How to Make a Shower Pan
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- DIY step by step instructions on how to build a mortar shower pan.
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Man thanks to this video specifically my pan came out way nicer than expected. Thank you so much for the thourough and entertaining video.
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Your a former devil dog? Semper Fi tufelhunden
Best common sense pan video I've seen yet
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I see you Lil cuz
Pro-tip: Keep back a gallon or so of the dry mix so that if you do accidentally over-water it, then you've got a bit of extra dry to work with.
I used this pro-tip last night and can confirm it saved my butt! Thanks!
Good one. Also read the bag. It will.tell you how much water. Pour 3/4 of.that right away(makes mixing easier)
Exactly
Question from a newbie, why do you need the mix to be so dry?
@@MrDusty66 The strength of the concrete varies with the amount of water in the mix. You need some water to get the concrete to an activated form so that all of it has some water to achieve close to maximum strength. As you add more water so that the concrete becomes sloppy or soupy, the finished strength drops off significantly.
I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to record this video and share your skills n tricks. The finished product looks perfect :)
Probably your best video yet. Showing each step was great stuff. Never enough of this information available. Looks good.
Beautifully done!!! Great process and best way to tackle a shower floor and protect the subfloor! 🙏
Ive been building pans,for yrs. I learned a few more tricks from you. You really made an exceptional how-too. Thank you.
Great Video, Semper Fi, plan on watching it till I memorize!
Sir, thank you so much for sharing your talent and thoughts regarding the shower pan . I’m 70 , and all my life I’ve been a DIY . The past 10 years however have taken quite a bit away from me . Body breaking down and such.. Having watched your video several times and taking notes , I’m prepared to redo the shower in our home by removing the tub and just having the shower. You have helped us tremendously. Thank you , once it’s completed. , I’ll send you before and after photos . Thanks again , you have been more than helpful, you have been very inspiring . Bless you and have a great day.. George
Thank you so much for that. That made my day! Please keep me updated.. I look forward to seeing the results!
Me too
@@SgtDonovan did he ever send before and afters ?? This inspired me along with your video to build the shower I was contemplating on paying someone to build just because I was scared to mess it up but I guess I won’t learn if I never try
Finally a video of the correct way to install the shower pan! And thanks for not forgetting the gravel for the drain weep holes!
Thank you, SgtDonovan - Your video was the one I kept coming back to, to build my first shower. I just finished grouting the whole thing yesterday. Really appreciate your help. :)
Thanks, Sarge! I've got to say I struggled to get my mortar consistency anywhere near yours. Always thought it was dry in the hopper and started smoothing it into soup. D'oh! I got it nailed down though after a little time to dry and will be tiling soon I hope. I sure appreciate your insight and happy belated Veterans Day!
By far the best video I've found on this subject! Thanks for the step by step and narration. After watching this I have much more confidence going into this!
Great video, thanks! I love the simple, "to the point" presentation without unnecessary talking.
Best/easiest to follow shower pan video on CZcams by far!! Thank you!!
I've just spent the last 4 hours racking my brain on how to do my first tile project in a basement, with the client willing to pay to let me learn, I said no 3 times to them, said to hire a professional tile person, because it would be $$$ to pay me to learn. I just finished much of the framing and drywall around the bathroom, and now to the curbless shower pan, you just explained to me WHY things are done, so that I can figure out the appropriate HOW for this situation. I just stopped myself from installing the backerboard prior to the shower pan pre slope on the concrete, im glad I did
Thank you very much for sharing this video. I am currently renovating my bathroom and I am worried I won't waterproof it enough and turn my house into a mush. I watched the Kerdi system over and over, including so many fails that I thought there must be a better way.
Great video, quality and sound. Thanks for posting this! I use to do tile work through college, but its been a while and I'm going to re-do our master shower soon so I needed a re-fresher, this was perfect!
Thanks for the great video! Would love to see how you would do this for a walk in shower floor!!! I have a 115 year old house and I’m making a huge bathroom with a walk-in. Terrible and few contractors in my area so decided to do it myself! 😁
Aug 2023, I decided to do my first DIY bathroom renovation and now I am watching videos in CZcams. I have a better idea of what to do now in my project. From one Sgt devil dog to another one, thank you and OoRah.
