One of the best reviews I've seen! You bring concrete examples and explanations for a wide range of aspects of the kite and how it feels. I hope you continue!
The Duotone inflation system is inferior to other brands. Even the adapter doesn't work well cuz the rubber washer starts opening up and lets air out as you're inflating. Also the sail develops these tiny little creases and micro cracks much sooner than other brands. It's too bad Ocean Ordeo couldn't develop a kite like this when they had the lead with Aluula. (The Rise isn't as easy jumping as EVO)
Any comparisons between your Orbit and Evo Dlab for bar pressure, hang time and boosting height?! (I have Orbits too and this kite is a contender) Thanks!
For me the Orbit has lighter bar pressure and offers a bit more stable loops and hang time. The Evo pulls more during the loop which can be either nice (if you like the pull) or can make learning tricks a bit more difficult. The fact that the Orbits loops easily without that much pull can really help for learning kiteloop variations. I'd say test the kite and find out for yourself! The DLAB is more playfull and allround but for now I'm sticking with my Orbit. Cheers, Marijn
I'm wondering if you felt a bit strange the steering of the kite? as your left side of the bar is set on "Big bar" and your right side on "Small bar", or there is a reason you set it like that? I'm really wondering because I see so many people setting the Trust bar this way.
The bar was setup wrong but it doesn't impact the flying that much. In the end I rode the kite a couple times with another bar and there wasn't that much of a difference. I set the bar up on that 45 knots session so I think the nerves played a role haha, then again if the bar comes setup straight out of the box (also including a chickenloop) that would've been nice haha
@@spacexkitesurfing3634 good than :) I remember long time ago when the first Dice from North(at that time) came out, and a dealer from North told me how this kite is amazing.. while flying the kite he gave it to me to go for a ride, and the kite was definitely steering on one side, I told him that something feels wrong and the bar looks strange, then he said "aaa this is why the kite was pulling on one side".. kite dealer😅
If you compare the same size tear on Alula vs SLS that alula is going to be more expensive. What makes Alula different is that it's way less likely for the kite to have a complete blowout if there is a small tear in the LE.
It's the coating on the canope changing colors, there is a dutch article that you can translate and read about kite canope and the chalking effect here ridersguide.nl/de-ontwikkeling-van-het-kitedoek/
I think the tear and wear you mention is common for Duotone fabric as it is just the coating of the fabric that creates these creases. Its not actually wear of the fabric itself, I have noticed it as I fly Duotone for a while already. I have the D/Lab and I am enjoying them, but need to get used to them as I am stepping over from Dices. I liked the loop better on the Dice so far.
Yes its not the fabric breaking but the coating going white. It's called chalking and it happens to more brands/materials. As said it wont affect the performance that much but it impacts resale value as it shows the use of the kite a lot more
Can't wait for Orbit vs Nitro video! Would be cool to see the Rise vs Evo D lab too!
One of the best reviews I've seen! You bring concrete examples and explanations for a wide range of aspects of the kite and how it feels. I hope you continue!
The Duotone inflation system is inferior to other brands. Even the adapter doesn't work well cuz the rubber washer starts opening up and lets air out as you're inflating. Also the sail develops these tiny little creases and micro cracks much sooner than other brands. It's too bad Ocean Ordeo couldn't develop a kite like this when they had the lead with Aluula. (The Rise isn't as easy jumping as EVO)
Two things Duotone need to get rid of...the Airport Valve Inflation/deflate port and the High V on the bar.
amen.
Such nice kites, but that valve is just a pain in the ass that's designed to fail.
Appreciate the objective review which mentioning negative points. Excited for more!
Any comparisons between your Orbit and Evo Dlab for bar pressure, hang time and boosting height?!
(I have Orbits too and this kite is a contender)
Thanks!
Same here. Please, share a few words on this topic
For me the Orbit has lighter bar pressure and offers a bit more stable loops and hang time. The Evo pulls more during the loop which can be either nice (if you like the pull) or can make learning tricks a bit more difficult. The fact that the Orbits loops easily without that much pull can really help for learning kiteloop variations. I'd say test the kite and find out for yourself! The DLAB is more playfull and allround but for now I'm sticking with my Orbit.
Cheers, Marijn
@@spacexkitesurfing3634 Thank you for sharing. Can you also compare the boosting height?
Definitely keep reviews coming! Love that type of content
Love the VPRO quip at the (retro)intro.
