linux is much more secure, no telemetry spying, and no forced updates or reboots. In fact, if you check the connections the Steam Deck makes behind the scenes, they are much less compared to Windows and are all just standard ones such as checking for updates or ping to a time server. Now check your fresh Windows 10/11 install. You'll see a bunch of unnecessary ones that spies on you. 😬
@@Spacemonkeymojoas long as you never leave game mode (why would you) you never need to touch Linux
I have both and my experience is completely different. It’s NOT true on Steamdeck you have a smooth experience. Often also games checked as tested or optimized will not run properly, you will need to change graphics settings or install alternative “proton” (a sort of WINE) even if great part of non tested games will run great… It’s true it IS more console like, and very pleasant to use. On Legion Go I have some popups but according to what you have installed and you can disable them almost always. No issue at all until now, bugs will be solved with updates as happened for Steamdeck at launch. More, Legion go is much more powerful, Steamdeck allow you to play smoothly AAA games until 2021. Last thing, for a lot of you the screen size can make the difference, my eyes thanks me where I need to read in games (I like card games and this happen frequently). So they have both pros and cons that make them equivalent. You have just to choose according to your playing style. I’d like a Steamdeck whit 8.8 inches to be honest 😂.
I owned a Steam Deck that I sold yesterday to... buy a Steam Deck OLED. All the games that I tested so far worked well and were largely playable on the Steam Deck and never played with Proton settings. Maybe AAA titles from 22/23 will run slowly, not tested, but when I see that RDR2 and Cyberpunk are running well, I think that if you put in low more recent games it can be playable.
Yes, it is still a PC so you have to play with games settings but you can play games as you wish.
@@blm7929i bought a Steamdeck OLED too, it will arrive soon, then I’ll decide what I’ll keep. I realized how well work game streaming from my desktop to Steamdeck and Lenovo. So for recent AAA I can just play remotely at full detail since my main use of handheld is at home in my bed. So Steam OS and new OLED screen could win VS Legion go in my case… I also realized several digital card games (that I love) adjust cards size according to the screen, so NO difference between Legion go and Steamdeck about cards/text size, there is just more or less space to place them on the screen, this does means bigger screen is a relative advantage (no one say this…), more, text are more readable on Steamdeck LCD I am using now, so I assume it will be better on OLED screen. It will be hard to decide.
The best for Shooter game , what do you suggest plz 🥺 steem oled or lenovo
After lenovo being rude with gaming android phones 📱 with one android os I became seeing even steam deck lcd with 64gb better than go with 500tb in 2019 I got lenovo z6pro with 550$ from official lenovo store they give the Chinese rom android 10 only and the gobila rom still android 9 and they did that with the other phones if this device called ( samsung go) I can say it's better than steam deck
Love that these machines are beefier with larger screens than the stuff we grew up with.
Indeed gone are the days of 5 inch displays
Yeah the screen on the Sega game gear was so small!!
Remember the gameboy micro haha
I own a Legion go, and I can tell you is frustrating. I was excited about the fps mode and believe me when I tell you it's a mess. It doesn't translate well with the games and each game has a different controller set up very different from each other. Halo has a different set up than Crisis and COD etc. Other than that, is an impressive system except for the Windows 11 headaches.
Naaah not to bad . Legion go is basically the same as jumping into pc gaming . If you never owned a pc gaming rig as of late yes this will be a crash course and somewhat of a steep learning curve but once you get past that you will realize how lunch better the legion go is . I coming from the deck btw . And when u have the deck long enough you will realize it has it own set of issues. Although an oled screen is nice it doesn't fix the issues . Those of you on the fence just go with the Legion go . These are my honest first impressions for most. If you buy the deck . You will get instant gratification but you will get annoyed/ frustrated at the performance cap and other issues that u WILL notice in the future . Now Legion go you will be impressed with the power of this device but will shortly lived due to the tinkering involved bc it is a windows gaming pc after all. But in the LONG RUN you will be glad/ waaaaay more satisfied you choose the legion go. So it's really instant gratification vs long term
Gratification. You choose guys and ladies
Interesting… I have a LeGo and I’ve found the exact opposite. It definitely takes some getting used to, but I was able to quickly adapt and now I play all sorts of games using FPS mode (FPS’, MMOs, MOBAs)
@@zimmiez7368 is not bad if you are playing one game through it. But having the muscle memory to remember all the little inputs of FPS mode is no easy task. I prefer mouse and keyboard. I love the Go but FPS mode should not be a selling point, at least not at the moment.
skill issue.
