Legendary Licks You Think Are Strange (because they're odd)

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  • @MusicisWin
    @MusicisWin  Před 5 lety +970

    What's your favorite legendary lick or riff in an odd time signature?

    • @sauravjb4711
      @sauravjb4711 Před 5 lety +175

      Most dream theatre songs

    • @jaceyp.8457
      @jaceyp.8457 Před 5 lety +45

      Music is Win never meant by american football

    • @TonkaTheMagician
      @TonkaTheMagician Před 5 lety +206

      Money by Pink Floyd

    • @mattdoesstuff8987
      @mattdoesstuff8987 Před 5 lety +34

      Might be out of place, but the last movement of Dancing Mad from Final Fantasy VI. It switches from 4/4 to 7/8 in every measure.

    • @sashingopaul3111
      @sashingopaul3111 Před 5 lety +45

      Jacob’s Ladder - Rush or Erotomania - Dream Theater

  • @saumitrakarmakar8336
    @saumitrakarmakar8336 Před 5 lety +3833

    Tool - legendary licks you think are strange because they were never released

  • @user-el5mg4it9t
    @user-el5mg4it9t Před 4 lety +637

    Music Theory: _Has a tempo structure_
    Tool: wUt

    • @cupparuppa
      @cupparuppa Před 4 lety +8

      Max Niessl here on youtube does some amazing Tool tabs, and watching how often the tempo changes by just one or two bpm is insane

    • @owenf2835
      @owenf2835 Před 3 lety

      it has a tempo structure?

    • @milkwalkerjones633
      @milkwalkerjones633 Před 3 lety +4

      @@cupparuppa That’s what happens when you don’t record to a click lol

    • @cupparuppa
      @cupparuppa Před 3 lety

      i am aware

    • @johnnycsp
      @johnnycsp Před 3 lety

      @@cupparuppa
      ..
      .
      J,.

  • @fakshen1973
    @fakshen1973 Před 5 lety +1606

    I'm waiting for the Tool and the King Crimson collaboration. They'll probably invent a new time signature... like 7.333/4

    • @ryantorchia3202
      @ryantorchia3202 Před 5 lety +135

      That's actually not a tough meter to imagine -- basically 6 quarter notes, then four eight-note triplets. It would probably be written as 22/12, or something like 6/4 + 1/3 and would be vaguely similar to the first example in the "Irrational Meters" section of the Wikipedia article on time signatures. You could also switch it around and write it as 22/8 with six dotted-quarter notes and one half note if you want it to feel like you're stretching that extra .333, or seven dotted-quarter notes and an eighth note if you wanted it to feel like you're chopping off the last 2/3 of a beat.

    • @donovanburkhard
      @donovanburkhard Před 5 lety +173

      @@ryantorchia3202 you fohckin drummer

    • @LFSPharaoh
      @LFSPharaoh Před 5 lety +83

      1.618/3.1415

    • @KiltedHammer
      @KiltedHammer Před 5 lety +10

      I would pay to see that within 500 miles. Maybe further.
      I can just imagine Tony Levin and Justin Chancellor layering like Fripp and Belew do in Frame by Frame... while all guitars are doing the same.

    • @brendongriffin4164
      @brendongriffin4164 Před 5 lety +15

      they did tour together...

  • @MC-sx6ix
    @MC-sx6ix Před 5 lety +493

    A whole video about TOOL? I heard that right, right?
    Did anyone else?

  • @hermeticascetic
    @hermeticascetic Před 5 lety +2011

    You don't count Schism.
    You feel Schism.

    • @edsmeds7233
      @edsmeds7233 Před 5 lety +35

      tool for your gut

    • @Amjust002
      @Amjust002 Před 5 lety +52

      You measure that shit with your heart

    • @woodchucksquirrel
      @woodchucksquirrel Před 5 lety +10

      @@Amjust002 And your *_soul_* lelelel

    • @christmas83
      @christmas83 Před 5 lety +37

      This guy gets it. I never counted it, just kinda did it

    • @Hadgerz
      @Hadgerz Před 5 lety +55

      Time signatures scare me.
      I just feel songs.
      I'm a shit musician.

  • @JoelBonnie
    @JoelBonnie Před 5 lety +1956

    How bout Legendary Licks that aren't even legendary :)

    • @adindubose9314
      @adindubose9314 Před 5 lety +153

      ... but they should be

    • @nishant2279
      @nishant2279 Před 5 lety +76

      Smoke on the water

    • @dinorei7364
      @dinorei7364 Před 5 lety +6

      @@nishant2279 Funny.I thought about Perfect strangers.I was almost sure I would find it on a list of popular songs with odd rhythm signature riffs.

    • @bazicuber1037
      @bazicuber1037 Před 5 lety +9

      Day Tripper lel

    • @dillonmacpherson3350
      @dillonmacpherson3350 Před 5 lety +9

      @@adindubose9314 so pretty much a cky video

  • @Privacy-LOST
    @Privacy-LOST Před 5 lety +585

    I should've gone to music school rather than skipping school to play guitar.

    • @iii978
      @iii978 Před 5 lety +26

      No. He making this over complicated by this signature counting. I know few people that did go and I've come to the conclusion that they are just parrots. They couldn't write a legendary or even descent lick if their life depended on it.

    • @Privacy-LOST
      @Privacy-LOST Před 5 lety +28

      @@iii978 point taken. As an example Kurt came up with harmonically insane arrangements without really mastering or caring about the theory behind it. But not everybody is kurt, and I believe bands like Metallica, Led Zep, the Beatles, Zappa, and so many others really knew their shit. So it does really help.

