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  • čas přidán 18. 02. 2022
  • As of the 31st of March patch, this is now FIXED! Old description below:
    Unranked PvP is broken in Lost Ark right now. We have NO ranked game mode currently in NA/SA/EU. This is likely to come at a later date (usually 1 to 2 months after release). Unranked is the only mode that's available (other than customs), so this is a pretty big deal.
    Forum thread here: forums.playlos...
    Twitch: / lin_null
    #PvP #Matchmaking #LostArk

Komentáře • 125

  • @xleaselife
    @xleaselife Před 2 lety +12

    That explains why me, a Grade 20 player, has seen nothing but Tier 1s for 6 matches. Screw that.

    • @StarKittens
      @StarKittens Před 2 lety +1

      Amen. the matchmaking is so not fair.

    • @slightly_tilted
      @slightly_tilted Před 2 lety +1

      @@StarKittens life isn't fair..take your licks and keep grinding. Fighting against better players makes you better so take it for what it is. Everyone started in the same boat. You're going to have to lose over and over before you can master your class and really become effective.

    • @duane2080
      @duane2080 Před 2 lety

      Ya lost interest immediately. Impossible to learn this way.

    • @duane2080
      @duane2080 Před 2 lety

      @@slightly_tilted NO, not when you cant do shit as you get juggled across the map unable to do anything. What a stupid take

    • @ah111815148199147
      @ah111815148199147 Před 2 lety

      @@slightly_tilted true tho but it's very discouraging for most players

  • @Lecruidant
    @Lecruidant Před 2 lety +7

    If the matchmaking is scuffed. People are going to get discouraged. It's fucking stupid and I wont' be doing it anymore because of this.

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      It's a bug. It should be fixed soon I hope.

    • @duane2080
      @duane2080 Před 2 lety

      Same, it is pointless. Worst pvp I have ever played

  • @vigormortishs
    @vigormortishs Před 2 lety +4

    Hey Lin-0, I am new to Lost Ark but I instantly found you as the main PvP content creator. Gj for you work and how you do approach game and explanations, I do really enjoy it.
    As a PvP focused player, I wonder if it's worth to level to 50 instead of just lv 26, if I only want to play pvp with different toons? (I've already done it but I suppose it was a waste of time, I've done it just to have the chance to unlock skins in the future). Is it worth to play Lost Ark at all (until the fix), if I just want to play PvP? Ofc asking for your personal thoughts. Thank you.

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +2

      You only need level 26 for PvP. Maybe 1 level 50 for Silvers, but daily login rewards should have you covered. It's worth playing PvP if you're new, as you're fighting other new players anyways - just try to make your sessions long and not accidentally reset your MMR. Or do custom games.

  • @Takish
    @Takish Před 2 lety +3

    Greatest pvp content creator, recommending all your videos bruddah

  • @mlt3496
    @mlt3496 Před 2 lety +2

    How are you liking scrapper? Scrapper and Artillerist are actually the two jobs I leveled to pvp as well. First time playing Lost Ark pvp but I’ve been having a lot of fun, your pvp videos were a great help.

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +1

      Scrapper is easily one of my favorite classes. It isn't particularly strong but I love it all the same.

  • @TrialFireWork
    @TrialFireWork Před 2 lety +4

    So it means that, normally, my win count should be fixed all the time and not reseting every day? Lol i thought it was supposed to be that way! I also wish there was some match history so i know my win rate %.

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +1

      When fixed it should display win rate. There will be a menu (to be accessed via Alt+K) that will give you a break down of your win %, K:D ratio, number of matches, etc. on a character per character basis as well as roster wide.

  • @robinmaibals1193
    @robinmaibals1193 Před 2 lety +2

    Over two months later, still nothing is being done to fix the imbalance. Soon also known as never.

  • @Kampfcookie100
    @Kampfcookie100 Před 2 lety +3

    So thats why I have like 1-2 fun games per day where its actually balanced and the rest of the games I just get destroyed completely. They really need to fix it. I dont understand how all these problems occur on this region but in others. Its the same game isnt it?!

  • @sammyb3104
    @sammyb3104 Před 2 lety +1

    Waiting for more streams! First person I look for when on twitch. (Mayjick) btw

  • @Darkness2Maxrocko
    @Darkness2Maxrocko Před 2 lety +5

    So hard to find good youtube channels like this for pvp

  • @vett1635
    @vett1635 Před 2 lety +5

    Matchmaking in other regions = “hey he’s new let’s match him with other new guys”
    VS
    Matchmaking in NA = “MMR!? Must Match Rapidly?”
    Lol NA get CLAPPED!!! Thank you Lin-0 for this and I hope this helped everyone like myself who was getting discouraged by PvP non-ranked.

