Is It Worth It To Buy Game Night 2019 Edition for Magic: The Gathering?

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Komentáře • 621

  • @rinhoffer1402
    @rinhoffer1402 Před 4 lety +151

    I bought this Game Night for my family and I because we literally were just starting into Magic. Amazon delivered it just a few days after my husband and I first walked into our local game store and inquired about learning Magic. (We were in a date night and looking for an adventure) The only other cards we had were the starter decks. For us, this was our best investment. As a family, we would take this into our local game store, sit at their tables and play. The staff would assist us when we had questions. Now, six months later, we are buying our own decks (from our local game store) and using our Game Night to teach other family and friends. In fact, just last weekend, my best friend and I sat with Game Night at her kitchen table and I taught her. She’s getting her own mono-blue deck from me for her birthday. Game Night is not meant for the serious player who has been collecting cards since they were 11 and has three Commander decks built. Game Night is for the families with kids, just like mine, who want to learn. Dull? Maybe. But that slow game play is necessary to learn the intricate vocabulary lessons and understanding how to strategically use a sorcery card. #AnotherPointofView

    • @ratman2817
      @ratman2817 Před 3 lety +2

      so true bestie

    • @perehn8910
      @perehn8910 Před 3 lety

      👏👏👏

    • @David-gj9qr
      @David-gj9qr Před 3 lety

      Yes but most of the time(with the exception of the "new players guide or when he is reviewing a product specifically for new players), he is reviewing these products with new and established/experienced players in mind not just new players. You yourself stated that you got this product when you were just starting MTG hence making you a new player at the time. You might not find value or fun with this product now(who knows maybe you will but you will probably have more fun with one of your own decks or a different pre-constructed deck)

    • @adrianobernal9221
      @adrianobernal9221 Před 3 lety +10

      @@David-gj9qr that’s literally what she said, this is a good product to introduce new players. After she becomes experienced she will probably use this to introduce others into the mtg world as she stated happened with her friend. I think her point of view is actually very fitting for this product, an introduction product to mtg. #myopinion

    • @garrettsanders4832
      @garrettsanders4832 Před 2 lety

      THANK YOU! This is exactly what I was looking for!

  • @haladmirknowsbest
    @haladmirknowsbest Před 4 lety +397

    When the professor casually reminds you that he was an English teacher at one point.

  • @brockmckelvey7327
    @brockmckelvey7327 Před 4 lety +733

    Product with 3 Planeswalkers on the cover, but none of the featured characters are in any deck?
    0/10 flavor fail

    • @machdude3366
      @machdude3366 Před 4 lety +30

      when 2 of them are two colored walkers in a mono color themed set? lol

    • @Stallord2292
      @Stallord2292 Před 4 lety +31

      @@machdude3366 Poor choice of cover art on WotC's part then.

    • @TimmytheSorcerer
      @TimmytheSorcerer Před 4 lety +15

      True, didn't even realise that. What a missed opportunity.

    • @hierroarcanjo451
      @hierroarcanjo451 Před 4 lety +8

      @@machdude3366 which both of them had mono color playable versions

    • @Tannhauser42
      @Tannhauser42 Před 4 lety +8

      Not only that, but the box says 2019 Edition, but many of the cards say M20. All of the cards should have used an alternate set symbol.

  • @Serouzo
    @Serouzo Před 4 lety +220

    Ah yes, Christmas time approaches when the Prof starts to rhyme more and more

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen Před 4 lety

      He’s doing Sinterklaas this year, it’s nearly December 5.

  • @michaelgoedeker9697
    @michaelgoedeker9697 Před 4 lety +21

    This is a good review for most magic players. However, when I showed 2018 to my friends who had never played before, they had a lot of fun with it. I think the pace of the game is actually great for new players.

  • @marcelozapata93
    @marcelozapata93 Před 4 lety +105

    I would love to see a product similar to this one with pauper decks. They don’t even need to be optimized just include some new art here and there.
    Mono red burn
    Mono white heroic
    Mono green elves
    Mono blue fairies
    Mono black control
    Great gameplay at a fraction of the cost. Make it happen for us WOTC!

    • @TeaHauss
      @TeaHauss Před 4 lety +6

      I'd absolutely buy this.

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 Před 4 lety +6

      I have been whining about some sort of pauper precon for years now, whether it be something like challenger decks, duel decks or a battle box, I would happily pay a price premium to be able to buy fully or mostly optimal Pauper decks especially if they release multiples at once so I could pick them all up and have something to play with friends who don't have, or forgot, their decks

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen Před 4 lety +1

      Yuzuki1337 so... www.cardkingdom.com/catalog/shop/battle-decks ?

  • @wilheimrupenshire2152
    @wilheimrupenshire2152 Před 4 lety +34

    You touched on it yourself in this video. When me and 4 other friends of mine each bought a Bi-Colored Ravnica deck back in 2003 (or whenever that block first came out) we played for weeks without any major alterations to the decks, and had plenty of fun doing so. Out-of-the-box decks can be fun if there are cool things in the decks such as:
    -interesting win conditions
    -interesting tribal themes
    -effect synergy
    etc

    • @Jonqen
      @Jonqen Před 4 lety +1

      Preconstructed decks where better than intro packs

  • @TheOmenTheEnd
    @TheOmenTheEnd Před 4 lety +122

    Me: watches Magic The Gathering video
    CZcams: Oh you like magic do ya? *shows ad for Penn and Teller's Masterclass*

    • @christopherwoodbury7520
      @christopherwoodbury7520 Před 4 lety +22

      Sleight of hand is integral to winning pro tours. Otherwise your opponents will catch you cheating.

