The Best and Worst Extreme Demons in Geometry Dash

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  • čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
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    Can't wait for the community reaction to this. Since as far as I know this is the only attempt at actually trying to rate levels with a standard out there unlike pretty much every other lists that are all based off feelings, you have to deal with a title like this. GD people give creating advice based on what they think is right which is the worst thing you can do for anything art-related. That being said, creative processes aren't something you can rate objectively but artist expression has a product, an intent, a target etc etc so of course that will be subjective to some extent. I have attempted as well as I can to keep this in mind for listing the following levels and yeah, there are definitely some levels that are better, stupidly bland or some of the worst extremes of all time.
    Anyways, here is the result of me spending countless hours on streams rating every extreme demon in this game, alongside the final summary of what majority of all extreme demons have an issue with.
    Music used:
    Afraid This Time (Instrumental) - Celldweller
    • Afraid This Time (Inst...
    Penumbra Trilogy Soundtrack - Mikko Tarmia
    www.mikkotarmia.com/
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Komentáře • 816

  • @Stormfly
    @Stormfly  Před 2 lety +1078

    "Hell Series guy rating levels, lol"
    "I love how he hates on good levels when he can't even make a good one himself"
    "Hate War verifier saying a level sucks lol"
    "You can't objectively rate levels, I enjoy these levels and you don't, that's just your opinion"
    "You're rating extreme demons and you didn't even beat them? LOL"
    "Stormfly rolls worst opinion of all time"
    "Me beating a level qualifies how good a level is, my opinion is better and more valuable than yours"

  • @ideac.
    @ideac. Před 2 lety +1031

    Finally someone mentioned the incredibly generic and bland extreme demons that are probably part of 80% of the list

    • @w1llrg
      @w1llrg Před 2 lety +30

      yeah most are so forgettable

    • @olinolivia
      @olinolivia Před 2 lety +44

      "probably" because they forgot what they look like

    • @celineum
      @celineum Před 2 lety +2

      ily

    • @staringcorgi6475
      @staringcorgi6475 Před 2 lety +8

      @@w1llrg exactly everybody remembers yata but not those

    • @icewings_intotheclouds
      @icewings_intotheclouds Před 2 lety +7

      tf do you mean "finally someone mentioned"? have u been on gdyt or gdtwt for like 5 minutes?

  • @skywalker14
    @skywalker14 Před 2 lety +339

    thank you so much for adding my level in the top 5 best extremes! I've been a fan of your content for a while, and this truly means a lot to me

    • @itsorenji
      @itsorenji Před 2 lety +15

      I am putting flowers in a crappy layout as I speak. Flowers are underrated.

    • @9eternal
      @9eternal Před 2 lety +7

      most levels are just hell or generic, so something unique like flowers would be really nice ngl

    • @HumilityJah
      @HumilityJah Před 2 lety +1

      Mid

  • @huvarda
    @huvarda Před 2 lety +341

    Just wanted to say I like the usage of the "slow clap" sound effect for the bland ones, it fits the aura of "it's not horrible i guess but i didn't like it and can't remember it" well

    • @GrifGrey
      @GrifGrey Před 2 lety +20

      I thought they were playing Tennis

    • @minjomighty7871
      @minjomighty7871 Před 2 lety +14

      I also like the faint cough sound effect in the background, it made me laugh the first time lol

    • @zt3853
      @zt3853 Před 2 lety +2

      @@GrifGrey 💀

    • @RaivoRJ
      @RaivoRJ Před rokem

      bruh i thought it was a loud clock

    • @_kb2110_
      @_kb2110_ Před 4 měsíci

      i thought it was slow mouse clicks

  • @AeonAir
    @AeonAir Před 2 lety +538

    Wonderful video with lots of funny bits. Great job, stormy

    • @Qisth75
      @Qisth75 Před 2 lety +3

      Yo Aeon what you doin?

    • @woopro1234
      @woopro1234 Před 2 lety +4

      Wo it's aeonair omg I'm shaking rn

    • @Delm0s
      @Delm0s Před 2 lety +3

      3rd comment, anyways what do you think will your next extreme be?

    • @carmenloriente9571
      @carmenloriente9571 Před 2 lety +4

      Hi Aeowon Aiwe

    • @Delm0s
      @Delm0s Před 2 lety +1

      @@carmenloriente9571 simp?

  • @itsorenji
    @itsorenji Před 2 lety +625

    It’s quite obvious that you’re growing tired of GD and honestly I welcome it. Mocking the community isn’t done enough for the fear of them getting mad and whilst others certainly do it, it’s still refreshing to see. It was great watching you rate these on stream and I had a good chuckle over this video. Good work stormfly!

  • @arb8881
    @arb8881 Před 2 lety +90

    SHOWCASING THE BLAND LEVELS IS SO CHAD

    • @arb8881
      @arb8881 Před 2 lety +33

      also i genuinely believe being bland is worse than being bad, even bad levels have their place in the game.