@@Risbruh 😂 Could be. But there's also not enough buttons to match a Keyboard. You still going to miss some inputs regardless.
I disagree I own both and both systems are excellent at what they do for me. It seems like you're not giving the Legion go a chance to shine at what it's good at. I don't have a problem with any of my games that I play steam OS works wonderful on here, and it's an immolation beast!! Just go buy it you will love it
Just bought it and I’m so excited
Review immediately negated by: “I’m not much of a PC gamer or tinkerer”
Yeah like wtf pic someone else for the job then
1:34 I lika da mouse and glad he disclosed from a casual view. $630 sale for Lenovo on Amazon though I may prefer optimizing on Steam Deck. Still, I saw the website mentioned 3 months of game pass and someone said you had to tweak anyway so I may go Lenovo. Edit: I did and enjoyed lenovo with 3 months game pass. So many storefronts and demos I retired my gaming channel lol no way I can report on something uniquely, or that gets views. Go lenovo 😇
Well, that describes millions of people. 😊
@@ralphiecifaretto8961 why spend hundreds of dollars on a portable game system then? I'd you're not planning on playing games like that couldn't you just boot them up at home? If you're not a gamer why would you feel the need to buy the latest hardware?
@@Merc399 Lolol, are you under the impression that EVERY gamer is a PC gamer? I'd say the vast majority of gamers are NOT PC gamers.
As a mobile DJ, I love the form factor on the Legion Go and the fact that you can take off the controller is a big W for me when I go DJing, so I'll choose Legion Go 🔥
Lol mobile dj that’s not a job
@@Majorpain32677 for real I didn't even get paid 😞
If it makes miney, it's a job
bet you don't even work. @@Majorpain32677
@@synysterpainyeah, last night I received my first ever payment from DJing, then it means it is a job
I just ordered my first Steam Deck, a refurbished 512 GB model. I'm beyond excited.
You made the right choice. Easier to use and it's fun
Nice, I bought a 2tb sandisk and manually installed it, I love my deck
I had mine for a year and some change now had fun figuring things out on it personalizing it for me and there’s tons of videos on CZcams to help you out.Great entry level pc experience especially on the go
@@juniorninjaman865Nice I did a manual swap of the internal nvme ssd with a 1tb one I found online on the base model saved over $100 in not needing to get the higher end one 😂
I’ve taken the Steam deck, not really sure at first, im loving it, remembers me when i played all my time on the game boy advance, im enjoying games much more than on my pc, you cant run all games but the games that are supported runs really good, this thing is wow
I’ll take the Legion Go.
I have had no issues with my Legion go. No slow downs or crashes.
Same
The Legion go will do well when steamOS launches for other handhelds. I just wonder if the optimizations are OS or hardware.
hardware. Legion go will not change at all if it got steamos
@@ThompYTyeah but the compatibility for steam would be better like when devs make ports better for games to run smoother just like amd and nvidia gpus run better with certain games then the other , i mean it has the power
@ThompYT yeah, it would. Linux is lighter vs Windows so even without the Deck optimisations, games would run better
@@MaxxKoggen not necessarily. The ram boost is good but more free ram is not more performant, and the overhead from the transnational layers will cancel whatever few tiny percentage points you gained (still tiny changes)
@@MaxxKoggen Linux may be lighter in some sense, but windows is the standard for optimising games.
0:36 so why not have someone who isn't apprehensive about PC gaming do the review?
I wish the Steam Deck upgrade got a Z1 Extreme CPU and not just the OLED screen and bigger battery size.
Lenovo and Asus are both better than weak steam
I'll take the Deck OLED.
Smart move.