    • @wisconsincheez2307
      @wisconsincheez2307 Před 4 lety +1

      @@christopherwoodbury7520 ha. Ive never played a tournament but I love watching both types of magic videos. After seeing what basic magicians are capable of... competitive mtg needs dealers.

    • @KalElelVigilant
      @KalElelVigilant Před 4 lety

      A Penn ans Teller MTG themed trick would be awesome

    • @lucasghedin1800
      @lucasghedin1800 Před 4 lety

      @@christopherwoodbury7520 Sleight of hand is integral to topdeck manipulation in blue.

    • @dbfbody
      @dbfbody Před 4 lety

      Nope, it's Cock Magic. LOL (South Park: Cock Magic episode)

  • @chrisa6212
    @chrisa6212 Před 4 lety +13

    I bought it to play with my friends, none of us had ever played before and we really liked it. I know it's quite stripped down but it's got me wanting to play more magic

  • @ReplayStation
    @ReplayStation Před 4 lety +58

    This product reminds me of the 5 mono color decks I built out of bulk commons to teach my kids how to play...

    • @dustinfidge4016
      @dustinfidge4016 Před 4 lety +5

      That's how you know of you're a beast at MTG. Wreck two noobs at the same time with a mono blue Fog Bank deck

  • @DarthDubhslaine
    @DarthDubhslaine Před 4 lety +56

    I almost bought this partly because I like the idea, but now I'm glad I didn't. The few good cards aren't worth getting boring bulk. Thank you for the review!

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 Před 4 lety +1

      if you can find last year's, that had much better decks.

    • @DarthDubhslaine
      @DarthDubhslaine Před 4 lety

      I managed to pick up the 2018 version earlier this year. It's just a let down that 2019 is not as good.

    • @STR13R
      @STR13R Před 4 lety

      Anthony Delfino+ have you played Explorer's of Ixalan? I'm trying to decide which one to pick up.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 Před 4 lety

      @@STR13R I have not, thought I thought it looked interesting.

  • @rexhardrod9554
    @rexhardrod9554 Před 4 lety +6

    I have never played Magic but I was curious and came across this video while looking for a basic Magic the Gathering video and I really like the idea of a game night concept for this game. Since I've never played and I would love to do a game night with my family I think this sounds like a really cool thing for someone like me who's never played before.

  • @Vanaxarion
    @Vanaxarion Před 4 lety +23

    I started magic when wanting to teach Yugioh to a friend and convinced him to try if I tried magic.
    I bought the duel decks Nissa vs Ob Nixilis and tried it with my friend out ouf the box . I got really disappointed, and I didn't want to keep going on learning it as it seemed so less complex and fun than yugioh.
    Then, I bought the commander precon with Arahbo. I didn't got everything that was going on, but out of the box.. Geez it was fun. I am a magic player since then and brew many commander deck and still enjoy the precon.
    For me, the facters were that I could sens the complexity of the game, where it could lead me to, even if right then, I didn't understand everything. I knew, the game has more to offer, than what the duel decks gave me. Without the commander precons, I would have stayed on my convictions that magic wasn't a game for me, and that is the product, that made me change my mind.
    So yeah, for me, casual doesn't rhymes with lack of complexity.

    • @themadstudent
      @themadstudent Před 4 lety

      I'm not surprised you liked Arahbo. The cat tribal deck was, even compared to its precon peers, a superbly built budget commander deck with an especially good budget mana base. However, commander has a fairly steep learning curve. Most mtg noobs have trouble learning to swim in the deep end of the pool.

    • @Vanaxarion
      @Vanaxarion Před 4 lety

      Oh I didnt like the deck very much. Not really my style. The point was that commander pushed the limit of what magic seemed to be for me. And yeah there a lot of nuances a new player have to learn for commanders, and the boards arent particulary easy to follow sometimes. But it is what made me feel I could love the game

    • @hoody5863
      @hoody5863 Před 4 lety

      Ah yes the amazing cat deck (Kittens as we call it at my LGS). I wouldn't trust a new player with Slivers or my Sidisi deck. They wouldn't get that you can't keep Gaea's in your hand. That's why there is painful departure etc to purposely ditch it into your graveyard or to traumatize themselves with sidisi out to win game with zombies

    • @XBLMA
      @XBLMA Před 2 lety

      Now a days, Magic is more close to Old Anime Yugioh than Yugioh itself these days lol. Yugioh isn't what it use to be!

  • @DiggOlive
    @DiggOlive Před 4 lety +148

    Why am I addicted to your videos I don’t even play magic.

    • @theburgercam
      @theburgercam Před 4 lety +50

      He stacked points on charisma

    • @aidenpearce6624
      @aidenpearce6624 Před 4 lety +8

      It is not because of his hairstyle, I guess...
      RIP head of hair

    • @zanlich784
      @zanlich784 Před 4 lety +15

      Because he is a wonderful wordsmith. And you should play. If you can. It's a wonderfully fun time.

    • @TheGeekZeek
      @TheGeekZeek Před 4 lety +7

      Just play, you won't regret it. Going to prereleases is like having another birthday.