    • @Xolaeth
      @Xolaeth Před 5 lety +17

      It's never too late to learn about music :D

    • @chrissan2044
      @chrissan2044 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Privacy-LOST Kurt sucked

    • @Privacy-LOST
      @Privacy-LOST Před 5 lety +18

      @@chrissan2044 Please back up your claim

  • @jsohi0082
    @jsohi0082 Před 3 lety +144

    If you're just looking for the licks, here they are.
    1:40 - 2:01 : Alice in Chains - Them Bones
    2:57 - 3:33 : King Crimson - Frame by Frame
    6:10 - 6:25 : Radiohead - 15 Step
    8:47 - 9:07 : MGMT - Electric Feel
    10:09 - 10:38 : Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
    12:40 - 12:55 : Queens of the Stone Age - Hanging Tree
    14:06 - 14:17 : ^
    I'm going to add more if you request it

    • @alessandrorobertis426
      @alessandrorobertis426 Před 3 lety +2

      You dropped this👑

    • @santaclause4579
      @santaclause4579 Před 3 lety +2

      Bitch

    • @kingstring853
      @kingstring853 Před 2 lety

      @@santaclause4579 damn santa you didnt bring me any presents 3 days ago what happened?

    • @kevinm.p9989
      @kevinm.p9989 Před 2 lety

      @@kingstring853 this between him An d jsohi, stay out of it

    • @kevinm.p9989
      @kevinm.p9989 Před 2 lety

      Yoshi howvyou gonnavadd more? You got more weird guys playing weird songs videos?

  • @feralmac8660
    @feralmac8660 Před 5 lety +64

    Adam Jones, the guitar anti-hero. If his minimalist riffs don't blow your mind, it's because you don't know what he's actually playing.

    • @Devin_Art
      @Devin_Art Před 5 lety +8

      criminally under rated as a guitarist, even as well known as he is.

  • @emadeathmetal1264
    @emadeathmetal1264 Před 5 lety +733

    *Legendary Licks You Can't Play (because you can't)*

    • @cidoet3360
      @cidoet3360 Před 5 lety +10

      i bet smoke on the water gonna be on the list!

    • @theosls3820
      @theosls3820 Před 5 lety +4

      This is going to be a long list for me :/

    • @matthewdelgado839
      @matthewdelgado839 Před 5 lety +1

      Burn

    • @d0ngus
      @d0ngus Před 5 lety +7

      So you just try play king crimson but immediately get a copyright strike

    • @joker_storm2232
      @joker_storm2232 Před 5 lety +1

      2112 in one take

  • @IceKoldKilla
    @IceKoldKilla Před 4 lety +120

    Frame By Frame is one of my favorite songs ever. I've been diving into Progressive music for a couple years now, but slowly. And man, it's the most excited I've ever been about music since I was 10 listening to Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit and Korn.
    Small fact: Danny Carey from Tool said on video how Discipline (album) inspired them a lot. That if they ripped off anyone, it was them, that album. This was an old studio interview from the 90s. It's clearly the influence those guitar parts had on Adam when making Forty Six & 2. It's so similar. But I guess if you're gonna rip off a band, King Crimson is definitely one to do it from. 3 fucking drummers when they play live! Insane!

    • @recipoldinasty
      @recipoldinasty Před 4 lety

      Acually theres a copy of the frame by frame riff in tools cover of no quarter, at the end...

    • @maurogalindez3901
      @maurogalindez3901 Před 4 lety +2

      There's a couple of King Crimson's albums that'll blow your mind if you're getting into prog. Give Lizard a try. Also que 80's lineup of KC is amazing, listen to Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair

    • @adrianlikins1314
      @adrianlikins1314 Před 2 měsíci

      There are a couple interviews where Primus mention the same thing re: Discipline.
      It's a pretty cool album.

  • @StudioMontaneZone
    @StudioMontaneZone Před 5 lety +98

    So happy to see Frame by Frame called out in 2019. Kudos on the inclusion and break down.

  • @Mando011
    @Mando011 Před 5 lety +466

    Licks that you think exist but they don't (and you're playing them wrong)

  • @el0j
    @el0j Před 5 lety +1227

    "I wish I wrote this" me after every time I listen to a Tool song

    • @beardoggin8963
      @beardoggin8963 Před 5 lety +16

      OthMan They aren’t written, only ordained....

    • @robspear03
      @robspear03 Před 5 lety +8

      Tool sucks.

    • @cesarmennig1385
      @cesarmennig1385 Před 4 lety +20

      Chantal Beck you’re mind is just not on tool’s level

    • @yourmoms5602
      @yourmoms5602 Před 4 lety +2

      @Chantal Beck
      Takes one to know one.

    • @Krouwkaar
      @Krouwkaar Před 4 lety +5

      @@robspear03 such a hipster you

  • @SlayerLazenkan
    @SlayerLazenkan Před 5 lety +252

    when you understand (theorically) how schism is played, but you can't actually play it right and you keep trying to adjust the measures
    i know the pieces fit... I KNOW THE PIECES FIT... *I KNOW THE PIECES FIIIIT*

    • @juanpablosanchezaveleyra6454
      @juanpablosanchezaveleyra6454 Před 3 lety +3

      I can actually play it but know jackshit about time measures or so on. :/

    • @hughflapjacks
      @hughflapjacks Před 3 lety +2

      I just go by feel with schism, considering it's hard to play too fast or too slow when you have that muscle memory

    • @jojoversus1100
      @jojoversus1100 Před 2 lety +1

      Makes me wish 12Tone would do a breakdown of Schism.

  • @stellaronhuntkafka
    @stellaronhuntkafka Před 4 lety +88

    Setlist, because why not?
    01:37 Alice In Chains - Them Bones
    02:57 King Crimson - Frame By Frame
    06:10 Radiohead - 15 Step
    08:47 MGMT - Electric Feel
    09:57 Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
    12:33 Queens Of The Stone Age - Hanging Tree
    14:17 Tool - Schism

  • @jamesblobb7115
    @jamesblobb7115 Před 5 lety +496

    >King Crimson
    This video ain't staying up for long

  • @4kuj1n
    @4kuj1n Před 5 lety +424

    Interesting how the Schism is about the breaking down of communication and the whole song is a series of "mismatched" time signatures. Almost as if the two parts used to belong together but now are noticeably pulling apart. "I know the pieces fit 'cause I watched them fall away"

    • @cfisha32
      @cfisha32 Před 5 lety +14

      Yup. And check out the significance of Lateralus.