I'm wondering if you felt a bit strange the steering of the kite? as your left side of the bar is set on "Big bar" and your right side on "Small bar", or there is a reason you set it like that?
I'm really wondering because I see so many people setting the Trust bar this way.
I asked in dutch. The answer: That’s the SpaceX radical loop mode
@@fver9 I knew they are professional 💪😅
The bar was setup wrong but it doesn't impact the flying that much. In the end I rode the kite a couple times with another bar and there wasn't that much of a difference. I set the bar up on that 45 knots session so I think the nerves played a role haha, then again if the bar comes setup straight out of the box (also including a chickenloop) that would've been nice haha
@@spacexkitesurfing3634 good than :)
I remember long time ago when the first Dice from North(at that time) came out, and a dealer from North told me how this kite is amazing.. while flying the kite he gave it to me to go for a ride, and the kite was definitely steering on one side, I told him that something feels wrong and the bar looks strange, then he said "aaa this is why the kite was pulling on one side".. kite dealer😅
my left ear enjoyed this
Cool! More reviews on equipment such as boards and other knowledge are welcome. Very helpful 👍
Flown the 8m Neo Dlab, omg its so good compared to dacron kites, way more wind range, super light weight, Dlab is for sure worth the extra money.
I had the same frustration with the new inflation system but once you understand it, it’s actually much better system than any other
I never ever opened it since I have my d lab kites …. 9m Neo, 12m Neo , 15m juice ….. amazing kites . Best of all I ever had
Very good video, well explained!
Hey, when you had to pick a model, Orbit 23 or Evo Dlab? And do you think 11m and 8m would be a good two kite strategy for 77kg?
8m and 11m is a great choice, the Orbit you could go to a 12m even I think.
Did You have a chance to test new Xr pro and how is it compare to evo dlab??
I'm keen to see you compare this to the new Reedin Hypermodel.
Really insightful, keep it up!
what bar size have You ride with 9m size?
Nice and honest review.
Nice review! Good job !!
nicely made man!
you mention the repair is less expensive. but seems that alula is much harder to repair at the end. so not sur it will be cheaper in case of hole.
Huh .... Allula is actually more expensive than SLS
If you compare the same size tear on Alula vs SLS that alula is going to be more expensive. What makes Alula different is that it's way less likely for the kite to have a complete blowout if there is a small tear in the LE.
nice review
What sort of wear was that in the trailing edge. It looked like a crease to me or was it stretch ?
Might be the white fibre lines as in stretch ? Hes made a point that should not happen on any new kite with 6 sessions..
@@Cadburydrams yeh de f not I have owned core and Duotone and felt that core was higher quality
It's the coating on the canope changing colors, there is a dutch article that you can translate and read about kite canope and the chalking effect here ridersguide.nl/de-ontwikkeling-van-het-kitedoek/
@@spacexkitesurfing3634 interesting - ive noticed similar thing on EVO SLS, which has had many sessions but not even touched the water yet.
How does it compare to XR7 for boost height and hangtime?
The XR has more boost and hangtime for sure! But it sacrifices alot in the loops
Does not even compare, it would be like pee wee Herman vs Mandingo.
What's real special is when the center lines or pig tails snap. A Duotone thing!
Your audio is only on the left side, bru
Its a fact than most of duotone valves are failing. No matter theyre on warranty.
Precisa melhorar a barra agora, se desgasta muito rapido
where exactly is the wear and tear? the creases?
ahh duotone again never failing to disappointing. so much BS on this brand. I'm a duotone user!
I think the tear and wear you mention is common for Duotone fabric as it is just the coating of the fabric that creates these creases.
Its not actually wear of the fabric itself, I have noticed it as I fly Duotone for a while already.
I have the D/Lab and I am enjoying them, but need to get used to them as I am stepping over from Dices. I liked the loop better on the Dice so far.
Yes its not the fabric breaking but the coating going white. It's called chalking and it happens to more brands/materials. As said it wont affect the performance that much but it impacts resale value as it shows the use of the kite a lot more
Kisi ko wholesale rates me kite chahiye ho to bataiye
Goeie review
$3,899.00 AUD just for the kite alone and $4,099.00 for the Juice D/Lab lol. Hard Pass !!
for that price it would be way better to get the ocean rodeo rise.. its a better kite and has a better inflate valve.. i hate duotone valves
please review @Lieuweboards Falcon! top of the top of carbon boards!