    • @davidrose4750
      @davidrose4750 Před 4 lety +2

      Start playing

  • @hannesb.7128
    @hannesb.7128 Před 4 lety +11

    Dear Professor, first I really love your content, second I think you missed something in this product review. In the last year's game night, the instructions says that you easily make the decks two coloured, by dividing the mono coloured by set symbol and mix them in a new way together. I think this year's is doing it the same way. Greetings from Germany. 😊

    • @Thurmanator94
      @Thurmanator94 Před 3 lety

      He missed it in 2018 too, and watching this vid it seems to be split into the 2 as well so I think I am going to try buying this box as well since I loved deck building with the 5 decks that made 20 different combinations just with splitting it by set symbol

  • @Maddmonkey87
    @Maddmonkey87 Před 4 lety +6

    This was a great way to teach a few friends how to play magic without being overly complicated.

  • @TheSpiffyNeoStar
    @TheSpiffyNeoStar Před 4 lety +18

    I really liked planechase as a fun casual out of the box experience.

    • @wertm123
      @wertm123 Před 4 lety +1

      Same and the idea behind it was also new and interesting

  • @Pringlesman
    @Pringlesman Před 4 lety +50

    I disagree that these decks would be "better" if they were more consistent and contained more 3-4 copies of cards. If you think of this as a board game rather than a normal magic experience, that would be terrible for the replayability of the decks. What the decks are missing is interesting synergies.

  • @ShifuDaxiongmao
    @ShifuDaxiongmao Před 4 lety +8

    The 3 things that works for "casual" players (thinking back to when I started):
    1 - Does the deck reward me for playing to a theme/synergy? Playing cards is fine, playing cards that does extra stuff if I play it at the right time/with certain cards. This is one of the main advantages to the guild decks. Because the guild identities allow for strong themes and in some cases strong synergies too.
    2 - Does what I do matter? Put in strong cards. They don't have to be format changing ones, but having cards that make people remember their plays (and especially "outplaying the opponent") is what makes them consider continue playing magic
    3 - Can I do it consistently enough? This ties into your comment about there rarely being more than 2 of the same card. It should be possible to include at least functionaly similar cards so the things the deck wants to do the most (see the previous points) happen on a regular basis.

    • @cantrip7
      @cantrip7 Před 4 lety

      Having only 1 or 2 copies of cards for casual products always confused me, because it's 1. more unique text I have to read that slows down my play, and 2. seems to suggest I should value variety above all in my own deck-making. It's hard to convince some new players to have copies of cards, even!

    • @cantrip7
      @cantrip7 Před 4 lety

      @@matthieusieredzki4030 I don't see it as a zero sum issue. Inconsistent casual precons often result in grindy games without cool interactions. A basic midtempo deck with more set-specific keyword synergy and a small suite of situational spells would lead to more impressive moments than a game of War with a woder variety of faces.
      And I know casual players often fall for The Illusion, but idk, when I started with theme decks as a kid, I was pretty frustrated with how they played (coming from YGO, where even kitchen table decks randomly assembled from packs had bigger splashy, dramatic moments).

  • @tho0501
    @tho0501 Před 4 lety +3

    A friend showed me how to play Magic with last year's Game Night Box. Dull gameplay is completely fine if you are still struggling with basic rules. I have since then participated in 3 PreReleases and right now have 11 Commander-Decks on my shelf. I don't think I would have gotten into Magic if I wouldn't have learned the basic rules of the game with this very basic/dull product. The fact that the decks are mono-colored is also a nice way to learn something about differences in the color pie.
    For me the Game Night Box is for teaching completely new players how to play Magic and it works very well in that regard. If you're not doing that I don't think you want it. The box I learned with hasn't been opened in a long time. Once you know about the basic rules you can (and you want to) move up to more exciting stuff.

  • @bulawa6406
    @bulawa6406 Před 4 lety +3

    Most fun I've had with a casual precon experience was when my college buddies first taught me Magic. We got the four commander precons from last year and had a blast.

  • @Kvietulo
    @Kvietulo Před 4 lety +4

    I really enjoyed "Explorers of Ixalan" MTG box game! The island exploration was a fun experience and it made each game really unique.

  • @keeganobney8643
    @keeganobney8643 Před 4 lety

    Me and three other friends each bought a challenger deck at a local convention to sit and play while waiting for a panel or some sort of thing to start. We had so much fun just playing and learning our decks that we have games as much as possible where we show off the new bling we have added in our decks and play. So much fun!

  • @classymofo1059
    @classymofo1059 Před 4 lety +1

    My most fun casual experience with a returning player was buying 2 planeswalker decks from war of the spark.
    It was a gideon orzhov deck and a jace simic deck.
    The decks came with an arena code for the decks, and the best part in my opinion was the inclusin of a few WotS booster packs. We cracked them open and added a few of the rares and uncommons like bolas' citadel and biomancer hydra to our deck and swapped out some of the really bad common card inclusions.
    We played like 10 games and it was insanely fun and my friend who hadn't played maguc in years thought it was really fun, and now had a deck for mtg arena to start with as well. And the products were only $15 each. Not bad.

  • @Cameron-eq1pz
    @Cameron-eq1pz Před 4 lety +111

    who else loves when the professor rhymes?

  • @EnAyeEm000
    @EnAyeEm000 Před 3 lety +1

    Having not played Magic for quite a few years and only finding one Ravnica deck which I found a few months back (must have ditched the rest of my old collection at some point) I found that the Game Night set was a great way to get a bunch of cards right off the bat. I am teaching my daughter to play and she likes it. I have since purchased the 2021 Core Bundle, Kaldheim bundle and a few random theme boosters of differing colours from different sets. We are now learning to deck build. But Game Night was a great way to get back into Magic.

  • @f2v2productions22
    @f2v2productions22 Před 4 lety +4

    The best casual experience I've ever had is Archenemy. The Supervillain variant is still my all-time favorite way to do multiplayer free-for-alls.

