Bleeding your Steering with Hydroboost Brakes, AGR Performance Steering
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- čas přidán 17. 02. 2019
- We show you how the proper way to bleed your power steering system with hydroboost brakes using Aaron' Kaufman's Ford SuperDuty at ArcLight Fabrication. www.agrperformance.com
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90 cycles did you have to replace your tie rods and ball joints by the time that was over
Yo, was so frustrated until I saw this video. Thanks man! It worked like a charm, but I did it for 15 cycles. Steering and brakes beautiful!!!
BEST video about getting air out of hydro-boost systems! Thanks!
Ron,
You are the MAN for the job.
You motivated me to try again and keep at it, wish me luck.
My issue was a bad power steering pump. Started out as a whine when cold, got stuck in mud once and then it started whining at all times, getting air in system, and leaking. I couldn't tell where it was leaking, seemed to be from reservoir cap or power steering pump so I just hoped for best and replaced pump which took care of my problem.
Thanks.... very helpful video. Got my steering back to normal after months of air in system from replacing the power steering pump on my 04 mustang. Not many people are knowledgeable about the hydroboost system
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Considering I tried this without doing the brakes each time and now I'm having to redo bleeding because the brake system is making noise, this video would seem to be correct to me and wish I would have found it first. Thanks for the good info guys
Thank you so much brother. You save me today. God bless you
Great video that I wish I had watched yesterday. I changed the pump and lines in my Duramax and didn't realize they had to be bled. I went straight to trying to flush the system and of course, the steering wheel had no power. I tried a couple of times and the engine was running for at least a full minute. Hopefully, I didn't ruin the new pump.
You ruin your pump?
I did a similar thing, did you ruin yours? I don't if mine is or not I'm about to just keep trying to bleed it.
Awesome video, very helpful!
Thank you very much. Just put in a new hydroboost and power steering pump.
I have a gmc 2500 hd with hydro boost,I had power steering when I shut it off but the next day I had no steering at all but the brakes work,do you think this will help me?
what would happen if the previous owner didn't have this done properly? The 2001 silverado hd I bought has a new hydroboost on it, but my brake pedal doesn't seem to apply the brakes until about mid way. Is that common for this year of truck, or should I look into it further? Thanks!
I just replaced psp and lines, did the cycle and have a ABS code on dash after starting. Still got air in the system?
Do you need to do this after replacing the pressure line?
I'm trying on my 07 Silverado 2500hd classic 6.0.. after test it my abs an brake light come on but if I dont use my brakes it runs great .. when I use my then it starts up again losing power are it wont speed up
Bought a used BMW about a month ago. Steering was quite firm, obviously not enough to "steer" me away, but definitely on the firm side. Anyway last night I was testing my brake booster, and doing a fair bit of brake pumping. Power steering was absolutely not on my mind at the time, didn't raise the front end and turn the wheel or anything. Today I get into the car, back it out of the driveway and immediately notice the power steering is way smoother, like night and day difference. Did I inadvertently bleed something from my power steering lines to bring about this change? Its the only thing that's plausible, I also used some techron yesterday but that can't be it...
Question.I have 2002 duramax that had a leaking hose from the brake assist to the ps gear box.Everthing was working perfect.brakes and power steering.After shop replaced the hose i now dont have power steering at a idol or low RPM sand brakes dont work so good at low RPM either.They only work good with foot on the throttle or driving down the hyway.Whats wrong??
Does this need to be done if you just change the pressure hoses? Also, would a leaking power steering pressure hose cause my brakes to feel spongy and make it hard to stop the truck? It’s a Chevy suburban k2500 diesel.
Great video with lots of useful information. Have a few questions, 1. At what point do you stop bleeding, if booster is bad/defective? 2. Do you recommend that all the lines be replaced due to the expose to excess heat from the fluid ?
Tried already but my brake pedal after I pushed all the way in it come back really slow, any idea why?
Very good video, thank yall very much
Do I have to go through all these steps if all I’m replacing is the steering gear box?
I replaced my power steering pump. I bleed the system but now the steering makes no noise but when I hit the breaks it makes a loud growling noise. Breaks made no noise prior to replacing the power steering pump. Any ideas?
I put a brass tee in the return line because i jad to bleed so often. Turns the hydro boost was leaking at the firewall. Could i leave the T unplugged and let the air out through there while doing this?