    • @RyanAcidhedzMurphy
      @RyanAcidhedzMurphy Před 5 lety +11

      If memory serves Maynard writes the lyrics after the music is more or less done, so one is directly informed by the other.

    • @Devin_Art
      @Devin_Art Před 5 lety +8

      I was literally going to say the same thing, its like the signature switching from 5/8 to 7/8 is like they are both "one" off from being in sync with each other. Its a so close, yet so far kind of thing. God damn, its beautiful haha. I always find something new with their stuff.

    • @sejerrasmussen6537
      @sejerrasmussen6537 Před 5 lety +6

      wow holy shit tool are flipping geniuiuses!!

    • @ChickenShackIRL
      @ChickenShackIRL Před 4 lety +3

      The whole of the Lateralus album is full of weird symbolisms like that. That album is mind blowing to dissect and study

  • @l______________________l
    @l______________________l Před 5 lety +332

    *"Legendary Licks That Are Actually Riffs"*
    *"Legendary Licks That Are Actually Hooks"*
    *"Legendary Licks That Are Actually Licks"*
    *"Unpopular Licks That Are Not Well Known"*
    *"Ordinary Things People Describe As Legendary"*
    *Ordinary Things That Are Quite Believable"*

    • @mickjagger149
      @mickjagger149 Před 5 lety +2

      This cracked me up

    • @tran.srights7906
      @tran.srights7906 Před 5 lety +13

      *"LEGENDARY LEGENDS THAT YOU THINK ARE LEGENDARY (because they are)"*

    • @flipclone
      @flipclone Před 5 lety +2

      either way, i just came here cuz i've just discovered lately that odd times are sprinkled heavily in the music that i love the most

    • @omnimutant
      @omnimutant Před 4 lety +1

      Legendary Licks That Are Legendary Because People are Easily Amused. Followed by Licks that are Not Legendary But So Mind Blowing That The Artists Are Dead Broke Because Most People Can't Grasp Them.

  • @primeDecomposition
    @primeDecomposition Před 4 lety +75

    For anyone who remembers a little Number Theory, 13 and 7 are coprime so the two riffs will only sink up every 13 * 7 = 91 measures (Least Common Multiple). Kinda trippy.

    • @joshuawand3217
      @joshuawand3217 Před 4 lety +1

      That was the first though that came tomy mind when I was watching this part of the video...anyone got a clue why in all transcriptions online no one transcribes the second guitar in 13/8? All of them divide both guitars in 7/4 bars. Is this guy right actually? :D

    • @Joseph-li3df
      @Joseph-li3df Před 4 lety +28

      They'd sync up every 91 beats, not every 91 measures

    • @nikha1291
      @nikha1291 Před 4 lety +5

      *frippy

    • @heatherperleberg7816
      @heatherperleberg7816 Před rokem

      KC loves doing stuff like that. The title track of that album Discipline does something similar, Neal and Jack and Me, etc.

  • @PDXguitarfreak
    @PDXguitarfreak Před 5 lety +599

    Black Dog from Led Zeppelin, has some interestingly timed riffs.

    • @nikhilbarretto5804
      @nikhilbarretto5804 Před 5 lety +8

      PDX Guitar Freak 9/8

    • @dumbdickler670
      @dumbdickler670 Před 5 lety +1

      I was gonna say the same

    • @stevencruzgil8288
      @stevencruzgil8288 Před 5 lety +28

      In black dog you have 9/8 on the guitar and 4/4 on the drums. So the guitar kind of moves around the drums

    • @adiiqbal8010
      @adiiqbal8010 Před 5 lety +40

      PDX Guitar Freak jimmy page never plays on beat. He’s either terrible at timing of genius at it

    • @garrettmb181
      @garrettmb181 Před 5 lety +70

      @@adiiqbal8010 leaning hard towards genius

  • @bensilvester4531
    @bensilvester4531 Před 5 lety +508

    How about "Legendary licks you think are difficult (but it's because of the effects)"

    • @w_stew8912
      @w_stew8912 Před 5 lety +73

      Every Rage Against the Machine song ever.

    • @paulojounin
      @paulojounin Před 5 lety +31

      Rain by Rob Scallon

    • @cuviemadeit
      @cuviemadeit Před 5 lety +9

      @@w_stew8912 wouldn't work cause those morrelo solos take song long to master shits insane, I have studied his guitar playing for thousands of hours

    • @hksagemusic1617
      @hksagemusic1617 Před 5 lety +3

      Bodysnatcherssssssss

    • @ThePotatusMan
      @ThePotatusMan Před 5 lety +19

      so anything by U2?

  • @melodyhough3980
    @melodyhough3980 Před 3 lety +72

    *Dream Theater:* Laughs maniacally

  • @shayfarley7253
    @shayfarley7253 Před 5 lety +31

    Schism is such a master piece of music.. frikkin heck. Gives me goosebumps and a wicked case of air guitar!!

  • @carlosmatos9848
    @carlosmatos9848 Před 5 lety +178

    I like 7/4, feels natural enough yet that missing quarter note keeps you on your toes

  • @samerk4024
    @samerk4024 Před 5 lety +41

    My favorite Josh Homme's odd time riff comes from Them Crooked Vultures' "Noone Loves Me" It is so good. Heavy as a jackhammer.

  • @SPACYtunes
    @SPACYtunes Před 5 lety +49

    Prog rock and prog metal are the kings of bizarrely extraordinary time signatures. Rush, Dream Theater, Symphony X, Seventh Wonder... KINGS.

    • @dead_kennedys7870
      @dead_kennedys7870 Před 5 lety +9

      S P A C Y What about mathrock and mathcore? They’re literally based solely around time signatures.

