2017 KTM 1290 Super Adventure S - First Ride and Review!
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- The new 2017 KTM Super Adventure S is available!! What a bike!! This doesn't disappoint at all, in fact, we think that with the steps forward that KTM have made on this bike, especially the dashboard and connectivity, they could about to shake up the bike industry!
A well though out, planned and executed, versatile and super bike!
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Traded in my 2015 1290 SA for a 1290 Super Adventure S, I just love this bike it really is an amazing machine, they seem to have just got everything to work better than the 1290 SA. Now the contentious bit, the Super Adventure S versus the GS, what the GS does far better is integration with the Sat Nav and if you what a shaft drive then it’s a GS.
What the 1290 gives you is a totally engaging riding experience with an engine and gearbox that is magical, add the quick shifter and it just brings it to a new level of superlative. I also enjoy the individuality of the 1290, I guess that there are so many GS’s on the road is a mark of its quality but it also makes it somewhat commonplace.
Where BMW do score is in the dealer experience, you need to find a great KTM dealer and not all of them are. You can be pretty sure that every Motorrad dealer will look after you not always the case with KTM’s network, however, having found one I like I am prepared to travel some way to get my KTM needs sorted.
The GS is a great bike but the 1290 S gives me bigger ticks in more boxes.
I ride a k1600b bmw but want one of these bikes you comments have been very helpful
Absolutely amazing bike, the LC 8 engine is tried and tested also in its lesser variations and found to be super reliable. Cannot wait the year and a half to retirement to get this beast. Thanks for the video.
+Roger Morello glad you liked the video. Thanks for the kind words :)
Awesome .., I hope you guys also go over the "R" version in detail covering all the nitty gritty
You will find the quick shifter works very well with more revs . Great bike and a massive leap forward over the BMW Gs range. I've owned bmws for years and after riding a Ktm no more BMW.
+Mark Shirley certainly is a great bike and in many ways groundbreaking :)
Integrating the SatNav into the awesome instrument cluster/display unit and Programmable LED cornering lights such that they all can be used at the same time for extra illumination are 2 great suggestion for KTM to implement in their next iteration.
it would be an amazing addition to the screen. Lets hope that they do it :)
Gdd
Great review guys with reference to the chain drive. We had a customer that had a long trip planed on a 1190 Adventure R he has covered 27000 miles on the same chain and sprockets. Here is what he said.
The DID has done very well. Richard fitted it new before I set off to Magadan 27,200 miles ago. Good going on a 150hp v-twin, in a wide range of conditions from the sands of Mongolia and Morocco, to the gritty mud of the Road of Bones. Lasted longer than most GS final drives :-D Hardly ever been cleaned apart from with a pressure washer. The majority of credit must go to my Scottoiler, which I've always run with the bare minimum of oil flow.
+rgrills1 hey mate thanks for the kind words. That's a good point about the chain, and wow, that guy did well!
rgrills1 : Agree....I have an oiler on my 1290 and haven't even tensioned the chain for 13.000km....chains are very good nowadays.
Great review of what seems a great bike.The down side is no shaft drive(Easy to maintain,get rear wheel off etc)and if you do dirt riding the BMW airfilter is still better to maintain etc.
+Bruce Kendall very true :)
I was very interested in the comments around the quickshifter and the fact that it was not up to the standard of the BMW. Having ridden both bikes I would have to agree with that conclusion, however, there is a much better system out there and that's the DCT gearbox on the Honda Crosstourer it is probably the best gearbox I have ever used. It is funny when other bikers who are happy to ride with a quickshifter comment that they would never ride an automatic, well apart from using the clutch to start and stop the bike the only difference with the DCT is you use levers on he handlebar to change gear instead of the gear lever but Honda provide a gear lever option. The DCT option should be available on all bikes in my opinion
+bampie1 good point mate. My mate has an Africa twin fitted with an auto clutch. Quite strange as I've only ridden a clutched bike but he says the same that it's so smooth. Gotta try one now :)
Interestingly the resale values of a DCT are far lower than that of a clutched bike, when I traded in my NX750 the dealer was really concerned that it might be a DCT model.
Nice review of a great bike. Definitely on my radar when I change my bike.
+Peter Lewis thanks matey. A great machine :)
Great review, thanks! Audio is very clean too, but (maybe only in my case) super soft! Can bearly hear you with volume up all the way.
+EP VB thanks for the feedback. Will see what we can do for the next ones ;)
Just for your info the audio was spot on in my device.
