My Unscripted Thoughts on Total Drama Island S2

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  • @EiscueBall
    @EiscueBall Před 6 měsíci +28

    I really thought they were setting up Ripper as a finalist when we had the first 4 episodes out, he really had that main character energy going over him

  • @RoarkeIsBored
    @RoarkeIsBored Před 6 měsíci +20

    Something I find interesting about Wayne winning is that they sorta foreshadowed it with Owen's cameo since the both of them didn't need to be very fit or intelligent, super invested in the challenges, or employ dirty tactics to get far, all they did was play the game fair and make friends with the rest of their respective casts which let them float under the radar for most of their seasons. Also I'm glad he won since the Prileb plot line was an absolute dumpster fire and Julia wasn't nearly as interesting without MK (I like them as a ship too). Wayne probably could've lost Raj a little earlier so that his independence plot would have more time to build up (we can blame Prileb for taking the screentime), but overall I think he was the most deserving to win of the three since him and Raj carried it once all of the other interesting people left. It really is baffling with how the season nosedived in quality after Zee's secret reveal, since I could've put the season in the higher half of the total seasons overall with the first couple episodes, but now it's sorta just floating above AS and PI for me (and does give heavy flashbacks to WT shafting everyone except for Heather and Alejandro). If they ever do make a season 3 then I seriously hope that they either drop Priya/Caleb or just boot them extremely early.

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Yeah, if I had to rank all the seasons now, it'd go:
      1. Ridonculous Race
      2. Action
      3. Island
      4. ROTI
      5. World Tour
      6. Reboot S1
      7. Reboot S2
      8. Pahkitew
      9. All-Stars

  • @user-wh7yy9gf9w
    @user-wh7yy9gf9w Před 6 měsíci +11

    I agree with you lol. Episodes 1-7 were fantastic(even if some eliminations were questionable). But episode 8-13…Man I don’t know how they fumbled the bag so hard, episode 10-12 are all genuinely all A.S level. Overall mid season

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      The episodes where Damien, Raj and Priya got eliminated were all worse than almost every episode of AS. Super disappointing.

  • @TurboZRo
    @TurboZRo Před 5 měsíci +6

    I definitely think the biggest problem with the second half of this season was the screen time split, most of the episodes in the first season and the early second season had lots of focus on our eliminated contestants, but the fact the second half shoved so much Priyleb down our throats made it so everyone after Zee’s elimination felt like a side character and when you don’t get a lot of attention in the episode you get eliminated in you just feel expendable, also Julia in the second half was really dumb like imagine if All Stars made every fall for Alejandro over and over again despite knowing that he can’t be trusted that would’ve been annoying every other returning villain lost their power when they came back but Julia kept her power which just makes everyone else feel dumb when they interact with her also absolutely agree with Chase ad Bowie I’m glad Bowie didn’t make it farther so he could go out like an icon instead being a random boot cuz they can’t get rid of Priya for some reason like she is a HUGE threat but being a threat only matters if you’re Axel ig another thing is I’m honestly glad that we had to wait longer to get all 5 episodes of the season at the same time cuz we would have been left with our super weird final five were we could piece together most of the finale and the only mystery was which Hockey Bro will make the finals that probably wouldn’t have been a mystery as it was leak was Priya isn’t making the finale again and there is no way both Hockey Bros are making it so we would’ve had: Caleb, Julia, Hockey Bro as our finale.

  • @keep3339
    @keep3339 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I think priya quitting would've been a good plotline for her character in this season, like write a plot that makes her realize her relationship with her parents is quite abusive (maybe via Millie talking to her) and after realization she quits, I think THAT is the only interesting thing they could've don't with Priya, but they didn't, they just gave her the win for some reason

  • @ryanwiebe4096
    @ryanwiebe4096 Před 6 měsíci +10

    These Last Few Episodes Have Honestly Been a Big Kick To My Balls With a Lot Of Weird Decisions Made and Wasted Potential For the Character I Thought Was Going To Win (Damien). But Overall,I Still Had Fun With This Season. Even If It Didn’t Go the Way I Wanted It To,the Journey Was Still Great. It Did Degrade Some Of the Characters,But It Was Still Entertaining At the End Of the Day.And That’s What I Like About the Reboot:It’s Never Slow

