Been on the Psilocybe hunt for close to 30 years i think the first two years i occasionally got a lookalike so it is a concern, for the novice this is a great clip for experienced folks its a reminder regardless it is worth the watch.
@@jhowardsupporter Bro the stalks will go Blue like Navy Blue very fast & often are a whitish colour, the caps if fresh can have a blueish hue on the edges but only when they are wet however the tops of various NZ types will if exposed to sun can be Golden or brown/gold & have blue staining but for sure the stalks are the giveaway they should in most types other than liberty Caps go Blue faster than most other parts of the Shroom hope that helps if your not sure ask a friend or look online for examples there are quite a few, But Be Careful If you are Totally Unsure don't bother there are nasty lookalikes that don't go Blue in any way at all
@@karlashdown5228 Sweet. I don't know what to offer in return. In Aus I can rattle off a couple of websites that will send you seed for any. That Shaman one, Australis I think they'll send out a lot plus there is other ones. Otherwise you can go to Amsterdam and shove things inside yourself in rubbers cos the dogs can't smell that. People only get done cos they got like 40- 50 balloons inside. Couple of seeds. Nah.
Here in Florida we trip over psilocybe mushrooms... no pun intended. They grow like weeds there. I'm up in NC now and there plenty up here also. Just have to look outside the psilocybe species like Pholiota or Pluteus Americanus. Extremely common everywhere I go.
Thank you so much for providing this crucial information. We need a lot more resources and information on mushrooms and plant based psychedelics relevant to Australia.
I'm in the Central Coast NSW. Microdosed years ago when I owned a house with gold tops. Never felt so normal, so joyous in a subtle way. I am so frustrated in trying to find them again, I'm thinking of driving up to Nimbin hoping for street seller. Does anyone know, can I freeze some? Or do they lose their efficacy?
@@soulthriver-oz6470 You've probably already been told this by now, but just in case, you can store them in honey, in a jar. They'll last for ages like that :) . As for freezing, I have no idea whatsoever. Like you, I'm here looking for as much info as i can find. I've only ever bought them from or been given them ( been quite lucky there, they always seem to find me!) by other people. I thought it was about time I trained myself up on proper ID-ing of all the therapeutic shrooms ( and their potentially deadly lookalikes) so that I can feel more confident foraging for them myself, as like yourself, I had a really positive experience microdosing. I don't want to feel dependent on other people supplying me with them. Personally, I've found that ONE really meaningful mushroom trip ( approached with set intentions, etc) per year is also beneficial for mental health.
@@3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs Thanks, no I didn't know about the honey!ook like I'll be doing a long drive to Nmbn soon, no luck here. I've heard even experienced hunters can pick toxic shrms. Yeah micro d is the way to go.
Always go foraging with someone who knows what they are doing when it comes to P.Sub. There can be shrooms that look similar, particularly deadly Gallerina. Once you know the difference you'll be good to go. In South Australia P.Sub has a pretty short fruiting period usually early-mid July after rain and very cold mornings.
The photos at 8.19 are excellent. Perfect example of what they look like (in the parts of Australia you've mentioned). For me the wavy stem is one of the most unique identifiers of gold tops. That and the blue tinge as they bruise, as you've mentioned. Thanks for info about the gill colour changing from cream to brown with age. I didn't know that, and found a cream gilled one and was wondering why it wasn't more brown.
Fantastic detail here - there's some species that look sorta-almost like subs that could cause problems if people don't know this stuff. Quality video.
I found (I think) some subs but they were so dry they were hard, so didn't bruise blue (couldn't bruise at all). Question is, are they still active when dry? Is that normal they don't bruise anymore, i.e. was I mistaking the type?
psilocybe alutacea looks a lot like psilocybe pelliculosa.. how can you tell the difference? saw a bunch, i think, in early june in melbourne. The ones I saw looked much more like the first slide of them
@@entheotv Thanks. I will. The ones i saw look a lot like psilocybe semilaceasta too. hmmm. They were growing from moist dirt amongst eucalyptus undergrowth. I find these look a bit similar. I will post on one the website you recommend plus watch your vid. cheers again
I want to try a tiny raw piece of just one fully white traditional looking mushroom I found in my garden yesterday. Its flat on top with a v slightly raised v small mound top centre that is a few shades darker. Does it sound poisonous? Or psilocybin type?