I just replaced my hydro pump and power steering pump lifted the truck turned the wheels a couple dozens times with the trk.off with the lid off power steering fill box .fluid stayed up so i started it went around the block and when I put the brakes on the steering almost locks up.i bleed the front brakes because I did the pads recently got allot of air but lost ..any help appreciated if I can just start the process with doing the brake part that's what I'm going to do today but do you open the brake reservoir lid?I don't think so so I'm not going to .and if I have air in the brake system from doing the brakes and missing air in the system will that cause my issue?1982 Chevy C.30 dually
Thanks for the video! Why do you do it with the car off instead of on? Curious as every other video I've seen has the car on.
Thank you sir for this video
I replaced my hydroboost on 2006 chevy express 1500... And the van won't be able to shift back or forth...is this hydroboost had some to do with that?? (I DDNT bleed the system yet)
I just replaced the ps cooler on an 05 Suburban (w/hydroboost). The cooler is the highest point in the system, will this work fluid into it?
If not, can you provide some insight? So far all the youtube videos I'm finding they just replace it, put fluid in and call it a day.
I replaced the hydroboost and the power steering pump, steering seems good but breaks are soft. And when I press the break PS fluid comes out. I'm guessing I did not bleed it thoroughly?
hey buddy great video very easy to understand and very professional. i had a line leaking replaced 2 calipers 3 roters and the brake like on the drivers front roter i blead the breaks alot alot but after my truck sits the breaks lock up on there own after a few hours untell l i release the pressure on the calipers....... i was told to replace the hydro booster..... dont really wanna if i dont have to can you help me out sir.....? could i have air in my hydro lines like this? or could it be my master cylinder? am i sicking air threw my break lines somewhere im lost......
thanks!
2001 lb7 duramax 6 speed manual
Ok while your in the truck you do one reputiton then you get out and pour more ps fluid ,?? My question is ;while u are turning and pumping do u have the cap off the ps box ? Or does that even matter? And I said there is no cracking any lines to purge it .? Thanks
I got a ram 2500 diesel, after feeling something different in the brake pedal and lack of power steering shortly after I changed the pump. I did a lot of bleeding and made sure the new pump was delivering pressure to the hydro booster, kept bleeding and I can only turn the wheel completely left, once I get to center it wont turn any further. It wont turn right.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
alfred M
Can air get into the system if the car has been sitting for 6 months? Drove the car yesterday & the power steering felt sticky, almost manual at times. Parked and checked the fluid was still full. Did notice some leaked back up through the fill cap on the reservoir.
Does the power steering resvoir cap has to be on
Is the reservoir cap off during this process
Do you know what would cause a new hydroboost to leak at the weep hole I put a duralast one on and it leaked asap. Would a bad pump cause the booster to leak?or maybe my lines too tight
I replace my power steering because it was leaking fluid. I notice the hose leaking fluid and wasn't sure if it was just the hoses or the pump so decided to change both and not take a chance having to come back and change one or the other. However even though it was leaking it was steering easy and breaking perfect although after I changed the pump I noticed the steering was harder and after following this procedure I noticed I lost my brakes now I have to really step on them hard for it to work and it takes a gorilla to be able to turn the steering on my truck now even after following this procedure and doing 60 Cycles. Too bad they took my old pump as a core otherwise I would go back and put it back on. I don't know what to do now. I don't think it's my booster I don't see it leaking and I know there's nothing wrong with my master cylinder either. Any idea what could have gone wrong and how could I fix this situation now?
I have a 2005 Hummer H2 with hydroboost. Will this apply to the Hummer too or is it only for Ford?
2 years later..hey your truck is ready. Powersteering should work
Keith Dunnivan this is what I was thinking 🤔
It's crazy I spent the way too big price for the pump and hydrobooster and it would be nice to know it will work one day or I'm about to sell this ford diesel piece of 6.slow to go but cost more and more and less to appreciate about the no vaccume making misfiring crap bag I bought. I need a Chevy cat eyed and I'll be normal again
I just replaced a worn out noisy power steering pump on my Silverado C3500 dually with hydroboost, now my steering is quiet and works fine but now my brakes are soft and the antilock light comes on... brakes were perfect before I put the new pump on.
Thanks for the help
Did you ever figure out a solution to that? I’m going through the same thing!
@@00civic1 what was the fix?