    • @TheBlenderGamingOfficial
      @TheBlenderGamingOfficial Před 4 lety +4

      You forgot
      Tool

    • @bemersonbakebarmen
      @bemersonbakebarmen Před 3 lety

      @@dead_kennedys7870 King Crimson invented math rock in Discipline. So mathrock is prog rock. The Battles is XXI century YES

  • @ldj7039
    @ldj7039 Před 5 lety +73

    Originally wasn't gonna sit thru all 21 minutes (at first), but you opened with Alice in Chains and hooked me. Glad I stuck around lol

    • @patb8617
      @patb8617 Před 5 lety +3

      L DJ same dude I was like
      *oh* I see you

  • @Flappy9
    @Flappy9 Před 5 lety +393

    Legendary licks you think are licks but they're not (because you're playing the flute)

    • @Binaural03375
      @Binaural03375 Před 5 lety +1

      Zach B I lol’d

    • @guitar78ish
      @guitar78ish Před 5 lety +7

      Guess you've never heard Jethro Tull??
      czcams.com/video/gWubhw8SoBE/video.html
      czcams.com/video/zic2jFZ745w/video.html

    • @landoflogic107
      @landoflogic107 Před 5 lety +1

      I would love for him to do that for the jokes.

    • @georgeb9285
      @georgeb9285 Před 5 lety +2

      Kirk Hammet wah

    • @verandi3882
      @verandi3882 Před 5 lety +4

      * puts tongue out to lick the flute *

  • @obiboy813
    @obiboy813 Před 4 lety +7

    This puts another layer of meaning behind Schism. So the song lyrically is about a couple breaking up, two people that used to love each other that drifted apart, and the actual music is also "schismed" into so many different sigantures that seem to drift apart as well.

  • @Milpup
    @Milpup Před 4 lety +19

    So many amazing tool riffs, Adam Jones's tone is to die for 🤘

    • @tassiegamer4516
      @tassiegamer4516 Před 9 měsíci

      him and justin both write really well together, tool wouldnt br nearly as good without jc

  • @blahblahsen1142
    @blahblahsen1142 Před 5 lety +321

    legendary licks that you can never replicate because she left you 3 years ago and every other chick you find has a gag reflex and/or sensitivity to spearmint.

  • @RacecaR08
    @RacecaR08 Před 5 lety +712

    Tool's Schism has 47 time signature changes
    Dream Theater: *hold my beer*

    • @vitornathangoncalves2575
      @vitornathangoncalves2575 Před 5 lety +57

      The dance of eternity is a f****** nightmare to play

    • @bill18286
      @bill18286 Před 5 lety +44

      Vitor Nathan Gonçalves and to listen to

    • @richardroberts1744
      @richardroberts1744 Před 5 lety +117

      It's not the amount of time signatures that makes schism. It's the seamless way it changes through them without feeling forced or really weird.

    • @simonebevini4357
      @simonebevini4357 Před 5 lety +78

      Let's argue. Dream Theatre, expecially in songs like Dance of Eternity, create pure complexity that just wants to be felt hard and impossible to play (and damn, it is!!!). Tool put a thought behind its complexity, that connects with the lyrics and the meaning of the song (in Schism"I know the pieces fit, 'cause I watch them fall away" while the song constantly skips from 5/8 to 7/8 or, in Vicarious, "I watch things die, from a good safe distance" while the guitar adds sometimes a 1/8 bar to "extend" the riff, make it more "distant")

    • @richardroberts1744
      @richardroberts1744 Před 5 lety +40

      @@simonebevini4357 hit the nail on the head. Both bands are complex in entirely different ways. I feel dream theatre write complex stuff(which is awesome) because they can and are freakishly good on their instruments. . And tool write the way they write automatically cuz of some sort of tribalism in their mind. It just comes off more naturally when tool changes time signature. Almost like they hit it accidently through the writing. So it's not showing off to a degree. It's just in them to write that way. Or that's my way of looking at it anyway. I'm in no way endorsing that either band is better than the other. Opinions are subjective.

  • @yonikup2865
    @yonikup2865 Před 5 lety +304

    *Dream Theater has left the voice channel*

    • @reaganfriedrice5058
      @reaganfriedrice5058 Před 5 lety +10

      Basically anything by dream theatre blows all of this out of the water.

    • @alekisighl7599
      @alekisighl7599 Před 5 lety +25

      @@reaganfriedrice5058 Nah fam dream theater has extremely forced changes. Doesn't sound good at all. It's like they're doing it for the sake of it. Doesn't add anything to the meaning of the song and no emotions attached to it whatsoever. Feels like some jazz musicians took steroids and lost all their creativity. At least with bands like tool and king crimson I can feel the passion and emotion reflected in the odd times.
      Eg- in Schism, The song talks about a divide between humans. This is reflected in the fact that the main riff which can be compounded to a 6/4 is divided or 'schismed' into a 5/8 and 7/8
      In lateralus the main riff has the times alternating between 9/8 8/8 and 7/8. 987 is a Fibonacci number. Maynard's vocals incorporates the Fibonacci sequence and the songs main message is to 'spiral out'relating to the Fibonacci spiral.
      See? These riffs actually MEAN something in the context of the song. Give me dream theatre song that does that. Heck give me a dream theatre song that doesn't sound mechanical as fuck.

    • @karlamellado7299
      @karlamellado7299 Před 5 lety +5

      I think that songs like octavarium are overrated, maybe the only song were the long instrumental parts mean something is A change of seasons

    • @alekisighl7599
      @alekisighl7599 Před 5 lety

      @@karlamellado7299 Hmm I'll have to give that a listen.