    • @SomeYouTubeTraveler
      @SomeYouTubeTraveler Před 4 lety

      Whenever my friends and I play casually, we automatically make the first player The Monarch _after_ their first turn. Monarch makes for very fun, much faster games.

  • @cheex18
    @cheex18 Před 4 lety +1

    I got it for my son (10yo) for Christmas, i am very excited to play this with him and my wife as well as his friends. this has a place in Magic i want more multiplayer not less. i miss two headed giant and 2v2 formats.

  • @elviejopotter
    @elviejopotter Před 4 lety +15

    Oh, it's that time of the year.
    The Game Night review...

  • @ozgamergdu
    @ozgamergdu Před 4 lety +5

    I got last year's version, with the m19 cards instead of the m20. Interesting enough, the most valuable cards in the set are tokens, according tcg player, the double sided m19 goblin/thopter tokens have a mid market value of $15 each, with 3 in the set, selling those would more than pay for the set. If nothing else, that's a handful of spin down dice and as many basic lands as I'll ever need for free after selling those tokens.
    As a new player who can't get Arena to work, I found Game Night to be very useful for learning the basics of how to play MTG and in teaching my non gamer/non strategically minded partner how to play (which, is the only MTG practice I can get between FNM until Wizards fix Arena's compatibility & performance issues).
    With the majority of cards in the set being cheap, they're also expendable - it doesn't matter too much if any "accidents" occur while introducing MTG to some mates over a few bourbons. With decks ready to go, you can introduce you're friends without them needing to invest any cash in something before they know if they're going like it, without risking or disturbing your "valuable" collection, and without having to bother with building any decks. While building a deck can be half the fun, it's also quite a daunting task for a new player. Game Night lets you just pick it up and get your uninitiated friends playing the game with minimal fuss.
    My main complaint with the set would be that the swish looking inner packaging won't hold the cards once they're sleeved.

  • @jokke5285
    @jokke5285 Před 4 lety +2

    For me, it was the social aspect of playing a highly customisable game with your friends. Nothing beat the fun moments with friends around absurd/funny combos ❤

  • @1MoreStep1
    @1MoreStep1 Před 4 lety +1

    That rant starting from 7:45 summarizes how I feel playing draft in Magic the arena.

  • @maxwellnichols3873
    @maxwellnichols3873 Před 4 lety +1

    I think the gold standard of casual Magic products that we've seen recently is the Guild Kits. They're fun and semi-powerful right out of the box, (mostly) balanced well against each other, and offer plenty of clear paths to upgrade. If Wizards is looking to create a good casual product, they should look towards the thematic and mechanical richness of the Guild Kits rather than linear mono-colored decks.

  • @calebsaenger3344
    @calebsaenger3344 Před 4 lety

    my favorite casual decks i made myself were clunky but fun decks, mono-white lifegain featuring sunbond, minotaur tribal from theros block, detain fliers from return to ravnica. this is what i learned magic with, not watered down bulk, and until this product or products like it change for the better im going to keep my interesting and clunky casual decks to teach others not only how to play, but also to love the interactions between different cards and colors

  • @michaelpiercy89
    @michaelpiercy89 Před 4 lety

    As a primarily casual player, I agree with the professor...the Ravnica guild kits have been amazingly fun to play with over and over!

  • @codysmith4210
    @codysmith4210 Před 4 lety

    Professor is the only youtuber that I have seen consistently show good personality both on stream, and on every video he's in, and never breaking a positive and nice attitude (except against WoTC of course), appreciate you being a good guy, and not a piece of shit like the others bud, keep up the good work

  • @skynyrdjesus
    @skynyrdjesus Před 4 lety +12

    Honestly, a lack of arena code is a deal breaker for me. Even though I really love the idea and they look really cool, Arena is where I get to play most of my Magic

    • @skynyrdjesus
      @skynyrdjesus Před 4 lety

      @Jojoforpres Arena isn't perfect, but it's something I can sit down and play regularly and easily. I prefer it to Online, even though current standard is objectively terrible, because it's a more enjoyable casual experience. The paper cards I've collected for ten years are basically just art on cardboard, because I get to play them maybe once a year.

    • @hwfjj1989
      @hwfjj1989 Před 4 lety +1

      @Jojoforpres Arena is standard format MTG. Just because you don't consider it MTG does not mean it is not MTG when it clearly is. Now don't get me wrong I wish they would start developing the platform so that we could play more formats.

  • @brianwise899
    @brianwise899 Před 4 lety +1

    My favorite out of the box experience was Archenemy. The game was a blast if you were Bolas and a puzzle if you were the Gatewatch. My favorite casual experiences in card games are using my imagination to integrate WOTC's characters into my playstyle. You can create a narrative through a game and your favorite characters!

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel Před 4 lety +2

    The best casual product I've ever experienced, and I experience it month after month, year after year, is the prerelease kit.

    • @JBergmansson
      @JBergmansson Před 4 lety

      Are you sure that's the product you mean? Aren't prerelease packs just a bunch of packs and a rare, meant to be used for sealed deck construction?

    • @SmugLookingBarrel
      @SmugLookingBarrel Před 4 lety

      @@JBergmansson Yes they are, and sealed is the most fun casual magic I've ever played.

    • @JBergmansson
      @JBergmansson Před 4 lety

      @@SmugLookingBarrel Each to his own. Were you into the deckbuilding as well?
      I feel personally that prereleases can sometimes be really uneven in terms of the power of the decks, and that can lead to non ideal gameplay, especually for beginners.