Smurfs Turn blue very quick , instanly , might find ones actually blue among the pack sometimes ...had it nothing happen ,best night ever ....foraging is a quest , buggered by the of end of day ...safrrons and jacks along way too...its fun
Thankyou but this is all too hard. So many lookalikes with subtle differences. I need an expert to come to my small acreage & show me the right ones. I've got about 3 varieties but no gold tops unfortunately, the ones I REALLY want.
@@cainebarlow216 In NZ i have been out most years since i was a teen not really hunting but always looking & have found many often varied types of Psilocybe containing fungi you mentioned Wareroa in the clip 20 years ago near Wellington my friend brought me some of these because he just wasn't 100% to be honest neither was i but he tried one & the rest is history now i find these in my local park in Auckland. My reason for wanting to know more was just curiosity as anomalies among some of the Blue turning fungi i have found are many & varied but i love the whole experience i don't even partake any more when & if i find i give away to friends many of whom have taken to microdosing the last few years. I will check Shroomery for a visual of Papuana just out of curiosity's sake. Again thank you for the Clip very well done.
Very informative. I recently thought I found one of these mushroom species. Which prompted me to research the topic. Is there a contact email that I can send the pic of the mushroom for identification?
This is excellent but lacking the one answer I was looking for. Are there any of the **visual** lookalike species which both bruise blue AND are poisonous? I know some of the visual lookalikes are poisonous, but are they any of the ones that also bruise blue? Or are the visual lookalikes that bruise blue safe to mix in with a bag of genuine psilos in the case of a mistaken identification? Are the other poisonous varieties that bruise blue **visual** lookalikes or are they **visually** quite different? I'm trying to put this as clearly as possible but language is such a PITA. Shit should just be legal. Hate this country sometimes.
Poor Australia is very impoverished as far as number of _Psilocybe_ species. Especially compared to North America. There are places on the northern coastline of Oregon when one can find 5 species in a couple square km area -- _P. semilanceata,_ _P. peliculosa,_ _P. cyanescens,_ _P. azurescens,_ and _P. allenii._ One can probably find many more species than that in the same area, in parts of Mexico.
@@philmusson1265 - It's definitely a good species to have, if you're going to have so few. _Ps. cyanescens_ is pretty widespread on the West Coast of the USA. And the eastern USA species _Ps. ovoidiocystidiata_ is spreading very rapidly now on the West coast -- and it's a spring fruiter, so N. America has 2 seasons of heavy wood-lover fruiting.
Don’t listen to this telling you to only have a couple of grams , that is bad information , ….research know 100% what it is and then micro dose if it’s ok like only take a small very small amount like a 10th of a gram first time , there are loads of video on psychedelics , (magic mushrooms) if ever not sure simply just don’t ever ever do it .
It is thought that they were introduced with the pine seedlings, possibly shipped from another part of the country, Victoria or Tasmania. No doubt, a population study of Psilocybe subaeruginosa will answer this question at some point.
people have also found drying them on brown paper bags for the spore print & cutting them up to spread also works the rougher the brown paper the better as it is unbleached & will breakdown fast & also give the spores food once the breakdown starts & the mycelium starts to appear so i hear😉
Hi, can anyone please help me, i was microdosing last year. i have since developed Trigeminal neuralgia (nerve pain down the side of the face) and every time i microdose now it seems to excacerbae the pain. can anyone please explain why this is?
@@mathewtaylor9124 I have some mushrooms but I’m afraid of doing it on my own. My first mdma was great, the second time I had the worst “downer” for weeks after I was a wreck. Don’t think I’ll do that again.
No body is forcing you to consume mushrooms , don’t take things you have no clue about , unless you like to play Russian roulette with your life , your choice.
Thanks for your feedback Mathew, Remember everyone has to start somewhere. I think this was one of Caine very first attempts at such a lecture, so with that in mind, we feel he did well. It the content that is key and he covers that well. We suggest you have a look at the below link if your looking for further support ID psilocybe-subaeruginosa - www.entheogenesis.org/resources/
Been on the Psilocybe hunt for close to 30 years i think the first two years i occasionally got a lookalike so it is a concern, for the novice this is a great clip for experienced folks its a reminder regardless it is worth the watch.
Man I was out there squeezing everything I came across looking for the blue colour. How long does it take to go blue anyway??? Is it instant???