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +5

      It can't be, they only have 13 episodes to do sixteen characters justice haha

  • @zippytheduck2062
    @zippytheduck2062 Před 5 měsíci +6

    While I do agree that both Raj and Wayne carried the season’s second half, I still feel like they should’ve eliminated Raj much earlier.
    Think about it, Raj has already had individual development with Bowie in season 1, while Wayne has really nothing that doesn’t involve Raj. They don’t need to do anything crazy that changes his personality or stops him from being funny. Just, give him something new to do.
    Take for example in episode 6 of this season when Raj partners with Bowie, Wayne is clearly seen struggling to find someone else to partner up with, and just ends up with Julia because no one else picked her.
    This possibly could’ve been a hint that Wayne isn’t the best at making friends. The writers should have a small plot line of Wayne having to struggle to find someone else to bond with after Raj’s elimination. (We kind of got that in episode 12, but it was only for like 1 episode, and then got shafted pretty quickly for more Preleb drama)

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 5 měsíci +1

      These two seriously need more time apart. It is crazy that they ended up lasting so damn long with each other when I could have sworn they were going to have Wayne and Raj apart to create conflict this time around.

  • @Idk-what-to-do-name-myself69
    @Idk-what-to-do-name-myself69 Před 6 měsíci +8

    I just finished the video and I agree with you with majority of your points. Like Prileb being terrible. The second half of the season being really weak while the first half was really strong. Caleb being very inconsistent and lack of comedy in the final 6. maybe I missed it but the fact that Priya gets worked up over the little things with Caleb is really really tiring. The plot line should have ended in episode 10 and Priya gets out that episode instead of Damien due to being a threat. Also what makes Damien’s elimination more bull is the reason Wayne and Raj kept Priya over him. It’s absurd, that MK, Damien, and Raj. Who were all fan favorites and were good winners were booted back to back for the Prileb plot to last even longer then it should have. I think the season is good but the last few episodes were a total disappointment(other than the finale, that episode was great). So overall Priya ruined the second half of the season for me which is a bummer. But it is what it is.

  • @ajb5119
    @ajb5119 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I'm glad I finally found someone who doesn't like Julia. Would of been way better if her and MK swapped places. Also Ripper is the GOAT!

  • @EiscueBall
    @EiscueBall Před 6 měsíci +5

    Caleb’s character writing is so inconsistent like 😅 the writers had no idea what they wanted him to be. Sometimes he is smart enough to not join MK and Julia and other times he decides to ally with Julia alone. His bad voice acting does not help at all. Easily my least favorite character of this entire cast.

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +2

      His voice actor wasn't at fault I feel, was more of the way he had to keep doing the same annoying fodder character voice the whole season. Like Staci, almost. He needed to tone it down a little bit.

  • @whythis2341
    @whythis2341 Před měsícem

    im ridiculously late to this video but hard agree on pretty much everything
    what's crazy to me is that a lot of the elimination order issues could've been fixed if they switched some characters around; Switch Millie with Priya, Julia and MK, potentially Wayne and Raj since they for some reason gave Raj a lot of what ended up being red-herrings, then adjust the plot accordingly. Then Priya and Julia wouldn't have overstayed her welcome, Millie could get through to final 4 on her own, and MK could be the main villain. It would also fix some plot holes like Damien getting his idol stolen for no reason, since at least if MK did it she already showed us skills to back it up, for example

  • @DracoGangLive
    @DracoGangLive Před 4 měsíci +1

    I think most people count 2023 as Gen 4 becuase RR has contestants from previous gens and not an all new cast. I think technically RR spinoff would just be Gen 1 of its own series

  • @CrushAugust
    @CrushAugust Před 6 měsíci +3

    I enjoyed this season more or less, its definitely better than the first reboot season. But if they'd make a season three, I dont know what they could do with most of these characters.