    • @powgie7
      @powgie7 Před 2 lety +3

      @@arb8881 I guess it depends. I mean, in terms of decoration maybe? (It's kinda subjective), but in terms of gameplay being bland could even be an advantage since some of the most fun levels in the game are bland gameplay wise.

    • @_kb2110_
      @_kb2110_ Před 4 měsíci

      @@arb8881bad levels are bad but might actually be rememberable unlike bland ones

  • @LastPrismAlex
    @LastPrismAlex Před 2 lety +103

    amazing video, and an amazing way to explain a serious issue levels have nowadays, there's soooo many cool things you can do in the editor, yet creators still stick to the generic glow style or just an overall "good enough" style, probably because they want to secure getting rates, so it becomes a matter of "make it pretty to get it rated" than treating the level as an art piece.
    never be afraid to experiment, have fun with your levels, it's not always about getting rates or becoming popular, make your level stand out, make people remember it!

    • @ChippieX
      @ChippieX Před 2 lety +8

      The rating system in this game seems to just make everything worse. So many new creators start with the goal of getting one rated level, which leads them towards something that will get rated rather than something unique. The connection between unoriginality and the rating system has grown so much more obvious to me recently, and it's a bit sad to see it.

    • @Y99992
      @Y99992 Před rokem

      It’s hard to do that if your not a good creator like me :( I want to have my first rated level. Not for CP but just because I want people to play it and enjoy it. And it’s just so cool having a rated level on your profile

    • @Y99992
      @Y99992 Před rokem

      I’m working on a level that hopefully could be rate worthy

    • @Anxmaly666
      @Anxmaly666 Před rokem +1

      i totally agree with this. i pretty much had this same thought since i started playing GD and keep in mind what was 2 years ago. nothing really changed and if anything it probably is getting worse

  • @addisonjudah
    @addisonjudah Před 2 lety +194

    I love how this video doesn't try to appeal to the community, its just a personal video and I really like that. There are so many videos that don't take risks for fear of angering the community, but this video doesn't do that at all

  • @Thuwunder
    @Thuwunder Před 2 lety +47

    I pretty much agree with almost everything in this video. It's a sad reality people just do "enough" for a rate instead of opening their mind and use the editor with more creativity.
    We got to a point where a "generic", "bland", a level that does "enough" for a rate is considered impressive for half the community; and while it's all still a matter of subjectivity, I just personally think you should make your level stand out instead of just being "satisfied" with your secured rate when it's a style we've all seen hundreds of times.
    A rated level would stay in the game forever, but how many will remember it? Do "average" creators think about this? Do they only want the creator points reward for it? Do they only want their level to be placed on the list?

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +2

      the issue is that with extreme demons, oftentimes people care more about a level's placement on the demons list than the level itself. That's why theres so many community members wanting vsc/ttv rated even though they are beyond dogshit as levels. That's why something as aesthetically disgusting as abyss of darkness got a rate. Until people stop circlejerking over the demon list extreme demons will never get better, since their entire existence in the community's mind is to be hard, not good. I literally saw someone on twitter argue that extreme demons shouldn't even need to be decorated to be rateworthy, because "if you want a level that looks good just play 8 star levels"

  • @ideac.
    @ideac. Před 2 lety +188

    After 3 years or so, i still think Removed Submission is one of the best extreme demons in the game

  • @AlexGMD
    @AlexGMD Před 2 lety +42

    Excited to not see the usually Thinking space, Conical depression, and Sonic wave end to the list that we are all so used to. I agree that those are all bad levels but they actually feel like they have some life in them, unlike escentia or rate demon.

    • @Rigel0
      @Rigel0 Před rokem +2

      conical depression is objectively worse, no? Everything esencia has, conical depression doesn't

    • @DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS
      @DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS Před 9 měsíci

      conical depressions minimalism is far more interesting than escencia, as is its horrific gp@@Rigel0

  • @razman5993
    @razman5993 Před 2 lety +48

    This video gave me huge Zero Punctuation vibes and I highly enjoyed it! It was honestly amazing following you along this journey on Twitch and even though it caused you a great deal of pain and suffering, it was enjoyable to hear your thought processes and truly eye-opening to realize the state of the community in general. We had some laughs, held some deep and though-provoking conversations, and shed many figurative tears. I'll forever remember those crazy streams and can't wait to see what you come up with next, with CZcams and GD in general!

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +4

      that "add as many flowers as you like" "I will" gag was directly inspired by zp, if I recall correctly a mgs episode

    • @dlanightfury
      @dlanightfury Před rokem

      Agreed, there’s a decent few lines taken from zp and they work really well here

  • @totendestro585
    @totendestro585 Před 2 lety +59

    Theres nothing better than hearing Stormfly rants.

  • @blexpert7168
    @blexpert7168 Před 2 lety +28

    This is the reason I like levels like Thinking Space and Conical depression. They are bad but they stand out. Standing out is important for a level even if the level itself is bad.