Hey thank you for an awesome video. I've watched hundreds literally and this is one of the best demo with details that I've seen. I'm a 20 year home remodeling guy so I've seen lots and done lots of projects. You are the man!!!
I followed you instructions 2 years ago and the shower pan on a custom shower is still holding up! No callbacks or complaints from customer
Very good instructional tutorial 👌. We will be doing a custom shower in our shabin (shed to cabin) and this video got me over the "where to start" hump. Thank you.
Finally. An instructional video that won't cause you to replace your shower a year later. That's the way a shower pan should be done! One installer to another, I tip my hat to you. I like to do do these same simple tricks...they make life easier.
Andrey Sheyfer j)
Great video. Proper installation video on shower pans is rare. So few installers do the initial mud job. It is critical to pitch the pan. So many failures are due to water sitting in the pan causing mold/mildew growth in grout joints. A thumbs up to you.
Why you did not use chicken wire?
Best video ever on CZcams. Didn’t missed a step.
None of the other videos shows installing tar paper on plywood.
The instructions on the mortar says not to place mortar directly on top of plywood . I’ve seen installers ignore this step.
I second the previous comment. Notch all the corner 2x6 before their installed.
Hey Sarge, this is the first I've seen of your work and it is really well done. I hope there is more.
Watching this video. Your skill seems like u got taught by someone OLD SCHOOL. YOUR SKILL IS AWESOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO HIRE SOMEONE. ANGIE-OHIO
Thank you a ton for taking the time to break this down and explain all the steps! Awesome video
Wow. What an excellent, informative, straightforward, video. No wasting time, great explanations, answered questions, explained exactly what was going on, including any "tips, tricks, or shortcuts"
I've watched a lot of remodel videos during the two years I've owned a fixer-upper. And this. This is the kind of content I really want to see.
He's military. I would expect no less. Don't dawdle... I hate that. Just cut to it. This is an A+ video.
Great instructional video. Well done. I've used this to put in 2 shower pans.
As a handyman I like to polish up the skill sets I already have. I love how simple this was and I know I can definitely achieve this now. Thanks for keeping it simple.
I appreciate it!
Co-worker shared this link with me and so glad she did. Appreciate you time in putting this together.
Great job! Excellent step by step very easy to follow! Thank you!
Great job.. glad I ran into your video...love the way you explain every move. And the kind of mortar used same to make a big difference in mine also
Nice video Sgt and thanks. I'm about 3/4 of the way through my custom pan build and I'm following you step by step. You did a great job of commenting of your recommendation for the material to use for the bed. Others had added their clarifications and so will I because I ran out of material on my first layer and had to run to the store and get more which isn't a real ideal scenario. My shower pan is 38'' by 72'' minus about a square foot for a side bench. I used 130lbs for my first pre slope and will probably use a little more material for my top coal so call it 140lbs. I made the mistake of sourcing and using the MAPI mud bed 55lb bags you got at $26 per bag. I also agree there is no benefit and if I did my whole project with that it would have been over $150. There are two better options. The yellow Quickrete Sand Topping mix is one. I ended up buying the T2 Quickrete Mortar Mix (GREEN BAGS) that comes in 80lb for $9 per bag. That will end up being $30 or $40 total in that material. Also, you will have a hard time and do not need to have your surface perfectly smooth and perfectly flat. Mine looks just like your finished layer but when you get right down at eye level its sand paper rough and thats okay because it'll be covered by the Oatey pan liner and then grout and tile on top layer. So don't try to be a perfectionist. Sgt's method works!
Very thorough explanations, good pace for viewing and allowing time to understand the steps involved. Thanks.
I really have to Sincerely Thank You for this excellent video. Being neither a plumber or mason, I learned a whole lot and now know how to approach a project I'm working on. Converting what was a storage space to a bathroom.
The narration was to the point and covered the critical steps without unnecessary commentary.
Really appreciate your great craftsmanship.