Me too if valve sell em in my country x.x surprisingly the lowest price between the 3 is rog ally , so i bought the rog ally till the next gen handheld available :D
If steam deck OLED will run better the ps3 I will get it but at the moment no one shows more then 2 or 3 games on it..........
SD is too weak to even game on
@@AverageUser-if that was the case no one would buy it 🤔
I bought Lenovo Go at launch because of the big screen, Mouse mode, FPS mode, Tablet mode and other things.
Regrets or no regrets? I'm definitely leaning more to legion go but people saying steam deck is better is making me indecisive lol
@@Lemon.Icecream I did proper research before buying, so i didn't have to regret later. :) Lenovo released several major upgrades last 2 weeks, and they keep people updated every week on what's next too. Anyway. It depends if you want a huge 144hz screen or not, Steam OS or Windows.
GO is more powerful than Steam Deck.
Rog Ally have same APU as GO. It's not easy to choose between all 3. There is no perfect handheld.
@V3ntilator That's true. Thank you for your reply! You encouraged me more to get the go haha, I'll probably do
How does text look on the LeGo? I’ve had steam deck since launch and the text is too small for me to play without eye strain. The larger screen got me interested.
@@V3ntilator xbox deck maybe perhaps
Only get a Steam Deck if you plan on playing low to mid end games since it doesn't have the power to manage higher end games like the devices using the more powerful AMD Z1 and also the Steam Deck is limited to 15w TDP while the AMD Z1 devices can go past 30w so they can play higher end AAA games.
I settled on buying the steam deck to play mid end games on the go and while I’m at home I got my PC and laptop both of which have 3080 or higher. But if all you can buy is 1 device then go for the GO 👍🏽
if your not good with pc and u just wanna run trough the steam deck is the way to go... i love my lenovo legion and would not get something else..... yes the legion space is rough ( i dont boot or use it ) but updates will come soon enough
I’m trying to get one or either to mostly just play, warzone, Arma 3 and tarkov, which do you recommend?
@@el_plebe_psycho1040 warzone runs really nice in the legion go. There is many vids out there. Arma 3 will probably also run fine on the legion
My STEAM LIBRARY is growing.
STEAM DECK offers immediate, seamless access to it.
I went with Steam Oled because I think optimization will be better on it.
Going from the Steam Deck to the Legion Go in an ease of use case is so refreshing. I'm never going back to Linux again.
Have the Normal Steam Deck, will definitely grab the Legion go.
How things have changed. I used to listen to podcasts in the early to mid 2000s, and everyone said, "know body wants a console/pc experience on the go, that's stupid" i was like "i do, and how about a bigger device" "but but... it can't fit in my pocket. " Was the rebuttal....lol
I have the legion go, a switch oled, a switch lite, and the Playstation Portal. A Retroid Pocket 2s, Trimui Smart Pro, and Anbernic RG ARC coming in. And that's just my current gen stuff. I love handheld gaming, and the Legion go has been a beast so far. Playing everything from the first Halflife for the first time in FPS mode, to Halo Infinite on the 3 month gamepass trail that came with the legion go.
Dude, quit your bragging. No one cares
@@shinelamont I care.
I’m super interested in what this stranger has to say in CZcams comment section.
@@shinelamontI enjoyed his comment. Top tier
Lenovo Legion Go is more expensive because it is also considerably more powerful than the Stem Deck OLED. It has better internals than even the ROG Ally.
it has like almost the exact same internals. But power isn't everything ,steam deck clears in efficiency
@@ThompYTefficiency isn't everything, I would rather take power and that's the main property to me that's important when it comes to gaming
@@korggod9989 efficiency IS everything on a portable device. If youre gonna be stationary for most of the time then go for a desktop or a clunky laptop, those outperform these by a lot!
@@ThompYT it's not everything, it's a plus but not everything, most people would rather take the more powerful device over the more efficient device and specially in the case of the steam deck vs legion go, it's not like the legion go is bottom of the barrel terrible efficiency, it's good however steamdecks is better. Same applies to power, steamdeck is powerful but legion go is more powerful. So ultimately it boils down to what you value more and as you'd presumably be buying these to have the best gaming experience possible on a handheld, that's when power becomes priority over efficiency. Wherever the legion go lacks in performance to battery ratio, it makes up for in very efficient external hardware with the ability to take of the controls and prop up the device on a table and play that way too.