+Roger Morello ah that's brilliant. Thanks Roger :)
Not at all loud enough. Turn up the volume.
EP VB jjkjjjhh
Wow what a great video..thanks for all the info. To be honest i think ill go for this color scheme over the 2019s. The silver hasn’t completely sold me yet. Well see.
thank you so much for the kind words, it means a lot to us both. what an incredible bike too! loved this one!
RiderCamTV very welcome! Yea you truly cant go wrong with this one.
Nice review my man,Very informative.Keep up the good work:)
Hey matey, thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed the vid. Ride safe :)
love this bike, and love that it does not have a heavy, power robbing, ugly shaft drive! people don't realize a good chain and sprocket can match or outlast shaft components with very little maintenance while keeping weight down and power up... ... ktm made a wise decision not to follow suit with other shaft bikes... ps... any issues with heat???
A great bike indeed, and what power too! I think you do get some heat from the pipes under the seat, although you can get a cover for them from KTM for mitigate the amount of heat coming through. But great bike all the same :)
there is a ktm app for your phone, if you download it you can pair the phone with the bike and you can use your phone as a satnav and the directions appear on the tft screen, also if you have an intercom paired with the phone you will get voice direction as well
Great review, cheers :) You don't have to use the kill-switch to turn the bike off, you can just press the ignition button again. :)
Thanks for the kind words matey, yeh you can, don’t know why we didn’t like on our GS’s. 😂
Very good informative review thanks.A couple of points I think should be mentioned,KTM do not do a low seat version of this bike so for riders like myself,5ft 9" with 29" inside leg,it's a lost sale for KTM.This model is I think,is aimed at the touring rider hence the cast wheels.At first look,the bike seems well priced at £14200 but when you kit it up for even basic touring specs,your getting near £1700 mark.Everything a tourer needs for example heated grips,is an optional extra! what's that all about?To sum up,Yes a great bike but I'll be staying with my fully speced GS TE LC,with the low seat option.
+Brian smith couldn't agree more matey. Thanks for the kind words :)
It's the hidden costs of extras that gets us all.
Love the KTM 1290 ADV
You only get the full 160 at high RPM, it's the massive torque that is "working its socks off" at the lower RPM. :)
HP (power) is work done.
But I know what you meant. :)
Thanks for the video!
+EU Bike Dude thanks for the tip :)
Wow that looks like a serious impressive bike. I've always been drawn to BMW because of the tech, but KTM are now ahead. Shame the cruise control isn't designed to work in 20/30 limits as I find it great for that. Sure I could tolerate a chain for that screen alone! Many thanks for the review guys, I'm off to join the KTM forum now :-)
+DervMan I'm with you on the cruise control. I use it all the time in 20's and 30's. that screen is certainly going to put other manufacturers under pressure I'm sure. Glad you liked the review :)
I am surprised none of the manufacturers have added the option of a speed limiter. It's something I use continuously in the car, in fact it's made the cruise control redundant, well other than on quiet motorway journeys. With the hike in speeding fines it's a feature I'd love to see, especially on a bike with this amount of grunt!
So true +DervMan, anything to keep the licence these days is a huge bonus :)
I've heard from an owner of the bike that CC apparently works from 40km/h to 200km/h in 3rd and up.
Rather than just guessing in the video it would have been better to actually try it and verify.
+EU Bike Dude thanks for the comments. Interesting to hear the real world limits as I was using the info from the dealer ;)
I'll give that feedback. 👍
Appreciate the review and effort. Thanks..
+Tee Macmahoney thanks matey, glad you enjoyed it. Ride safe :)
I hope they manufactured that coloured screen to a higher standard than the switchgear. My left side handlebar switch failed on my 1290SA...covered under warranty, but they should be built to last more than 1500km. Apparently it's a known problem.
+Ronan Rogers that's true, I think all manufacturers have some of those issues as with the GS And RT's their switch gear had a known issue a couple of years ago too. Let's keep our fingers crossed :)
The only reason for the floating luggage are the instability problems at high speed (150+ km/h) of the previous 1190 models. There was also a report about a serious accident. Not really relevant in UK or Austria but seems to be very important for Germans :P
+Christoph M ah, that's interesting, thanks for the info matey :)
Christoph M yup, they put the floating system after fatal accident in Germany
Thanks again for an extremely holistic review of this new bike. I'm still torn on a new adventure bike. I'm selling a Diavel Strada that's seeing very little use and was considering either the new Multi S 1200 or a GS Rally or now this...Help me decide! We've got miserable road conditions here but I'm not planning any off-road excursions. I also have a BMW Scrambler that i absolutely love (no LKnobby tires don't worry!) but I need a weekend bike that is comfortable, but also won't make me miss my Diavel too much! Also, how is the clutch feel on this bike? After riding an HD street glide for so long, I now have severe left wrist tendinitis and the Scrambler riding position doesn't help on long journeys either. That's where the GS really shines I guess (comfort) but I have zero experience with KTMs. Is the clutch feel hard like the BMW XR for example? Oh and thanks!!!! Keep up the amazing work!