Continued success and Blessings!👍🏻
From a lot of research I have done, I have seen tilers doing duroc after the shower pan is done and not to install duroc within the pan but about a 1/4 to 1/2” above the pan
This guys a hack that did many wrong steps. He didn't level his parameters in order to screed (1/4 inch drop per square foot) off the drain which should be done during both mud steps in order to create the proper slope. He never did a 24 hour water test for his membrane install before he did his pan.The shower pan membrane he used was to short, it's supposed to wrap the curb completely and go up the walls roughly 6-9 inches past the pan. You're also required to use prefabricated corners where the membrane wraps the curb and wall which you chemical weld together to ensure full water resistance. You don't put any sort of backer board directly in the pan because it will wick water even with slope, should be at least an inch away and often times much higher if the walls will be floated. Didn't see any sort of red guard or other form of liquid based waterproofing, etc. It's like he made every error on purpose to make a "What not to do" video. Oh, and measuring off the ceiling to set a line for his pan in order to "correct" any slanting from tiles is literally is one of the most cringe worthy things I've ever see in a trades video. NO tile setter would alter his pan based of the ceiling because the pan slope is infinity more important that a few angled cuts close to the ceiling.
Coming from a master plumber…Great display of how it’s done!!
Best video out there on this topic. I’ve watched a ton and most want you to watch individual videos on every little part of the job where the guy spends 45 minutes explaining the specific job he is on which means nothing to us. Great job! Keep it up!
Alex Sutherland I appreciate the kind words.
Thank you so much....I will watch this many times...I am no longer afraid of the pan....very well done and very well explained.
The ONLY thing that bothered me is that you were not wearing a mask when you mixed the mud base....you only have one set of lungs and I am sure I speak for all of use...we need you man..
Thank you again for taking the time to do this....what an amazing talent you are...
Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video.
Great DIY instructions
Thank you
Best video I've seen. Here in South Africa we don't generally build this way, so finding this kind of information is so difficult. Thank you.
You are a G. One of the best how tos I have seen! Love how consistent and thorough you are. Thank You!
Excellent delivery. Calm and instructional. Building a shower pan I find very intimidating but this helps a lot. Thank you
Couldn’t agree more with this comment. Nicely done Sgt Donovan!
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fantastic video and descriptions of details. Thank you.
Currently in the process of redoing our shower and I have watched and rewatched this so many times. It has made this process so much easier to do!! Thank you for the quality content!
This is the best instructional video on how to install a mortar pan. Thank you
Thanks for the good detailed orderly explanation.
About to start this project myself - excellent video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. Very well done!
It’s been a year since you did your own shower. How is it working out? Have you found any leaking? I’m just curious. Thanks in advance for your feedback!
One of the better videos I've seen, really good explanation
This is gold. Thank you
Solid work dude, thanks for the tutoring
By the far the most simple and concise video out there.
Sgt Donovan, First off Thank You for your service! Secondly thank you for your video it was pretty much what I had in mind to do but it was very reaffirming! Best video I've watched on shower pans!SSgt Pennock
Thank you!
This is exactly what I needed. Best pan installation video I've seen so far and I have seen a lot. Now I feel confident to do my shower floor
I agree! Thanks SgtDonovan for this very helpful video!
How did it go? Were you successful?
I literally referred to this video like 10 times. Thank you. Best video on CZcams for this
The best explanation I have ever seen thank you man!
Installed many pans and I never used rocks for weep holes. That makes sense. Thanks, you made a good video.
Love your videos, really helpful!
Best video I've seen. Great instruction. Thank you!
Great job on the drain with cutting x over the bolts and having liner go into the drain that’s the way it should be done!!
One trick I’ve learned when using a square drain....screw in an old round drain with the top of the drain being the top of the mortar bed. Pack tight flush with the top of the drain. Then take a piece of wood with two screws a couple inches apart or a pair of needle nose, etc, to help unscrew the drain about a 1/8 or 1/4” higher than pan, smooth around drain using the edge of the rim as a guide against trowel. Once smooth, continue to totally unscrew round drain and then install square drain down to accommodate tile thickness/mortar. This can always be adjusted up/down.
Wow your comment helped me out... I did it and it worked... Thanks you!!
Damn, wish I had seen that before I threw my old one away. Will a 2” pvc male adapter work? I could make a top.
Excellent video, sir. Clear shots of what matters and good step-by-step installation. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for such a great video ,so well explained and detailed. Ty
Thank you. Fantastic and so helpful.
Hi just came across this video. Thank you so much for making it. A lot of good details and commentary. Thanks again.
Solid work there bud. Keep it up!