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +2

      I could go into what I'd do someday, but in short I think you could squeeze another season out of some of these guys and others could be left behind. Maybe doing another AS type season is the way to go, with characters from every gen facing off.
      Of the new gen characters, I'd say you could still farm stuff out of Lauren, Chase, Emily, Julia, MK, Ripper, Axel, Damien and Zee, which isn't too bad of a rundown.

  • @Oij-Teh-Duckington
    @Oij-Teh-Duckington Před 6 měsíci +2

    THANK YOU.
    Your opinions are *valid.*
    All of them.

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks! This was pretty off the cuff but I do still stand by all of my opinions here.

  • @PassTheParcelT1mmy
    @PassTheParcelT1mmy Před 5 měsíci +2

    Honestly, I'd have no problems with Damien's elimination if his little rivalry with Julia was set up earlier into the season, but because it isn't, i doesn't REALLY make sense as to why Julia, Wayne and Raj all voted for him, when Priya was. RIGHT THERE WITHOUT IMMUNITY...

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Voting for Damien over PRIYA or JULIA is insane logic. That’d be like voting Sierra over Heather or Alejandro.

    • @SpookyMertilo
      @SpookyMertilo Před 4 měsíci

      Well ig u forgot Wayne and Raj are dumb as hell@@voiceunderthecovers

  • @user-om9my9bg5e
    @user-om9my9bg5e Před 6 měsíci +1

    Yeah the second half wasn't as enjoyable to watch as the first half to me, so i agree with most of your points.
    There's no excuse for them to drag out the Priya and Caleb plotline for 12 EPISODES, seriously wtf. It really should've ended it in ep 9 imo. But nooooo let's just get rid of the more interesting characters like MK,Raj, and Damien just so we could get these two "lovebirds" more screentime. Such a messy ass couple and it ruins both characters for me which is a shame because I enjoyed Priya in season 1. (I didn't care for Caleb tho and I still don't care about him now). Worst plotline ever.
    I don't even wanna talk about Damien's elimination. Easily TDAS Heather but worse. Its one of those "tell, don't show" type of scenes and that's my biggest problem with this season in general tbh. Such an easy pick for a finalist/winner. How they fumbled so hard. Priya should've been eliminated earlier.
    Julia's one of my favorite characters of the reboot but even I think she was a little too OP at times. I'm glad she didn't win tho because that would've not sit right with me. I wished they would've kept MK for a little longer to balance out Julia or at least let MK do most of the plotting. But hey at least their friendship was good and that's all I needed.
    Wayne and Raj are simply just peak comedy duo. They definitely carried the second half for me. Rajbow is still a very solid couple and i like the cheating plotline. Idk about Wayne winning. Don't get me wrong I'm happy that Wayne won, but I feel like they should've done more with him. Other than that, W duo and W characters on their own.
    As for the other characters, I like most of them(except for Nichelle and Millie's just eh)
    Overall, I still think the season was solid enough, it's just the second half that kinda drags it down for me for its questionable writing choices.

  • @ebi_se
    @ebi_se Před 6 měsíci +1

    Interesting points made. My personal favourites of the season are Bowie and MK as well, I am curious tho, which season do you rank higher? The Reboot or the Rematch? Bc for me, even despite it's flaws, i do find it better than the reboot

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hm... Tough call. I think the first half blows the entire first season out of the water, but the second half has some of the lowest lows in series history. I'll go with season 1. I enjoyed it more overall and it was more consistent.

  • @user-om9my9bg5e
    @user-om9my9bg5e Před 6 měsíci +1

    Here's my rankings for the characters for now:
    Favorites:
    #1-Julia
    #2-MK
    #3-Wayne
    #4-Raj
    Love:
    #5-Zee
    #6-Bowie
    #7-Scary Girl
    Like:
    #8-Damien
    #9-Axel
    #10-Ripper
    #11-Emily
    #12-Chase
    OK:
    #13-Priya
    #14-Millie
    Meh:
    #15-Caleb
    #16-Nichelle

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Caleb, Millie, Priya and Nichelle were definitely the big stinkers of the season.

