Was It Worth It To Buy A Modern Event Deck? | A Magic: The Gathering Reaction

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  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 3 měsíci +26

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    • @wadewilson5712
      @wadewilson5712 Před 3 měsíci

      green depending on the shade used is a relaxing color and a good choice for the bedroom

    • @billberndtson
      @billberndtson Před 3 měsíci

      Prof, I'd probably go in for a The Professor Reacts channel if you had one but, we'd probably pressure you eventually to watch Star Wars. 🙂

    • @Aigis31
      @Aigis31 Před 3 měsíci

      Too bad Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar couldn't help with this ad read. I'd listen to the author of the Underworld Cookbook!

    • @palemoogle3049
      @palemoogle3049 Před 3 měsíci +1

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  • @levirynearson5800
    @levirynearson5800 Před 3 měsíci +775

    You honestly got me. I was like "oh I missed these modern decks for MH3" and I was excited cuz I would really like an easy foot in to modern.

    • @Eraxley
      @Eraxley Před 3 měsíci +40

      Yeah I didn't realise until I saw one of the decks being named "Rakdos *Scam*", which WotC wouldn't call it. I was so hype for nearly a couple of minutes!

    • @NameEntry
      @NameEntry Před 3 měsíci +7

      You can if you buy four of each.

    • @Delimeatl8i
      @Delimeatl8i Před 3 měsíci +6

      @@NameEntry which is still only a third of the cost of a modern deck lol

    • @alonsoboulevard
      @alonsoboulevard Před 3 měsíci +3

      i was so excited even thinking to buy one for mi cousin to play, :/ i want to play modern so bad but i just can't afford a deck right now

    • @EastToWestTCG
      @EastToWestTCG Před 3 měsíci +7

      I think he's intentionally trying to prove a point, while showing WotC that they missed the mark on this one.

  • @LegenVD
    @LegenVD Před 3 měsíci +133

    I picked up the event deck back in the day as one of my first Modern decks.
    With a few upgrades it was good enough to make day two at a Grand Prix.
    Another issue is the lack of "events" to play the event decks.

  • @donald422
    @donald422 Před 3 měsíci +433

    As a magic player that does not like commander, I am not mad that commander is the most popular format. I'm not even mad that its what wizards supports the most. I'm just mad that it is the ONLY thing that is accessible to new players. its so sad that magic had such enormous growth the past few years, but all of that went to commander, because wizards refuses to do good entry 60 card decks for their other formats. it just seems that doing a somewhat regular series of challenger decks would be so good for other formats is such a no brainer, that i can only assume its intentional that they don't. even if it was a cycle of every year they change what format they print challenger decks for (year1 standard, year 2 pionneer, year 3 modern) it would go a long way for just helping get new players into each of those formats...

    • @SparkyUpstart
      @SparkyUpstart Před 3 měsíci +20

      Hit the nail on the head. I love commander but it's very premise means that it doesn't require the amount of support it's received.

    • @michaelh.1484
      @michaelh.1484 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yeah how they manage it is what's horrible. Like Standard it's healthy when it's only 4 sets, after that it's unbalanced to the point you might as well play an eternal format. And just cost alone is a reason for why Commander is so accessible. Not even getting into how casual it can be because of the group setting. Like where I live people only play Modern and Commander. And Modern is just crazy expensive. Pioneer is fun, it's just you got to have people to play with. Standard, the challenger decks were pretty good it's just they would release them literally within 6 months before they rotate out. And that's really insane poor management. Like Pokemon I bought the Palkia VStar league battle deck back when it first came out, and it wasn't until this month when it had cards rotate out. And by this point there were already better upgrades and tech options. Even the Mew Vmax league battle deck that came out before has been in standard until this month, and that was released back in November 2022.

    • @Knights_Oath
      @Knights_Oath Před 3 měsíci +11

      Commander is the reason I got back into Magic. I am frustrated that Commander is becoming more like other formats like Modern. I agree the complete lack of support for other formats from WOTC is maddening. I remember when they had precons for new sets for Type 1, now what they call Standard.

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@Knights_OathType 1 is Vintage. Type 2 is what Standard used to be called. Type 1.5 was what Legacy was back in the 90s. Extended evolved into Modern after going through numerous lengths of rotation cycles.

    • @zaneghiskhan
      @zaneghiskhan Před 3 měsíci +2

      I learned how to play Magic with kitchen table 60 card decks, and it's how I believe every new player should learn the game... players being introduced to the game only in the context of 100 card singleton is bizarre to me. since deckbuilding with only copies of basic lands and 4 players at a table is a more complicated way to be thrown into learning an already highly complex game, AND, it is simply not the fundamental nature of TCGs.
      Commander as the default beginner format to Magic is not how Richard Garfield played and, perhaps, never intended.
      And I say this as an avid fan of singleton formats, including commander

  • @Ghost26968
    @Ghost26968 Před 3 měsíci +107

    "And I am old. So old."
    But not as old as Josh Lee Kwai!