@@stitchthisditchthat259 not sure, new brakes , new power steering pump, bleed the system. Bleed the abs system , also I drove out on a dirt road and hit the brakes hard while doing pretty good speed. Abs worked as it should and brakes worked even better after that. The abs system needs to be bled using a abs bleed scanner or computer . Somebody told me to go on a dirt road and drive fast and hit the brakes and it should bleed itself . And it worked for me.
I need help locating the reservoir for this system as it's not in the stock location.
I have cycled 90 times and still no steering. Should I keep going or replace the pump? I can still hear air bubbles coming out of the fluid in reservoir. When I check it the fluid never goes down. Stays at the same level.
I don't understand how fluid is going to get up to the hydroboost without the pump running. Does cycling the steering/brake pedal draw it up into the hydroboost by creating a vacuum?
I JUST WENT THROUGH IT, IT SUCKS. IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY? AND WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO DRAIN/FLUSH THE POWER STEERING HYDROBOOST SYSTEM?
Do you do this with the power steering cap on or off?
Do you keep the power steering cap on or off?
Do I leave the cap on or take it off when going through the cycles
How do you k ow for sure that no air is in the lines. How did you end up at 90 cycles?
When I steer with the truck off the power steering fluid goes all over the place?
Why when I do a cycle does power steering fluid over flow a lot. And when the cycle is over the reservoir is almost empty
so what of I also need to bleed the brakes? can I bleed them as I do the 3 pumps between turning wheel? or wait amd bleed them like normal after? I'm guessing it dosnt matter? lol
my brake pedal does not come all the way back up when I compress the brakes three times, why?
whatever happened to topping off the fluid and firing it up. No wonder I am having trouble with my 7.3 swap brakes right now. Foams up and blows it out the cap everytime
If you have ram assist on your truck, shouldn't the fluid drop a slight amount upon turning on the truck? Great video!
A. Tudor yes it should because of the differential in volume inside the cylinder. One side of the piston has the rod which takes up volume, and the other does not.
With dipstick in or out?
What happens if you have no brake pedal at all
CAP ON OR OFF DURING BLEEDING?
Hey folks, it appears you're doing this with the cap off, is that correct?
I see a lot of comments, some with questions but no responses. I was wondering if this applies to Chevy also
So when pushing my brakes it goes directly to a bottoming out feeling as I can hear it in its hydro system ,the crazy thing is I swapped new fluids 3 weeks ago and helped a lot but now half way thru a 90° turn ,it'll stop letting me turn my wheels and one of the tires begin to drag barking along the pavement?? Can mine be fixed with bleeding?
Why would you not use a vacuum bleed technique?? There are also a number of videos doing it that way and it seems like a way better method at a fraction of the time.
I did this on my Chevy 2500hd, it works, but be prepared for a mess, lots of fluid flows from pumps reservoir cap area in the beginning. Took me over 100 times to get it bled out after changing the gear and pump together.
Have a Hummer H2 just replaced the steering gearbox and pretty much everything else time to bleed the air out. I am going to try this method and let you guys know how it works.
How did it work? Just replace my hydroboost and still no breaks.
How do you know when it's done? I'm just watching the levels rise and fall lol
Okay so if I'm hearing this right one full-cycle is 5 times to the left 5 times to the right and then pump your brakes three times after you do the five to the left in the five to the right that is one complete cycle you said it took 90 Cycles to get the air out of the system is it better to have like an inspection camera or something to see if you can see bubbles is that we're looking for is Bubbles coming up I've bought a master cylinder before and I've bled slave cylinder before but I've never did hydroboost brakes I've had trucks with them but they've never really had no issues
Ok is this procedure the same for Chevy as well? I only had to replace the pressure hose from hydro boost to the pump the dealership tech told me turn it lock to lock with the motor off 11 times and that will bleed it. They never said anything about pressing the brakes.
Also how do you flush the old fluid out? One video on here says to disconnect the return line at the hydro boost and run a hose from the HB down to a drain pan then start the truck, slowly press the brake pedal and hold it then turn the wheel 12- 3 in both directions, refill pump as needed his was whining badly, keep repeating until you see clear fluid. Is this correct?
Yes. If it has a hyroboost unit. They are all identical. They are made by a company called Bendix. So the procedure should be the same.
So 11-12 hours of doing this?