  • @LinkBeyblades
    @LinkBeyblades Před 4 lety +1

    Recently I'm having a fun experience right out of the box. Not on Magic, but in Pokémon TCG.
    I've noticed that Theme Decks from November 2018 up to now are much better built than older ones. They have a clear strategy, 1 to 3 copies of each card, with the strongest Pokémon been 2 of.
    I've never liked Pokémon Theme Decks as they used to be a bunch of 1 to 2 of, with no consistency at all. But now they're a fun experience right out of the box. New and old players can enjoy it. And you can even have this experience online with the exclusive theme deck vs theme deck mode.
    Me and my friends are already planning upgrades, but we agreed to not use Ex, GX and all that bling stuff. As also to not use game changing staples as Lysandre, so we can have an old school Pokémon experience.
    It's fun, it's exciting. And everyone is creating their own unique strategies instead to follow a meta game.
    Cardfight Vanguard have a solid starting point too with their trial decks, full of 2 to 4 of. As is the case with Pokémon Theme decks, you can easily just buy two of the same and put them together to get a solid and fully functional deck. Nothing competitive, but extremely fun and perfect for a casual non-expensive experience.
    Magic lacks that. The Planeswalker Decks could be a little more like the Challenger Decks. Not necessarily focused on winning strategies for standard, but with that same solid build.
    Pokémon learned to do that. Now it's time Magic does the same.

  • @solidkingcobra
    @solidkingcobra Před 4 lety

    The duel deck Elpseth vs Tezzeret is very special for me. I remember picking it up at Walmart for fun. I was a seasoned magic player and I taught my friend how to play magic with that duel deck at Starbucks. He had a great time with one thing lead to another and within one week he was playing FNM standard with my mono white deck. Then the rest of my friends started playing magic it was so awesome. then the commander products came out and they transitioned to EDH players. good times.

  • @martinpalazzo9703
    @martinpalazzo9703 Před 4 lety

    In response to the final question I would say that the best preconstructed product I ever played with were the exodus preconstructed decks that we brought with my brother in 99'(a 10 and a 12 year old) One was a mono blue with a bunch of counterspells and a red-black land destruction. Those decks were just so much fun to play, they had cool strategies and were balanced one with the other. The other cool thing was that they included cards from the entire block.

  • @Theneonwind
    @Theneonwind Před 4 lety

    Honestly, the all foil Slivers, Red Deck, and black deck were a ton of fun back in the day and their cards still see play to this day.

  • @MrRipmur
    @MrRipmur Před 4 lety

    My play group’s favourite casual release is picking up the new plainswalker sets and playing them out of the box with now changes. It’s something we look forward to every year now.

  • @sidclauwers5945
    @sidclauwers5945 Před 4 lety

    A colleague of mine bought me all 5 brawl decks for my birthday in April. She and another colleague of ours had never played mtg before. The 3 of us each picked a deck based on their name (this day got me back into magic again after a near 2 year break) and played after I briefly explained the basics and we looked up the brawl regulations. We each had a blast the first game was really tense and each subsequent game had some back and forths. Most games one of us would take the lead and we'd try to politics our way out out they picked up Suprisingly fast and really enjoyed it. We've come back to play the decks several times if we had some time of. I think it was because we all had something we liked about the decks and their themes and the fact that it looked fairly balanced even if someone got ahead the odds could be evened with teamwork or some sneaky politics. Also the top deck victories were amazing. And just as you mentioned thinking back the games never felt stale sometimes a few quite turns right after a board clear or when things got dire but ussually there was action and at least one of us was on the offense.
    :D

  • @PatJamma
    @PatJamma Před 4 lety +3

    The guild kit decks are honestly one of my favorite ways to play magic. I made some very minor changes to the decks as they all had way too much Mana often leading to flooding. But I then replaced those with ravnica cards to fit in theme. The Dinir deck also went through some more extensive changes. I wanted to make it more focused since imo it was the weakest deck because of it.

  • @koreannom
    @koreannom Před 4 lety

    The best fun I ever had in MTG was back in high school, we would purchase duel decks in teams of 2, so everyone had a deck to play. We'd go ham at each other during lunch and would even spice up the decks with cards we already owned. I purchased the Knights vs Dragon deck with a friend and I kept the Knight deck. Was alot of fun haha

  • @it-is-no-use
    @it-is-no-use Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for the honest review. I still like this as an option to always be able to teach people the game and each colors' respective play style.

  • @simonh2011
    @simonh2011 Před 3 lety

    I got game night to try and get my kids into magic. Its very good if you treat it as a board game. It's never going to replace your main decks but great to throw in the holiday bag as an all in one

  • @karymthekoolguy
    @karymthekoolguy Před 4 lety

    I agree with your analysis of this product. To add to the guild kit comparison; I bought kits because it also included a few alternate art cards, exclusive land art that i wanted in commander decks, and a guild pin. It feels like an exclusive land art or extra bling could have made this product appealing to more experienced players like myself and maintaining the intended purpose of “board game” for new players.

  • @michaelogara9056
    @michaelogara9056 Před 4 lety +1

    Most fun I've had was opening a package, was me and friends opening a bunch of comander products and playing right out of the box, also cube is a absolute blast with the cube me and friends built

  • @s4ad0wpi
    @s4ad0wpi Před 4 lety

    Something my friends and I did with last year's Game Night products was draft them! We shuffled the however-many cards together, and drafted our own decks, cube-style! It was a far better experience than the original games!