    • @charKT-7461
      @charKT-7461 Před 2 lety +19

      Conical depression doesn’t stand out to me. It’s just a glorified recent-tab challenge level. It has KrmaL privilege, that’s it

  • @eresball5413
    @eresball5413 Před 2 lety +16

    I don’t understand why people are complaining about the things you say are objective standards of a level.
    Gameplay could be judged objectively by execution. A bug, unnecessary timing, skippable part, secret ways are objective flaws that one can point out.
    Decoration-While judging themes and intent of a level is subjective, judging the execution of an intent or theme is objective. Storm points out technical aspects like color balance, depth and detail which are objective elements.
    Originality is objective of course. If the creator put popular trends in their level you can easily point it out. You can also tell if a level did something that was almost never done before. Something interesting to point out is that while originality is objective, the originality of an element of a level changes and becomes less original when it becomes a trend.
    Music representation and Sync-This one I disagree with. People interpret songs differently so it’s subjective whether a level represents a song well or not. Sync however is an objective standard to latch on to when talking about how well a song is represented, because an off sync click, movement, pulse or whatever else in a level are objective flaws. Even if you think how the player moves doesn’t represent the sound well, if both of them perfectly align that could be measured therefore making it objective.
    Storm didn’t outright say his opinion is the objective one, he’s just saying he tried to be as objective as he can and did that by judging levels with the objective elements mentioned. It’s not a perfect system to judge whether a level is good or not and these aren’t the only things to judge a level by but it’s a good way to measure how technically good a level is.

    • @wisteqs6644
      @wisteqs6644 Před 4 měsíci

      yeah
      that's interesting to point out
      im also surprised i liked many of the lvls he mentioned
      (or at least some aspects of them (typically some designs)..
      and yes.. even the "worst lvls")

  • @necr0mancrr
    @necr0mancrr Před 2 lety +50

    I like these kinds of lists but I think it’s kind of pretentious to call this one more objective than others. Even the categories you brought up could probably be interpreted wildly differently by different people. Good video but I’d say still pretty subjective.

    • @xStarz05
      @xStarz05 Před 2 lety +11

      Yeah this is highly subjective lol

    • @powgie7
      @powgie7 Před 2 lety +8

      Ofc it is expected for it to have biases as you would guess, but at the end of the day if you use certain standards it is to expect that it will be more objective than other lists which end up being by what the people there like the most.

    • @matthewl5434
      @matthewl5434 Před 2 lety +3

      i asssume it's sarcasm with that remark

    • @wisteqs6644
      @wisteqs6644 Před 4 měsíci

      yeah im ngl
      im just 2/3rd thru the vid right now but
      i like that he was able to voice and talk about what he thinks about levels and such
      but maann i kinda (really) feel like i disagree with at least like.. 15%-39% of the things he's saying..
      (yeah prob not too totally objective.. cuz aren't the popular opinions wildly different from 'some' of his takes?)
      (if you want let me know what you think with like some examples or somethn cuz i really feel like this dude has 'some' hot takes in this video)
      update: for the end of the video
      i kinda like/agree (or at least find it interesting) with some of the main-points/perspective of his overview speech after rating all levels
      (He was saying that he prefers or that he believes it is be better that a level is to be remembered and bad via experimentation than for a level to be forgettable because its bland. Or something like that.. )

  • @daikonic
    @daikonic Před 2 lety +39

    i completely agree with that thought at the end, too many creators are just too scared to actually create something that can stand out from the average glow level and it disappoints me. sure you can say “x level is bad” but at least you can say stuff about it. a bland level brings nothing to a conversation other than “oh yeah that was a thing” and it just ends up being another level on the pile of many other levels.
    great video btw, can tell a lot of effort has been put on this.

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +4

      the issue is that with extreme demons, oftentimes people care more about a level's placement on the demons list than the level itself. That's why theres so many community members wanting vsc/ttv rated even though they are beyond dogshit as levels. That's why something as aesthetically disgusting as abyss of darkness got a rate. Until people stop circlejerking over the demon list extreme demons will never get better, since their entire existence in the community's mind is to be hard, not good. I literally saw someone on twitter argue that extreme demons shouldn't even need to be decorated to be rateworthy, because "if you want a level that looks good just play 8 star levels"

    • @blackmad2000
      @blackmad2000 Před 2 lety +2

      @@akanta5746 I agree.

  • @Zapdos0145
    @Zapdos0145 Před 2 lety +68

    what a good concept,
    sometimes being “okay” is what makes it “good” if everything is unique what’s unique anyway

    • @Wespdx
      @Wespdx Před 2 lety +8

      W

    • @NotFine
      @NotFine Před 2 lety +4

      I really don’t think you know what unique is
      Unique isn’t just like “hey let’s make a para-like level”

    • @petarblazevic1954
      @petarblazevic1954 Před 2 lety +2

      @@NotFine it seems that nowadays it is

  • @Royale9
    @Royale9 Před 2 lety +9

    GD is oversaturated with extremes. Feels like nowadays they're mostly built because they get the most attention of all ratings.
    Many creators sadly lack the knowledge of player behaviour on different surfaces and positions, hitboxes and variety of gameplay decisions. They aren't mainly players and create what "feels" right.
    Since Rob is rating them because they look decent everyone in the community is suffering. Well, the rating system is another topic.