  • @LoveYouFor10000Years
    @LoveYouFor10000Years Před 3 měsíci +194

    You had me !!! I was getting excited to pick up a MH Event deck 😂

    • @Shimo57
      @Shimo57 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Me too!

    • @austinkrigbaum730
      @austinkrigbaum730 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Honestly with so many different products coming out I seriously thought I missed MH event decks being announced and I was STOKED

    • @MagickP00dle
      @MagickP00dle Před 3 měsíci +7

      The joy you felt should have given it away

    • @nicholascabalbag9755
      @nicholascabalbag9755 Před 3 měsíci

      Our joy and excitement seems to be as fleeting as the money in whales' wallets.

    • @stratavosstuff7575
      @stratavosstuff7575 Před 3 měsíci

      that murktide deck was looking good.

  • @peeporiot9948
    @peeporiot9948 Před 3 měsíci +223

    I am exclusively a commander player and always cringe at how much we've infected other formats. We had out own (albeit crappy) modern horizons; we don't need to be catered to every set

    • @Sillimant_
      @Sillimant_ Před 3 měsíci +20

      God it's so annoying, all these pushed cards clearly meant for commander that break every format they're in bug me to no end

    • @thomasfleming8131
      @thomasfleming8131 Před 3 měsíci +30

      And, personally, I don't want to be catered to every set. It's a casual format, but if every single product Wizards releases has stuff designed for commander, than you can't follow them casually.

    • @Knights_Oath
      @Knights_Oath Před 3 měsíci +4

      They really should exclude Expanded Universes and Commander cards from Standard and Modern. It would benefit all the formats in general. Lord knows I wish all the mega combo 10 min turn crap from other formats. That is now infecting Commander gets on my nerves.

    • @timetuner
      @timetuner Před 3 měsíci +1

      But making healthy formats is hard. If players/pods are willing to do the work of keeping the game fun and fair themselves you can just print whatever sells cardboard.

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@timetunerbut they aren't. I've played at several different games stores since I got back into the game in 2019. Not ONE of those stores had a consensus of Commander players agreeing on anything.

  • @dilbert719
    @dilbert719 Před 3 měsíci +23

    I always (read: for the past couple years, never thought of this before then) thought that what Wizards ought to do was pair Challenger Decks with Secret Lairs. Release, say, a Pioneer Amalia Combo deck at a reasonable rate with a cut-rate mana base and, say, Duress as the discard spell, and then do Secret Lair: Amalia Upgrade with 1x Thoughtseize, 1x Mana Confluence, 1x Temple Garden, and 1x Godless Shrine in the SL drop shortly thereafter. Anyone who wants that immediate boost to their Amalia deck, they can grab a couple of the SLs, and that brings them a lot more in line with the standard deck build, but if they don't have the resources right away, the deck is still there for them to start from and build towards over time.

  • @failfurby
    @failfurby Před 3 měsíci +40

    Mitch said it best: it doesn't cost WotC any more to print a Ragavan than it does to print a full-art Plains. Their attempt to gaslight us into believing otherwise it a ridiculous PR justification that no one actually believes, not even WotC. It would cost them LESS to make Modern precon decks than it does to make Commander precon decks because they are 75 cards vs 100 cards.

  • @marekcallo8807
    @marekcallo8807 Před 3 měsíci +257

    Ah yes.
    Commander decks coming from a MODERN set. Makes so much sense mhm.

    • @hiddenleaf414
      @hiddenleaf414 Před 3 měsíci +2

      It makes sense from a business perspective, which WOTC is a business.

    • @uuu12343
      @uuu12343 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@hiddenleaf414sure, but Magic the Gathering is not, its a card game, which clearly has become a card game with more business logic than game logic

    • @dawildbear
      @dawildbear Před 3 měsíci +1

      Look forward to the Pioneer decks with the next Commander set!

    • @Varillah
      @Varillah Před 3 měsíci

      Aren’t cards in modern legal in commander anyways 🤣

    • @dawildbear
      @dawildbear Před 3 měsíci

      @@Varillah Well yeah, but it'd be real weird if the next Commander set had Modern precons wouldn't it?

  • @kurowasanabe
    @kurowasanabe Před 3 měsíci +277

    It's funny to hear the old microphone again, it's like the prof hit puberty in his mid thirties.

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 3 měsíci +164

      I just realized NOW that this video is so old that I do not even appear on camera.

    • @CSDragon
      @CSDragon Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@TolarianCommunityCollegeexcept your hand!