+Houssam Chihabi thanks for your really kind words, it's really appreciated :)
Out of the multi S or the GS rallye, I'd choose the rallye (but that personal choice) but for me it's a GS that looks awesome, is tweaked and you know what your getting, although I would invest in a centre stand :)
On the KTM a front, I was amazed by the 1290 super adventure S. A really capable bike that is fun to ride, got loads and loads of power and will certainly put a smile on your face. The clutch was light and firm, certainly didn't feel hard. The whole bike just 'flowed' :)
Ride safe buddy.
it's looks amazing bike I can see why people are leaving the gs to go over to ktm .but it would be interesting to see what the reliability will be like
+peter foster I like my GSA but I think KTM have made an exceptional bike :)
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Good video and review. ..one thing though research the purpose of the floating luggage and report back thanks!
Thanks for the kind words matey.
The floating luggage is to maintain the integrity of the luggage itself and the contents. It’s designed to move slightly to not only stop things inside jolting around too much but also to stop them getting damaged and reducing the oscillation (keeping the bike more stable) of the bike when moving, particularly at speed.
RiderCamTV very good thanks for the reply...I had heard that the movement of the luggage was related to the stability of the bike at speed...thanks for confirming
No probs :)
Thanks Toby and Mark for another great video. Very impressed with that screen and as you say, it brings in into the 21st century; however, the contrast is the very 70's looking hydraulic reservoir! I do like the bike but would only consider one if it had shaft drive; spoke with Simon Weir from Ride magazine about it last year and he said he didn't think KTM sold enough bikes to warrant the research and development. Maybe they would if they put the investment in! Ride safe guys. Cheers, Andy
+Andrew Tofts hey mate, thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it. I hadn't thought about the reservoirs but now you mention it they do look dated. Haha.
It needs a shaft drive, would be awesome if they did that. Ride safe :)
Although there are rumours that KTM are working on "an alternative drive system" whatever that means. :)
Interesting!
+EU Bike Dude now that sounds interesting.
I'm kind of hoping it might be something like 2-wheel hydraulic drive with the rear feed going inside the swing arm (I can dream right). :)
That would actually do away with the gearbox and need for a quickshifter too.
Probably it's something totally different though.
I cant believe how many guys ride bikes and panic about maintaing a chain, its like listening to my wife telling me shes broke a nail! Man up fellas
This video was filmed 6 years ago and we have changed our opinion
Amazing review 👍🏻
thanks matey, glad you enjoyed it :)
hallo everyone !
my friend has one 2017 super adventure s and we are trying to disable the MTC but nothing happens. The bike cannot perform a proper wheelie and drifting . any ideas about what's going wrong ?
+Loukas Kottas mmm. Not sure about that one matey sorry :(
Hi!Great review,i would like to ask if this is a very agressive bike for someone who is used to ride less powerful bikes like a 650 v strom.I really like it but i think that maybe is too difficult for me.Thanks a lot!
+Μανος 13 thanks for the kind words. It is lively but smooth all the way through the power band. It's very responsive and I'd really suggest trying one out and once you have I bet you won't go back to 650 :) ride safe matey.
Maybe you wouldn't get a judder when using the quick shifter if you actually opened the throttle significantly, and moaning about the vibration in 6th gear at 40mph is ridiculous, as your obviously in the wrong gear!
thanks for the comments, and yes the quick shifter is smoother with significant opening of the throttle, but unfortunately, the speed limit was 60mph. i dont think it was unreasonable to mention the judder in the gear at 40, as i was ttrying to give an honest opinion about the 'real world issues' faced. ride safe :)
You make a valid point, but it would also have been good to comment on how it felt when pushing it a bit too.
Stick it into 3rd and blast around some twisties and you could switch down to 2nd and up to 4th and still be under the speed limit if you are careful maybe and comment on how it compared to tootling along. :)
+EU Bike Dude might have to do a part 2 then ;)
Definitely! Maybe find a "private road", airstrip or track ... :-)
Or a sticky note for the speedo! ;)
+EU Bike Dude now that's a thought! :)
indeed the chain drive is a downside .. what about the mid range rpm .. is it smooth or u can feel vibration ?