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +1

      absolutely That's why theres so many community members wanting vsc/ttv rated even though they are beyond dogshit as levels. That's why something as aesthetically disgusting as abyss of darkness got a rate. Until people stop circlejerking over the demon list extreme demons will never get better, since their entire existence in the community's mind is to be hard, not good. I literally saw someone on twitter argue that extreme demons shouldn't even need to be decorated to be rateworthy, because "if you want a level that looks good just play 8 star levels"

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ERRR0RR please elaborate on how it is awesome without talking about difficulty.

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ERRR0RR Deco: those "bushes and moss" you describe are literally the default gd grass blocks colored black, literally anyone can make that. Block design is basic beyond belief and the few original structures are copy and pasted to oblivion. The only reason why people think the deco is good is because 70% of the screen is obscured by black glow. If the glow was removed you would see how ugly the base level is.
      Gameplay: I literally asked to "describe it without saying how hard it is" and you ended up justifying gameplay based on how hard it is LMAO. wave spam and timings are part and parcel of extreme challenges. It's not unique, period.
      Song: I quite like the song as well but to suggest that this level has any resemblence of click sync is laughable. Go play an actual rhythm game and come back to tell me that this level is synced.
      Honestly even ttv is better than vsc. TTV has an unique style of deco and an unique take on its song. VSC is a generic glowy dark level that others have done before and done better.

  • @tundra77
    @tundra77 Před 2 lety +19

    I’d love to see you make more content ranking things, especially since your sense of humor fits so well with it

  • @SilvowGD
    @SilvowGD Před 2 lety +44

    Nice video, it was definitely useful to rate the demons using 4 separate categories other than only one. I like this style of content :)

  • @FlamingTX
    @FlamingTX Před 2 lety +14

    It's ironic that the blandest and worst extreme demon is one of my favorite extreme while the best extreme is meh to me
    I like ecensia because of the song and effect
    that's why I love making layout effect now, even with the most basic effevt you could've imagined
    while shockbreaker just the song, nothing more
    and dole damos the deco
    I think I have a bad taste

  • @Komatic5
    @Komatic5 Před 2 lety +18

    It’s so funny how many of these I agree with, I was so happy to see Myocardia there lol

  • @xypnosii
    @xypnosii Před 2 lety +26

    This man got called based once and took it to a whole other level

  • @russianwaffle5976
    @russianwaffle5976 Před 2 lety +10

    the Panasonic commentary is some of the funniest and truest commentary to grace the gd community

  • @Silent_YES
    @Silent_YES Před 2 lety +7

    "oh c'mon Stormfly, you probably can remember something if you tried"
    "Uhhhhhh, it's blue"

  • @every_eve
    @every_eve Před 2 lety +7

    Awesome video, loved the new style of the voice over as it was very entertaining. You never disappoint

  • @PokerBingo
    @PokerBingo Před 2 lety +7

    Very nice video. I very much feel the Zero Punctuation inspiration in this.
    "Bland" is definitely what i call a lot of levels i come across. Not even "unoriginal", because even an unoriginal level can be good, imo (for example, nine circles)

  • @potato4521
    @potato4521 Před 2 lety +5

    “It uses speed changers about as consistent as pigeon shit in London.”
    Bro you killed me with this 💀
    I also had trouble typing this I am laughing so hard rn help.

  • @3cstasy7410
    @3cstasy7410 Před 2 lety +23

    I agree with most of this list. Thank you for calling out Vendetta, it's truly god-awful. I also appreciate the inclusion of Myocardia which is really underrated, and I'm glad someone else realizes how boring Esencia is. The only thing I would disagree with is that I actually like Tempest Tornado and Shock Breaker, but other than that, I couldn't agree more.

  • @Fyre-Yak
    @Fyre-Yak Před 2 lety +2

    I like the changeup in terms of editing quality for this video. It's actually quite good and I'm glad to see many more edit techniques being used for each video that comes out. Great work Storm! 👍

  • @Baylow
    @Baylow Před 2 lety +2

    im impressed at your commitment to this video concept and willingness to try out this kind of content, id love to hear your thoughts on the infatuation this specific community has with remaking old works endlessly if you have any. this counts as a video idea suggestion i think

  • @sethdash1906
    @sethdash1906 Před 2 lety +4

    Nice to see this out congrats on finishing this stormfly!