@@jhowardsupporter Bro the stalks will go Blue like Navy Blue very fast & often are a whitish colour, the caps if fresh can have a blueish hue on the edges but only when they are wet however the tops of various NZ types will if exposed to sun can be Golden or brown/gold & have blue staining but for sure the stalks are the giveaway they should in most types other than liberty Caps go Blue faster than most other parts of the Shroom hope that helps if your not sure ask a friend or look online for examples there are quite a few, But Be Careful If you are Totally Unsure don't bother there are nasty lookalikes that don't go Blue in any way at all
@@karlashdown5228 Sweet. I don't know what to offer in return. In Aus I can rattle off a couple of websites that will send you seed for any. That Shaman one, Australis I think they'll send out a lot plus there is other ones. Otherwise you can go to Amsterdam and shove things inside yourself in rubbers cos the dogs can't smell that. People only get done cos they got like 40- 50 balloons inside. Couple of seeds. Nah.
@@jhowardsupporter No need bro just enjoy share & stay safe & take care.
Here in Florida we trip over psilocybe mushrooms... no pun intended. They grow like weeds there.
I'm up in NC now and there plenty up here also. Just have to look outside the psilocybe species like Pholiota or Pluteus Americanus. Extremely common everywhere I go.
Thank you so much for providing this crucial information.
We need a lot more resources and information on mushrooms and plant based psychedelics relevant to Australia.
I'm in the Central Coast NSW. Microdosed years ago when I owned a house with gold tops. Never felt so normal, so joyous in a subtle way. I am so frustrated in trying to find them again, I'm thinking of driving up to Nimbin hoping for street seller. Does anyone know, can I freeze some? Or do they lose their efficacy?
@@soulthriver-oz6470 You've probably already been told this by now, but just in case, you can store them in honey, in a jar. They'll last for ages like that :) . As for freezing, I have no idea whatsoever. Like you, I'm here looking for as much info as i can find.
I've only ever bought them from or been given them ( been quite lucky there, they always seem to find me!) by other people. I thought it was about time I trained myself up on proper ID-ing of all the therapeutic shrooms ( and their potentially deadly lookalikes) so that I can feel more confident foraging for them myself, as like yourself, I had a really positive experience microdosing. I don't want to feel dependent on other people supplying me with them. Personally, I've found that ONE really meaningful mushroom trip ( approached with set intentions, etc) per year is also beneficial for mental health.
@@3leggedsharkkickssurferinballs Thanks, no I didn't know about the honey!ook like I'll be doing a long drive to Nmbn soon, no luck here. I've heard even experienced hunters can pick toxic shrms. Yeah micro d is the way to go.
Thanks very much Caine, Nick, Simon, photography/other contributers and EGA.
A wonderful and very important presentation 🍄❤️
Always go foraging with someone who knows what they are doing when it comes to P.Sub. There can be shrooms that look similar, particularly deadly Gallerina. Once you know the difference you'll be good to go. In South Australia P.Sub has a pretty short fruiting period usually early-mid July after rain and very cold mornings.
I'm struggling to ID it, currently relying on if it bruises blue or not.
Going hunting after watching this I'll feel more confident in picking what's right cheers man new to the field 👍 awesome information
this is great, very useful info, and the info on species is invaluable and hard to find, thanks a lot
I am commonly finding p. Alutacea at my farm in the blue mountains. I find them in kangaroo and horse dung.
cool. good to hear.
I can't believe he completely ignored SA as a region of Australia! The mushrooms here are epic!
Prolific in SA
Thank you so much for this video. Appreciate your work :)
When the subaeruginosa dries out to the point of the cap being "white" it will always have a slight blue hue
The photos at 8.19 are excellent. Perfect example of what they look like (in the parts of Australia you've mentioned). For me the wavy stem is one of the most unique identifiers of gold tops. That and the blue tinge as they bruise, as you've mentioned. Thanks for info about the gill colour changing from cream to brown with age. I didn't know that, and found a cream gilled one and was wondering why it wasn't more brown.
Thank you. you are so learned about your subject. Amazing.
Fantastic detail here - there's some species that look sorta-almost like subs that could cause problems if people don't know this stuff. Quality video.
I have heard from a reliable source that alutacea & semilanceata does grow on the Mid North Coast, NSW
thank you! nice sounds too. definitely got asmr from this video
What a great guy love your work 👏 thankyou
Thank you so much!