@@korggod9989 these "most people" don't seem to be the majority. They seem like the minority if sale numbers are anything. And if it depends on what you value more, then what you value is not a mobile handheld device but a kinda-portable gaming PC which is called a laptop these days. And the external hardware is not "very efficient" making something battery powered and another thing that needs to be charged by the main battery is worse for efficiency
Why Ally is not in the conversation?
Cause its the worst of both worlds
He's discussing new consoles. Legion and Deck OLED just came out. Ally was months ago
If the steam deck gets controller drift are there easy ways to fix it since they aren't detachable?
yes would be able to buy replacement joysticks
Easy to fix and already got sticks available to add
Told me everything i needed to know will be ordering a steamdeck oled soon thanks!
Why Steam deck is better than legion ? Can you please give me your opinion. Because I'm confused and about to buy one
You might also consider Asus rog ally tho
I've owned the SD oled and the LGO, and I've sold both to play on PC again. There's no comfortable position to play a handheld that big without my arms going numb after 30 minutes of playing.
Sounds like u need to hang up the controller and hit the gym
@@noname-mu6kn😂
Cnet still exist?
The comparison points out the problems with the Lenovo Go device, but misses on some key downsides of the Steam Deck, which makes me believe that it was sponsored by Valve:
- Less processing power
- The fact that with Steam Deck you can play less games compared to the Lenovo: there are many more games for windows compared to linux
- The screen resolution
I agree
Lenovo Go is not just a gaming device, it is a computer, a powerful one, the Z1 Extreme is just as good as a Ryzen 7 5700X (and that is actually very surprising), it could be use as a computer that outperforms many laptops, and the GPU is just as good as an RTX 1650
Games don't have to be Linux compatible ! It is all the interest of this machine, it runs Windows games ! I have no Linux game in my library, all Windows, and no problem with the Steam Deck (thanks to Proton).
Yes, some games will not run because of their anti-cheat that is really made for Windows (and works like spywares) and some others because they need something not available, but the thing is that you don't have to restrict to linux games.
HALL EFFECT STICKS SHUD BE STANDARD NOW ON ALL HANDHELDS
Why not all controllers period?
I ended up with a rog-ally and I have had an amazing gaming experience.
Ive heard people talk about how the steam deck is a passion project. What does this mean and is the Legion GO a passion project?
Once a windows user always a windows user
Lenovo Legion Go OLED needs to happen
Yeah yeah which ones have private browser mode?
I got the legion go. I go to steam and buy the games under the steam deck catagory and also run emulators on it.
I been wanted a handheld, but knowing how the game goes . Im juat patiently waiting for the best specs for my budget
Biggest tip :
If you know pcs - legion and rog
If you know very little - steamdeck
If you nkow nothing about pc and windows - switch.
We have to be very clear that the closer you get to windows the learning curve gets higher.. more issues arise.. it’s not a console.. hopefully soon it can be that easy.. but its not.. this is the reality. Even steam deck.. when things aren’t compatible that is still a learning curve.. this is the reason why consoles and switch do so well.
So i hope that helps.. thats the basis for purchasing- how much knowledge you have and are you willing to be frustrated and learn?
I have the Legion go and the steam deck oled and I don’t like both of them. I’m thinking on returning both of them. Steam deck under performs. The Legion go is so buggy that most of the games I have crash or just simply don’t work
Cool, have the guy that doesnt PC game review these...
I bought a $1,400 laptop in order to work and be able to play decent looking games such as Forza 4, God of War, Witcher 3, Street Fighter 4 and Tekken 8. 2 days ago, I bought a Legion Go for $749, and it does the same thing. The only difgerence is it doesn have a mouse and keyboard, so buying an additional $80 USB-C dock, I connected my PC's Mouse, Keyboard and Monitor, and what do you know? I have a full gaming PC for half the price. Legion Go is the best Windows 11 handheld gaming/PC right now.
If you looking for performance it isn't even close, the Lenovo legion is your choice. If you looking for something that is more stablish and optimize but ok or average with power and with performances then the Steam Deck is your choice.