    • @MorosSilverwing
      @MorosSilverwing Před 3 měsíci

      Wow, you weren't kidding

    • @timw9745
      @timw9745 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yeah the Prof sounds like a member of the Goldfish Podcast

  • @hoodiegal
    @hoodiegal Před 3 měsíci +25

    The lack of support for non-commander formats is honestly ridiculous. When I started playing (Return to Ravnica), I bought a standard legal preconstructed deck that I played for several games and had fun with. After that I bought some booster packs, did some trading, and upgraded it a little bit. Super easy to get into and really fun.
    If I want to get into standard today, what do I do? No amount of money thrown at Wizards will get me a standard-legal precon. "Look up a decklist online and buy those cards" oh okay so in order to play this game that is currently in print, I need to turn to the secondary market, do my own research, buy cards as singles, and construct my own deck to even get started? Brilliant. Not an inconvenience at all.

    • @StickyBombLauncher
      @StickyBombLauncher Před 3 měsíci

      There's no market for precons for competitive formats. They stopped selling that exact product (challenger decks). Casual players don't like competitive formats and competitive players don't want precons.
      Buying cards on the secondary market is how every tcg works. That's just how it is. It's really not that hard these days with massive storefronts like tcgplayer.
      Also crazy to say they don't support other formats when modern horizons has been incredible for making modern interesting again.

    • @hoodiegal
      @hoodiegal Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@StickyBombLauncherthe big issue imo is that there is no entry point for new players. how is a new player supposed to know if they'd enjoy playing a competetive format to begin with, when there is no way for them to even try without buying a $100 deck from a secondary source?

    • @StickyBombLauncher
      @StickyBombLauncher Před 3 měsíci

      @@hoodiegal it's not really a problem. Every tcg is like that. If you are really interested you would just buy the cards, it's super easy to do so now than it ever has been.

    • @hoodiegal
      @hoodiegal Před 3 měsíci

      @@StickyBombLauncherI'd like to direct you back to my original comment; "When I started playing (Return to Ravnica), I bought a standard legal preconstructed deck". These aren't some sort of newfangled innovation i'm trying to push, they're how things used to work. They're how Flesh and Blood works right now. If I go to my LGS website and check the pokemon or yugioh section, there are several "ready to play decks" i can pick up for $10-30. Yet if I want to get into magic, it's $50 commander decks or gtfo.

    • @DarBowsong
      @DarBowsong Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@StickyBombLauncher except it isn't. Most games have some sort of new player friendly, buy and build entry point. Depending on the game they might be very affordable, contain staple/exclusive cards, or be competitively viable with minimal upgrades.

  • @ericjackman1143
    @ericjackman1143 Před 3 měsíci +38

    Hey Prof :) I just want to let you know that you are so loved.
    Seeing this time warped me to the last ten years, and I realized I grew up with you. I was watching that video on release and it brought me to the conversations I had with friends, how I was playing in paper with my brothers, and then it brought me back to some of your most vulnerable moments like talking about depression, shooting videos with your dad, needing to get out of your moldy basement that was probably killing you, and alcoholism. But on the flipside you've had so many bright moments! So very many successes and great memories with folks like Josh, Jimmy, Melissa DeTora, Pleasant Kenobi, and so many more.
    Thank you.

  • @Mattschafli
    @Mattschafli Před 3 měsíci +39

    There are times after playing game three of commander that I say to a friend "we should give another format a try" as they turn thier head to me like a horror movie "there is only commander"

    • @andresvelazquez5922
      @andresvelazquez5922 Před 3 měsíci +13

      I don't like other formats because they're usually 1v1 and having multiple copies of a card that is expensive is too much for me. I however like 2 headed giant, and pauper Commander

    • @Mattschafli
      @Mattschafli Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@andresvelazquez5922 100% agreed, it just feels like wizards wants us to forget 1v1 exists.

    • @travis_approved
      @travis_approved Před 3 měsíci +5

      Should try out oathbreaker! But I also agree it’s a little disheartening that if you want to play magic these days you play commander or you save your money

    • @nobodyimportant72
      @nobodyimportant72 Před 3 měsíci +6

      One thing that I think WotC really misses out on is that 60 card multiplayer format. Is one on one Commander a really enjoyable experience? If the fun is playing against three of your friends why can't you do that using other formats as a guide and basic 60 card constructed rules?

    • @mcpudd1540
      @mcpudd1540 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Pauper is the answer! My playgroup has become a pauper pod that sometimes fires commander. It’s quick, fun and cheap!

  • @cheapsofa6450
    @cheapsofa6450 Před 3 měsíci +35

    I was getting ready to order a Murktide precon - well played professor.

  • @TolarianCommunityCollege
    @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 3 měsíci +5

    New Shuffle Up & Play alert! I teach Crim to love playing Green Commander Decks? Watch here: czcams.com/video/ClrU-0T7tOU/video.html

    • @Skeeeewoah
      @Skeeeewoah Před 3 měsíci +1

      Probably my favorite SU&P episode so far. Thank you for all the hard work Professor.