    • @reaganfriedrice5058
      @reaganfriedrice5058 Před 5 lety +7

      ​@@alekisighl7599 Ok that i do agree with, dream theatres "sound" Is very.... clunky. But I think that's why a lot of people like them, their jumpy rhythms that constantly change Are what make the band. In Stream of Consciousness's Intro (0.00-2.03), There's this 5/4 time that occasionally switches to 6/4, you get this continuious "flow" IMO. Same thing at 3:50 when one of the solo starts, the time jumps between 6/8 and 5/8. this 5-6/8 jump is repeated a few time throught thesong, and i think it gives a stepped flow kinda thing. Most human's Consciousnesses wouldn't be completely smooth, but rather a little jumpy. Still familiar, but a little jumpy. The song "Panic Attack". A vast majority of the song is in 4/4, however there are parts that consists of 6/4, 5/5 and 4/4, that are definately jittery. Later in the song there's a part where it jumps from 12/16-3/4-6/8. In this part the only thing that really technically changes is the drum beat, most notably one of the cymbals, (probably a crash or a high hat or something idk). The bass plays a steady rhythm through this part. This song is meant to never slow down, and the constant _/4 time means the song has a constant, yet is ever changing. Songs like "constant motion" definately have weird jumps, halfway through the song the tempo slows down a considerable amount, only to speed up a little later. "A change of seasons" Is very jumpy as well, I believe that's fitting to the title, but it also is made up of 7 smaller songs which are written by different people, leading to the song feeling a little all over the place. Still a mad song though.

  • @1bgrant
    @1bgrant Před 5 lety +109

    Lateralus: main riff rotates through 7/8, 8/8, and 9/8.
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @benparker2321
      @benparker2321 Před 5 lety +9

      It’s 987

    • @simonenoli4418
      @simonenoli4418 Před 5 lety +1

      Main riffnis 987 and the stanza is im 5/8 xD

    • @TheSharkAnt
      @TheSharkAnt Před 4 lety +3

      Wouldn't 8/8 automatically become 4/4? Maybe I'm an idiot and 8/8 DOES exist.

    • @bartekkaczmarek2865
      @bartekkaczmarek2865 Před 4 lety +5

      @@TheSharkAnt i mean yeah, but it's probably easier to count if you have all 8s, than 9/8, 4/4, 7/8.

    • @konekoray9323
      @konekoray9323 Před 4 lety +3

      @@TheSharkAnt On paper, 4/4 and 8/8 are the same, but in practice there is a difference, and it is all about how you feel the beat...usually. The typical way it works is based on what note is felt the most throughout a measure, denoted by the bottom note. If it is based on eighth notes, it will typically feel a lot faster and energetic (or in the case of Tool, aggressive) than quarter notes, which in comparison feel more relaxed and flowing. If you tried to keep time playing Lateralus using quarter notes, you would very quickly lose track of the beat, because it is not intuitive. You do not feel a quarter note beat, you feel an eighth note beat.
      Easiest way I can put it is to not think about it too much. If you are musically inclined, I can almost guarantee you will feel it intuitively. Listen to it, let your body react, and take note of what notes your foot is tapping to. If you are tapping out quarter notes, its a quarter note feel. Of course it gets a lot more complicated when beats can be further subdivided like in Schism (5/8 and 7/8 into 2/8+3/8 and 2/8+2/8+3/8), but for most _not_ super complex and intricate music, just feeling it alone will suffice.

  • @SpiralMountainStudio
    @SpiralMountainStudio Před 5 lety +10

    The Fish by Yes is one of my favorite songs in an odd time signature. I also quite enjoy Sound Chaser too. I believe the main riff in both of those songs are in 7/4.

  • @thejack0fhearts43
    @thejack0fhearts43 Před 5 lety +184

    Licks you think are riffs (because you’ve been tricked)

  • @bluejaysbaseball
    @bluejaysbaseball Před 5 lety +608

    Legendary Licks that you think are Legendary (but they’re not)

  • @santaclause6839
    @santaclause6839 Před 4 lety +36

    I see 6.5 over 8 in the thumbnail
    Let's get stupid

  • @thomasfleig1780
    @thomasfleig1780 Před 5 lety +21

    I'm so envious of that room he's got. Everyone should have a musical man cave.

    • @konekoray9323
      @konekoray9323 Před 4 lety +1

      What about a musical lady lounge? I certainly could use one. I need nice, soundproofed walls. I'm tired of all the annoying rattles in the windows and cupboards my bass makes.

    • @kevinm.p9989
      @kevinm.p9989 Před 2 lety

      Hahaha how about everyone has a house to live in clothes food and medicine first?

  • @jan279
    @jan279 Před 5 lety +13

    I feel like Adam Jones is underappreciated, perhaps because he's not the type of guitarist who takes center-stage in the band. Dude comes up with plenty unique and brilliant riffs that are very essential to what makes Tool such a great band.

  • @educostanzo
    @educostanzo Před 5 lety +73

    Tool and KC on the same video, that's what's legendary about this video!

    • @GoR0901
      @GoR0901 Před 5 lety

      Adrian Belew's Side One (2004) will blow your mind)

  • @Lyendith
    @Lyendith Před 5 lety +14

    I've noticed that The Rev from Avenged Sevenfold was quite fond of 6/4 in the songs he wrote (he used it in Almost Easy, A Little Piece of Heaven and Save Me), but I'm not sure it actually counts as an "odd" time signature…
    Otherwise, that King Crimson example fascinates me… The things you can create by thinking out of the box…

  • @lindsaydouglas381
    @lindsaydouglas381 Před 4 lety

    Love your teaching style. You are a brilliant teacher. Loving the learning experience.

  • @Tempo1337
    @Tempo1337 Před 5 lety +104

    I would love a video dedicated to breaking down Schism

    • @allgrainbrewer10
      @allgrainbrewer10 Před 5 lety +15

      Rick Beato did an episode on that What Makes This Song Great #15.

    • @destructyo757
      @destructyo757 Před 5 lety +2

      He didn't get the main riff right, though. The version he calls easy and wrong at 16:37 is actually how it's played in the song (you can listen to the isolated guitar track and verify for yourself)
      Rick Beato made the same mistake in his video, which is so weird to me because it sounds completely off to my ears, and these guys are normally on point. Guess they based it on the same bad tabs or something?

  • @griffstewart1620
    @griffstewart1620 Před 5 lety +15

    Another great King Crimson song is The Howler. Although no proper transcriptions exist on the internet, a quick listening to the intro riff will reveal the time signature to be 15/8. This is counted as 8+7.

