So What If Cade Cunningham Isn't A Future "Superstar"?

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  • čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
  • Cade Cunningham was viewed as one of the more highly touted prospects in recent memory when he entered the NBA. He drew comparisons to guys like James Harden and Luka Doncic as a big playmaking guard. However given the inefficiency and lack of team success through three NBA seasons. It’s lead to people questioning if Cade is still that future superstar. If he has the upside to be what made him the consensus first overall pick. Especially with guys drafted after him performing better through three NBA seasons. In this video I want to talk about what I have seen in the tape and numbers with Cade Cunningham. What I believe he is as a player right now. As well as what I see in the upside for him as a player.
    0:00 Intro
    1:17 Playmaking
    2:12 Mid Range Scoring
    3:38 3pt Shooting
    5:19 Creation Limitations
    6:41 Rim Pressure Concerns
    7:57 Projections
    11:16 Recap
    11:58 Outro
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  • @TerranovaBasketballStudy
    @TerranovaBasketballStudy  Před 3 měsíci

    How good can Cade be?
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  • @hasbullasbiggestfan4438
    @hasbullasbiggestfan4438 Před 3 měsíci +23

    Anthony Edwards first 124 games: 21/5/3 on 43/34/78 splits
    Cade’s first 124 games: 20/6/5 on 43/33/85 splits
    So I’m assuming you think Ant also doesn’t have superstar potential?

    • @greenecarlos93
      @greenecarlos93 Před 3 měsíci +2

      😂😂😂😂 exactly CZcamsrs been saying the same things for 2 years without actually watching games or seeing if this man has improved

    • @greenecarlos93
      @greenecarlos93 Před 3 měsíci +1

      😂😂😂😂 exactly CZcamsrs been saying the same things for 2 years without actually watching games or seeing if this man has improved

    • @CharlesRSTJ
      @CharlesRSTJ Před 3 měsíci +3

      Facts! I would like for him to answer this question 🤣

    • @dijon.like.the.mustard
      @dijon.like.the.mustard Před 3 měsíci +2

      Oh wow, thanks for this! I did not realize the similarities, but this is a great stat pull! Good shit

    • @samadagoat7769
      @samadagoat7769 Před 3 měsíci

      Ant plays Both ends and is a impact player cade just don’t impact the game he get his numbers but it don’t impact the game

  • @ryanp9822
    @ryanp9822 Před 3 měsíci +17

    Cade’s shooting 45/36/85 splits this year which is about normal for a lot of really good offensive players

    • @greenecarlos93
      @greenecarlos93 Před 3 měsíci +6

      Cade since Christmas been shooting 49/43/81

    • @dijon.like.the.mustard
      @dijon.like.the.mustard Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@greenecarlos93he’s also literally mirroring the same number of Paolo who was an almost unanimous all star this year. I seriously do not get the Cade hate from people, he’s been awesome, and it’s even more impressive that he’s done so in the situation he’s been in this year & his entire career
      Also, everyone literally forgets to mention that it’s pretty much his second year while coming off an injury. “Groupthink” really is a crazy thing, people just aren’t watching but instead going off narrative

    • @cameronbolden5064
      @cameronbolden5064 Před 3 měsíci

      @@dijon.like.the.mustard Cade was suppose to be luka lite while people were saying JSJ should have been 1 and Paolo 3. Not to mention the magic are in the playoff race while the pistons are the worst team in the league

    • @greenecarlos93
      @greenecarlos93 Před 3 měsíci

      @@cameronbolden5064 you talking team success while we are talking individual players not to mention the magic have a ton of plus defenders and two big wing players that can get buckets just a better roster in my opinion