  • @TheLuckySpades
    @TheLuckySpades Před 3 měsíci +40

    I would absolutely buy a 80USD or maybe even a 100USD modern challenger deck if it were playable, I genuinely would like to get into the format without needing to save up for the deck
    For the price of one of the decks I find interesting I can go and make my next few ideas for commander decks, or bling out one of my main ones, or buy draft boxes to play with friends, or buy the rest I need to make a cube

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ Před 3 měsíci +6

      In order to really make it "playable" out of the box, without putting a huge dent in their much cared about "reprint equity," we'd probably be looking at $250 for a deck. To simply make a playable version sans mana base, they could probably come in at $100. But even then, anyone serious about tournament play would need to spend the money on a usable mana base. I don't think that you get into Modern for less than a few hundred short of genuine budget lists. Even Burn is like $200-$300 now.

    • @TheZeratulsan
      @TheZeratulsan Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@Xoulrath_ I think with how the horizon sets artificially rotate the format that WotC absolutely could print $100 modern precons, but they'd have to look at decks that are already t2, or decks that would get upgraded by cards in the set.
      Imagine a slightly different build of amulet titan because flare of cultivation your grazer puts you to 4 mana on t2

    • @Xoulrath_
      @Xoulrath_ Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@TheZeratulsan oh I believe that they could absolutely do $100 Modern Challenger decks. But as I already mentioned, we'd be looking at them without much in the way of a mama base. Maybe you get a single Fetch and Shock, but the rest are budget options that would eventually get upgraded, and would be a great reason to crack MH3 packs for Fetches.
      For the Prime Time example that you use, a single Cultivation would be cool, then one would crack more MH3 packs to get more. Or more likely buy singles unless the person in question just really wants to crack the packs lol. But it does at least push sales of the new product in some way.

    • @danielolsen3514
      @danielolsen3514 Před 3 měsíci

      What you are saying is you would play the format if you could play the format for less.
      They can do that without event decks.
      They have tried pre-made decks. There's issues one way or another.. price or reprint or archtype (meta changes).
      Commander is casual by nature. A lackluster deck or archtype can still sell. Competitive formats have less room for "functional" decks.

  • @THEpuy
    @THEpuy Před 3 měsíci +14

    Your series of mono-color budget decks for modern was what introduced me to your channel and what made me fall in love with the format. It’s amazing to hear those came about and why

  • @Mcfarad595
    @Mcfarad595 Před 3 měsíci +15

    I actually built that mono-red burn deck with the legacy flexibility. I didn't run fetches in it until Khans. I still have it sleeved minus the fetches and Eidolons I added. I remember getting bullied for running Swiftspear over Goblin Guide lol.

  • @zigh352
    @zigh352 Před 3 měsíci +17

    The idea of "modern" modern precons especially with a set of 4 would make getting into modern so much easier, but commander decks and **collector** commander decks are cool too i guess.. for the modern set.

    • @cowman22ish
      @cowman22ish Před 3 měsíci +2

      Whose cards are not all legal in modern, mind you

    • @JasonOshinko
      @JasonOshinko Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@cowman22ish This criticism doesn't make sense to me. Standard sets have accompanying commander decks that come with cards that aren't legal in standard. It seems like some Magic players want to believe that the player base is smart enough to know the difference and others want to believe the player base is too stupid to know the difference.

    • @danielolsen3514
      @danielolsen3514 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@JasonOshinko
      Because there's no real criticism. It's online people upset that they aren't being catered to. (And by catered to, they want cards they want for less money. Period).
      And so they rant and complain. Without actually thinking critically about things.

  • @a1919akelbo
    @a1919akelbo Před 3 měsíci +10

    4:24 the nostalgia of those sleeves hit me like a freight truck when you pulled them out.

  • @TheNotoriousJTS
    @TheNotoriousJTS Před 3 měsíci +14

    Oh man I was completely fooled by a good idea at the beginning

  • @Igotjello
    @Igotjello Před 3 měsíci +96

    Don't forget, never forget: Mark Rosewater has continually pretended he doesn't see a problem with this on his Blogatog. His responses to "why does a product with the modern name have commander decks" are mind numbing

    • @asteros6387
      @asteros6387 Před 3 měsíci +17

      he tends to default to the excuse that these are the stand in for the yearly commander releases and tying it into mh3 helps with product fatigue

    • @EastToWestTCG
      @EastToWestTCG Před 3 měsíci +41

      You need to keep in mind, he is speaking on behalf of a corporation. He no longer has a singular individual opinion. I'm sure he has many thoughts on the state of the game that he is not allowed to share, as it would be counter productive to Hasbro's vision and their future plans.
      I'm not justifying his statements, but can understand why he's "supportive" of these decisions.