  • @mortomultiverse8778
    @mortomultiverse8778 Před rokem +8

    5:19 This UNDERGROUND artist doesn't NEED Autotune 🔥🔥🔊😱

  • @DoctorBleach1
    @DoctorBleach1 Před 2 lety +14

    I'd argue the bland ones are worse than the bad ones, at least I feel something when I see the bad ones
    edit: damn I read your mind

  • @zphysixx9649
    @zphysixx9649 Před 2 lety +8

    I swear this will spark a revolution in gd content this was hilarious
    Good job stormfly, ur prob one of the best gd content creators atm

  • @notakae7089
    @notakae7089 Před 2 lety +2

    I really enjoy the way you presented this video. It has a lot more personality than most of your other videos (which is fair, since a lot of them are documentaries). I like it. Thumbs Up

  • @qperr1993
    @qperr1993 Před 2 lety +7

    this video was some of the most entertaining GD content i've watched in a while, well done. stormfly doesn't miss.

  • @culobdj
    @culobdj Před 2 lety +1

    this was incrediably entertaining to watch, I'm really loving this style of video. I would love to watch you rant about recent extremes or do a creator analysis and talk about what you like and hate about those levels in this type of video style, its really fun to watch.

    • @culobdj
      @culobdj Před 2 lety +1

      on that note: would you be interested on giving your opinion on the unrated demons list

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +1

      @@culobdj the unrated demons list is literally the demonslist with even more blandness, which is an impressive feat considering 92% of demonslist levels are bland

    • @culobdj
      @culobdj Před 2 lety +1

      @@akanta5746 this is fair, though there are a lot of interesting levels. Maybe not covering all of them is a better idea and just giving some opinions on some interesting hard stuff

  • @noodleshelf
    @noodleshelf Před 2 lety +2

    great video! (and if my assumptions are correct) its nice to see you experimenting with video editing

  • @derozer3812
    @derozer3812 Před 2 lety +25

    Retention being in top 10 was the thing I guaranteed to myself, the level is timelessly good, almost ideally balanced, is really available for almost all skill levels and is just perfect in a lot of senses. Props to woogi for making a level that I enjoyed in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 AND 2022, like, it was and it still is the only level I never get tired or bored of playing.

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +6

      truth woogi just has a way of making levels that transcend time, which is why they're so popular. Colorful overnight and assymmetry were both two years ahead of other levels in terms of quality.

  • @Etheriall_
    @Etheriall_ Před 2 lety +3

    Bro I love this editing style that you started using

  • @wonduu342
    @wonduu342 Před 2 lety +4

    This is so awesome. Please keep doing these

  • @RaiderStruckAgain
    @RaiderStruckAgain Před 2 lety +4

    That part of the intro where Stormfly just straight up goes super saiyan about enjoyment not being important.

  • @SwfCapsLock
    @SwfCapsLock Před 2 lety +5

    "even though you're a nice lad, I can't say that I want you"
    para: 😔

  • @peterg6889
    @peterg6889 Před 2 lety +7

    It's weirdly entertaining seeing you bash RobTop and the current community in such a sarcastic and humorous way. Great video as always.

  • @PORTALIAN_Makes_Bass
    @PORTALIAN_Makes_Bass Před 2 lety +16

    Things that surprised me:
    1. The Hell ____ was not in the bland section at all.
    2. Thinking Space was finally not voted in the top 5 worst extremes. (Thank you for respecting the level, Stormfly)
    3. Dole Damos as #1. This is shocking because literally everyone picks Nhelv or that Celeste level.

    • @yami7805
      @yami7805 Před 2 lety +3

      for me The Hell series have some pretty memorable gameplay, maybe it's just because i grinded them very hard lol

    • @yami7805
      @yami7805 Před 2 lety +5

      Nhelv is based on the Nhelv mv, which is really cool and should be executed more often; or again maybe i'm just a sucker for bof and j-core songs

    • @yami7805
      @yami7805 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ERRR0RR fair enough, i'd rather watch the mv than watch the level but nhelv has that unique idea and the execution is perfect

    • @TheUnholyToast1
      @TheUnholyToast1 Před 2 lety +2

      @@yami7805 Nhelv is very unique I'll give it that, but it's massively over hyped in my opinion.

    • @yami7805
      @yami7805 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheUnholyToast1 idk about the over hyped part because I wasn't active around the GD community at that time (and now)

  • @Cynic_42
    @Cynic_42 Před 2 lety +7

    One of the most important things for me in a level is Personality. Levels like Thinking Space fit into this category perfectly. Sure, the gameplay at times is shit garbage, but where else do you see that gameplay? The decoration aged poorly, but you can tell Hideki put effort into it. I think it goes hand in hand with Uniqueness, and levels with their own sort of identity usually end up being the best ones.