Another thing to keep in mind, the Lenovo legion just came out so is really not a fair comparison to say that the other one is better optimize since the Steam Deck has been out for 2 or close to two years now and the other one just came out and it will require a lot of optimization in the weeks and months ahead to work good with games.
I would say before you go out shopping for one of the two and you not in a hurry, just wait a few more months, maybe 3 or 4 more months and by then the legion would be better optimize, and it will be a good choice for you.
Hopefully Lenovo creates the more refined version.
Deck OLED seems awesome, but it’s not as versatile by comparison.
Be good if the steam deck Oled had a bigger screen
it does
@chosenelite762 the screen is tiny it's 0.4 bigger than the Og deck but it's tiny compared to legion
He doesn't mention the legion uses hardware that's 2 generations newer and substantially more powerful in games with ryzen 7th Gen instead of 5th Gen apu
Only at higher watts. This is a battery constrained machine. It loses all of its edge at 15 watts
He didn't mention it because he is baised like most of the Valve shills in thr comments section claiming that the Steamdeck is more powerful is a cope.
@@Elknkam but the Legion Go is more expensive bro
If you want pc gaming, get a pc gaming device.
If you console game and you want steam, get the deck.
You can hook up a eGPU to the Lenovo go
limited by usb4 bandwidth.
@@MicaelAzevedo ive seen ETA Prime hook one up
Deck all day every day
1- Buy the Legion Go
2- Install SteamOS
3-????
4- Profit!
Does anyone know why quake 4 isn't playable on the legion Go from game pass? I get a GL error
Is it better getting an Laptop Gaming PC or an Gaming PC Handheld?
Depends on where you plan to play the games. Are you more Mobile like in a car or on a bus or do you plan to always carry a Laptop with you and use it on a desk or table?
do you want to be able to hold the whole thing in your hands, or do you want to have to get a place to set down and use a laptop, with an extra mouse and/or controller?
laptop is more powerful but the handheld can be more convenient in terms of size
You don't own games with steam, instead you have few from Microsoft, and EA you cannot just use them without purchasing them again on Steam Deck
how are you going to mention Nintendo Switch, Valve Steamdeck, Legion Go,.. and completely skip Asus Rog Ally?
Rog ally is trash
Handheld pc with windows OS are just mini laptop
@@arfianwismiga5912 what an ignorant reply
Would the steam deck be a good start point for people who dont play on pc?
absolutely
Yes, I hate to sit too long infront of pc. I choose steamdeck
I would say that unless you're impatient and you really want a new handheld gaming console right now: It's best to wait for the Switch 2 announcement first before deciding what console is most worth it to you (unless you just don't give a fig about Nintendo games). I LOVE the idea of a Windows handheld device personally. It makes it easy to just get whatever game you want on there, however you want to get it on there. It allows instant access to all emulators. You can attach it effortlessly to any display monitor and you have a full PC setup that takes up virtually zero space compared to a full gaming PC rig. The controller turning into a mouse is a true work of innovation that I think is being downplayed right now. Genius!
Are there any leaks about the switch 2?
I have the legion go and im not sure what he’s talking about. What a machine
Really?
I am curious to see how these systems will perform when steamos is released.
The steam decks strength and best selling point is steam input, and that it’s always being updated.
A very balanced review. Steam Deck for me.
There's a lot of focus in other videos on how the Lenovo is more powerful and runs games at a higher fps, but this video focuses on usability, which is more important imo.
According to what games you play. I play games where there is a lot to read and 8.8 inches saves my eyes even if I am a SD fan.
No one is prohibiting you from using launchers otherwise from steam, and proton also has an anticheat runtime, which can allow you to play games which are using anticheat systems, with some tricks actually
But still, legion go has a much more performance, so it's depends on your wish, which one you want
i have to calculate the mass of the sun to decide which one is better LOL
I don’t understand why companies keep trying to make the screens giant, the whole point is portability, the only part I like about the legion is the controller mouse feature, and the fact it has windows 11
Why don't you like it big?