Excellent presentation.
Great video, thanks
P-Alutacea found some of these in Auckland NZ in 2016 wasn't 100% sure what species they were then but they are here.
Where can I buy the fungi fold out laminated poster you showed at the end?
That would be great, thanks.
Found Alutacea in Footscray today!
I found (I think) some subs but they were so dry they were hard, so didn't bruise blue (couldn't bruise at all). Question is, are they still active when dry? Is that normal they don't bruise anymore, i.e. was I mistaking the type?
yes very normal
won't drop spores either if they're old n dry
psilocybe alutacea looks a lot like psilocybe pelliculosa.. how can you tell the difference? saw a bunch, i think, in early june in melbourne. The ones I saw looked much more like the first slide of them
Have you also viewed this video, it should help - czcams.com/video/nxraeLqqw3c/video.html
@@entheotv Thanks. I will. The ones i saw look a lot like psilocybe semilaceasta too. hmmm. They were growing from moist dirt amongst eucalyptus undergrowth. I find these look a bit similar. I will post on one the website you recommend plus watch your vid. cheers again
Bit confused about the pronouncing of Psilocybe as the word Psilocybin is pronounced as silo-cybe-bin.. great presentation BTW..
Thank you great video very informative and well presented
What does it mean when you say "sterile specimen" when refereing to the gills remaining white? In regards to psipcybe subarruginosa
Good video
I want to try a tiny raw piece of just one fully white traditional looking mushroom I found in my garden yesterday. Its flat on top with a v slightly raised v small mound top centre that is a few shades darker. Does it sound poisonous? Or psilocybin type?
Smurfs Turn blue very quick , instanly , might find ones actually blue among the pack sometimes ...had it nothing happen ,best night ever ....foraging is a quest , buggered by the of end of day ...safrrons and jacks along way too...its fun
Great content. Thank you 🙏🌈🍄
What ever you do don't eat the mushrooms you see in hyperspace .if you eat them they collapse the universe
with the P.semilanceata i think you mean 6 to 22cm tall.. not mm as that would mean they dont grow longer then your finger nail.... just making sure
Very useful thanks!
Nice one Caine very informative
Thankyou but this is all too hard. So many lookalikes with subtle differences. I need an expert to come to my small acreage & show me the right ones. I've got about 3 varieties but no gold tops unfortunately, the ones I REALLY want.
amazing.. thank you :)
Must have been pressed for time cant find P-Papuana except at the start no description, Still a great clip anyway.
This is a really rare species, and no one is out looking for these in any large numbers.
@@cainebarlow216 In NZ i have been out most years since i was a teen not really hunting but always looking & have found many often varied types of Psilocybe containing fungi you mentioned Wareroa in the clip 20 years ago near Wellington my friend brought me some of these because he just wasn't 100% to be honest neither was i but he tried one & the rest is history now i find these in my local park in Auckland. My reason for wanting to know more was just curiosity as anomalies among some of the Blue turning fungi i have found are many & varied but i love the whole experience i don't even partake any more when & if i find i give away to friends many of whom have taken to microdosing the last few years. I will check Shroomery for a visual of Papuana just out of curiosity's sake. Again thank you for the Clip very well done.
Very informative. I recently thought I found one of these mushroom species. Which prompted me to research the topic. Is there a contact email that I can send the pic of the mushroom for identification?
This guide will help you - www.entheogenesis.org/ega-resources/blog-post-title-one-mcn4m-ds7aw-2tfdj
This is excellent but lacking the one answer I was looking for.
Are there any of the **visual** lookalike species which both bruise blue AND are poisonous?
I know some of the visual lookalikes are poisonous, but are they any of the ones that also bruise blue? Or are the visual lookalikes that bruise blue safe to mix in with a bag of genuine psilos in the case of a mistaken identification?
Are the other poisonous varieties that bruise blue **visual** lookalikes or are they **visually** quite different?
I'm trying to put this as clearly as possible but language is such a PITA.
Shit should just be legal. Hate this country sometimes.
been thinking about this too, do a spore print, really is the only way to be 100% certain.
Don't just rely on blue bruising to determine if it's a psilocybe, it's important to use multiple ways to identify each mushroom
Rather intrested in papuana and i know where it grow's locally just waiting for some good rains to hit!