    • @jordana.1133
      @jordana.1133 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Her name is Emma not Emily 😭

  • @Trooper_Day1717
    @Trooper_Day1717 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I mean I’m not gonna judge on who your favorite character in TD is, but I will say that you definitely have some interesting taste. Interesting opinions too on who was better and who was worse. Also ur opinion on Julia is very…intriguing. I mean I love Julia because she’s just like Heather and we’ve not seen a villainous girl act like Heather until Julia, however you have to remember that a lot of her actions and decisions where not always shown on screen which isn’t Julia’s fault. If anything, it’s the writers fault for not showing more. So for me, I think Julia played the exact same game that Heather did in Island and everyone respects Heathers game play because it’s badass. But for some reason Julia’s gameplay is bad? I don’t get it. Like I said, no judgement, these are your opinions, but I definitely think you should go back and rewatch season 1 and 2 of the reboot, like I have.

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 5 měsíci

      Heather has flaws. Heather got her comeuppance. Heather didn't place 4th and then 3rd back to back. Heather had a rise and fall and was shown doing more than just being bad. While Julia is trusted by everyone for no reason in S2 just to make her seem more threatening, Heather is not. While Julia's idol play is completely hidden from the viewers, Heather's is not and we get to see how she performs so there are no asspulls. I do blame the writers quite a lot in this video, but that doesn't make Julia any less ass-pulley as a character.
      There's also the fact that she's an Alejandro tier all-rounder with +100 manipulation skills on people who should know her deal by now like Priya. Heather's gameplay is badass in one season imo, and that's World Tour, while her other two seasons are dirty and/or she performs badly. But performance isn't everything to me in a character, and unfortunately, unlike Heather, Julia has practically 0 depth beneath the surface. She's just a lame OC version of Season 1 Heather to me. They've done fun things with her, yes, and I did like her pre merge, but the fact that she's such a writers pet and constantly outshines the other contestants rubs me the wrong way.

    • @Trooper_Day1717
      @Trooper_Day1717 Před 5 měsíci

      @@voiceunderthecovers I mean I understand that but when I’m looking at a character. There’s 3 things I weigh most, how good the character strategies, how much the character wants to win, and how good the character played the game. To me, it doesn’t matter whether someone is nice, mean, dumb, or even an alien. To me, it’s about who played the game the best and Julia 100% played the best game in season 2 of the reboot. U might not like her, but u can’t tell me that someone played the game better then her? Not even Caleb. And in ur first paragraph, u mention a lot of stuff that’s out of Julia’s control. Believe me, I agree that everyone should of seen thru Julia’s BS. But that’s not her fault, once again, that’s the writers fault for making everyone else dumb. In my opinion, Julia played almost the exact same game that Bowie did in season 1. Julia was just more mean about it.

  • @duncan3998
    @duncan3998 Před 4 měsíci

    Trust me man, the reboot is definitely a Gen 5 in my book..

  • @aequitad4411
    @aequitad4411 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The entire season fell apart because of a dirty little Zee-cret.

  • @facial.
    @facial. Před 6 měsíci +2

    Ok just finnished watching video i agree with everything but i did kinda like kaleb other then the out of nowhere lying shit. I feel like most of his problems that happened against his character wasnt actually his fault

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci

      I guess, but he and Priya were just very unpleasant to watch in general for me, just really wasn’t into there plot.

    • @facial.
      @facial. Před 6 měsíci

      @@voiceunderthecoversi wasn’t into their plot either next season i think they should do like a trent the right way type thing where they brake up but instead of kaleb sucking he starts pretending to be nice maybe even getting priya eliminated by tricking her to blamn the brake-back and drama on him, or take Julia out early by blaming her for his problems.

    • @facial.
      @facial. Před 6 měsíci

      @@voiceunderthecovers thoughts??

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@facial. Ehhh, honestly, I hope they go full scorched earth and end up becoming super toxic, only for Priya to quit the show in pursuit of therapy while Caleb gets immediately voted due to his unpopularity by everyone else in the game.