  • @Edduh.
    @Edduh. Před 2 lety +9

    i feel like shock breaker is so bland because the gameplay was almost completely made by top players at the time

  • @ellieprobably
    @ellieprobably Před rokem +4

    i love how much emotion you can put into rotating a png of your logo

  • @quiteafancyemerald
    @quiteafancyemerald Před 2 lety +2

    Amazing editing as usual. Keep up the great content :D

  • @redroverohsix4428
    @redroverohsix4428 Před 2 lety +5

    Gd Zero Punctuation as a concept just makes me happy this was super fun to watch

  • @gmdblue
    @gmdblue Před 2 lety +23

    Nice list! I agree with most of it ✅

  • @gdglokk3886
    @gdglokk3886 Před 2 lety +5

    Tempest Tornado is named after an upgrade for a tower in the game Bloons Tower Defense 5 so that’s why the name doesn’t make sense

  • @LiteracyLovesYou
    @LiteracyLovesYou Před 2 lety +2

    I love your videos, the dry humor makes me laugh. I know someone mentioned that you're getting sick of making gd content. Even if you stop making gd content I'd still watch you.

  • @randomkozine
    @randomkozine Před 2 lety +5

    9:32
    Wiser words have never been spoken.

  • @Remidyo
    @Remidyo Před 2 lety +3

    Really glad to see a video on this that had reasonable points made across each level and also perfectly pointed out the problem of the blandest levels. I stand saying I don't like Esencia but at least I still remember it after this video, can't say the same for the other ones.
    I would be very interested in seeing a deep analysis of what a level can do to stand out in their own both in your objective arguments but also personal opinions

    • @yami7805
      @yami7805 Před 2 lety +2

      man I like playing Esencia solely because of the song, I'm a big sucker for J-core music and t+pazolite is one of my favourite artists

    • @yami7805
      @yami7805 Před 2 lety +1

      and the gameplay isn't that bad for me, in fact it is perfectly fit for my skill range, I would enjoy it more if the level wasn't so buggy

  • @ninjadangd
    @ninjadangd Před 2 lety +7

    Most blandest Extreme Demons that cause Amnesia when you play them.....
    Hmmm, an interesting difficulty mechanic.....

  • @bigmac77gd61
    @bigmac77gd61 Před 2 lety +28

    I feel like the one measure of quality you're missing, one that me and my friends use to judge levels, is levels having soul. It's kind of hard to measure sure but actual passion and effort from the creators is a thing a lot of 'good' levels seem to be lacking. But maybe I'm just salty you don't like my level lol.

  • @bennetthuman
    @bennetthuman Před 2 lety +7

    >Gets mad at levels for being unoriginal
    >Steals almost all of his jokes from Zero Punctuation
    The jokes write themselves. Which is good news for you, writing your own jokes does not appear to be a strong suite of yours.

    • @Stormfly
      @Stormfly  Před 2 lety +3

      touche, will do better with jokes next time

    • @wisteqs6644
      @wisteqs6644 Před 4 měsíci

      haha dafu-?

  • @KarasuTheClumsy
    @KarasuTheClumsy Před rokem +1

    I caught onto the Zero Punctuation homage really quick and was gonna ask if that was the intent but the line "fooled you its shit" confirmed it. I salute you

  • @S3rios
    @S3rios Před 2 lety +9

    Cool video. That said, all level judgements are subjective. Your decision to prioritize some criteria over others is subjective, as is the extent to which those levels fit those criteria. You’re free to judge levels however you want but I don’t think it’s right to say that other people’s methods are less objective than yours.

    • @S3rios
      @S3rios Před 2 lety +4

      @@Rexster930 why is enjoyment worse of criteria? It’s just as arbitrary as anything else. How well you think something represents the music is subjective. Whether or not it’s actually good to represent the music is also subjective.

  • @srdino2335
    @srdino2335 Před 2 lety +4

    Im surprised that conical depression didn't appear in any category

  • @epictoast
    @epictoast Před 2 lety +2

    Why was this entertaining again? Oh right, you made it. Honestly your videos are always great, and I can't wait for more.

  • @kalandillon8320
    @kalandillon8320 Před rokem +2

    1:42 I love how just from seeing the level, I can tell the exact song behind it

  • @mmssel3559
    @mmssel3559 Před 2 lety +6

    bland levels were so bland, that i forgot them 3 minutes, after you introduced them

    • @_kb2110_
      @_kb2110_ Před 4 měsíci

      i just watched this vid again and forgot them

  • @bananekmalyanimacje5651
    @bananekmalyanimacje5651 Před 2 lety +6

    Man, i really like these levels that you put in top 3 worst levels. I think vendeta, rate demon and esencia are
    Pretty good demons.

  • @how-d
    @how-d Před 2 lety +3

    Bro noo I love Kuzureta. It goes so well with the song. The deco and gameplay aren't anything special but they seem solid. It may be the bland when looking at the two prequels though, so I do understand the placement.