Poor Australia is very impoverished as far as number of _Psilocybe_ species. Especially compared to North America. There are places on the northern coastline of Oregon when one can find 5 species in a couple square km area -- _P. semilanceata,_ _P. peliculosa,_ _P. cyanescens,_ _P. azurescens,_ and _P. allenii._ One can probably find many more species than that in the same area, in parts of Mexico.
But who needs 5 different species? Lucky Australia has one of the most potent in P. subaeruginosa and it's absolutely ubiquitous.
@@philmusson1265 - It's definitely a good species to have, if you're going to have so few.
_Ps. cyanescens_ is pretty widespread on the West Coast of the USA. And the eastern USA species _Ps. ovoidiocystidiata_ is spreading very rapidly now on the West coast -- and it's a spring fruiter, so N. America has 2 seasons of heavy wood-lover fruiting.
Are these edible varieties?
NO
@@troymorris9530 they are edible but you get high off them
Hell yeah dude. Just a couple of grams at first tho haha
Don’t listen to this telling you to only have a couple of grams , that is bad information , ….research know 100% what it is and then micro dose if it’s ok like only take a small very small amount like a 10th of a gram first time , there are loads of video on psychedelics , (magic mushrooms) if ever not sure simply just don’t ever ever do it .
Is the Gallernina Stipe as fibrous as the Subaerginosas?
Yes the two stipes side by side appear identical. Need to identify using other features.
The stems of the Subs are very fibrous. That is the obvious way to determine they are them. Other lookalikes are softer n mushy.
Do you know how the subregonosia got into Balingup....??
It is thought that they were introduced with the pine seedlings, possibly shipped from another part of the country, Victoria or Tasmania. No doubt, a population study of Psilocybe subaeruginosa will answer this question at some point.
@@cainebarlow216 yeah ok. Some people say an old hippie introduced it there too.
Thoes subs where growing up the street in the garden bed and the council came and sprayed them.
Is Fungi flip only of real use in Tassie?
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I suspect not as mushrooms can change dramatically from region to region. Should be plenty of info available on Washington state mushrooms though
spores in a spray bottle, suspended in what solution? just water?
yes people use just water.
Distilled water or rain water are best
people have also found drying them on brown paper bags for the spore print & cutting them up to spread also works the rougher the brown paper the better as it is unbleached & will breakdown fast & also give the spores food once the breakdown starts & the mycelium starts to appear so i hear😉
Hi, can anyone please help me, i was microdosing last year. i have since developed Trigeminal neuralgia (nerve pain down the side of the face) and every time i microdose now it seems to excacerbae the pain. can anyone please explain why this is?
Have a full dose.
@@mathewtaylor9124 hi. I went to a ceremony and she would not let me do it?? She used mdma instead. I was disappointed.
@@heatherbarnes142 buy mushrooms on deep web haha honestly mdma is putrid
@@mathewtaylor9124 I have some mushrooms but I’m afraid of doing it on my own. My first mdma was great, the second time I had the worst “downer” for weeks after I was a wreck. Don’t think I’ll do that again.
A better question is why the hell are you still dosing if it messes you up? Seems dumb...
Always run into sometimes very convincing gals & gyms on forages. Frustrating.
You’re in Tassie haha fairy wrens
Great this is stupid i have to die to find out
No body is forcing you to consume mushrooms , don’t take things you have no clue about , unless you like to play Russian roulette with your life , your choice.
Your pronunciation is
K I L L I N G M E
not sure I can hear this out
Hahahaha when I first heard a Mycologist's pronunciation I was surprised too :'). Not exactly what you'd expect
@@SaucyTuRkLeBiRd what would you expect?
Which pronunciation?
@@cainebarlow216 Take "psilocybe", for example. When I was first doing research I assumed it was "Sil-o-sibe" not "sil-oh-si-bee"
@@SaucyTuRkLeBiRd same. till i was corrected. as we say "Sil-o-sibe-in"!
Thanks for the info but you you could of done a much better presentation and narration
Thanks for your feedback Mathew, Remember everyone has to start somewhere. I think this was one of Caine very first attempts at such a lecture, so with that in mind, we feel he did well. It the content that is key and he covers that well.
We suggest you have a look at the below link if your looking for further support ID psilocybe-subaeruginosa - www.entheogenesis.org/resources/