    • @facial.
      @facial. Před 6 měsíci

      @@voiceunderthecovers i think thats good but its a reboot at the end of the day so i think they will turn him into a Justin done right or a new gen alihandro kinda guy

  • @samuelb-1406
    @samuelb-1406 Před 5 měsíci +1

    If I made the thumbnail it would be, The Julia, The Caleb. And The Priya

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 5 měsíci

      In regards to Julia being the good or all of them sucking?

    • @samuelb-1406
      @samuelb-1406 Před 5 měsíci

      @@voiceunderthecovers julia being the good, caleb being the bad (more the boring/mediocre ), and Priya being the ugly

  • @yimmyb1459
    @yimmyb1459 Před 6 měsíci +1

    yeah they really fumbled the bag in the second half, it was on track to be my favourite season after revenge and then the second half happened. now it's just in between island and pahkitew.
    i hope we don't see a third season with just this cast because there's very limited winner choices now and the villain could only be, like, chase or something stupid like that
    nice caleb impression btw

    • @yimmyb1459
      @yimmyb1459 Před 6 měsíci

      on praleb, td writers have sucked at romance for ages. the only ships i've enjoyed since world tour are samkota and rajbow (scottney didn't get together so they don't count and neither do the goths)

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci

      Haha, thanks for the compliment, impressions are my thing so I can do most TD characters. Surprised Island is ranked so low for you.

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci

      Scottney did get together, and the goths have been a couple for over three years.. so... Also Ryan and Stephanie and Nemma were great! @@yimmyb1459

  • @cashmere8059
    @cashmere8059 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is weird because episodes 2-4 are my least favorite probably

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci

      Seriously? Why?

    • @cashmere8059
      @cashmere8059 Před 6 měsíci

      Episode 2 - Millie BS plotline starts in this episode, neked Ripper covered in butter gave me trauma (/hj) and the interesting cheating plotline hasn't happened yet so it feels pointless in the grand scheme of the season since Emma and Millie get most of the important moments but they are eliminated shortly after.
      Episode 3 - Okay maybe I'm wrong about this one cause the cheating plotline is pretty immaculate but Ripper traumatized me again in this episode (he killed all my family and burned my crops), Millie has a really unsatisfying elimination/send-off, and characters like Axel, Caleb, and Nichelle kinda disappointed me.
      Episode 4 - Cool challenge but Emma and Priya were both annoying this ep.
      Overall I think I just hate the rat faces lmao. Maybe I'm focusing too much on the negative of the early episodes. I think pretty much all of them were total misses and fumbles besides Damien. Also, Julia was my favorite character by far this season despite her flaws of being overpowered, so I like the later episodes due to that even if Caleb and Priya are UGH.

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@cashmere8059 I hate Rat Face too. They’re bringing love, don’t let them get away!
      I still loved Damien and Axel, and I can usually tolerate one or two bad subplots in a relatively great episode, so that’s why I think those episodes are still great regardless. I guess overall this season is just super flawed.

  • @UVart16
    @UVart16 Před 4 měsíci

    I’m a huge fan of Priya, but I do respect your opinion on why you hate her so I don’t have a major issue

  • @bubsimodragon
    @bubsimodragon Před 6 měsíci

    What’s wrong with Zees soda gag?

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I thought that was gonna be his entire personality, but luckily it wasn’t.

  • @Venusloveiden
    @Venusloveiden Před 6 měsíci +4

    Hot take: I like Damien’s elimination. It supposed to make you unsatisfied and pissed off on the results. Kinda like dawns elimination. It’s also is built up pretty good. It want BS like LeShwanas. So seeing the people hate the elimination showed that the writers did something right. It also sets up Priya’s elimination pretty good

    • @voiceunderthecovers
      @voiceunderthecovers  Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah but Dawn's is built up well, makes sense and feels like Scott worked for it. Julia just has the idol.

  • @facial.
    @facial. Před 6 měsíci +1

    First to comment surely not