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +2

      bland levels have decent deco but nothing that stands out about it. Kuzureta fits perfectly as (insert purple level here) + (insert japanese song here). Kowa at least had some deco charm, and wasu had some gameplay charm. Kuzu has none. Although realistically speaking there's a lot more bland-ish glowy purple levels like void wave that he could have chosen to pick

  • @mortomultiverse8778
    @mortomultiverse8778 Před 2 lety +4

    Damn I forgot Panasonic exist lol. When the level was released at first I liked it for the meme and because I was a fan of Guitar, but looking back at it it's absolutely terrible. Good video

    • @_kb2110_
      @_kb2110_ Před 4 měsíci

      your glad you said was or community would rip you to shreds

  • @thesurvivor3737
    @thesurvivor3737 Před 2 lety +2

    Great video stormfly !
    Glad to know my favourite extreme - Rash made it in the top 10!!

  • @Cobgd
    @Cobgd Před 2 lety +5

    I love how raw your humor is here

  • @MrHotSauceGD
    @MrHotSauceGD Před 2 lety +3

    In my opinion, Shock Breaker & Esencia are both one of my favorite extreme demons along with many more of them. (like Nhelv, Snowfall Fiesta, etc.)

  • @breadit404
    @breadit404 Před 2 lety +4

    There’s some very clear Zero punctuation inspiration here, even past the formatting the humor feels very similar to Yhatzee’s.👌

    • @akanta5746
      @akanta5746 Před 2 lety +2

      half of the gags were directly inspired by zp episodes. I'm just mad he didn't include the "cutting corners at the circle factory" joke for nine circles levels, that would be perfect

  • @AdmiraldPeroxide
    @AdmiraldPeroxide Před 2 lety +1

    Why do I love this guy so much, such fluent criticisms. You really know your subject , big ups .

  • @Toledoblade326
    @Toledoblade326 Před 2 lety +7

    Your personality really shows in this video i love it

  • @PersonalMiner123
    @PersonalMiner123 Před 2 lety +3

    Damn the ZP style works really nicely here, love it

  • @firmament1325
    @firmament1325 Před 2 lety +2

    i'm terrified at how much of this video i can trace back to the exact zero punctuation that it came from.
    for a few examples, the whole tempest tornado bit is the mass effect andromeda segment in his top 5 of 2017, and the ending joke is exactly what he said about destiny 2 in the same video. and the essencia bit is just his rant on thief 2014 in his top 5 of 2014.
    on the transition slides, the best and blandest music is the same as his top 5 of 2016 list, and the worst music from his top 5 of 2015 list. also noticing a lot of assets, like the burger with anime eyes from the detroit become human review.
    man, i really used to watch too much zero punctuation...

    • @Stormfly
      @Stormfly  Před 2 lety +3

      haha, yea i figured some of you would be able to spot that i did this a fair bit. its pretty difficult to capture the lightning that is Yahtzee's humour

  • @CraZyBoTGeometryDash
    @CraZyBoTGeometryDash Před 2 lety +3

    I do agree with your thoughts on these levels. Some people do make levels without having much of creativity. It's really sad but true since all what they want is a rated level instead of a uniquely designed level.
    Sure it does have an extreme gameplay but what matters is that the level have unique aesthetics, no repetitive/similar layouts, new use of game mechanics, and also a gameplay which people would remember.
    Also, you fan of httyd or smth since I found this channel a few days ago.

  • @Idkwhattoputlmaoejjdjsdn
    @Idkwhattoputlmaoejjdjsdn Před 2 lety +12

    Tbh I disagreed with most of the placements, especially Esencia but that's fine. It was still very interesting to hear your opinions and criticisms of these levels nevertheless. Really I think ranking levels in gd will always be subjective since even if you try to be objective, what you consider "good" may be vastly different from what other people consider "good". Good video anyway. I liked it a lot.

  • @jbritain
    @jbritain Před 2 lety +1

    It's nice to hear your voiceovers becoming more expressive

  • @teapot_legend9573
    @teapot_legend9573 Před 2 lety +3

    Marathon is the best extreme in my opinion. VERY UNDERRATED but the style it goes for it executes perfectly. I just don’t know why but this level just catches my eye a lot more than others.

    • @stanstanmansan
      @stanstanmansan Před 2 lety +2

      I like marathon but tbh is far from being the best extreme

  • @AlrexX2
    @AlrexX2 Před 2 lety +5

    the criticism for i hate you at the end is fair enough, at least we both agree that trying new ideas and failing is far more interesting than not trying in the first place :p

    • @AlrexX2
      @AlrexX2 Před 2 lety +4

      although i do think it's interesting to think about how previous levels using the same song (like hatred for example) might sort of skew the general perspective and vibe that one gets from a song. that was the main idea i wanted to test, seeing how most people were leaning towards an angry vibe but personally listening to the song i also get a sort of trippy vibe. i'm still proud of the level but again, it's perfectly fair to be put off by the contrast

    • @enyazogd5325
      @enyazogd5325 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AlrexX2 nah, the hatred song has this dark, heavy sounding slow beat and you used it in a level that looks like some my little pony happy rainbow coloring
      it doesn't match at all sorry

    • @AlrexX2
      @AlrexX2 Před 2 lety +1

      @@enyazogd5325 yeah that's your opinion and like i said it's perfectly valid to think that, but i get a different vibe from the song and that's what i was testing with the level. i think it's good to be open to and explore different alternatives and seeing if it sticks or not, and the truth with i hate you is it just doesn't click for everyone, and that's okay. i still think it's one of my best works, and i know people who enjoy it aswell, so i'm happy with it.