+MJ Motors it was smooth to be fair. A little vibey on the throttle hand but that was probably me gripping too tight, but no vibes through the legs at all and no noticeable vibration through the bike at mid range. It's a fab bike to ride and I think KTM Are changing the game. :)
RiderCamTV , one more question but i need a honest answer 🙄. would u replace ur GS with this 1290 ?
+MJ Motors hi, thanks for the question. I do love my GS Adventure. I won't be replacing it at the moment but I was blown away with the thought that KTM have put into this bike. I'm sticking with the GSA as it suits my needs more, and I've never been a fan of chains. If KTM brought out a shaft drive, perhaps that would make me consider it.
It likely also needs to be run in. My K1300S was mad vibey around 5000 rpm from new, it took about 3000km to reduce and then went away completely.
+EU Bike Dude very true :) but what an awesome machine
Hello everyone.
I was given my ktm super adventur S 2 weeks ago.
I do not notice the difference between the different modes of suspension
.., The comfort mode is very hard and uncomfortable,Almost the same as
sports mode
Do you have the same problem?
Excuse me for my English
thank you for your comments. The settings did change the feel for me, but not a great deal. even though not specifically noticing the change in comfort but certainly noticed the change in power and bike response :)
Yeah, I also notice changes in the power engine modes.
But in the suspension modes I do not notice changes, my bike is very hard, very uncomfortable in conford mode.
thanks
I tried it ,it felt like i was falling over the front handelbars.
It is bouncy but a great bike :)
Tidy review that mate, subscribed on the back of it. Been looking at one of these, I have a 2014 BMW GS ADV at the min, how do you think it compares ? Worth a look ?
+Mark Mclean hey Mark. Thanks for the kind words and the sub :)
I think it compares really well to be honest. The advances in onboard tech on the KTM are immense! The chain still bothers me though and I'm sticking with my gsa as I have a few tours planned this year, but even though I never thought I'd say it, it's definately well worth a look. I'm not sure there's enough for me to move from the boxer engine but I think it's an awesome machine. Just wish I had enough money to have both. Haha. Ride safe matey :)
Yeah the chain thing is food for thought !! Other thing is how thin it might be, kind of got used to the battleship like dimensions of the GSA so it may be a bit 'small' if you know what I mean. The dash, power, electronics etc sure make it look like a tempting package though. Anyway, stay safe mate and keep up the good work (just gonna check out a few more of your vids).
+Mark Mclean I strangely loved the thinness of it, although I know my heart lies in my GSA. Hope you enjoy our other vids. Great to have you as a subscriber ;)
Mark Mclean i really liked the bike but the chain is an issue. That said its an awesome bike which BMW cannot ignore...
It's definitely one I am going to look at and then if the positives outweigh the negatives of the chain drive I may well consider it. Speaking to the local BM dealer though he reckons the GSA is due a fairly big update next year....
Any heat issues under the seat?
+Hector we didn't notice any heat issues at all on this one :)
Nice! 1 question however...Does the 2017 KTM super adventure S digital "screen" come with the a Navigation display?
+E. Simons hi, thanks for the question and comments. The display is not yet equipped with sat nav although speaking to the dealer it's something that could possibly be a future upgrade. So I think a separate sat nav is the way to go at present. Hope this helps :)
is it better than GS/GSA?