  • @CaffHCloudlow
    @CaffHCloudlow Před 5 lety

    Going to make a playlist of all these. I already love the band's and songs you've featured. Excellent brain tickle, thankyou from a former drummer

  • @bizichyld
    @bizichyld Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for validating and illustrating the way I always felt about that Schism riff. The facial expression says it all.

  • @timcotter8178
    @timcotter8178 Před 5 lety +264

    Isn't Tool known all around for having odd time signatures?

    • @hippyhobo6285
      @hippyhobo6285 Před 5 lety +196

      Yes they are. They're also known for not releasing a new album for a decade and a half.

    • @slawaxas
      @slawaxas Před 5 lety +15

      @@hippyhobo6285 Dude dont be salty itl propably drop this year

    • @hippyhobo6285
      @hippyhobo6285 Před 5 lety +25

      @@slawaxas i know. I was making a joke that's definitely too old to be funny. I hope they do release a new record though.

    • @user-fc3xv7nb9c
      @user-fc3xv7nb9c Před 5 lety +18

      @@slawaxas well maynard is a troll so it might not happen

    • @EmazingGuitar
      @EmazingGuitar Před 5 lety +5

      @@user-fc3xv7nb9c hes trolling that the album wont come out when it will. First it was "album coming soon" too "no album is coming" is a sign

  • @griffstewart1620
    @griffstewart1620 Před 5 lety +199

    *Robert Fripp joined the chat.*
    *Robert Fripp is typing...*

    • @dontewalker6919
      @dontewalker6919 Před 5 lety +22

      Adrian belew rejoins the band

    • @danieln6613
      @danieln6613 Před 5 lety +8

      *your video has now been blocked*

    • @griffstewart1620
      @griffstewart1620 Před 5 lety +1

      @Danny I was told they removed it from there too, and I don't intend to check.

    • @s3fruit969
      @s3fruit969 Před 5 lety +1

      Saw Adrian Belew live and he played this song just a couple days ago

  • @mit5oner
    @mit5oner Před 5 lety +1

    The song choices were just amazing. I love frame by frame and i LOVE 15 step.

  • @gregturner6595
    @gregturner6595 Před 5 lety

    @MusicisWin Love seeing you play so many PRSs. Amazing guitars!

  • @MrDASAXMAN
    @MrDASAXMAN Před 5 lety +23

    If you're into the king crimson twist of eventually resyncing, check out "clapping music" by Steve Reich, it's a famous contemporary classical piece following the same concept.

    • @codynoname2640
      @codynoname2640 Před 5 lety +1

      Awesome! Thanks for the recommendation

    • @jds373
      @jds373 Před 5 lety +1

      Literally this was my exact thought, Steve Reich has all sorts of phasing going on in his music but "clapping music" is probably the best example since the entire piece is just a phasing rhythm.

  • @icenic_wolf
    @icenic_wolf Před 5 lety +34

    Legendary licks/songs that weren't written for guitar... but sound amazing on one.

    • @icenic_wolf
      @icenic_wolf Před 5 lety +1

      ...should probably include Jimi and/or Boston's Star-Spangled Banner, etc.

    • @Bragituba
      @Bragituba Před 5 lety +1

      Of course I'd say Jimi Hendrix' version of the Star Spangled Banner, but everyone would expect that. Next, I'd say the Original Halo CE theme. Steve Vai came in and blew the doors off with his version in Halo 2.

    • @experimenteight4550
      @experimenteight4550 Před 5 lety

      Every 00’s synth line

    • @aknopf8173
      @aknopf8173 Před 5 lety

      Asturias

    • @maxscardanelli6185
      @maxscardanelli6185 Před 5 lety

      The synth line in 'The Final Countdown' sounds great on guitar.

  • @andrewlevistermma
    @andrewlevistermma Před 4 lety +16

    I was so hyped when he played MGMT and TOOL. TOOL is the best band of all time and Electric Feel is MGMT’s best song I adore it.

  • @stevemaher8026
    @stevemaher8026 Před 5 lety +6

    I love your videos, I don’t know much if anything about music but you did a great job of explaining the weird time signatures so even a novice like myself could understand how it affects the sound. I’m gonna be listening for odd time signatures from now on 😆

  • @skatterpro
    @skatterpro Před 5 lety +13

    I love you for including King Crimson. Absolute legends, and still remain among the most skilled musicians on the planet.

    • @turbodistortionirmc
      @turbodistortionirmc Před 5 lety

      Go see them live while you still can.

    • @edwarddore7617
      @edwarddore7617 Před 5 lety

      They are only playing in three locations in the US, thankfully I live close to Chicago, I've never seen them before live

    • @edwarddore7617
      @edwarddore7617 Před 4 lety

      That's a shame, I paid around $100 for my ticket.

  • @VangeliRock
    @VangeliRock Před 5 lety +6

    Been watching Tyler for a year. Just signed up for his GSS last week. It's awesome...for $50.00 for the whole year, you can't get better learning material and instruction. (not a sponsored post). Straight from the heart, great job Tyler. (And now I can say, when he was explaining Kashmir and Tyler said "you just move that up chromatically", well I knew what he was talking about! amazing. :) Probably my most fav post so far, now I am heading right to his time signature lessons on GSS..so much fun!

  • @revfunk8823
    @revfunk8823 Před 5 lety +6

    Your setup is fucking wicked man....beautiful. love the guitar too

  • @sinisamilisavljevic8833
    @sinisamilisavljevic8833 Před 5 lety +5

    Odd time signatures are standard/traditional in Macedonian and Serbian folk music, often adopted by modern bands.
    For example, the band Leb I Sol has tons of instrumentals like that.
    Try "Jovano, Jovanke" (7/8, also by Nigel Kennedy), or "Devetka" (9/8).
    Also try "Ajde Jano" by Teija Niku & Grupa Balkan (7/8).