  • @enigmaticiconoclast8235

    Honestly some of the most fun I've had with out of the box play were the commander and planeschase anthologies. I could pull them off the shelf and give one of the precontructed planeschase decks to someone learning to play magic, and they could start to grasp it. Throw in the planeschase deck or introduce them to commander from there and new magic players were born almost every time.

  • @Thurmanator94
    @Thurmanator94 Před 3 lety

    Cards are split perfectly into 30 M20 and 30 “reprint set symbol”, rule book said to mix them to make new decks. 35 total playable decks - $1.15 a deck.
    Definitely worth the price as long as you looked at the rule book.
    Had a lot of fun mixing just by splitting the decks by set.
    Also had a lot of fun doing a full deck building challenge with my buddy by taking turns choosing a color and then splitting the last color into sets and then make the best deck with the 2 or 3 colors.
    The 2018 game night was a great way for me to get back into MTG after selling my whole collection when I enlisted

  • @angusdahms4936
    @angusdahms4936 Před 4 lety

    I’m a returning Player, over the past 2 years I have built a modest collection. I would say I had the most fun with ToE, at the pre-release. Opening the Booster Box before it was released was great! Having only ever purchased 1 Booster Box before that (which was also a blast to open WotS) it was exciting to get surprised by all the new cards.
    So maybe it’s because I’m a once in a while kind of Player, my favourite product to open and play with so far has been the Pre Release Pack for Throne of Eldraine. And the Booster Box (with Box Topper) and Collector’s Pack was also a lot of fun.
    I intend to attend the next Pre Release in January.

  • @briceblansett6613
    @briceblansett6613 Před 4 lety

    i've done a deck-building exercise with some of the recent blocks, going back to about kaladesh. basically i build a deck using only commons and uncommons, or less-than-50-cent rares, from only one block, usually in a 2-color combination, sometimes mono color if the block supports it. being mostly commons and uncommons, the decks generally lean into the draft archetypes from their block. So for kaladesh, i built boros vehicles, simic energy, selesnya fabricate, dimir improvise, etc. the synergy is built in thanks to the set design. so while applying this concept to just about any block you'll usually get some kind of boros aggro deck, an azorius tempo deck, a dimir control deck, you always get a flavorful version with specific synergies for that block that make it feel more interesting. just in green black alone from recent sets i've put together a saprolings deck from dominaria, +1/+1 counters from kaladesh, explore from ixalan, undergrowth from guilds of ravnica, -1/-1 counters from amonkhet. the decks are dirt cheap, usually about 5 to 10 bucks to build, and that's if you don't already have the commons and uncommons lying around. i have alot of fun with them and it's a good way to put draft chaff to good use and play pet cards/strategies that are not good in other formats

  • @lourencolimadacunha5493

    I do only play casual magic, maybe not more than 20 ou 30 matches in the entire year. I usually sit down in the holidays season (xmas, new year's eve, etc) with my brothers and some friends from my home town and some matches. The last year (2018), after seeing Commander matches in YT, (game knights and others) I went to my LGS to buy the 4, but they only had 3. It was a blast do play those decks, even they are considered "bad" commander decks. So to me, until today, Commander pre-cons are the best experience I had in just sit down and play. The same I can say about the guild kits. I've bought all 10 kits, and played casual matches with my brother, no one even knowing what cards were in the decks, and we had some very fun matches, just out-of-the-box decks , shuffle and play.
    I did bought most of the Planeswalkers decks when coming back to MTG (after 10 years away) to start fresh and tried to do some "tournaments" using the decks...it was ok-ish. The core 2019 were the worst...Not really fun gameplay, at some point it was just top decking hoping for no vanilla or lands cards. At the end of it, I grabbed all the 10-ish decks and traded with a friend that is a collector for 2018 challenger decks...best decision ever in terms of fun, not so good in terms of investment, but still worth the trade.
    So I'd say Guild Kits > Commander pre-cons > Challenger Decks
    Next I want to try Brawl decks.

  • @TheCoyote808
    @TheCoyote808 Před 4 lety

    Most fun was sitting down with the group for the first time they got me in to Magic, popped open a box of Guilds of Ravnica, and building with what we had in our boxes.

  • @Nyuakune
    @Nyuakune Před 4 lety

    Guild kits and duel decks have been my best experience playing mtg right out of box.
    I haven't been playing for a long time, and it's great to see decks with themes, gets me thinking.

  • @sonofchlar6144
    @sonofchlar6144 Před 4 lety +1

    By far the best experience I had was with my little brother with a couple of the precons from original mirrodin. I grabbed the Megatog artifact sac deck and he grabbed the big green creature deck. They were incredible and were perfect opponents for each other.

    • @Jonqen
      @Jonqen Před 4 lety

      Preconstructed decks rocked. Then they became worse with intro packs because they want people to buy more boosters

  • @vernmcfarland3058
    @vernmcfarland3058 Před 4 lety

    playing the commander product right out of the box with friend is my favorite way to enjoy magic. the decks are mostly balanced and a blast to play.

  • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
    @ohnosmoarlulcatz Před 4 lety

    A good casual deck for me needs a plan. This is where most casual decks fail as they are not built with a plan in mind, or specifically a single mechanic in mind that would make it easy for the player to realize "oh, my deck is based around this, so I should use this ability to get ahead". Commander 2016's Atraxa deck and Card Kingdom's 1 damage tapping deck (I don't remember the name of it and I think it's no longer for sale) are good examples of this. The mechanics are simple. Atraxa places +1 counters on everything and push their way to victory through sheer overwhelming power. Card Kingdom's deck was based on tapping things for 1 damage with ways to augment that damage. They were designed around a single mechanic and it works well.