I think the psp was the best handheld device it was on the sweet spot Jesus Sony come on
Greaat video but i still can’t decide 😭
In my prespective view, i would prefer to get Lenogo Legion go, due to many features and spec it have while in other hand the Steam doesnt, such as Detachable joysticks, and that is really important, imagine you connect your handheld to a TV and want to go back sit down on a couch and start to monitor the TV using the Joystick you detached... that case doesnt work for Steam deck
... also the 8.8 inch screen is just another Go for me, the 1600P and 144Hrtz is a wow
Sounds like a steam deck fanboy that never actually played the deck for over a year.
Ill take oled screen anytime anywhere
Beleave me if this is your criteria you wrong. Legion GO Display has an excellent quality and I assure you it seems an oled, only watching carefully you realize it is not.
@@AtrusDesign so u sayin valve is scamming people by using a non oled screen?
Actually, what I care about is the performance comparison of the machines.
Where the true deck heads at!!!!!!
Bought the ROG Ally and sold my SD its an insane device for the money its a real Desktop replacement and long term you can add external GPUS. Game over.
The thing with the legion go is because of how new it is its doesn't have a whole lot of upgraded drivers at the moment so it's more of a waiting game
Exactly. You can’t compare software issues between steam deck and legion go right now considering the deck has been out for I believe about a year now and the legion go just launched at the end of October. So clearly steam has had way longer to throw out some updates and smooth things out. Can’t compare them and it’s not fair to make that the selling point
Great comparison. I am loving my combo of an OLED Switch with a 1 TB MicroSD card and my 64 GB Steam Deck I upgraded to a 1 TB SSD and a 1 TB MicroSD card. The Lenovo Legion Go is amazing for what it is but that price is too much for me. Both the Switch and the Steam Deck offer amazing value for money for gaming. The consistent support and updates from Valve have been amazing for the Steam Deck. With their 3.5 update they even found a way to improve the picture quality of the LCD screen. I am definitely not taking all this portable gaming goodness for granted.
Are you able to play starfield seamlessly?
I really wish the Steam Deck OLED had a Thunderbolt port. Why did they not do that in their revision? Would've made it the perfect device.
Your taking life for granted how much gaming do you do go outside
@@Majorpain32677 Not much gaming period. I work long hours at work. When I am home the wife or daughter is usually using our main TV so portable gaming has allowed me to actually play games and rediscover games I already owned but never got a chance to play. I am out everyday with work and sometimes go to work in the dark of the early morning and come back home in the dark of the evening and a lot of time I have work I have to bring home with me too. I definitely look forward to a little metal break with some gaming. Especially under Biden, I have really felt like I have been working more and earning less. I hope to take a much needed break with the family soon and I really hope more people wake up and see what is happening around them.
@@BarnzTT I have not played Starfield yet but from what I heard it is still not as optimized for the Deck as it could be.
Legion Go all day. Easy.
I have the steamdeck. And I love it.
Thank you
Having a guy that’s not into PC gaming review handheld PC devices makes no sense and also makes it easy to dismiss his opinion.
Definitely not the PS Portal.. It sucks
So far my experience with the Legion Go has been mostly good so far. It’s great not being chained down to steam. I’m also able to play GamePass games natively along with other launchers. And being able to play AAA games at higher resolutions and still maintaining playable frame rates is nice. (It’s my Baldur’s Gate 3 machine.) However, part of me still wonders if I would be happier with the Steam Deck. Most of my gaming library is in Steam. Plus the Legion go not having a sleep button to suspend my games like the Steam Deck and Nintendo switch does suck. As a father of a newborn, I only have time to game in spurts. So If I can’t save I’ll constantly have to lay the Legion go down and leave it running, plugged in until I can get back to it. I just wondered if the hit in performance is worth it.