I have a 2005 Chevy Suburban that I just replaced the hydroboost on with a new one. I did not open any of the lines to the master cylinder and did not tip it. After the install of the new boost, I turned the engine on and turned the steering wheel and pushed the brake several times. The brake pedal is now squishy like there was is air in my brake lines. Could this be from not properly bleeding the air from the hydroboost? Please help.
4 years late, but yes
Do you leave the cap on the entire time while doing this or do you leave it off?
Nicholas Boyd I typically leave it off but beware that a large air bubble escaping can bring fluid with it causing the fluid explosion some have experienced. Might lay a lintless towel over the fill neck just to be safe!
I NEED TO DO MINE AGAIN, I DID GET THE GEARBOX CHANGED OUT.
90 cycles what the hell how many years did that take
Confused... did you do the cycles with the reservoir cap off or on? When you start the vehicle, do you have the reservoir cap off or on? Don't you suck air back into the system with the cap off and also make a big mess? Mine splashed outside of the reservoir.
Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN your reservoir cap is vented. I recommend bleeding the system with the cap off. It won’t suck air in because once the air escapes the fluid weighs heavier than air. I also like to be able to see what’s going on inside the reservoir, it gives you a good idea how much bleeding is necessary.
Steering Pro Shop AGR Performance Steering cap of sprays fluid all over in my truck
While going through the cycles does the power steering fluid cap need to be off or on?
Only if you want to watch the bubbles go by
Just watching your video and I have a 2000 f250 super duty 7.3 and tried doing it like you recommend but it blows fluid out each turn
Strong bubbles of air.
Did everything the same. On the 5th cycle it blew some steering fluid from the cap. Didn’t do it after that. Is that normal??????
DjStalin100 that was air escaping and it brought fluid with it. Sounds like a large bubble. Can be normal
So if I'm replacing the brake booster master cylinder power steering gear box power steering pump and all lines this should bleed the whole system correct
Yes Charles this is exactly what you need to do. Be patience to ensure you won’t have to do it again. If any air passes though the pump it can cause damage to that pump so take your time!
I have a 99f350 7.3. rReplaced the power steering pump, bleed the system . The brakes work fine and the steering works fine. When I stop and let the truck idle for 30 seconds the power steering does not work, very hard to turn. Soon as I give it throttle the power steering works. Your advice would be helpful.
Amador Gomez what fluid did you use? Does it seem to be getting warm? Does the fluid level raise or lower on the first 2 seconds of start up?
I've got the same problem. What do I do to fix it
I did this on my 2004 f450 and it worked, got the buzzing out. Only question is I must of done it 150 times already and there's still air bubbles comming up. Do you have to do it until the bubbles stop comming up. Im talking literally 150 times already took like 2.5 hours.
If there's a leak on your return lines it'll keep sucking in air, which is why pulling a vacuum is better, the vacuum pressure drops if you have a leak
I replaced my Power steering pump, First my belt broke, after belt was replaced, power steering started pouring out trans fluid. I did the 5 cycles, 90 times, but with cap on, and it currently has a small whine @ ideal, and no power steering, and when I push on the brake, makes a loud whine, a little push back, but does stop Any advice ?
how did you fix it?
Thanks for the informative video. As you are going through the cycles and it keeps burping out fluid, can the fluid get low enough so you are sucking in air again? (Like with bleeding brakes) How often do you need to top up the fluid? It seems like when I add fluid, I loose it all again the next time I start turning the wheel.
Thanks 👍🏿
I was able to do this with the battery and air box out. Then have the the door open window down. You can lean out the window and see the power steering reservoir.You can see the fluid bubble when turning the wheel. Thought this might be helpful for someone doing it by themselves. What if the power steering reservoir keeps puking fluid out?
Hugh Dugan when the reservoir is puking Fluid out it’s because air is escaping and pushing fluid out. It happens
Or is it to the left to the right left right left so total it would be three lefts 2 rights does that make it complete cycle or is it left five times until the right five times that would give a total of 10 unless I'm doing unless I'm thinking this wrong then you three steps down
Would air in the system cause very hard steering while stepping on the brake when your not moving, like when your are reverse parking?
yes sir. Air is compressable and fluid is not so when air compresses its like you aren't pushing on the brake but you get the weird hard pedal feel
@@Steeringproshop Thank you! My wife's 1973 Bronco OEM power steering pump was low when we bought it and I never bleed the system and having that issue I mentioned. I'll bleed it as you did and hope that fixes it. Aloha!