  • @daledavies_me
    @daledavies_me Před 5 lety +27

    Frame By Frame has long been one of my favourite King Crimson songs.

    • @dickvandannydevitovandyke7307
      @dickvandannydevitovandyke7307 Před 5 lety +1

      Have you heard the B'Boom Live in Argentina version? not as clean as the studio version but it's got a great sound to it

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 Před 5 lety

      Very Reichian. And appeared after Fripp had spent time in New York where Steve Reich is from.

  • @therobotFrom94
    @therobotFrom94 Před 5 lety +650

    Schism has 47 time changes
    [laughs in Dance of Eternity]

    • @pablomolina443
      @pablomolina443 Před 5 lety +126

      Dream Theatre, lots of changes, no soul.

    • @therobotFrom94
      @therobotFrom94 Před 5 lety +88

      @@pablomolina443 fair, but tool have never struck me as the most soulful either. It's all 'sex metaphors, drugs, maths, religion is bad mmkay'

    • @pablomolina443
      @pablomolina443 Před 5 lety +118

      @@therobotFrom94 I disagree, Schism is about interpersonal communication, 46&2 talks about psychology, right in 2 talks about envy and onther things, Vicarious talks about hypocrisy, Jambi is about love, is not all about sex drugs and math man.
      And also tool guitar is not about moving his fingers fast trying to show off, is about feeling an texture.

    • @therobotFrom94
      @therobotFrom94 Před 5 lety +36

      @@pablomolina443 touché, I was generalising.
      You're also forgetting that my original comment was meant to just be a joke, and I'm actually a big Tool fan. I just like a laugh/to poke fun

    • @pablomolina443
      @pablomolina443 Před 5 lety

      @Randy Henderson I'll give it a try

  • @jeffroberts_tunes
    @jeffroberts_tunes Před 5 lety +1

    Nice feature and analysis! The thing also with the MGMT is the kick hits on 1 and then 3 & 4and it makes 4 sound like the new 1. Very cool groove.

  • @dennismason3740
    @dennismason3740 Před 5 lety

    @Music is Win - spot on. Exquisite choices. Whew.

  • @rbblr94
    @rbblr94 Před 5 lety +14

    As someone who played for more than eight years before even trying to learn any theory or what a time signature even is, for some reason these kinds of riffs never seemed too hard/weird for me... I always used to just take lots of time to figure out how to play what I'm listening to, lots of repeating or slowing down. All the kids who had money to take lessons looked at me confused when I played anything that wasn't in 4/4, especially my own stuff!

    • @iota-09
      @iota-09 Před 5 lety +3

      Enlightenment in ignorance.
      I can't for the life of me figure out any time signature, yet can easily spot polyrhythms, polymetrics and odd time signs, just without numbers... Meaning i can't actually do anything with that knowledge.

    • @rbblr94
      @rbblr94 Před 5 lety +2

      @@iota-09 I know the feeling. Though, as a one man band, I did have to start figuring out some stuff to get recordings tighter, playing along with a click or drum program.

    • @LOOMING_WRAITH_OF_BAD_OMEN
      @LOOMING_WRAITH_OF_BAD_OMEN Před 5 lety +5

      Sick humblebrag, dude.

    • @user-dj9iu2et3r
      @user-dj9iu2et3r Před 5 lety

      @@LOOMING_WRAITH_OF_BAD_OMEN was waiting for this comment

  • @captainstrangiato961
    @captainstrangiato961 Před 5 lety +134

    King Crimson might be the greatest band not known by most people. Criminally underrated.

    • @fernandocrespin7201
      @fernandocrespin7201 Před 5 lety +42

      Crimsonally underrated

    • @dontewalker6919
      @dontewalker6919 Před 5 lety +2

      King crimson is in jojo's bizarre adventure

    • @notagod7804
      @notagod7804 Před 5 lety +11

      King Crimson needs the respect for “starting” the progressive movement that allowed Pink Floyd, rush and yes (to name a few) to get so popular

    • @jeremyherz1969
      @jeremyherz1969 Před 5 lety

      James Foreals my dad knew about king crimson and it’s not anywhere near the genre he listens to court of the crimson king is a great song

    • @packratrust
      @packratrust Před 5 lety +3

      @James def not overrated.. just not mainstream today

  • @loranceb
    @loranceb Před 4 lety

    Queens “is” indeed perfection. Love the guitar you used for that groove.

  • @mikealexander2005
    @mikealexander2005 Před 4 lety +1

    I already liked your content but seeing your reverence for tool just took it to another level.

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 Před 5 lety +8

    ahh starting off with AiC! and King Crimson is amazing indeed! Great work man!

  • @empirestatelvr3694
    @empirestatelvr3694 Před 5 lety +3

    “Frame by Frame” off of Discipline by King Crimson. Excellent excellent choice!

  • @robcobi
    @robcobi Před 5 lety +2

    Great channel, just found it. Your guitar face makes me smile. Great work, keep it up :-)

  • @xreasezanmoody7633
    @xreasezanmoody7633 Před 4 lety

    I’m a drummer and writer but godam *I really enjoy watching and listening to guitarist and bassist do their thing!*
    Almost makes me wanna learn how to play both bass and guitar...especially bass!

  • @Kylora2112
    @Kylora2112 Před 5 lety +41

    How about "Legendary Licks You Think Are In Odd Time Signatures (But Are Really In 4/4 or 3/4)"
    I'll nominate one my band learned. Until I saw the sheet music, I swore the bridge (the "It's just another Sunday in a tired old street" part) on in "We Built This City" by Starship was in 7/8 or 9/8 because of the weird accents.

    • @ivanbrasla
      @ivanbrasla Před 5 lety +3

      The pot by Tool

    • @HopperDragon
      @HopperDragon Před 5 lety +1

      The keyboard solo of lingus by snarky puppy. That shit is in 4/4. It really does not sound or feel like 4/4.