    • @dijon.like.the.mustard
      @dijon.like.the.mustard Před 3 měsíci

      @@cameronbolden5064 no, i’m not arguing that cade should have been an all star. i was a bit misleading with that. i’m just providing context to his season, he’s been awesome. there’s no question that he’s a offensive engine. he’s been given the worst roster in the league, but he’s someone still progressing as an efficient leading guard (while also getting the worst whistle of any leading guard in the league).
      My point is that this video questions Cade’s validity as No.1 option, while he’s only progressed in all of the areas that we wanted him to after his rookie year. He’s been a leader on & off the court, and has dragged this putrid team to their wins. I’m not comparing the two teams and their success, but there’s no way Paolo & Cade can be putting up the exact same numbers with one being a No.1 option/all-star while the other is a disappointment. It’s all about context. If you watch the film & pay attention to how Cade has progressed in so many areas rather than narrative, it’s clear that Cade is a number one option

  • @shannondonaldson9798
    @shannondonaldson9798 Před 3 měsíci +16

    His efficiency around the rim is also a direct result of his unfair whistle. Cade gets zero respect from officials.

    • @24kminds
      @24kminds Před 3 měsíci +3

      NBA doesn't want Cade averaging 30 pts per came this early in career yet on the pistons. Cause if he gets a fair whistle he goes to the line 3-6 more time a game. Cade is already almost a 90% ft shooter. With a fair whistle he is in the all star game. And pistons in the play in.

    • @HardyHarz
      @HardyHarz Před 3 měsíci

      100%!!

  • @chrisartis9585
    @chrisartis9585 Před 3 měsíci +16

    When guys like KD, Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, Demar, Steph, AD, Harden, Kyrie, and even Richard Jefferson are saying Cades good then frankly it doesn't matter what any ill informed fan says. His colleagues know what's up
    Another great vid Nova

  • @WarrenF19
    @WarrenF19 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Cade has been on a heater recently, but it feels more like he's finding his game and not just a hot streak; I kinda wish that you waited until this season's end to make this video

  • @bazooka4576
    @bazooka4576 Před 3 měsíci +17

    Im a raptors fan and im still a huge believer in Cade. Hes still arguably the best player from the 2021 draft but he just needs a better team to showcase his stardom more.

    • @24kminds
      @24kminds Před 3 měsíci +1

      🎯 he's on the right team. And whoever would argue that will take it back later.

    • @cameronbolden5064
      @cameronbolden5064 Před 3 měsíci

      Dude has Duran Ivey Ausar Stew, They had boogie Harris and burks and other guys they have talent

    • @TacoVell
      @TacoVell Před 3 měsíci +3

      He is the best player from that class it’s not arguable

    • @Death4K
      @Death4K Před měsícem

      @@TacoVellyour retarded

  • @Collindunks
    @Collindunks Před 3 měsíci +32

    Cade continues to have the absolute worst whistle in the league. I don’t understand how he doesn’t get calls

    • @richardpage5812
      @richardpage5812 Před 3 měsíci +11

      Because he plays for the Pistons and the league hates the Pistons.

    • @24kminds
      @24kminds Před 3 měsíci +9

      I understand why cause if he got calls he would be averaging 8+ free throws a night . It would put cade in top 7 in ppg in NBA. The NBA is not ready for cade,and the pistons to be great again.

    • @04billups90
      @04billups90 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Put him on any other team in the nba and he’s one of the most sought after players in the league the lack of basketball knowledge by people like terranova are the only issue with him… nba 2k has ruined the basketball community fr

    • @Collindunks
      @Collindunks Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@04billups90 this what happens when casuals talk basketball. You should hear bro talk about Josh Giddey 😂

    • @vanze6214
      @vanze6214 Před 3 měsíci

      Cuz No one care about the bottom team

  • @Skor9o
    @Skor9o Před 3 měsíci +5

    If you think Cade isn’t superstar material, you’re not someone with reliable basketball iQ

  • @elblouses128
    @elblouses128 Před 3 měsíci +2

    22/7/4 on solid shooting has been really good for a guy that hasn't even played two seasons worth of games in the NBA yet and has by far the worst supporting cast of any top pick in the past decade. He's 5th in the number of drives per game, 10th in the number of points on those drives, and has a pass % above 35% on those drives. So there's a lot more to his game than the mid-range and three point shots. He's also 9th in assists this year with a rapidly improving assist::turnover ratio. He's showing he's the best player from his draft class. And right in-line with the development curve that Devin Booker had.