+M Rajsic it depends what your looking for in a bike, it is a great machine :)
M Rajsic I currently have a 2015 SuperAdv with a view to changing it. In the last few weeks I have tried the GSA and Multistrada S versions on extended test rides. Previously I have owned 2 x GS bikes and the GSA and MS were always on my wish list. First off was the MS and this was my very first ride on a MS. Into the Northumbria roads round Hadrian's Wall and the bike was very good to ride. The weather wasn't good and I was fighting against strong side winds. Couldn't even hear the engine due to the wind noise, but could that bike pull. Typical Duke engine and I have had a few 1098 engine bikes. This was a bike I could live with and it was ideal for my regular 30" inside leg where my higher seat KTM fills me with apprehension when I need to stop. With only 6 miles on the clock the gearbox was very tight with quite a few false neutrals but this would free up in time. Not as comfy or rider protected as the KTM but still great to ride. Next day was a ride out round Durham on the GSA, the bike I wanted to love so I had left it till last. I knew from previous GS bikes that this was going to be smoother than the KTM and again easier to handle due to the lowered suspension for us height deficient chaps. Didn't disappoint in most areas and I would be more than happy with one especially the seating position where one sits "IN" a GSA against sitting "ON" the KTM. Creamy smooth for a twin and brill switch gear combined with the Motorrad sat nav unit. Not so good points include the "box of hammers" engine noise and this bike had only covered 300+ miles. It was a windless day so whereas yesterday I couldn't hear the Duke, today no wind noise and sitting in comfort, the engine noise was evident. On a quick comparison, it appeared to be quite thirsty over the KTM with normal riding but I'm sure this would be reversed if pushed hard against the KTM. The only problem I ever had with my previous GS's was top end acceleration. 95% of the time it was the only bike you would ever need but when it needed to be pushed on motorways it was just lacking that extra bit of grunt. This is still evident with this 125bhp model too. No doubt it is quicker than old but compared to the KTM or Duke, it is a more relaxed gentleman's ride. On good country roads it would not be disgraced and could be well in front if in capable hands, but it hasn't got that extra grunt when required. Overall, all great bikes and I would be more than happy with any. But my next choice is going to be the new KTM SuperAdv S. Bike ordered and I'm still going to be apprehensive about dropping the bike when coming to a stop. But it's in between the stops that matters.
+Chris Malloy col, enjoy the KTM matey, awesome bike :)
The Ducati box does not free up, the false neutrals are there forever (unless you mod them) and if anything the shifting will get notchier and clunkier and in the case of mine 4th gear disappeared completely! By comparison the KTM gear shift (I did 300km on a 1050 today) is silky smooth.
+EU Bike Dude blimey, that's not good. My GSA is silky smooth too. ;)
Boring review
Given its chain drive,I’d have to pass.👎
It does not come with the option of spoked wheels. Please before you guys decide to try a review on bikes brush up on your product knowledge.
Ps unlike BMW the back of your legs d0 not get dirty at all.
Regards
+Mark Shirley thanks for the comments. Our reviews are reviews of bikes from our perspective but thanks for pointing that out. Ride safe :)
It has spoked wheels (cast spoked wheels) as standard and you can get wire spoke wheels as options, they are in the configurator ... you end up with two sets of wheels though.
+EU Bike Dude I thought so ;)
Thanks matey. Could do a lot with 2 sets of wheels :)
54mpg! ... must have been riding it like a mouse.
+Pip Pipster hahha. That's what the computer said on it :)
Pip Pipster like a Baby mouse. U can see it on video. Cars overtake him 😅🐀
Watch 44 teeth's review!
+Aldred Squash will do :)
Don't see the point of the S (for street) variant. If you're only ever gonna ride on the street, get a BMW XR. Lighter, more composed and agile due to shorter suspension travel, better sound. If only the 'R' had the semi-active suspension and the taller screen of the 'T'...
Some of us want an engine we don't have to rev the nuts off for it to perform. ;)
+EU Bike Dude true true
EU Bike Dude had an xr 👎 shite. No punch and too vibey. The Ktm eats it and costs much less to service
very different bikes!you have a inline 4 in the xr which of course is smooth,then the KTM has the v twin with punchy low down torque and the one thing that the beamer lacks..... CHARACTER!!
ktm😆
its awesome :)
KTM DOES NOT WARRANTY THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM!!! BIG TIME DEAL CHANGER, IT WILL COST THE CONSUMER A FORTUNE TO REPLACE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS. LOOK ELSEWHERE!
that's a bit short sighted of them. I'm sure under the consumer protection and sale of goods act for an item having to be serviceable for a reasonable amount of time (in the UK) would help to overcome this if there were issues, but nevertheless it's not good if it's not included in the warranty.
No need to SHOUT
For me, KTM is football, BMW is rugby! I do not like football!
+Sérgio André that's what I like about motorbikes, there is something for everyone :)
That's right, nothing more beautiful than a group of motorcyclists sharing the same road, the same joy, same passion, carry education and respect in the suitcases, wherever they go, earn more friends, are values that are found in rugby! In football, it is violence and stupidity, to fall apart, that there are many lovers of football in BMW, but there are also many lovers of rugby in KTM! Now that's what matters!
+Sérgio André well said that man! I love motorbikes and the community that comes with it. A group of friends that you ride with as well as friends yet to meet :)
Sérgio André
twaty comment
Graham Hewitt,
What is: "twaty comment"? An expression of football ?!
It must be from these people ...