  • @qrusaiderrosettv57
    @qrusaiderrosettv57 Před 4 lety

    Well i started playing magic half a year ago and what brought me in was my English teacher landing me and my friends his box of the previous game night and i fell in love with the mechanics... because i feel like that's what it is for ... to introduce people to the basic rules and mechanics...

  • @nyxdarkness1
    @nyxdarkness1 Před 4 lety

    I haven't played the 2019 version of Game Night, but the 2018 version is what pushed my wife and I into getting interested in MtG. As two people who knew next to nothing about MtG, it introduced us into the world of Magic without overwhelming us. Sure, it got dull after a while, and we upgraded to decks from Card Kingdom, but I definitely feel like we got our money's worth, plus we got to support our semi-local game store.
    The real value in this product is "How well does this introduce players to the gameplay of MtG?"

  • @johnevans6629
    @johnevans6629 Před 4 lety +72

    Your hairline is coming in quite nicely Proff.

  • @whatshappening708
    @whatshappening708 Před 3 lety

    I learned how to play mtg with a game night set, went to a party everyone chipped in and we rolled to see who would pick their deck first, three of us hadn't played before so it was ideal for teaching us all

  • @nberge6
    @nberge6 Před 3 lety

    Love the 2018 version...used it to teach some new players, plus the shiv in that reprint is just nostalgia incarnate.
    Thanks prof

  • @leudyrodriguez2488
    @leudyrodriguez2488 Před 4 lety

    The battle decks from card kingdom are above and beyond the best out of the box play value I've ever experienced. They're the best.

  • @user-yf5ns5sl2z
    @user-yf5ns5sl2z Před 4 lety

    The best experience I had with a casual product would be Garruk Vs. Lilliana duel deck. This was the first product I bought and it is what really introduced me to the game. I split the cost with a friend, he took the Lilliana half and I took the Garruk half.
    This product was good because it didn't have stalled games and both decks had very clear goals and win-cons. Both could attempt the beat-down plan because my creatures were big but his creatures had abilities like flying and deathtouch. However we also had our unique wincons too. Mine was having "Overrun" type effects and his was that he could just make me discard all my cards and life drain me with sorceries and instants.
    This product also immediately hooked me into the lore. Because I wondered "What is the deal with these two characters and why do they hate each other." And so that led me to research Garruk and Lilliana's relationship and that introduced me to the rest of mtg lore.
    Overall I think that a casual product should have games that last about 15 to 20 minutes, the decks should have at least 2 wincons and it should have some ties to the lore of magic as an introduction. That's what worked for me and my friend so I figure it's at least a good starting point.

  • @MrSteelface96
    @MrSteelface96 Před 4 lety

    MTGA is the best casual experience, because you don't need to keep track of everything that's going on, you get a bunch of precon decks ready to play and a nice tutorial.

  • @necitachi46140
    @necitachi46140 Před 4 lety

    The best Out of the box value I’ve gotten with friends are the guild kits and planechase anthology products. I can take them to any gathering of friends that play and get a ton of fun with them. The decks are interesting and exciting and planechase never disappoints to add so much variety to each game.

  • @tr4pkeedyoungking677
    @tr4pkeedyoungking677 Před 4 lety

    The pre con commander decks were the best for my play group we have a blast playing those decks

  • @Funkofages
    @Funkofages Před 4 lety +1

    This seems like a product that should have been given to game stores interested in fostering an MTG scene. Hard to imagine anyone buying one of these, aside from relatives giving gifts who don't know more than "Timmy likes magic."

  • @avivlab
    @avivlab Před 2 lety +1

    0:00 Intro
    1:10 Packaging and Extras
    4:36 Value
    7:25 Gameplay
    11:28 Conclusions

  • @jamiegriffiths2524
    @jamiegriffiths2524 Před 4 lety

    What makes a good casual gameplay? Honestly it was the commander precons and duel decks. They actually helped my friends and family understand the game more and the price and gameplay matcged what we wanted. I was the aggro player but some where very very good at control or ramp and even combo.
    Those where the best of the best and sadly one of them isn't around which is a great shame.

  • @krim7
    @krim7 Před 4 lety +46

    To me, this box set should be like 20 bucks.

  • @samb9759
    @samb9759 Před 4 lety +2

    It was a bit pricey but I had SO much fun with the planschase anthology

  • @ButterWizard1
    @ButterWizard1 Před 4 lety +17

    are you ok prof, im not sure i’ve ever seen your tie off centre

  • @Risicoco
    @Risicoco Před 4 lety

    I have bought all 5$ Ravnica decks from SBMTG and I used them to teach the game to my girlfriend. I like that every deck has an identity and that they cover many different archetypes. They cover every guild and are basically the dream draft decks of GRN and RNA.
    Things I dislike is that some match ups are pretty one sided and that sometimes you end up with those topdeck wars.

  • @VampireGamer1
    @VampireGamer1 Před 4 lety +2

    When you do these reviews for MTG board game style products, I would recommend a comparable priced board game as well.
    In this case, I think Clank is in that price range and is a far better product.

  • @richardlawrence4213
    @richardlawrence4213 Před 4 lety

    I liked original planechase. The decks were synergistic with distinct gameplay, including some fun reprints, and the planar dice kept things moving because you always had something to do. I enjoy a unique twist on traditional magic, even if it's not totally balanced.