    • @Milligan857
      @Milligan857 Před 3 měsíci +8

      yeah, he can't give his real opinion because the board of directors told him "we want more money this quarter" so he has to give some sort of excuse, and "they're popular" is as good as any

    • @RaunienTheFirst
      @RaunienTheFirst Před 3 měsíci

      Woah, how did you make that into a link?

    • @jjzwak
      @jjzwak Před 3 měsíci +1

      I don't really get everyone's hate on this point. Every other set is made for standard.. and comes with commander decks so what's the difference?

  • @carterb6514
    @carterb6514 Před 3 měsíci +346

    I don’t really understand modern commander decks, it just seems counterintuitive.

    • @TolarianCommunityCollege
      @TolarianCommunityCollege  Před 3 měsíci +58

      What do you mean by counterintuitive?

    • @alexandercastleberry480
      @alexandercastleberry480 Před 3 měsíci +68

      Because wizards probably wants to split the commander format. The original reasoning for several banned cards like the moxen was affordability. Now Lions eye Diamond, Gaea’s Cradle, the OG Duals, etc are more expensive than the mox were when they were banned.

    • @guillermofischer1837
      @guillermofischer1837 Před 3 měsíci +44

      Its easy, WotC just want money. Competitive formats arent as good to monetize than the casual market.

    • @PapaBradford
      @PapaBradford Před 3 měsíci +19

      Because commander products keep selling and its profitable. It's just suits pushing products everywhere until line stops going up, nothing more to it than that.

    • @dmitrifrancisco3912
      @dmitrifrancisco3912 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Monies

  • @GzIiRm
    @GzIiRm Před 3 měsíci

    @Prof. I just wanted to say thank you for all of the wonderful content you create! I’ve been watching your videos the past couple of weeks and have found a new sense of joy by entering the world of MTG collecting thanks to your fun videos! I’m a little older myself, so I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos and spread the awesome vibes you do! Thank you so much and I look forward to watching more! I hope the week and month is wonderful to everyone who reads this!

  • @KCknifecentipede
    @KCknifecentipede Před 3 měsíci +2

    Watching the old video and comparing to now is really interesting, I love to see how the channel has developed over the years and all the little behind the scenes. Thanks for the mh3 review!

  • @Strizzlebop
    @Strizzlebop Před 3 měsíci +2

    As someone who started playing MtG around 2016, I just want to give you a major THANK YOU. You always give me knowledge that other channels lack and I feel like I always get the most bang for my buck when I get cards thanks to your "is it worth it" videos. keep doing what you're doing. thank you for caring about others and the magic community enough to put your time and energy into this

  • @daleboyce1170
    @daleboyce1170 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It was great to see this retrospect on an old video. I remember buying this product as an entry point into Modern. Eventually shifted to Burn for several years. Thank you for the memories.

  • @mateastman1765
    @mateastman1765 Před 3 měsíci

    Good luck on that 1million subs! You deserve it. I just got back into magic after a 4 year break. And your videos have been amazing ro get me caught up haha. Thanks!

  • @timburke7959
    @timburke7959 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love this format! It would be really cool to look at some of your old awesome product reviews and offer new thoughts in real time

  • @elephantofdoom
    @elephantofdoom Před 3 měsíci +3

    I remember I actually bought this as my first ever competitive deck primarily because of your review. I still have that deck, heavily heavily upgraded of course, and I even went back and bought a second event deck a year later because they were selling so cheap and I wanted another feast and famine.

  • @gregallen5025
    @gregallen5025 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I've been a sub for a long time, and I was able to meet you at magic con Chicago. Still think you are a treasure to this community and thanks again for all you do.

  • @NuminorTheFool
    @NuminorTheFool Před 3 měsíci +6

    Honestly, my only thought on the transition from other format decks into just giving us commander decks comes simply from the fact that as a singleton format it means that they can keep card prices high and in demand. With other format decks they'd have to put in multiple of wanted cards, meaning a player only needs to buy a deck once to get a playset of cards that they can use. By switching to commander decks if you want that playset, you're either going to have to go to the secondary market where the price of your wanted card will likely be high or buy three more decks to get that playset. There's also the argument that commander decks mean they can give you a lot more chaff and still make the decks work but with other formats if you try and do that then the decks won't work, meaning again they have to put in actual wanted cards into those decks.

    • @lordsauron8546
      @lordsauron8546 Před 3 měsíci

      I think that's totally why they'd do this. Gotta keep that "reprint equity" somehow...

  • @uuu12343
    @uuu12343 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I love behind the scenes of youtubers, there's something that really adds to relatability

  • @The_Rampant_Lion
    @The_Rampant_Lion Před 3 měsíci +2

    I love this type of content, Prof! I’m a late 90’s standard player who barely picked up the game again. Thanks!

  • @kytewritr
    @kytewritr Před 3 měsíci

    Been watching your vids since the early days, Prof, and man did I love this, just watching you react to one of your older vids and give some updates and behind the scenes info was a fun time. Personally, I'd love to see more content like this, maybe even some reacts/updates to old deck techs, if you felt so inclined. Your early pauper vids/deck techs back in the day are the biggest reason I got into and promptly fell in love with the pauper format. Anyway, thanks for all the great content!