  • @ikisun3626
    @ikisun3626 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Lin-0 , is it possible to have quickcast in all your abilities ? Tyvm

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      No, you can't choose. Either they have it or not and you can't change it.

  • @ahmedrioo2849
    @ahmedrioo2849 Před 2 lety

    its like i wanna know why evrey sorc pvp ranked game i go in , i get gunners in front of me, i switch to Deathblade i get bards aganist me and no gunners, its kinda annoying

  • @xerofortune
    @xerofortune Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for the explanation

  • @chrisbenn
    @chrisbenn Před 2 lety +2

    Ahh thanks man! ::)

  • @basil1596
    @basil1596 Před 2 lety

    I know you mainly pvp and I love your content, but how do you like scrapper in PvE? Is taijutsu your preferred build?

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      It is yeah. She's my PvE main for now and I love it, never stop pressing buttons.

  • @thexulaz
    @thexulaz Před 2 lety

    Do you play sharpshooter too? You think it's strong enough to be a top tier/GM? Do you plan on doing a build guide on this class? Thanks!

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +2

      I think Sharpshooter is a good class to pick up while in the early levels. It takes a bit to master and sadly suffers at higher levels of play, but by the time you become skilled enough with it for it to matter, they'll have been buffed.

    • @thexulaz
      @thexulaz Před 2 lety

      @@LinNull the kr version of the game has the sharpshooter buffed already? Is it strong there? Thanks!

    • @thesunryze4658
      @thesunryze4658 Před 2 lety

      @@LinNull I'm interested about informations on sharpshooter buff as well. I mainly play Sharpshooter and Striker, and to be honest with you I can't wait to see at least one of those being at least slightly buffed, because after 6 months of PvP I definitely see their weaknesses.
      For now I play Striker because that's the easiest one to outplay opponents with (fast, lots of mobility, good amount of knockups and great disruptor for my zerker and shadowhunter mates) but if sharpshooter didn't feel that bad and had maybe a bit shorter cooldowns (or more consistent damage), I would 100% main it.

  • @antarex4017
    @antarex4017 Před 2 lety

    you're martial artist look so damn good, do you have the presets for it, and if yes would it be possible to share ?

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      yeah I already shared it in the #scrapper chat in the unofficial lost ark discord (discord.gg/lostark )

  • @yelkao4853
    @yelkao4853 Před 2 lety +1

    You go Lin

  • @eb-us6yj
    @eb-us6yj Před 2 lety +1

    I just lost 40 MSR points while being the best player of my team in bronze. my teammates who did nothing (no dmg no kills few assists) lost 16 points. Never seen a game be so trash in competitive mode. Literally impossibe to get to silver even if i win 70% of games

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      That's because you gain and lose more during your first few games. It's a "qualifier" system, where you get x3 points for your first 10 matches, then x2.5 for the next 20, then x2 or so up until your 100th game.

  • @M4RTN11
    @M4RTN11 Před 2 lety +1

    Honestly my friends already gave up on the PVP due to this fact we are all new players with just fresh 50s and we are matched with some extremely skilled players every time up to a point that we are all discouraged to play just to sit in the base and get demolished and didn’t know what’s wrong, we even all changed our champs and nothing change we can’t event get a kill everyone we played had such a coordination and CC follow ups that just feel you can’t do shit, we just recognised that we sucks and now everyone sticks to PVE and probably will not try the PVP again.. good video though

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      Do give the PvP a try again - but wait until the issue is fixed.

    • @jwest3257
      @jwest3257 Před 2 lety

      It is discouraging but see if you can find some more people and do a custom match. Pvp here is very fun and you would be missing out on a lot if you avoided it. I've been having growing pains on deadeye atm but spending a lot of time in training grounds and doing pve content by practicing my pvp combos helps too. When you get a hang start doing the 1v1s so you don't have to worry about fighting 3 at once.

    • @duane2080
      @duane2080 Před 2 lety

      @@jwest3257 it is not fun at all

    • @jwest3257
      @jwest3257 Před 2 lety

      @@duane2080 sounds like you're bad at pvp lol

    • @duane2080
      @duane2080 Před 2 lety

      @@jwest3257 of course, it is bad so why bother getting better

  • @NinjaInstitute
    @NinjaInstitute Před 2 lety +1

    Do we know when ranked is releasing?

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      No, but other regions take around 1-2 months after game release to get ranked

  • @Frostschuss
    @Frostschuss Před 2 lety +1

    that explains my first pvp round 13/0. haha i never play this shit again

  • @invidia44
    @invidia44 Před 2 lety +1

    People told me pvp is balanced in this game thats a godamn lie.