Just bought the same truck as AK... sweet ride.
Do you do your full cycle of turns with your wheels with the power steering cap on or off n also if your brakes are still spongy do you bleed them
Did you figure out if you needed the cap on or off? I have the same question
@@jayandtay2447 n yes very helpful but come to find out pump was not circulating because the power steering shaft was broke
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If the power steering and brakes went out do you think that’s the hydro boost or power steering?
Power steering pump feeds the hydroboost usually, how it works on my dodge
i replaced power steering pump ,lines steering box, on my 2004 gmc duramax with hydroboost. did the procedure serval times put back on ground still no steering at all or brakes
Ellis McNeely how many times full cycle, (five full turns lock to lock and 3 pumps of the brake)? What fluid are you using?
i used the o'Reilly brand power steering fluid, i have done your procedure around 30 times plus i have done others before i saw your way. could i have a bad hydroboost?
Ellis McNeely you could. Is so hard to diagnose over the internet or phone but I HIGHLY recommend flushing out the house brand crap and use either AGR brand, Swepco715, or genuine AC-Delco Power Steering fluid. Even if it’s in a Ford! Fluid quality does wonders!
I just replaced a gearbox on a super duty and used this method. I have power steering to the left but not to the right. Any ideas
I would say air in your system
@@seaneld its kicking my ass lol
Very Pro, thanks.
I replaced my PSP, I have followed this videos instructions multiple times over, no matter how many times I turn the wheel and pump the brakes, there is still air coming up and still no brake power and I can not steer to the left when I try to drive it.
Sounds like you have a leak on the return line sucking in air
FYI vaccum filling has been a go to preferred route for over a decade...at the dealerships
That's more expensive though
@@iamn360
How is it more expensive? This guy must have spent at least an hour. The adapter and hand pump are cheap. Probably takes 15 minutes to vacuum out the air.
And with knowledgeable people. I’m pretty sure they vacuum at the factory rather than the time consuming method described in this video.
Great video! Just had the dealer replace my hydrobooster and a line in my 18 ram 3500, got it back, I'm thinking it has air in the system. They told me to keep driving it and it will bleed the air out and to keep an eye on my power steering level. Will it bleed itself eventually?
Man I'm having the exact situation to a T ,and I'm concerned bcuz i ran into a problem recently and had to apply the brakes hard and they seized up , and the power steering stopped working .the next day I was able to drive it again for a few days . Last night the brakes are not working worth the flip and neither is power steering ,but I can still drive it ! Man I hope u get yours figured out ! By the way what did they charge you to install a new hydro boost .
@@braleyshardwoodcustoms8584 it was 1k to change the hydroboost and a line parts and labor. 😑
If I try this with the engine off it pushed fluid out of the reservoir..
Ok can you explain why my master cylinder isn’t pumping fluid? I mean when I push the brakes with the cap off no fluid pushes out and it stays full as if it isn’t pumping at all! My brakes doesn’t work at all now after replacing the precharge pump!
Travis Jackson isn’t pimping brake fluid?
Steering Pro Shop AGR Performance Steering not at all. Reservoir stays full no matter how much I pump in the brakes and I know the lines are not full after replacing all those parts for that reservoir to stay full.
Steering Pro Shop AGR Performance Steering it’s has a rubber hose that runs from the front of the reservoir to the precharge pump. I assume that’s the issue but I replaced it with a used part off a Tahoe with low miles I don’t think it’s bad
Good thing the Ford FSM states that the hydroboost system is “generally self-bleeding”. What that equates to is; “go ahead and drive the car sensibly for the next 2 days to let things bleed out.”
Cool seeing the bearded wonder there
Great video ,I drive an Avalanche so I bottomed out in a hole yesterday . The brakes seized up it seemed ,along with the steering. After waiting till today I cranked the vehicle and the steering works but when applying the brakes I noticed the foot pedal wants to stay stuck down about half way so it takes my foot under it and pulling it out back to its normal resting position. So I'm asking will a simple brake bleed be the fix? Or am I possibly looking at purchasing a new booster.
BRALEYS Hardwood Customs sounds like you need a boost. However it’s hard to say remotely.
Thanks but it probably won't hurt to perform this action on it beforehand would it?
Maybe its just the pushback spring in the connection between your booster and master cylinder.