  • @twhite3850
    @twhite3850 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Cade is definitely better than Harden. Who is playing better than Cade from his draft class? I don't see anyone. Cade's only real weakness is the turn-overs. He actually can correct that. I see him improve his 3-ball faster than I've ever seen someone improve their shot. Cade's release is higher and his form is more fluid. Maybe, his defense could be better, but I've seen him get some great blocks.

    • @sir.muffiniii7011
      @sir.muffiniii7011 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Cade is not better than Harden lol, and currently I would take Scottie and Franz without a doubt over him and possibly Mobley too

    • @michaeltomak152
      @michaeltomak152 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Cade might be better than Harden at this point in Harden's career, but that's not to say he's better than peak Harden obviously. As for Franz, Scottie, Evan, and Cade, I think Cade is the easy choice over those guys as only Franz can come close to the ability to create for himself and others. Cade is the better shooter of any of them. Scottie and Evan are obviously much better defensively and I think they would be amazing 2nd guys on a team, but don't have the potential to lead a team like Cade and maybe Franz could.

    • @sir.muffiniii7011
      @sir.muffiniii7011 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@michaeltomak152 were u insinuating that Scottie can’t create for himself or others???

    • @sir.muffiniii7011
      @sir.muffiniii7011 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@michaeltomak152 Franz is already a second option and Scottie scores just as good as Cade, maybe slightly worse, is a slightly worse playmaker, a much better defender and a better rebounder, id take Scottie over both

    • @michaeltomak152
      @michaeltomak152 Před 3 měsíci

      @@sir.muffiniii7011 I'm insinuating that Scottie isn't as good of a self-creator or creator for others, not that he can't at all.

  • @y.j0hnnyboi112
    @y.j0hnnyboi112 Před 3 měsíci +16

    this is a dumb video.. he is clearly a franchise player, he just needs a roster of real nba guys around him

    • @24kminds
      @24kminds Před 3 měsíci

      He has a roster, all the vets and most the scrubs gone now. Now cade and the youngins can play. Duren, Asuar, Stew, Ivey Cade, Sasser, Grimes, and Simone. Everyone else will be gone next year except Wiseman unfortunately.

    • @y.j0hnnyboi112
      @y.j0hnnyboi112 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@24kminds yea now most of the scrubs are gone but monty still plays someone like wiseman 15-20 min a game.. but with this roster now i think cade is gonna blossom

    • @24kminds
      @24kminds Před 3 měsíci

      @@y.j0hnnyboi112 What's wrong with Monty playing James Wiseman. He will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season.

  • @pioneered4722
    @pioneered4722 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Yall fail to talk about his defense

    • @TheGallant9
      @TheGallant9 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Last year he had several plays where he got the block rebound and assist in the same play. 1 was against the Warriors and another I think was against the Hawks

  • @TheAllAroundShow
    @TheAllAroundShow Před 3 měsíci +2

    give Cade the MAX contract

  • @rainbowbabyblog5995
    @rainbowbabyblog5995 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Strange time to post this video when he’s been playing superstar level the last couple weeks, with literally no whistle

  • @davidagledhill
    @davidagledhill Před 3 měsíci

    If Cade got somebody like Reed Shephard playing next to him, he would go next level. Having other shooters will give him more space. The problem with Ivey is that he collapses the spacing offensively because he's such an amazing threat to drive. He also doesn't play much defense. Reed fixes both of those problems. He's a lights out shooter and plays good defense. Ivey would be an awesome 6th man.