  • @jayphurs-stuff
    @jayphurs-stuff Před 2 lety +4

    you know that one guy from the lego movie? the guy with the two different faces? yeah.

  • @a7c7q7
    @a7c7q7 Před 2 lety +1

    been waiting for some years for a video that talk about this

  • @olinolivia
    @olinolivia Před 2 lety +3

    my issue with this is rating art on an objective scale. as much as enjoyment ratings are subjective and not always 100% reliable, i'd say an argument could be made in favor of recommending levels by averaging out the experience of those who saw all their pros and cons, after all there's many variables to why something can be good or bad, way more than a set number of categories to rate something on can fully describe. it's why i personally would think of consulting mathgenius' list first to see the quality of a level. definitely respect the effort put into this though, loved the video.

  • @NummyGD
    @NummyGD Před 2 lety +4

    I went to look at Dorami’s Esencia video and one of the top comments was “The best extreme demon of 2019” 😬

  • @cybercrafted4229
    @cybercrafted4229 Před 2 lety +1

    6:46 I believe it was named after the Bloons TD 5 upgrade of the same name

  • @lexycat
    @lexycat Před 2 lety +7

    this video is good cuz u call out bullshit for no reason

  • @omarchuck9837
    @omarchuck9837 Před 2 lety +6

    dole damos at one makes me happy, jeyzor too good

  • @AuLumity_idol_is_GawrGura

    I know Panasonic is a bad level, but it was my favourite during early 2.1, and I like Lucasyecla99 part, which someday may be a thing for me to put it on the last part on the level.

  • @pokhanpat9046
    @pokhanpat9046 Před 2 lety +5

    In kuzureta's defence, the song it uses is a banger

  • @Prometheus_Alt
    @Prometheus_Alt Před 2 lety +10

    Well this was an interesting take, I never thought Nhelv wouldn't be in the top 2

  • @lool8421
    @lool8421 Před 2 lety +3

    imo the gameplay should be worth twice as much, who cares about the decoration if the level is terrible and can't get past a single part
    decor just adds more to the experience, but doesn't really carry it, it gives a theme but without a good music and gameplay, the decor just... it just looks nice, but doesn't do much besides that, doesn't make you feel like something is going on
    i tried star grinding some time ago and ngl, i kept dying to 2-3 stars just because ppl can't even do the proper gameplay (transition "helpers", blind jumps, custom orbs that don't look like anything, move trigger abuse, terrible balancing), like 3/4 of the featured levels aren't even good and only like 1/10 are somewhat original

  • @NoNameMike
    @NoNameMike Před 2 lety +2

    Random question, what happened to 5th blandest, 4th best and 4th worst extremes? Did you have to remove them due to copyright or something? I only know that 4th best is artificial ascent due to the end of the vid and the 4th worst is new record due to a comment someone made, but what's the 5th blandest? Nice vid and also what rating did you give conical depression and thinking space?

  • @-FrodoBaggins-
    @-FrodoBaggins- Před 2 lety +1

    i laughed SO hard when you started get pissed off at the beginning😂

  • @bluey9849
    @bluey9849 Před 2 lety +5

    I literally could recognise shock breaker from the video and ive never beaten it or made any progress

    • @itsorenji
      @itsorenji Před 2 lety +1

      I saw a lightning bolt on a generic glow level and thought ‘yup that’s shock breaker or shock therapy’ I’ve never seen a video of either.

  • @ujkloin
    @ujkloin Před 2 lety +1

    1:28 "alright lets move on" i love that

  • @guythatspurple5095
    @guythatspurple5095 Před rokem +2

    I like the fact that escencia uses block choices that were known as a bad combo in 1.0, the thing it’s trying to go for

  • @beepduck
    @beepduck Před 2 lety +6

    imo unoriginality doesnt make a level bad. usually when i play all these revolutionary original levels i just get really frustrated because of weird, annoying and unlearnable gameplay. i dont really see it as a bad thing that lots of levels look similar. i do think that levels should have something about them that makes them stand out, but i like the way simple generic or glow style decoration looks and i find that type of gameplay really fun to play usually.

    • @eresball5413
      @eresball5413 Před 2 lety +4

      I agree, execution is where it’s at.
      Usually when someone calls out unoriginality there’s likely something else in the level that makes them hate it.
      If it has good execution but has been done before, many people won’t really call it out and just like the level.
      However the more bold and original the level is, the more value it’s execution holds. Executing original ideas well is how revolutionary levels are made.