  • @NupidTV
    @NupidTV Před 2 lety

    Has this been adressed yet? I haven't done more than 5 matches a week for weekly stones, but with ranked coming out I would like to practice somewhere before I jump in there.

    • @duane2080
      @duane2080 Před 2 lety

      Same, but cant practice because you get matched with people with hundreds of matches more than you.

  • @gabrielripw0lf293
    @gabrielripw0lf293 Před 2 lety

    thanks for the video, I was about to give up playing lost ark and then pvp.

  • @kryptik2230
    @kryptik2230 Před 2 lety +1

    Lin ♥

  • @dero2430
    @dero2430 Před 2 lety

    I noticed it right away lol. I would have a couple awesome games where I dominated and got me thinking that I'm on my way to GrandMaster...then I get sh*t on for 3-4 games in a row xD

    • @slightly_tilted
      @slightly_tilted Před 2 lety

      You really thought you were on your way to GRAND MASTER after a few good games? Delusional perception of reality dude. Sorry if that offends you, but becoming an actual master of ANYTHING requires some serious time put in and lots of loss along the way.

  • @suzanaprvanovic3069
    @suzanaprvanovic3069 Před 2 lety

    How to play ranked. I hit rank 1 but i think this is not my limit.

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      There is no ranked in NA/EU currently, it tends to come 1-2 months after release. "Tier 1" is not Rank 1, it's just the rank that lets you begin queuing ranked when it does come out.

  • @505soloslider8
    @505soloslider8 Před rokem

    bigger problem: can't even find a match anymore. FOLKS DO NOT DO the proving grounds, they just PVE.

  • @LizzieBeezie
    @LizzieBeezie Před 2 lety +1

    PvP is not balanced at all. Even the MMR is broken. You have people in Diamond/plat with very little matches and i've seen others having nearly the same wins apart from maybe 1-2 losses more and not in the same category. Not to talk about the fact that there are hackers too.

  • @ssykage
    @ssykage Před 2 lety

    ahh I thought it was resetting because I was switching to east to play with friends.

  • @jixx18
    @jixx18 Před 2 lety

    Ya im a grade 20 i always get matched with t1 lol

  • @mrsuperselenio5694
    @mrsuperselenio5694 Před 2 lety

    Literally just had a game like that bunch of grade 17+ vs my team supreme 1,4,7. Needless to say, they killed 2 of us and we killed 10 of them. GradeXX>UltraX>SupremeX>extreme

  • @Viewer13128
    @Viewer13128 Před 2 lety +1

    1:51 what class is he playing?

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +1

      I'm playing Scrapper and am fighting a Gunslinger that engages on me

    • @Viewer13128
      @Viewer13128 Před 2 lety

      @@LinNull ty. what are your top 3 favorite classes to pvp/pve in? and do u find all classes are good in pvp or which ones just don't work well?

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +1

      @@Viewer13128 Honestly I play around 7 classes and I find them all super fun (sorc, arcana, zerk, scrapper, artillerist, summoner, shadowhunter) - there are some classes which perform better than others at different levels, but we're due to seeing some big balance changes after the KR tournament so I wouldn't think about classes that don't work since they most likely are getting changes

  • @Veighar
    @Veighar Před 2 lety

    For me I personally dont mind this I usually learn faster by playing vs better players or watching better players play
    For example I picked Blaster and in my first few matches I stagger > stun > nuke and run away and new players who just got chunked just started playing way back and were afraid
    Few matches in I start getting better players I dont know if they are smurfs or just better but I couldnt even get the stagger in most cases and even if I did combo them they would stick on me and punish my long CDs
    If I keep playing vs the new players Im gonna develop bad habits from which I usually have hard time fixing so the regular stomp helps me realize what mistakes Im making

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      The issue is that you will always fight vs new players. Say you play non-stop for 3 days and build some experience. Everytime you relog you're back to the beginning MMR wise. So you can get vets or you can get other brand new players; you can get anyone really. There's no matchmaking whatsoever, so you can't really track your progress as you don't actually get put with people of similar performance.
      Everyone fights everyone - it's a free for all in terms of MMR.

  • @guccimembrane8820
    @guccimembrane8820 Před 2 lety +1

    PvP is sometimes fun but going against 3 tier 1 players as a team of 3 grade 10+ is very lame

  • @casxenn4216
    @casxenn4216 Před 2 lety

    im really disappointed in the pvp in this game.. it really doesn't seem to be about skill, but more luck on your team you get matched with. If it;s a loss its a loss by 1 kill everytime which fucks your whole mmr then you're stuck at the bottom, its unrewarding and pretty much a joke considering the RNG on your opposing team and your own team.