Best video I ever watched, complete tutorial, thank you, need to watch how you install tiles on
Semper fi, thanks for this man!
Really good video. Just what I needed. Thanks!
I love just listening and watching you work. Very relaxing! Another video recommends placing the cement board up so it does not touch the final mortar bed, paint everything with waterproof membrane, then do the floor tile. This way the floor does not touch the cement board on the wall at all. I am redoing an old 1950's tile shower floor pan. I am trying to save all but the bottom 6 inches of the old tile.
I watched that same video yesterday and then used it as a reference while watching this one to compare the different methods. Was wondering if that guy was going to chime in the comment section with some critiques.
@@TheBvirgilio86 I don't see any disadvantage of raising the cement board an inch or so off the pan, and a lot of potential advantages. I think modern code does not require waterproofing of the shower walls if you use cement board, but many people seem to recommend it. Maybe it is to make up for poor tiling technique that leaves voids behind the tiles? Old school, it was just really thick mortar and lathe, double the thickness of modern cement board, it did not extend into the pan, and it lasted 65 years and counting. Nowadays, people tear out perfectly good showers because they look "dated" after 20 years. No need to make them last longer than necessary!
This video is very helpful . Thanks for sharing.
that is lots of work. Great job man.
You did great on this video thanks buddy
Thank you for this video, it's the best video on a shower pan
Best explanation on CZcams..
Thanks from Volunteer State😄
Made me really believe I can do this myself thank you!
Good video I screwed up and put in tile shower without a pan so I had to rip floor up and picked your video to do this project yours was the best explained thank you
I went to like this video and saw it was already liked! Didn't realize I saw it before even after watching the whole video again. Thank you for what you shared.
Thank you for the video , it does make me feel like we can do this ourselves. also thank you for showing some of the other ways to keep the slope.
Nice job Sgt, I will start my shower pan today and I will do it right thanks to you, Nice video, Thanks again.
I always use a McDonald’s sweet tea cup to dip and pour my water. Makes it easier to control. Great work brother.
Semper Fi. This is exactly what I was looking for! I'm sure you made it look a lot easier than it really is. Thanks
Great information I appreciate the time you have taken .
YES. you are the man. all the other videos I watched assumed I knew a whole bunch of stuff that I certainly did not and left my head spinning. I am going to embark upon a shower building adventure very soon thanks to your video - you cleared up a lot of things for me - subscribed!
Thanks so much! Good luck on your project and don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions.
Wow! Great video...after watching I've decided to buy a cast iron porcelain shower pan for our remodel job. My old Medicare knees can't do this. Now I understand the attention to detail to do the job right.
Thank you for taking the time to make this instructional video- it is giving me confidence to do it myself! Pray for me. LOL
very nice work sir, learned a lot,thank you
Thank you for this very helpful video I'm going to attempt this in a bathroom we're redoing
Best video I’ve seen about a this particular subject….by far. Good job, bro.
Good job! There's more than one way to it, but I like to see how other professionals do it their way. One thing that I could suggest after the liner is installed, I add a 1/4" wood shim from the top of the liner to the ceiling on each stud. You can buy them premade or rip some from a 2"x4"x8' board. This will eliminate the kick out at the bottom giving you a straight wall from floor to ceiling. (Do not place a screw below the shim when installing your concrete board.) I hope that this was helpful. Keep up the good work!
Hi,
I was reading your comment and as a lifelong carpenter im,always looking for better ways to,do things but i dis not understand your explanation of the whole 1/4 shim idea
Could you clarify
Thank you
@@vincent7543 The shim keeps your cement board from kicking out at the bottom where you have the liner .It makes the walls more plum for your tile work
@@myronsmith2114 especially in the corners where liner is folded , "Great idea" !
On other install vids they said to not set your wall board inside your pan as it will leach water up then mold.
Looks good. Only things that I do different is in the corners where you fold the liner when you don't have that gap to tuck it into the wall I just chisel a notch to recess it enough to where it wont affect the durock
Yep notch them studs 10inches 1/4
This is exactly what I needed to see. Thanks.
great tutorial, thanks
Excellent job.
Great video great woodworking. Great job
Excellent my brother I appreciate this,,,
This was extremely informative,,,
A lot more to it than my old ass thought,,
Plus you don't have to believe the earth is flat for it to be flat have a great day..