Bro I have 3 kids and work 40 hours a week and have a very busy lifestyle. However, I usually game for an hour a night, so I feel you
After Legion Go, 5 minutes on steamdeck and realizing how limited you are on games will hit you pretty hard. SD OLED is not better but does make for a more portable solution with better battery life. Despite the names, it is better on the go than the legion go
you're not gonna be playing BG3 at 1600p, probably at 800p max. And I love playing my epic games on steam deck
@@ThompYThe can do 1080p
@@lilmisery1643 not in act 3 above 30
I’m actually glad someone without a pc gaming background reviewed it. My biggest hesitation to these devices is that it is too much of a pc. I play on consoles and i own a Mac, literally haven’t worked on a windows since I was a child.
and that's where these Windows-based gaming handhelds still fail. That it is still Windows and the OS isn't inherently touch-based or scales well for different resolutions. Coupled with having to tinker to make games run versus Steam Deck where you have the 'Verified' badge to be more console-like where games just work
I personally only use the steam deck with steam OS and aside for very light tinkering all works great. Many people use desktop mode and other game launchers and that’s great. Still crazy to me I replayed through cyberpunk 2077 on the go!
Same so I went with the steam deck oled. I LOVE IT!!! I’m just getting into the other things I can do. I am dual booting windows and steam so I can also have Xbox game pass on it as well.
This is actually really important. There really needs to be a clear - PC knowledges reviews and vids vs Comin from a console knowledge videos.
Cause pc.. the drives.. all that stuff is a headache even for those that know pc.. and it’s frustrating.. that’s were the steam deck does win - ease of use.. switch bigger w.. cause its just open game done.
So if legion really wants to target that MASSS switch console market.. they need to focus on easy asf useability.
So it’s 1000% important to have people that aren’t pc savvy to review this.
@@PJ-sv4iw100% agree. Thisi s the barrier.. pc windows is not easy for those that aren’t familiar.. and why, windows pc really can’t compete with steam deck.. no matter how powerful some are..
Too complicated for the average consumer.
I have both of these. The steam deck has easier accessibility and is way simpler to use but the Lenovo has more simple functionality. I can play MW3 and Fortnite on Lenovo very simple. For the steam deck I have to work around stuff to get stuff like Fortnite and MW3 running on there. The steam deck is amazing but limited, the Lenovo great but windows definitely causes it to have some flaws.
Microsoft is working on a Handheld mode with better UI for Windows.
windows has mod right something so called windows handheld gaming Skin?
Only LLG,much more possibilities, bigger screen, better performance, worth paying 100 $ more !!!
And that's the problem with the steam deck it uses Linux.
You can still install Windows 11 on it or dual boot.
Steam Deck
I yhink i would prefer the steam deck
4:21 why do you have messenges? Is this your first experience with Windows and Gaming? You know, you can deactivate the messenges and popups and you know the game mode!
its a biased review. take it with a pinch of salt.
It’s possible to install steam deck OS in the Lenovo one?
With enough tinkering, yes. But until there's an official release, having Steam Big Picture Mode on autostart in Windows is close enough.
wich is the best for monster hunter wilds
I'll sell my Nintendo Switch I've had since 2021 for a Steam Deck OLED in a heartbeat.
Why does everyone complain about the same things about the legion ITS A WINDOWS DEVICE. Is that a bad thing? NO does that mean it’s not as plug in and play as steam deck YES but the steam deck is SUPER limiting. By what games you can play because again of anti cheat software down to what apps you can download (like epic games) sure there’s work arounds but wasn’t the steam deck supposed to be the most plug in and play option? Overall go with your gut feeling if you know you don’t know much about tech go with the steam deck if you have some know how and wanna expand your knowledge get a legion I just swapped my steam deck out for a legion and I’ve been up since yesterday 😂👍
Steam deck is just a steam gaming console. Legion go is a full blown windows computer, also a windows tablet (removing the controllers), and a powerful pc multi platform gaming console. You can play Xbox game pass with it, also cloud gaming. Hardware wise is also much more powerful than the steam deck. So is much more value per money worth
Can they run autocad and sketchup?
What an interesting question
could you stream live on the levono
I feel like GPD started this
To a degree yes. Have you give them and aya neo credit
You compared the 512 gb deck to the 1tb go in price?
And the deck also had issues at launch.
Good vid 👌
This guy didn’t even mention the fact that the Legion Go is much more powerful than the SteamDeck or the fact that it has a 144hz display(although no vrr so kind of useless)
They probably gonna add vrr