  • @Gleandra
    @Gleandra Před 2 lety

    Has this been fixed yet? :) PS: Moderate the cheatsellers in your comments?

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      Been reporting them whenever I get notified, but they keep coming. And no, it is not fixed yet.

  • @Dualities
    @Dualities Před 2 lety

    I mean why would one rerrol the same class? when us how footage of rerolling u play the same class. but yeah I have been doing my first 5 matches. admittedly I don't even know the correct combos let alone meta... but I felt Im playing against some decent players already... but idk...

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +3

      What do you mean rerolling same class? I'm just swapping to Sorceress then swapping back to show how it resets. Say that I do PvP on a character, then go do dailies on another, then want to go back to do more PvP? Well it resets. This also happens if you log out or log in - so every day it'd reset.

    • @Dualities
      @Dualities Před 2 lety

      @@LinNull at the start of the video where u said u have like 10 win streak u played scrapper. and then when u talk about rerolling character u still showed scrapper. so I assume u rerolled same class for the video

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      @@Dualities That's the point. It resets even if you go back to the same character. There is no MMR history on swap.

    • @Dualities
      @Dualities Před 2 lety

      @@LinNull yeah but people usally dont swap to the sam class. They swap to another class which u have to learn again. So mmr reset makes sense? But i see your point. U can have a lot of pvp experience and boost a class and copy meta build but still play against noobs

    • @Huncito
      @Huncito Před 2 lety +2

      @@Dualities i doubt.that you understand what is Lin-0 saying..

  • @phatle2737
    @phatle2737 Před 2 lety

    SeemsGood

  • @instinct94
    @instinct94 Před 2 lety

    What is the point of abusing this bug in normal games? Does this provide provide any advantage? If its only for the ego, then they should just permaban the people who intentionally abused the system over and over again.

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +1

      No, but it is more than just intentionally abusable - it is inescapable. Every day someone logs out, they are resetting their MMR. You can't ban someone for logging out of the game. Or for changing characters if they want to try something different.
      It's impossible to track intentional usage or not, it affects everyone because it is so broad.

  • @jeremyn4397
    @jeremyn4397 Před 2 lety

    Good to know. I've been playing pretty well in PvP, but I'm only grade 14 :P

  • @duane2080
    @duane2080 Před 2 lety

    Ya no reason not to be discouraged. Literally unplayable

  • @fezzzost950
    @fezzzost950 Před 2 lety

    I dont worry to much about what tier people are i mean i ive been able to win game up against all tier 1 with new players and ive also lost to new player with a full team of tier 1. As long as my teammates are peeling and im peeling for them i feel confident in a win

  • @frost5890
    @frost5890 Před 2 lety

    what do u think about sharpshooter in rankeds?

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +1

      Good at lower/intermediate level and pretty cheesy, so can climb. Suffers at high levels due to being RNG damage gated and interruptable - might get a buff soon I feel

    • @frost5890
      @frost5890 Před 2 lety

      @@LinNull ty

  • @NeonKix
    @NeonKix Před 2 lety +1

    I'm not sure how I feel about the PvP in this game. I miss battlegrounds or something like summoner's rift, or something with team-based objectives like CTF or KofH. Just anything but pure arenas. I noticed a tweet from the Korean Dev's about adding this but personally speaking, I probably won't touch PvP until that's implemented. Arena's are just so 1 dimensional... boring.. kill or be killed. Zzzzzzz.

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      There already are battleground style arenas, but you can only play them during restricted times. It's the "co-op battle" tab when you go queue. Try doing those next time and see if you like them.
      But yeah, we'll also be having new modes coming in from KR in the future.

    • @pedromfl
      @pedromfl Před 2 lety +1

      Be good or git gud. I don't get what's 1 dimensional about pure pvp. It's literally the best expression of skill you can do and the skill ceiling is huge on this game. There is a lot to learn before you're good.

    • @rodrigovieira1838
      @rodrigovieira1838 Před 2 lety

      @@pedromfl I think he wanted some mode where not only skill matters, but strategic decision too. Well, I'd like to try on this kind of modes, but I'm loving arena so far.
      BTW, anyone knows when ranked is coming ?