    • @markovjp
      @markovjp Před 5 lety

      Anesthetize or Fear of a Blank Planet by Porcupine Tree. They could go in this video too though - both songs have "odd" time sigs and 4/4 sections

  • @mikaelz7374
    @mikaelz7374 Před 5 lety +21

    Hey tyler! Could you do a lesson on how to use delay effectively? Love your stuff, keep it up!

  • @bellyfullofmusic
    @bellyfullofmusic Před 5 lety

    My favorite vid by you so far... way cool stuff

  • @Phil_Goodman
    @Phil_Goodman Před 5 lety

    I can't get enough of ur channel

  • @Nesmorbutt
    @Nesmorbutt Před 5 lety +12

    Drop D with Double Denim, so metal it hurts👍

  • @mankuzos1473
    @mankuzos1473 Před 5 lety +6

    14:32 Tool - Schism

  • @SixStringStudies
    @SixStringStudies Před 5 lety

    Love that clean you played, very cool. 👍🏻🎸

  • @Triathalife
    @Triathalife Před 5 lety

    Thank you so much for the idea of breaking down an odd time signature into smaller chunks 12,12,123 for example. This makes so much more sense in my mind.

  • @Rustyjamesman
    @Rustyjamesman Před 5 lety +103

    licks that are just people licking things

  • @Orion854
    @Orion854 Před 4 lety +50

    After listening, the whole Fear Inoculum must be here 🤟🏻

    • @tgdrums5374
      @tgdrums5374 Před 4 lety +2

      scratch that, how about every single tool album to date.

    • @dragostego
      @dragostego Před 4 lety +1

      FI is their worst album to date lol it's a solid 5/10. The rest of their catalogue is perfect and infinitely better tbh.

    • @swaggareli
      @swaggareli Před 4 lety +8

      ryan dirks Yoooo how do I get into the cool guy club? You guys taking applications?

    • @KoDi82
      @KoDi82 Před 4 lety +5

      ryan dirks fuck you, buddy

    • @brianwalendy3735
      @brianwalendy3735 Před 4 lety +2

      @@dragostego "I sold my soul to make a record, dipshit,
      Then
      You
      BOUGHT
      OOONNNEEE!"

  • @christopherrichey9137
    @christopherrichey9137 Před 4 lety

    You had me at 11:02...talking about the odd beats...and worked that into your video edit. Wow. Just, wow.

  • @simo21beatrice
    @simo21beatrice Před 5 lety

    Great video, probably the best I've seen on this channel 🤘🏻

  • @dinospumoni663
    @dinospumoni663 Před 5 lety +29

    I think the "Schism" heavy part at 17:38 is actually 7/8 then 5/8, not 5/8 then 7/8. Makes way more sense to feel it that way.

    • @ShpiggityShpike
      @ShpiggityShpike Před 5 lety +3

      You're correct, its labeled backwards there for sure, and helps distinguish it from the 5/8 to 7/8 verse, while holding the same overall timing.

    • @mikefearon3577
      @mikefearon3577 Před 5 lety

      I can count it both ways and also as 2 measures of 6/8

    • @mikefearon3577
      @mikefearon3577 Před 5 lety +2

      And as 6/4 come to think of it.

    • @dinospumoni663
      @dinospumoni663 Před 5 lety +2

      @@mikefearon3577 You certainly *can* count it either way (as well as any way that mathematically adds up) but it's more about which way feels the most natural and which the composer intended.

  • @DocLobster94
    @DocLobster94 Před 4 lety +17

    Lengendary licks no one plays because they are “mainstream”

  • @beyondlimitsproductions1468

    This is sooo cool...I like the feeling of these odd timings, sounds so epic !

  • @adamhlms1
    @adamhlms1 Před 4 lety

    Awesome playing as usual!

  • @SteffyCush
    @SteffyCush Před 5 lety +5

    have always wanted to see a vid on frame by frame's riff(s), nice!!

  • @user-ke8xd6tk6i
    @user-ke8xd6tk6i Před 5 lety +20

    Steve Reich and his Piano Phase endorses King Crimson soo much

  • @MrJesusHKrist
    @MrJesusHKrist Před 3 lety

    I love the videos but never realized you were into Tool, you're now my favorite

  • @tzgaming207
    @tzgaming207 Před 4 lety

    i'm not a musician but i think you've nailed down what attracts me to so many of my favorite bands (many of which you touched on here) 😆🤘

  • @benjaminvroman5553
    @benjaminvroman5553 Před 5 lety +4

    I’d argue that all of hanging tree could be conceptualized in 10/8 (or as a 5/4 clave). It could go either way, and I’m absolutely not insulting or criticizing your analysis of it, Tyler, but when I listen to the intro riff, I hear it more clearly as the 3+3+2+2 eighth note feel that characterizes the 5/4 clave (or 10/8 as 6/8 + 4/8). You identified the 10/8 feel in the solo section, but, at least in my opinion, I feel like the riff has always been expressing it (just at a different speed I guess). Again, I’m totally not criticizing you here Tyler, and I thought this was a great video. That’s just always been my impression when I’ve listened to hanging tree in the past.

  • @joelee5875
    @joelee5875 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for the info., I was happy to learn the intro to Kashmir, very c c cool

  • @jerrymilam5876
    @jerrymilam5876 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Buddy ,I was doing it the same way on more than one tune.When I play copy tunes which is rare but I always wont them to be dead on,out of respect of who wrote them.And once again ,great job.

  • @tonymc3817
    @tonymc3817 Před 5 lety +26

    Dude, you looked like you were wareing a 👑 , nice jams

  • @joesosa41
    @joesosa41 Před 5 lety +11

    I see King Crimson and I click. I'll always take the time to hear more and more about King Crimson/Fripp guitar parts.

  • @PaulTheSkeptic
    @PaulTheSkeptic Před 4 lety +1

    That's really cool. I've heard Frame by Frame a thousand time and I never knew this about it. Thanks.

  • @bleyse1916
    @bleyse1916 Před 5 lety +2

    Literally the first song is my favorite rock song. My day is a good one