  • @cnolan4117
    @cnolan4117 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I liked this, I liked the feedback on how opinions change over time. Good job Prof. I look forward to more "look backs" or more "look backs vs. new products"

  • @danalinchristania5163
    @danalinchristania5163 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love this video! Very informative and interesting gaze to history ❤ Thank you so much prof! ❤

  • @StaleBranflakes
    @StaleBranflakes Před 3 měsíci +3

    Watching the modern event deck video was crucial to me getting into magic when it came out. It got me so excited to pick up a deck and play the best game ever.

  • @ivanvontempske5116
    @ivanvontempske5116 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I picked up the Digimon TCG after your initial video on it. One thing I really like about it is how the "starter" preconstructed decks lead to new competitive archetypes for the game.
    The fakeout modern event decks in the thumbnail made me wish Wizards would do something similar. But with Commander being the main cash cow, that seems incredibly unlikely.
    When the barrier to entry is close to a rent payment I can't imagine trying Modern.

  • @megajuancarlos27
    @megajuancarlos27 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Loved the modern event deck when it first came out. It was the reason I got into the modern format and still play to this day. I still even have the og box and sleeves that came with it.

  • @aquascenic5751
    @aquascenic5751 Před 3 měsíci +2

    You had me so excited about new event decks... And then crushed my soul when you said "more commander decks"

  • @NicolaiBolas
    @NicolaiBolas Před 3 měsíci +15

    It was so satisfying watching Prof consistently nail his price estimates!
    "I'll bet the fetchland was $40." 40 exactly.
    "I'll bet the cheapest Modern deck in the top 4 is around $650." 646 is on the money.
    Just awesome!

  • @Omnia0001
    @Omnia0001 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I feel like modern event decks might work out better as a 'Time Capsule' style; make 3~4 'event decks' that reflect the meta of a particular era of Modern. It would be nice to have combo/aggro/control options for stepping into a format.

  • @nharviala
    @nharviala Před 3 měsíci +4

    Dang it, you got my hopes up, Prof! I was skeptical about WotC doing a good thing for any format that wasn't EDH... and it turned out to be a prank on us! Got us 5 days early!

  • @starperro4441
    @starperro4441 Před 3 měsíci +4

    aaaww i really got excited for that Yawghmoth deck

  • @Hyper88
    @Hyper88 Před 3 měsíci +2

    March of the Multitude was my first event deck and ironically was a jumping point into commander.

  • @EvolutionMeister
    @EvolutionMeister Před 3 měsíci +4

    You keep that optimism in your heart! Absolutely killed me

  • @ric_man
    @ric_man Před 3 měsíci +1

    I still have those modern event deck sleeves in my trade binder, and I use them for storing cards in the binder as well as trades.

  • @TheCrash100
    @TheCrash100 Před 3 měsíci +2

    ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS FORMAT, KEE UP THE GOOD WORK !!!

  • @JGAndrade88
    @JGAndrade88 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Subscribed! I’ve been watching for weeks now. Thank you!!

  • @marcsteinbruegge254
    @marcsteinbruegge254 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I love the commentary on the old videos. very cool to hear

  • @KamenRiderCorn
    @KamenRiderCorn Před 3 měsíci +2

    It was so weird seeing people ask Maro about this on his blog and his answers boil down to "Yeah, that's a weird choice we made. Oh well"

  • @swampybwoy
    @swampybwoy Před 3 měsíci

    Love that old music you used in the older videos ! It’s a jam!

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos Před 3 měsíci +5

    The thing is that it costs the same to print a fetch land compared to a basic land. Wizards limits the reprint of certain cards to make people more interested in buying expensive products.
    Also, I hate how commander pretty much took the space of every other format with the flood of precons every year. I seriously wouldn't mind if WoTC took a 2 year break from commander and used that time to make precons for other formats like pauper/modern/pioneer

    • @cowman22ish
      @cowman22ish Před 3 měsíci +1

      Or even products like the duel decks and stuff like that. Good entry products for people

  • @xheezy
    @xheezy Před 3 měsíci

    Such a throwback video. That video actually made me buy a modern event deck from a far away LGS in our community since they're all sold out. I wasn't able to upgrade the deck or even play it in an FNM but heck I still think it was a good value back then.

  • @iamnill_real
    @iamnill_real Před 3 měsíci

    This was a really interesting and relevant retrospective. If similarly relevant re-reviews are possible, I'd love to see them.

  • @OGNoNameNobody
    @OGNoNameNobody Před 3 měsíci +1

    I recommend the one you did before; A Modern event deck "Mono-Green Infect". As long as they include 2/3 *Inkmoth Nexus* copies, they could EASY charge $75 for that product.