  • @whitearmortk900
    @whitearmortk900 Před 4 lety

    For out of the box fun I’d say the yearly commander products are the best. Not overly expensive, and have a ton of value and fun built right in.

  • @austinharris1118
    @austinharris1118 Před 4 lety

    2013 commander, so many cool back and forth games. Played with mainly cards in those recent formats, definitely on budget.

  • @andrewvitale7295
    @andrewvitale7295 Před 4 lety +60

    His tie was so distracting me the whole time

  • @asmodean7239
    @asmodean7239 Před 4 lety +324

    Oh, so this is like playing commander with friends, but not fun. Ok.

    • @Doofindork
      @Doofindork Před 4 lety +29

      This. I don't mind commander being grindy from time to time, because a single card can change the whole board. This just seems... tiresome and dull.

    • @dustinfidge4016
      @dustinfidge4016 Před 4 lety +1

      Best commemt ever. lol

    • @David-gj9qr
      @David-gj9qr Před 3 lety

      And also considering that there are better budget ways to play commander for a similar price

  • @GrashUriza
    @GrashUriza Před 4 lety

    The Planeswalker Decks were a great way for me to get back into the game before I dug into standard once more. They are build well and are interesting with their own mechanics and strategies.

  • @danielzawacki4192
    @danielzawacki4192 Před 4 lety

    I had a chance to try the SCG Player's cube at SCG Con a couple of weeks back. Full disclosure: I lost every match 0-2, didn't even pick up a game. Nonetheless, this cube was a BLAST to draft and play. Lots of fun built in to this $100 pauper singleton cube with very thoughtful card inclusions. Sufficient support for a slew of fun archetypes, despite its singleton format. For play groups that can forage 6, or ideally 8 players for a draft pod, this cube has real VALUE in it's expertly selected cards, even if not necessarily in the cards themselves. For $100 you get the cube, 35 if each basic land, and sufficient sleeves to sleeve up the whole thing. Lots of fun jam packed into this longbox.

  • @00akcarl
    @00akcarl Před 4 lety +1

    As always thank you for doing our homework for us professor!

  • @digittydave7079
    @digittydave7079 Před 4 lety +1

    Seeing this product makes me sad because my brother wants to try getting into magic and something this full would bore him. Thank you for your guidance, Professor.

  • @oxtim394
    @oxtim394 Před 4 lety

    My own personal favorites were the old school themed starter decks, and the ill-fated clash decks. Theme decks were always fun out of the box and I loved the idea behind clash decks: buy two decks that you can play versus a friend casually and then suit up for fnm.

  • @Legeden
    @Legeden Před 4 lety

    I remember when I bought my first commander deck (Prossh precon) and sit down to play it. It was really awesome and despite my opponent having custom deck that countered the built-in voltron strategy, I really enjoyed the game and do so ever since.
    I think I'll get this one for the few cards but I won't even bother playing it as is. I can't even imagine playing this against any constructed deck or as mentioned any duel deck or guild kit.

  • @Sacrosanctity451
    @Sacrosanctity451 Před 4 lety

    Professor lookin sharp AF. Flexin that new cut!

  • @Flailmorpho
    @Flailmorpho Před 4 lety +2

    a slower and more matched game sounds divine to me tbh, I always hate how fragile and uninteresting mtg tends to be in practice when anyone on board tries to do well

  • @TNTales
    @TNTales Před 4 lety

    I know it's technically not "ready out of the box" but if you're interested in standard I think just a couple of fat pack / bundle kits are great. 230 cards, land, some boosters. And it's a great in if you're just starting to play.

  • @goyocaballerorodriguez4796

    For me the best format will be sealed, pre-release being on top. It isnt thought for new players, but is the best way to make the jump towards constructed games while showing the player how tournaments work and more complex mechanics. Also provides a bit of library from the new set and probably some deck ideas to work around.

    • @goyocaballerorodriguez4796
      @goyocaballerorodriguez4796 Před 4 lety

      It also limits the power level of the decks (besides that player who opened 2 Okos and a Questing Beast). Finally, if you manage to convince a veteran player to play two-headed giant it will be much more fun for both of you

  • @yahirperez-binuelo5690

    I saw this box in Walmart glad you went over this before I bought it I don’t want no dull match I want something fun and exciting

  • @cfrydlewicz
    @cfrydlewicz Před 4 lety

    These would be a great opportunity to reprint old cards that have either been errata'ed (any target, for example) or would have simplified text boxes with modern templating. And especially usability-centric players like me might even buy one of these to get those versions for my Commander decks...

  • @MidgarMerc
    @MidgarMerc Před 4 lety

    I got an ad for Penn and teller's master class magic learning site. CZcams literally relates Magic tricks with MTG haha

  • @weirdmusicmixmaster
    @weirdmusicmixmaster Před 4 lety

    Definitely like the old duel decks, they helped me teach people how to play with medium powered stuff, two different strategies and tempos sometimes, and if they were just starting out theyd get 2 full decks that were worth expanding into edh or even just editing into better 60 card. The guild kits and brawl decks are the best thing running to get the same feel other then the commander precons.

  • @nickbrydels1894
    @nickbrydels1894 Před 4 lety

    My favorite style of this product was something that came out during Kahn's. It was 2 decks that could be built in to one when you were ready for standard. Now, I didn't get this for a pathway to standard but I did get it to play magic with a friend I hadn't played with in years. The decks were dynamic and had interesting gameplay. Now a few years later I still have some of those cards which are playable in say, modern, or pioneer. I use the courser of kruphix from that product in my BG delirium pioneer deck and have a few other cards in my cube or "playables" box.