    • @Viewer13128
      @Viewer13128 Před 2 lety +2

      @@pedromfl he's not complaining about getting killed, he's saying he wants pvp with a purpose. for example lineage ii in the past had guilds pvp'ing to boot the other guild away from a raid boss, or parties organized to steal raid bosses, or sieges to defend or capture a castle/city, or ppl just fighting for farming spots, revenge, etc. he's saying the arena is just 1 dimensional mindless killing cycle like an arcade fighter game. the arena doesn't really capture the 'mmorpg' meaning. it's just small-scale repetitive mini-game pvp, not mmorpg pvp.
      plus, arena pvp has a match making where u just fight and say bye. we're not even organizing parties in the town, then timing when to go in and against who, and we dont' even know for what reason cause it's just a mini-game mode. it's like the pvp isn't mmorpg. in fact, auto matchmaking kinda ruins mmorpg even in pve cause traditionally, we need to make friends or join a guild to be able to form parties, not just random match.
      basically, if it's gonna be this format, he just wants maybe an objective/mission style pvp, or if they can break free of this mini-game format, then an mmorpg pvp experience is even better.
      if u have arena pvp on top of all the mmorpg pvp, then that's a complete mmorpg pvp imo, where arena holds the highest glory. but if u have just arena, it's lacking for a mmorpg imo.

    • @duane2080
      @duane2080 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Viewer13128 ahh the good old days. Sadly Wow ruined pvp forever

  • @MiNCRUM
    @MiNCRUM Před 2 lety

    Is this fixed?

  • @chumbawumba9157
    @chumbawumba9157 Před 2 lety +1

    Still broken

  • @jonnymario771
    @jonnymario771 Před 2 lety

    Im just going for deathmatches and im having fun...
    Some guys are clearly like so much better though, getting more than 8 kills while others have 2~3

  • @bryanmoyna9715
    @bryanmoyna9715 Před 2 lety

    It still is scuffed. Ive seen both extremes of the matchmaker in ranking, is ridiculous. Frustration is impossible to dodge, i got close to silver 3 times, and every single time the matchmaker rigged the next 10 matches to guarantee my team loses no matter what and put me back in 1300 or less. I did my best every time even when losing, managed to save 1 or 2, but when the matchmaker doesnt stop giving u sht, what can you do but wonder if uninstalling the game is the best option :S
    Anyway, i know ppl will quit because of this AND other issues with the game.

  • @driklol
    @driklol Před 2 lety +3

    AGS screwing something up? Unheard of.

  • @dozegamin8604
    @dozegamin8604 Před 2 lety

    There is a good number of experienced players grade 20-15, many played in korea or russia.

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety +1

      It takes less than 4 wins to go from Grade 20 to 15. You may find them once but not frequently, as they'll have levelled up quickly. The vast majority of G20-15s are new players, overwhelmingly so. Most vets are already at Tier 1, but it doesn't matter, since the G20s will get matched with T1s.

    • @dozegamin8604
      @dozegamin8604 Před 2 lety

      @@LinNull i am not very good at pvp, but when i see a grade 18 doing over 1 million damage, i know he played more than 2-3 games

    • @goblinkruxx9207
      @goblinkruxx9207 Před 2 lety

      @@dozegamin8604 must be playing bots bro

    • @dozegamin8604
      @dozegamin8604 Před 2 lety

      @@goblinkruxx9207 i was one of them bots.

  • @Xyz-cr2sg
    @Xyz-cr2sg Před 2 lety

    No wonder. I was grade 20 vs someone with 30 winning streaks. Still fun tho.

  • @KleinesLichtable
    @KleinesLichtable Před 2 lety

    the complete Pvp is broken in this disgustaaang game

  • @tegridyfarmer2581
    @tegridyfarmer2581 Před 2 lety

    it is the most garbage system is ever saw in a mmo

  • @The_Draque
    @The_Draque Před 2 lety

    played 10 games to complete my unas weeklies. first time pvp lost ark player lost every single game got zero kills. every single game they stomped us. not a fun time and i probably wont pvp much after this

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      it's worth to pvp after, just wait until this is fixed first

    • @duane2080
      @duane2080 Před 2 lety

      Me either and I mainly pvp in every mmo. This pvp is shit

  • @fredi4113
    @fredi4113 Před 2 lety

    matchmaking is generally broken. also for chaos dungeons and raids

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      That's a different issue due to server load. The matchmaking here is a bug specific to PvP MMR matching

  • @blocksanders9787
    @blocksanders9787 Před 2 lety

    xD dont worry about that u getting smashed by china number one players and the best part was "just enjoy the game" 😂😂😂

  • @goldfish1305
    @goldfish1305 Před 2 lety

    hardcore clickbait title

    • @LinNull
      @LinNull  Před 2 lety

      tried to keep honest but the algorithm doesn't really help so a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do - analytics backs it up too sadly