  • @user-vb8in2op9c
    @user-vb8in2op9c Před 3 měsíci

    hi prof!! more power to you! and continue what you're doing! i still have that box... God bless you for bringing the memories back! thank you very much!!! 😁

  • @xJarlaxle
    @xJarlaxle Před 3 měsíci

    Wow, I have been watching you for damn near 10 years.... Hard to believe! I cannot believe you are almost at 1million subscribers!

  • @pspsmallz
    @pspsmallz Před 3 měsíci

    This was a cool idea for a video. Hope you do more like this in the futurr.

  • @thedeegeesaga
    @thedeegeesaga Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thanks for making me feel old prof! I'm 35 and my son is turning 3 in November!

  • @camerincaraballo6413
    @camerincaraballo6413 Před 3 měsíci +1

    This is like a neat little lore video, thanks prof

  • @ZasseG
    @ZasseG Před 3 měsíci

    10 years already since I've been watching your channel

  • @nathanjohnson6910
    @nathanjohnson6910 Před 3 měsíci

    Love you Prof, been playing since M14 and have always valued your Magic opinion.

  • @anthonyrasmussen1916
    @anthonyrasmussen1916 Před 3 měsíci

    I bought 2 of these back in the day because of your video. Been watching for a long time, thanks Prof

  • @nayrained
    @nayrained Před 3 měsíci +1

    I remember watching that video 10 years ago. Man I'm old

  • @FaustTheThird
    @FaustTheThird Před 3 měsíci

    this was an interesting video, seeing the re-evaluation

  • @alchenerd
    @alchenerd Před 3 měsíci +3

    Charity Idea:
    1. gather charity money
    2. use them to acquire cards for custom precons
    3. sell precons in affordable price and take loss
    4. donate profit away
    5. mail the sales figures to WotC, CC Hasbro and tell them:
    "This could have been your profit provided your lower manufacture costs"

  • @foxokon94
    @foxokon94 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Modern history facts! The black/white tokens archetype evolved into mardu pyromancer, that did run a lot of the best cards from this deck, lingering souls, the hand disruption, the paths. But a lot of the fillers were removed for good red cards like pyromancer and bolt.

  • @neorazor1403
    @neorazor1403 Před 3 měsíci

    Prof... I love the Sul Tie you're wearing for this video.

  • @kurttaylor9849
    @kurttaylor9849 Před 3 měsíci

    Love the content ❤ always a great watch

  • @ianunderwood1678
    @ianunderwood1678 Před 3 měsíci +1

    My local store actually has one of these on the shelf, I didn't realize it was such an old product... I guess it's sat there unbought for a long time.

  • @foxdenmtg
    @foxdenmtg Před 3 měsíci

    I remember watching this when it first came out. Love this!

  • @kal2489
    @kal2489 Před 3 měsíci +4

    There was a mono red event deck that was basically half of burn. It had like two goblin guides in it and you could buy two of them, smash them together and you'd basically have an almost built RDW list. I can't remember exactly what it was for though, it wasn't technically a modern event deck, it was a bit before the tokens one. I'm not talking about PDS:FL though.

    • @stratavosstuff7575
      @stratavosstuff7575 Před 3 měsíci +1

      those standard event decks were generally worthwhile until the return to ravinica ones

    • @kal2489
      @kal2489 Před 3 měsíci

      @@stratavosstuff7575 Didnt the BG Rock one have a Verdant or something? Abzan rock?

    • @_Max_Fan
      @_Max_Fan Před 3 měsíci

      iirc this was the event deck that was basically only the 2 Guides and a few Mox Opals short of the PT list of Kuldotha red

    • @gatchwar9069
      @gatchwar9069 Před 3 měsíci

      Would it have been the Magic Online Deck Series: Boltslinger? That was MODO only but it has a playset of Goblin Guide and is the only time GG has ever been printed into a deck according to Scryfall

    • @_Max_Fan
      @_Max_Fan Před 3 měsíci

      @@gatchwar9069 Found it, Mirrodin Besieged Event Deck - Into the Breach.
      While it was several cards different from the PT list, the only ones that were expensive were 2 more Goblin Guide and 3-4 Mox Opals

  • @philippniemann8842
    @philippniemann8842 Před 3 měsíci

    Hey Prof 😊
    I really liked the "behind the scenes" video you did with the command zone.
    And you tell a little bit behind-the-scenes as well.
    I would really like a real behind the scenes video from you 🙂

  • @dannyspooner5638
    @dannyspooner5638 Před 3 měsíci

    That old video may be bad… but it’s a nice and super chill video ❤️ it’s a good vibe

  • @FPzero
    @FPzero Před 3 měsíci

    Just wanted to say that this format of looking back at older products through today's lens was really neat and I'd definitely enjoy seeing it done again. I know you dislike unscripted commentary but it's really fun to hear your thoughts presented this way. Not to mention it was entertaining seeing your reaction to price differences from 10 years ago. Fun fact, last year Marsh Flats's market price dipped below $10 for some months before climbing back up to where it is now!