  • @foursup3139
    @foursup3139 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Mfs don’t watch Detroit pistons play . Smh

  • @greenecarlos93
    @greenecarlos93 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Imagine bringing up cades ability to finish at the rim and never bring the lack of spacing early in the year that allowed opponents whole team to collapse into the paint for free

    • @dijon.like.the.mustard
      @dijon.like.the.mustard Před 3 měsíci

      exactly! context is everything. my question to anyone who makes videos like this questioning Cade is this: what other prospect in Cade’s class, or any other class, would be succeeding on this Pistons team???
      The answer: none

  • @Zuwoop
    @Zuwoop Před 3 měsíci +2

    Cade is the best player in The 2021 draft and the only ones that are close are sengun,scottie and Mobley but look at the team they have scottie had pascal,og around him Mobley has dmitch,garland,jarret and sengun now has fred and brooks and who does Cade have besides Ivey and duren who are in year 2 and don’t forget he has to play with wiseman and killian and bagley 3 known busts Cade will get his flowers soon if the gm builds around him

  • @tajchoksi6622
    @tajchoksi6622 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Luka and Shai are both play very slowly and do not use their athletisism whatsoever. And yet they're the two best guards in the league by a mile. How is lack of burst a knock on Cade when it's proved the best of the superstars also lack it?
    And his rim efficiency will come. Anyone who watches pistons games can see the lack of spacing, and the fact he gets NO FOUL CALLS. That's not an issue

    • @ry_an.
      @ry_an. Před 3 měsíci

      Wym Shai doesn’t use athleticism? Shai’s always blowing by people

  • @standardyeepz
    @standardyeepz Před 3 měsíci

    at the very least a second option on a winning team imo. he’s been playing great the second half of the season

  • @ARoque-lq2by
    @ARoque-lq2by Před 3 měsíci

    His jersey will hang soon on the Pistons homecourt rafters.
    "Cunningham wears the number 2. in honor of chuck Daly, who managed the bad boy Detroit pistons. the jersey had been retired by the pistons, however, Cunningham asked daley's family to un retire the jersey. as Cunningham wants to restore what Daly built."

  • @RyanGoole
    @RyanGoole Před 3 měsíci +1

    His first 14 games coming off a broken shin he was bad😳. Since then 23/8/4 on 48/39/86 splits in the worst situation itl shows no signs of a future superstar 😂

  • @mbakeman01
    @mbakeman01 Před 3 měsíci

    Cade will be a superstar

  • @TheGallant9
    @TheGallant9 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Really it's 2 nba seasons since he got hurt early in his 2nd season

  • @boohoohoohoo
    @boohoohoohoo Před měsícem

    wonder if the city of detroit just kills players drive and heart.

  • @LukasK1
    @LukasK1 Před 3 měsíci

    Cade is THAT GUY but look at his team

  • @clayjensen8645
    @clayjensen8645 Před 3 měsíci

    Not Cade's fault still believe he's a stud. Got a delusional coach, delusional owner and gm. This is their fault team is bad. He's a beast. Still believe he is gonna be star believe in him. Needs to do it on another team.

  • @boohoohoohoo
    @boohoohoohoo Před měsícem

    how the hell did he get drafted frist

  • @wildanmalik1819
    @wildanmalik1819 Před 2 měsíci

    I think he should be go to spurs

  • @24kminds
    @24kminds Před 3 měsíci

    Why would the pistons fire troy weaver?

    • @TheGallant9
      @TheGallant9 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Folks be mad at Troy for Casey short comings as a coach. The owner was the Issue along with Arn Tellem forcing Troy to hire his son's clients

    • @24kminds
      @24kminds Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@TheGallant9 🎯

    • @24kminds
      @24kminds Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@TheGallant9 arn tellem horrible if cade gets some fair calls he'll be averaging 27 ppg right now. Cade can easily average 28 pt 9 as 7 reb next year with pistons making playoffs.

    • @obi3924
      @obi3924 Před 3 měsíci

      He’s ok at drafting, but he’s terrible at trades and overall roster construction

    • @24kminds
      @24kminds Před 3 měsíci

      @@obi3924 weaver good at both.

  • @samadagoat7769
    @samadagoat7769 Před 3 měsíci

    I don’t see him being that guy he just don’t have it in him

    • @ry_an.
      @ry_an. Před 3 měsíci +2

      He already better than booker was at the same age

    • @samadagoat7769
      @samadagoat7769 Před měsícem

      @@ry_an. booker trash

  • @zoefromthe0
    @zoefromthe0 Před 3 měsíci +1

    When Cade gets traded to the spurs or magic for a 2nd round pick>>>>