  • @JonathanHecht
    @JonathanHecht Před 3 měsíci

    i actually got that event deck back then and i dont regret that. i enjoyed (and still enjoy) modern since back then and i still kept the sword of feast and famine

  • @nickraupp6104
    @nickraupp6104 Před 3 měsíci

    One of the biggest pickups I got from the event deck were Path to Exiles ($10 at the time) and Inquisitions ($15-$20 at the time), and that was actually my primary motivation

  • @PureSolace
    @PureSolace Před 3 měsíci +1

    Three Color Domain Zoo Budget will probably get the deck into the $100 range (if you skimp a bit on the mana base, which WotC does already.)

  • @skyking8533
    @skyking8533 Před 3 měsíci

    Super-delightful (and synchronous)!
    I was just wondering what "Modern Event Deck" was after coming across it while looking at different versions of Elspeth on Scryfall.
    The video also had me checking my old MBS cards to double-check if I had the Sword. (I did have one!)

  • @TheRedkeyboard
    @TheRedkeyboard Před 3 měsíci

    This deck basically got me into modern and I loved it for a long time. As a 16yo kid without a great deal of disposable income this let me go to local events and GPs and not get wiped across the floor.
    It was very upgradable too outside of just adding fetches and shocks. Bitterblossom, Liliana of the Veil, Thoughtsieze and Sorin, Solemn Visitor all helped the deck massivley and could be added slowly over time which was huge for me at the time. Sure it never established itself in the top tier but it was fun and competitive

  • @mdubCitizenInAction
    @mdubCitizenInAction Před 3 měsíci

    I know The Prof hates the no script vid, but I really liked this time capsule review. Would love to see more like this.

  • @nicholasbower17
    @nicholasbower17 Před 3 měsíci +1

    4:50 oh that's where those sleeves came from. I have like 3 and use them on commanders :v

  • @denisochiuto7535
    @denisochiuto7535 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I've started playing modern with Modern Event Deck... Love the tokens idea and still got that deck!

  • @reckross331
    @reckross331 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Going off script was very refreshing. Would love to see more in the future.

  • @xPhilxHC
    @xPhilxHC Před 3 měsíci

    i wish ya a million subs real soon Prof! keep up the great content!

  • @misterdonwaters
    @misterdonwaters Před 3 měsíci

    Already subscribed but I hope you hit that million! Commenting because I know it helps your algorithm. Enjoyed the off the cuff reaction flashback, btw.

  • @UMAtronic
    @UMAtronic Před 3 měsíci

    As a commander player, i would of loved some of these. On the other hand my friend had a printer so proxied a competitive viable mill deck.

  • @phil4459
    @phil4459 Před 3 měsíci

    The title and thumbnail aktually got me exited! I always waned to get a bit in to modern to play with my friends... would be to good to be true if they did that.

  • @bleistik821
    @bleistik821 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I was so excited for a second, now super bummed again that there won’t be Modern Challenger Decks.

  • @gabrielcliche
    @gabrielcliche Před 3 měsíci +1

    Nice concept for a video serie. I really liked the reactions of Brian throughout it.
    BUT... the reaction I would've want to see most is at 30:47.
    Please comment on these thumbnails :O

  • @JackCross3
    @JackCross3 Před 3 měsíci

    Oh wow I remember this deck! It came out right when I first started. My friends and I liked the idea Modern because there was this huge card pool, so we could fish fun jank out of bargain binders and play at the kitchen table, but still technically have a format legal deck (this was before commander was well known). And I actually had a tokens deck, but even as someone right in the target demo for this, $80 was just too much. For a broke college student just getting into the game.

  • @amosreads
    @amosreads Před 3 měsíci

    Ah man - as a player who started in standard, left the game, and came back for commander, I was so excited for a Modern Precon! Why can't we have nice things. Great job as always, Professor.

  • @lauralharris
    @lauralharris Před 3 měsíci +1

    I was so excited to see 60-Card modern precons what the hell Prof

  • @bordercityballerz6530
    @bordercityballerz6530 Před 3 měsíci

    Is that a Death Gate Cycle book series behind you? I love those.

  • @Rudeyrudey
    @Rudeyrudey Před 3 měsíci

    I was legit so excited about this, been looking for an on-ramp into Modern for years…. It would make way too much sense

  • @victorarroyo4111
    @victorarroyo4111 Před 3 měsíci

    Nice the professor watching the professor, the next year I want to see the professor reacting to the professor watching to the professor XD

  • @tony_darkness
    @tony_darkness Před 3 měsíci +1

    You got me! I was even texting my friends who have been interested but priced out of modern /: