About the Romansh language

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  • čas přidán 4. 03. 2019
  • Here is my presentation of the mysterious fourth national language of Switzerland - the Romansh! Hope you enjoy it! Please comment, I really appreciate your opinion as it helps me to improve :)
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    Link to the video "Rumantsch grischun en scolas engiadinaisas":
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  • @kinnish5267
    @kinnish5267 Před 3 lety +412

    I think that the Romansh people need to do like Ireland is doing and create a passion to save the language. It would be so sad to see this language disappear.

    • @dubmait
      @dubmait Před 3 lety +68

      maybe wales would be a better example than Ireland

    • @michaelschudel6706
      @michaelschudel6706 Před 3 lety +10

      They actually did so

    • @barnbersonol
      @barnbersonol Před 3 lety +23

      Do you know how many ppl in Ireland speak Irish fluently and use it as their preferred language?
      No even 1%
      And it's going down.

    • @dubmait
      @dubmait Před 3 lety +15

      @@barnbersonol im not sure if fluent speakers are going down. However speakers in areas where its the main language are dropping.
      Theyre are many fluent speakers of irish just not living in the gaeltacht(irish speaking area)
      Theres a lot of fluent speakers in dublin and belfast where the language is growing.
      However, its declining in the heartland.
      I believe its similar inWales, however not as sharp a decline and the heartland is stronger.

    • @fearmor3855
      @fearmor3855 Před 3 lety +6

      Ireland is a really shit example lmao

  • @louies6914
    @louies6914 Před 3 lety +253

    As a Romanian,Romansh sounds like Portuguese language combined with Italian and a spice of French.Many words are similar to Romanian words.

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +34

      Very interesting ☺️🤔

    • @dittikke
      @dittikke Před 3 lety +18

      As a German Brit, I don't speak either Romanian or Romansh but they sound similar to me. But counting up to ten reveals that that's by chance, I compared my Romanian 1 to 10 (such as it is) with a teacher I met on a local train speaking Romansh, 1 to 10 in Romansh is definitely closer to French than Romanian.

    • @samuelherman4859
      @samuelherman4859 Před 3 lety +5

      I speake English and Spanish and some words look same to Spanish or French I don't know. But reading was so clear

    • @thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician
      @thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician Před 3 lety +9

      I’m Portuguese and for me it sounded a bit like German with romance words, but I get the similarities to my language. Very cool

    • @juandiegovalverde1982
      @juandiegovalverde1982 Před 3 lety +6

      I have thought that a Romanian and a Rumantsch could understand each other.

  • @mike36dc
    @mike36dc Před 3 lety +177

    My grandmother's first language! Her last name was Lutz and she was from Sagogn. Thank you for the Romansh break down: it was wonderful. There is a significant focus on preserving the language and it is used as the first language in early school (elementary in US).
    Once my grandmother was at a bus stop in Los Angeles (1930's) sitting quietly with my grandfather next to another couple. After about 10 minutes the lady said something to her husband in Romansh, and then my grandmother spoke to her in Romansh: it was like a family reunion, only when you never met that family member! They sat there speaking for about 2 hours and let all the buses pass.

    • @simongartmann5294
      @simongartmann5294 Před 3 lety +7

      I live in Waltensburg. 15minutes from sagogn. Time has changed, sagogn aswell 😉

    • @recoverhealth2062
      @recoverhealth2062 Před 3 lety +2

      I know someone with that name from Transylvania, Romania. Currently lives in Dresden, married to a German girl, has a child.

    • @kyll5552
      @kyll5552 Před 3 lety +4

      that is so beautiful. it’s like when i started speaking french with my uber driver and we got so distracted he missed my exit on the highway

    • @rickgold4854
      @rickgold4854 Před rokem +3

      Romansh is argued to be a Northern Italian dialect by some people.

    • @richardmullins1883
      @richardmullins1883 Před rokem +1

      That bus story was very emotionally moving. 💌

  • @cseblivestreaming8073
    @cseblivestreaming8073 Před 4 lety +75

    This video was pretty good at explaining romansch, and had a nice balance of going into detail and simplifying things so the video doesn’t get boring. As a romansch speaker I’m essentially satisfied

  • @DestinationTravel
    @DestinationTravel Před 11 měsíci +2

    A friend of mine's grandparents were Romansh speaking but moved to Bern for work and 2 generations later their grandchildren only speak a little. I visited their beautiful village near Italian border and was happy to hear people greet me in Romansh. I think tourism also makes it less useful

  • @Andreas_42
    @Andreas_42 Před 3 lety +42

    As a Swiss, it's nice to see a video about Romansh. Good work 😊
    Up until the 11th century, a variety of Romansh was the main language in the Swiss Rhine Valley, the Principality of Liechtenstein and around Bregenz in Austria. In some city and village names the reminiscence is still there. In this names, the second syllable is stressed, not the first one like you would expect in German, e.g. Sargans (CH), Vaduz (FL), Damüls (AT).

  • @erottegmail
    @erottegmail Před 4 lety +191

    When I heard speaking Romansch for the first time, I was completely captured by it. For an Italian, it sounds so... cute!

    • @carpelinguae9097
      @carpelinguae9097 Před 3 lety +7

      For a French-Canadian, too!!!

    • @roesi1985
      @roesi1985 Před 3 lety +12

      Same with Swiss German for a German. I guess the Swiss are just cute for everybody

    • @carpelinguae9097
      @carpelinguae9097 Před 3 lety +7

      @@roesi1985 So true. I am from Québec and even though I knew people said "septante", "huitante" and "nonante" the first time I went to Genève at age 15, I actually blurted out "Ooohhhh!" because it was cute to hear in real life!!!

    • @nusvivin6905
      @nusvivin6905 Před 3 lety +3

      Pia levas paterlar empau romontsch? Ti eis cordialmein envidaus ella muntogna. Jeu fetgel capuns sche ti das part bauld avunda😉🥰.

    • @WildWestNeko
      @WildWestNeko Před 3 lety +1

      @@roesi1985 My husband (American) thinks that Swiss-German sounds like one is constantly coughing and clearing one's throat. :C
      @Carpe Linguae The first time i hear quatrevingt etc, i thought this is too complicated, let's go back to suisse-romande. :)

  • @daniels2761
    @daniels2761 Před 3 lety +16

    Great video! My grandfather was Swiss-Romansh. Surprisingly, after he immigrated to the US he found Romansh useful sometimes. Thanks to the Latin roots, a Romansh speaker can understand many other languages pretty easily. He was able to roughly communicate with Spanish speakers.

  • @duriluzi7599
    @duriluzi7599 Před rokem +21

    Hi! So I might be 3 years late (sorry about that :D) but I just wanted to say that I am in fact speaking Romansh natively and I thought this video was very nice and it's good to see people still being interested in our language. I just wanted to clear up some stuff.
    It is actually 5 "idioms" in which Romansh is split up, the reason you may have heared 7 is because that is the amount of "dialects/idioms" that were used to create Rumantsch Grischun, basically they simply wanted to recognize a wider spectrum of our language, it is very common for individual villages to have individual dialects. Also The 5 Idioms (Vallader, Puter, Surmiran, Sutsilvan & Sursilvan) Are quiet different. For the majority of Romansh speakers, it is very hard to understand more than 2-3 of them.
    For the reason as in why Romansh has become the 4th National language of switzerland, is that it was a statement. As you've said correctly Hitler wanted to "reunite" all germans. Similarly so did Mussolini try to gather the italians. To prevent this threat we decided to officially give Romansh the lable as a national language ( just so nobody could confuse us for an italian dialect)
    And since you asked about the language dying, all I can say is that this is probably the most discussed topic in any school that teaches Romansh. The problem we are having is that it's hardly sustainable paying for so many ressources (School books, official letters etc.) for such few people, specially when you would have to split it into another 5 seperate idioms as kids for sure can not understand all 5 of them. This is basically the reason for the introduction of "Rumantsch Grischun". A combined language everyone could at very least understand. The only problem here tho, is that we are too patriotic about our idioms, that we would never want to give it up for Rumantsch Grischun, especially since it's very hates among us speakers (me included) just because most of us think it sounds ugly, or that "it's not the same".

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před rokem +6

      Thanks very much for your input, that's super interesting and valuable!

    • @statorista8091
      @statorista8091 Před rokem

      hi, can you help me with learning romansh? maybe you can give some links to the discord servers to study it or other sites, groups, social networks? thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @RafaelAcosta-kv4qp
    @RafaelAcosta-kv4qp Před 3 lety +35

    I am Cuban American and live in Sweden , I feel in my heart that this beautiful off shoot of the Latin the mighty Romans spoke should not only survive , but also flourish and grow ,increase in popularity and be teach to children future generations ,as a Spanish speaker I would adore to be emerged in the learning of this jewel of a language .plvs- vltra.

  • @shopkidadventureclub4140
    @shopkidadventureclub4140 Před 3 lety +8

    I had a climbing partner who was Romansch. International guiding community in Interlaken where he was considered somewhat hillbilly because only 6000 people spoke his dialect. His High German wasn’t great but he also spoke decent Italian and English. He said French was easy for him and he was hilarious when he’d imitate different Swiss German accents.
    It was so exciting to be with such interesting and multilingual people. Thanks for the cool video.

  • @willremy5142
    @willremy5142 Před 3 lety +22

    My great aunt's family was from a Romansh speaking part of Switzerland. She spoke it fluently. I remember when some distant relatives came over in the 1980's them talking about how beautiful her Romansh was and that it was a form from around the turn of the 20th Century. She was born in the Eureka, CA area in the 19 teens and lived there into her early adulthood with a number of other Romansh speaking immigrants. She was a hearty woman and lived to 95, fairly sound of mind and body right up to almost the end.

    • @jjauger96
      @jjauger96 Před rokem +1

      Hi Will. Very interesting. My Romansch speaking great grandparents emigrated to Eureka, California area too! My father was born there.
      In fact, my grandfather was taught the language at home. It was just inherited from my great grandfather.
      I thought there were no other people of like nationality in the region. Was happy to find this out!

    • @willremy5142
      @willremy5142 Před rokem +2

      @@jjauger96 Hi Jeremy, according to my great aunt, there was a small community of Romansch speakers there where she grew up. If I remember correctly, it was out in the woods towards Ferndale. This would have been in the 1910s and into the 1940s, when my great aunt lived in that area. She married my biological great uncle before the war and moved away from the region after WWII, when he returned, and they built their home in South Lake Tahoe.

    • @jjauger96
      @jjauger96 Před rokem +1

      @@willremy5142 Thanks for commenting!
      Yes, they lived there around that time too. Came to the US in the 20s
      It's a small community. They probably knew each other. My last name is Romansch from Val Lumnezia.
      Great grandfather served in WW2 for the US . And lived the rest of his and his wife's life in Humboldt county afterwards. Most of the descendents live in different parts of California still. Unfortunately, they kept "hush" about the languages they spoke, (Romansch, Italien,-grandmother, and some Latin) because of the war. But I am hoping to re-learn my heritage languages.

    • @willremy5142
      @willremy5142 Před rokem +2

      @@jjauger96 I am sure that my great aunt and your great grandmother probably knew each other. My great aunt was probably born there in 1913 or 1914. I know my great uncle was born at the end of 1912 because he was 4 years older than my Nana and I think my great aunt was a year or so younger than him. I don't know what her maiden name was, but it would have been Romansh. She lived until 96 and of sound mind and body up until the end as well. I wish you luck in finding your heritage. I know when my great aunt and uncle went to Switzerland to visit distant relatives in the 1980's they told her that she spoke beautiful Romansch. They said that the language was changing because so much of the youth were watching Italian TV/Movies and listening to Italian music.

  • @davidcufc
    @davidcufc Před 3 lety +11

    I was in a pub in the north of England and I met some Swiss people who were in England to buy sheep. They told me they were Romansch speakers and even taught me a few phrases.

  • @wichardbeenken1173
    @wichardbeenken1173 Před 3 lety +59

    There is another root of Romansh: The Raetic. Nobody really knows what kind of people they were and even if their language was Indoeuropen or not. They are mentioned by the Romans as living in and around the Alps. Some words in Romansh as well as many names of places and rivers are of this origin.

    • @niklask8753
      @niklask8753 Před 3 lety +5

      they probably were of etruscan origin

    • @TheRojo387
      @TheRojo387 Před rokem +1

      The last language you expect to be Swiss.

    • @lucatampellini9734
      @lucatampellini9734 Před rokem +3

      I believe that they had a huge influence in Roman culture, in fact the RAETORIC, an school of speaking studied and used by many senators and public figures of Rome like Cicaero, must have been nothing else than the way of speaking of the Raeti.

    • @gianfrancesco83
      @gianfrancesco83 Před rokem +1

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhaetic

    • @thefirstonefree
      @thefirstonefree Před rokem

      Non-terrestrial beings (in human bodies) and their huge egos - due to their low level of consciousness - they all wanted a language of their own, envy being probably the most important characteristic of their and what caused their collapse.... which is imminent and very, very close!!!!

  • @sharons9872
    @sharons9872 Před 4 lety +33

    Thanks for the video! My father's grandmother was Romansh Swiss and he remembers his great-aunt in Minnesota was able to speak Romansh. It's interesting to know more about the language.

    • @kimwengerhall6303
      @kimwengerhall6303 Před 3 lety +6

      I have Romansh heritage, too - Indiana - North Dakota!

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +7

      Interesting!

    • @texlad04
      @texlad04 Před 2 lety +1

      I am descended from the Weisz family of Central Minnesota. Romansh speaking family.

  • @petersmith1343
    @petersmith1343 Před rokem +2

    Travelling as a child with my parents in the 1950s, we came into a village where the locals only spoke Romansh -- my father tried to communicate in Latin (not very successfully as I recall).

  • @robertdesmaraissullivan1148

    Comme Louisianais-français aux États-Unis, votre émotion en ce qui concerne le déclin de la langue m'a touché. Je n'ai pas de réponse, mais j'aime les langues et les traditions du monde.

  • @techdoc99
    @techdoc99 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for these videos, Julie. What I really appreciate is not just the research you obviously put in, and the time to record and edit these, but also that you appear to travel to some, if not all, of these places to show us the countries as well. That is dedication!

  • @GazilionPT
    @GazilionPT Před 4 lety +25

    Wow! From your explanation I see there are a few phonetic similarities between Romansh and Portuguese (European accent).
    We also "reduce" unstressed vowels, turning an unstressed 'e' into something like a schwa (some describe it as "e caduc", of "fallen e"). (Unstressed 'a' is also reduced, but it does not become a schwa, it become something like the English indefinite article "a".)
    And our "s" can also be pronounced as 's'. 'z', 'sh" and "zh", though on different situations (and with some regional and personal variations).

  • @desertdog8006
    @desertdog8006 Před 3 lety +4

    As an Australian with English as 1st language with father from Gandria(TI) and mother from Tende (F) and speak GE Fr IT, I have travelled Switzerland extensively whenever visiting relatives from the opposite end of the earth ... my favourite canton is GR. I particularly enjoyed staying in Sent, Samnaun and Scuol Tarasp. Listening to RTR.TV has also been fun. Your video was great and I very much would love to hear phrases comparing each of the dialects by native speakers. Hopefully you tube exposure can help educate other Swiss and help preserve this important cultural heritage of CH for future generations. Thank you

  • @dittikke
    @dittikke Před 3 lety +51

    A few years back I was sitting in a German S-Bahn and a whole school class got in, filled up the car. I was completely confused by the language they were speaking. My first guess was Romanian, I know what Romanian sounds like and this had the same kind of rhythm if that makes sense. I got the courage to ask the teacher. Indeed that's the first and unfortunately the last time I heard Romansh.

    • @jodane6186
      @jodane6186 Před rokem +3

      I had a similar experience on a local train in Switzerland. At first sounded German but definitely was not and then I didn't understand a word of it.

    • @cristinabazzell8399
      @cristinabazzell8399 Před rokem +1

      When was it because i think it was our class but I’m not sure people often look at us when we are talking

    • @dittikke
      @dittikke Před rokem

      @@cristinabazzell8399 I can't tell you when exactly, maybe 2013-2014, but it was on the S-Bahn from Leipzig to Halle.

  • @charlesw9875
    @charlesw9875 Před 3 lety +5

    I've heard it spoken by two ladies in a grocery store in Graubunden. Fortunately, I knew already about the existence of Romansch, so I was not surprised to hear it. What did surprise me, though, was how different it sounded to, say, Italian or German. I felt privileged to hear it coming from native speakers.

  • @ziv_tendoora
    @ziv_tendoora Před 3 lety +9

    One other reason the Romash languages became a national language in Switzerland was Italy`s claim over all Italian speaking regions which included the canton of Ticino and parts of Grisons.

  • @chiaranapolitano8912
    @chiaranapolitano8912 Před 3 lety +4

    Sono nata a Lugano, aber mini Muetter chond os Lozärn. J'ai fait mes études (bilingues) à Fribourg, ed uossa imprend a discuorrer Rumantsch (Vallader)! Let's keep our national languages alive! ;)

    • @shopkidadventureclub4140
      @shopkidadventureclub4140 Před 3 lety +1

      Logano is in such a cool part of the world. I climbed in Belinzona on a few trips and had a really good experience

    • @WildWestNeko
      @WildWestNeko Před 3 lety +1

      Da Lügan anca mi, aber mier hei immer Bärndütsch da heime gredet. Et le français je l'ai apris à l'école. And now i live in USA, but my heart never left Switzerland.

  • @SoWhat89
    @SoWhat89 Před 4 lety +4

    I love the fact that you focus on less spoken languages because most of us have heard of them at some point but don't know anything about them really. And your way of presenting is awesome. You give just the right amount of information in all fields with interesting inside looks. Great work!

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex Před 5 lety +91

    I've always been fascinated by the less known romance languages. What about Occitan? Sicilian? 🤔 Is sad that Romansh is dying.
    I love your videos, please upload more often :) subs will come eventually. Keep this good quality 👌 God bless
    🇨🇴

    • @cseblivestreaming8073
      @cseblivestreaming8073 Před 4 lety +10

      As a romansch speaker I’m happy to see people talk about our small and slowly dying language!

    • @GarfieldRex
      @GarfieldRex Před 4 lety +3

      @@cseblivestreaming8073 that sounds a bit pessimistic :( should update us if there's any effort in promoting it 😁

    • @cseblivestreaming8073
      @cseblivestreaming8073 Před 4 lety +11

      Well we do have a television station here and i know the guy at 4:04 personally , I’m in school and we get taught romansch as a subject for the „matura“ (like a diploma)

    • @GarfieldRex
      @GarfieldRex Před 4 lety +1

      @@cseblivestreaming8073 I'm glad to hear that 😌

    • @ThePumpingiron27
      @ThePumpingiron27 Před 4 lety +3

      Sicilian is my great grandparents native tongue!

  • @NovelIdeaIndeed
    @NovelIdeaIndeed Před 4 lety +12

    Thanks so much for the video! I speak French, Italian, Spanish and Romanian, but have always been interested in Romansh. Very clearly expressed!

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 4 lety +1

      Donna Radu thank you so much for your comment! I’m happy you enjoyed the video ☺️

    • @JustMe-ob7lu
      @JustMe-ob7lu Před 3 lety

      Salut. Incearca sa citesti textul de pe Wikipedia pe limba rumantsch. O sa intelegi aproape tot

  • @memekage_
    @memekage_ Před 5 lety

    We waited for so long for you to make a video and it was worth it!

  • @scarletharlot69
    @scarletharlot69 Před rokem

    Of course I loved your video Julie, your videos are a labour of love, I appreciate them.

  • @9imagination
    @9imagination Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank you for a very informative description!

  • @ronniehorton5209
    @ronniehorton5209 Před 2 lety

    Very very interesting! I love all of your videos. It's great the way you do research to relate and connect languages. You are a genuine educator. I always learn a lot. Thank you!

  • @samswords
    @samswords Před 2 lety +3

    My great-grandmother was a Romansh speaker from Poschiavo, in the south of Switzerland. I never knew much about the language since her daughter, my nonna, was born in England and didn't speak the language. Thank you for giving me back part of my family history.

    • @gianfrancesco83
      @gianfrancesco83 Před rokem +1

      I'm from Poschiavo, we speak Pusciavin (or Brüsasc in the low valley), not Romansh 😊 it is officially a Italian dialect and not one of the Romansh variant. Fun fact, my great-grandfather worked for some years in his youth in England before returning and get a family in Switzerland 😊

  • @piccadelly9360
    @piccadelly9360 Před 3 lety +25

    Romansh, it's unbelievable that the language originated in Switzerland where the most speaker of a German-based languages are. It would be nice if the language had a future and it's a shame for every single language that disappears

    • @readisgooddewaterkant7890
      @readisgooddewaterkant7890 Před 3 lety

      Alemanic is a part of the germanic languae family.

    • @readisgooddewaterkant7890
      @readisgooddewaterkant7890 Před 3 lety

      @HJ bangerter thx :)

    • @Mr28d23
      @Mr28d23 Před 3 lety

      @HJ bangerter in Spanish Germany is called Alemania

    • @clemenskeuer7131
      @clemenskeuer7131 Před 3 lety

      @HJ bangerter Alemanic is not a language. All the alemannic dialects like swiss german, swabian or alsatian are west upper german dialects.

    • @clemenskeuer7131
      @clemenskeuer7131 Před 3 lety

      @HJ bangerter Thank you for your long answer. But I would like to correct you in some points. German does not only exist in my head, but it is my native language. Germanen (with one N) are not a tribe, but a collection of tribes like the ones you mentioned. So the saxons, franks, angles, langobards, alemans etc. were all germannic tribes. Hochdeutsch (standard german) is not based on the dialect in Bonn (which is in fact very different from standard german), but on the dialect Martin Luther spoke and translated the bible into. Later the dialect of the area Hannover and Braunschweig was defined by linguists as „standard German“.

  • @lindacozart
    @lindacozart Před rokem

    Thank you for your very informative and beautifully produced video

  • @kirstenmuetzel9191
    @kirstenmuetzel9191 Před 5 lety

    You were great! This was a really interesting video and fun to learn about Romansh! Thank you.

  • @ulrichhauser-ehninger7669

    Thank you for sharing your linguistic knowledge. Having spent half a year in Georgia I stumbled over you while looking for georgian stuff on youtube and learned a lot about the language. And here you are again, me, living in Grisons, watching you while you again talk with great confidence about another interesting language I am close to but am not able to speak.
    Thank you again.

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety

      Wow what a coincidence 😄 and thank you!

  • @yFireZz
    @yFireZz Před 3 lety

    Your videos are amazing! Congrats

  • @cseblivestreaming8073
    @cseblivestreaming8073 Před 4 lety +15

    I personally know the guy at 4:04, I’ve worked with him in romansch too

  • @andredsanches
    @andredsanches Před 4 lety +54

    It really looks like german in a first sight but when I started to read I could understand quite immediatly what was written. As a native speaker of portuguese and also an italian speaker, I can tell it really makes sense as a romance language!
    And congratulations, by the way. You make it easier to understand some technical details about languages without make it annoying (quite opposite, actually). It's a really good job.

    • @maximilianmustermann5763
      @maximilianmustermann5763 Před 3 lety +12

      As a native German speaker, I am always amazed why everybody else says Romansh "sounds like German". It doesn't sound like German at all. It doesn't look like German at all. For me as a German it vaguely sounds like Portuguese.

    • @gerald4013
      @gerald4013 Před 3 lety +2

      @@maximilianmustermann5763 I agree it sounds like Portuguese but I also heard people (maybe a different dialect from what we hear in this video) whose Romansh sounded more like German.
      In the spelling, the only German-looking thing is the "sch"...

    • @mandarinesalon1937
      @mandarinesalon1937 Před 3 lety +1

      @@maximilianmustermann5763 I could undestand that for a native german speaker romanche does not sound german, because for you the difference are obvious, but for a non-native speaker, the similariies are obvious

    • @nobodysbusiness9887
      @nobodysbusiness9887 Před 3 lety

      to me it sounds like italian & french

    • @AyeeeItsCam
      @AyeeeItsCam Před 2 lety

      As a Spanish and Portuguese speaker, I understood absolutely nothing lol

  • @gentuxable
    @gentuxable Před 3 lety

    Underrated channel. Thanks for the work.

  • @michaeldavis9190
    @michaeldavis9190 Před 4 lety +3

    Liked, subscribed, and left a comment. Loved the video.

  • @DarkDennis1961
    @DarkDennis1961 Před 2 lety +2

    I love that you examine such obscure languages

  • @Dennis-di4cx
    @Dennis-di4cx Před 3 lety +3

    I am an American student of the Romance languages who can read severai of the Swiss Romansh idioms (the major divisions are caiied idioms, within which there are local variants known as dialects). Your video is by and large quite accurate, although I would hesitate to say that Romansh is necessarily easy to understand if you know another Romance language, I say this because even speakers at opposite ends of the idiom continuum have difficulties in cimmunicating, During my visit ro Scuol in the east of the Griaons, I heaed a radio program in the western idiom of Surselvan. When I asked the native speaker of the Vallader idiom how much of the program he had understood, he estimated 60%,

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger1342 Před 3 lety +1

    Very interesting and worthwhile video. Many thanks.

  • @CristiNeagu
    @CristiNeagu Před 3 lety +19

    7:07 That passage is exactly what i experienced with overhearing someone talk Romansh. As a Romanian speaker, for me it is a mix of recognizing it as an European language one minute (due to some common word forms as in the first sentence), followed by being convinced that they are speaking Romanian the next (first half of second sentence sounds like slightly slurred Romanian), followed by complete bewilderment as to what language they're actually speaking (second half of second sentence). It's very weird sounding for me. It swings from alien to completely familiar in the span of a few words.

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +5

      Haha very interesting, thanks for sharing 😄😉

    • @recoverhealth2062
      @recoverhealth2062 Před 3 lety +1

      I can read and understand that text until I have to squint at "agir tenter per in uin" I can probably learn Romansh in 1 month.
      I'm English, Spanish, Romanian speaker.

  • @user-ru6gd2cl8s
    @user-ru6gd2cl8s Před 10 měsíci +2

    Thanks, Julie, for your video. Very accurate. I’m an Australian living in one of those “lost” villages … not so lost, actually, only 90 mins, from Zurich. I speak Romontsch-Sursilvan, easy to learn because I already spoke French.
    Romontsch will survive if the Romontsch stop being so “helpful”. My Romontsch is quite serviceable, but at my slightest hesitation or mistake my interlocutors will switch to German, to “help” me. Happens all the time, even after I tell them, for the 100th time, I don’t speak German. Just getting some of them to say “bien di” rather than “Greutzi” as we pass in the street is difficult.
    One small correction I can make to your video - Romontsch does not have “dialects”. That word is seen by some as demeaning. “Idioms” is the word. Thanks.

  • @eduardod9864
    @eduardod9864 Před 3 lety +20

    A little correction here: the ´schwa´ sound is present in the Portuguese (european) and Catalan languages.

    • @chitlitlah
      @chitlitlah Před 3 lety +2

      As well as French and maybe Romanian.

    • @neonsunrise8254
      @neonsunrise8254 Před 3 lety +3

      @@chitlitlah yes, in Romanian we have a special letter which is literally the schwa sound: ă

    • @silvanoragozza656
      @silvanoragozza656 Před 3 lety

      In northern Italy too!

  • @andrefmartin
    @andrefmartin Před 4 lety +1

    "did I like the video?" Yes, I like the quality summary of the language subject you present us about so rare and uncommon languages, and I like you too, Julie. Please issue more videos like these, Thank you.

  • @jhors7777
    @jhors7777 Před 3 lety

    Thank you for posting this helpful and informative video.

  • @heavymellow333
    @heavymellow333 Před 4 lety

    Was always curious about Switzerland's national language, and now I know they have 4. Super interesting information with beautiful background scenery. Great video!

  • @axe3000
    @axe3000 Před 3 lety +2

    I am a native Romansh speaker. Most of the video is actually true and I find the video very well made and appealing. The only corrections I would make is that Switzerland recognised Romansh as a fourth national language in 1938 in order to distance itself from the Italian Irrendenta-movement. Mussolini claimed that Ticino and the Rhaeto-Romanic language area were Italian-speaking and therefore had to belong to Italy. Linguists have found, however, that Rhaeto-Romanic is not in fact an Italian dialect, but a language in its own right.
    Another point is that we do not have 5 dialects, but 5 idioms. The difference is that dialects do not have a written language and grammar or are taught in school, whereas idioms do.
    You are right. The biggest threat to Romansh is really emigration due to a lack of jobs. We are still proud of our language and also cultivate it, but many have to move away.
    Cordials salids dil Grischun! Jeu hai giu grond plascher cun Tia contribuziun! Viva il Romontsch!

  • @esperantoviro
    @esperantoviro Před 4 lety +14

    I lived in Switzerland (Lausanne) for three years. I have been to Graubuenden and heard Romatsch/Romansch/Romanch, Since I also speak fluent French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese (I was born in the US but German is my first and best language), I understand a great deal of this language. If the Swiss let this language die, it is only due to their hedonistic life style based on Calvinism. If I were Swiss from any of the other three languages, I would learn Romansch Grischun and propagate it as THE national language. It is a kind of Swiss Esperanto and would be a fantastic language for all the other Swiss to use for communal discussions. On top of that, being that Romansch Grischun is indeed free from the hegemony of any one Romansch speaking valley, it, like Esperanto, is free to develop new forms for daily life, commerce, education, and, above all, as a marker of Swiss identity - much as Afrikaans is in South Africa.

  • @nobodysbusiness9887
    @nobodysbusiness9887 Před 3 lety

    i truly loved your video. thanks for making it

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you so much for your support!!!

  • @AmplifydeGamer
    @AmplifydeGamer Před 2 lety

    What a great video, good information!

  • @djm2459
    @djm2459 Před rokem +2

    I speak it constantly, and I‘m very proud of it

  • @einer1314
    @einer1314 Před 3 lety

    Great video. It's the first one of yours that I watched. Enjoy your weekend,

  • @frankb1
    @frankb1 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for posting.

  • @BoZhaoengineering
    @BoZhaoengineering Před 3 lety +3

    Romance is a historic country. Its effect is still on the modern days of this area. Yesterday my wife talked about touring in Switzerland and wonder what language people over there speak. I immediately think of four languages spoken in this country like no others. I have ever learnt the Romansh for the first time in your video. Thank you for your video.

  • @ManicEightBall
    @ManicEightBall Před 5 lety

    Great video. I hope you make more.

  • @obsoquasi
    @obsoquasi Před 3 lety +14

    fellow language nerd here. I grew up in Grisons and some of my grandparents spoke Rumantsch and my parents both are able to speak it. Sadly my love for languages only blossomed in my teenage years and so I am only barely able to understand it. Knowing French, Italian and some Spanish, it's actually not that hard to understand at least some of it. An example: "Guarda sin l'ura!" (look at the watch!). The decline will inevitably continue. For now, Rumantsch culture is heavily subsidized by the local government in an effort to keep it alive.

    • @obsoquasi
      @obsoquasi Před 3 lety +5

      There is one notion that I don't think is much talked about. The Rumantsch language had a very big impact on the German dialect of the region and is one reason it is actually quite liked by the rest of Switzerland. In comparison with other Swiss dialects the Bündnerdialekt sounds softer, especially in its plosives and the vowels are more open - maybe similar to Italian.

    • @rickgold4854
      @rickgold4854 Před rokem

      @@obsoquasi Ladin Questione argues that Romansch is a Northern Italian dialect.

  • @MoYalinable
    @MoYalinable Před rokem

    Hey, super interesting and informative. Thanks a lot!

  • @tedbohn4738
    @tedbohn4738 Před 3 lety +1

    I loved the video. Very, very informative. Thank you

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @sabrinasasaki
    @sabrinasasaki Před 3 lety +5

    As a Brazilian living in Switzerland, it sounds like Swiss German spoken by an old Portuguese from the countryside. Some of the phonemes are similar to Portuguese ones that we don't use in Brazil.

  • @luisdestefano6056
    @luisdestefano6056 Před 3 lety +6

    I went skiing to St. Moritz for many years and discovered that I could understand most of spoken Romansh, myself speaking fluent French, Italian and Spanish. Some relief for me since I felt rather awkward when speaking in German, which all the Swiss understood, not so all of their replies, some in dialect, of which I missed a few bits rather frequently. I think Romansch is more threatened by intermarriage and emigration than by internet, television and world globalisation. If hebrew came back to life after 2,000 years I guess there is still hope for a myriad of very nice minor languages!

  • @Parso77
    @Parso77 Před 3 lety +3

    Since you asked, yes I did like the video! I like that you kept it fairly simple. And of course your home is very scenic, which also helps!

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you, so happy you liked it ☺️

  • @vonratt
    @vonratt Před 3 lety +16

    Most languages will start to die when there are no monolingual speakers left over the course of multiple generations. An exception to this rule is if a language is used as a "secret language" among members of an insular religious group, such as Yiddish among Orthodox Jews and Pennsylvania Dutch among the Amish. I assume it would be nearly impossible to be monolingual in Romansch in the modern world, and it is not a "secret language" used by members of a religious sect.

    • @serenissimarespublicavenet3945
      @serenissimarespublicavenet3945 Před 3 lety

      Then what about languages such as Dutch and Norwegian that have relatively few monolingual speakers and will have less and less in the future? Do you think two major European languages such as these could go extinct in a few centuries, if current trends continue?

    • @vonratt
      @vonratt Před 3 lety +1

      @@serenissimarespublicavenet3945 Possibly, but Dutch, Norwegian, Danish and Swedish are all official, national languages. The school system and government are conducted in these languages. People could be monolingual in any of these languages and still be completely functional, as long as they do not travel to another country. Romasch is not a national language, and it would be nearly impossible to function in Switzerland without knowing Italian, German or French.

    • @tosche774
      @tosche774 Před 3 lety +2

      @@vonratt Romansch is a national languageof Switzerland.

    • @ravingcyclist624
      @ravingcyclist624 Před 3 lety

      @@tosche774 Yes! That's what JuLingo said.

  • @josephpaulk2161
    @josephpaulk2161 Před měsícem

    I found your video on Romansh to be absolutely fascinating. Thank-you.

  • @Folkstone57
    @Folkstone57 Před rokem +2

    Very informative & the young lady is very easy to listen to.

  • @gfb1911
    @gfb1911 Před 3 lety +4

    I really enjoyed this video. I had only heard about Romansh in the last 2 or 3 years, and have been curious about it. To answer your question: I hope that Romansh has a future amongst even a small region of Switzerland., but that really is dependent upon the existing native speakers and how much they pass it on. I hope that they continue to and speak it regularly!

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you ☺️ Yeah that's true, it all depends on the native speaker's effort now

  • @ugotmapped
    @ugotmapped Před rokem

    Great info. Liked the language comparison.

  • @curdinprevost
    @curdinprevost Před 3 lety +6

    Romansh is my native language. Thanks you explained it perfectly. I am very touched by the great effort you made with these great video. Grazia fich per tia gronda lavur. Jau sun fich superbi da tai. 😃

  • @MrMinikini
    @MrMinikini Před 4 lety +139

    ayy, very nice video! I'm a native romansh speaker. Tgi cheu tschontscha romontsch?

  • @lotharsawalt8620
    @lotharsawalt8620 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks a lot, your lesson is of great interest for me, because I´m living in Galtür/Tirol, and in former times this part of Tirol also had the "Rumantsch" language, similiar to Ardez. Go on with your lessons, please !!!!

  • @waywardcalifornian3516

    Neat video, dude! I thought the show was going to be about the Roma lingo. What a surprise!

  • @jemvica
    @jemvica Před 3 lety +3

    I'm from Barcelona (Catalonia) and Romansh it's like a Mix between Catalan and Italian. I ♥ it! 😍

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +1

      Interesting! Thanks for sharing :)

    • @williamlabarre4755
      @williamlabarre4755 Před 3 lety

      @@JuLingo You should consider Catalan in the future! I remember my first exposure to it at the Barcelona airport, where multi-lingual signs were 1.(turned out to be Catalan), 2. English, 3. French, 4. German, 5. Italian, 6. Russian, and 7. Spanish. And there was a department store downtown that had 10-language signs.., again, Spanish last ( ;) )

  • @JoelMunizVilla
    @JoelMunizVilla Před rokem +3

    It is surprisingly easy to learn Romansh for any Spanish speaker who has learned French or Italian before. In fact, I am sure that Romansh may be the second foreign language to be learned more easily by a Spanish speaker with average knowledge of another Romance language.

  • @SGalli-ff6nf
    @SGalli-ff6nf Před rokem

    Graet video and presentation...thank you

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 Před 11 měsíci

    thank you very much for making this video!
    also ciao!

  • @H2OgirlTOO
    @H2OgirlTOO Před 3 lety +7

    That was a wonderful video! I had never heard about the Romansh language before today and your video was greatly informative. I think Romansh is a beautiful language that should definitely be preserved and continued to be passed down. I would love to learn it! If only someone could teach me...

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +1

      Happy you enjoyed it! And yes it is a beautiful and interesting language, but not that many teachers of it are left unfortunately

  • @4everStrong1
    @4everStrong1 Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the lesson! Impressive.... I would never guessed that you know this much....

  • @sunving
    @sunving Před 3 lety

    Thank you very much, I never know this at all, very interesting.

  • @valdivia1234567
    @valdivia1234567 Před 3 lety +1

    I found this video fascinating. This is the kind of CZcams I like.

  • @jeanpierrezutter587
    @jeanpierrezutter587 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for your explanations about the Romansh language !!
    Romansh is a living language: there are many singers who sing in Romansh: Pascal Gamboni, Taratuga, Corin Curshellas, La Grisch, Gianni Tschenett (the Justin Bieber of the Engadine), Curdin Nicolay, Liricas Analas, Bibi Vaplan., Giganto, Mattiu Defuns , Rebels and Benetto Vigne: songs with with a great poetry !!

  • @naliteraturaselvagem5835

    I've never heard about this language before. Thanks for the explanation
    I'm from Brazil, and I'd found your channel looking for channels that speak about languages.
    I'm subscribe here.
    Listening you to training my English 😂 your English is so clear...
    Pa pa

  • @guilhermesoares8815
    @guilhermesoares8815 Před 3 lety

    The similarities with the Portuguese phonology are striking; specially concerning the multiple assimilations of the letter , which are identical in the two languages and also the differentiation between stressed and unstressed vowels, which also works the same way in Portuguese (although, of course, with different phonemes).

  • @kimwengerhall6303
    @kimwengerhall6303 Před 3 lety +1

    found I have strong Romansh heritage through 23 and Me and Ancestry - now doing so much research - feels like I am coming home learning and listening - cant think you enough!

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety

      awesome story ☺️ happy you found the video useful!

  • @mj_dolman5122
    @mj_dolman5122 Před rokem +5

    Thank you for talking about Romansh. My grandmother was born in a Romansh speaking village but the family moved to Lucerne when she was young, so I don't think she spoke much Romansh but her father would have spoken it fluently as his first language. Her mother was from a German speaking village in Graubunden, but maybe they spoke Romansh in the past too. I don't understand Romansh at all but the sound and feel of it is strong and emotional, and much more Latin than Germanic. It makes me so mad when people lump the Swiss and Germans together, lol. Nothing against Germans though.

  • @glennshrom5801
    @glennshrom5801 Před 3 lety

    I was fascinated! Thank you! I speak Spanish, Catalan, and English.

  • @stefanbirsan3320
    @stefanbirsan3320 Před 3 lety

    Great video!

  • @reubenconstantine2685
    @reubenconstantine2685 Před 2 lety +3

    I speak French and Italian and while I cannot understand a word of spoken Romansh, it is surprisingly lucid to read! Great video

  • @liliaaaaaaaa
    @liliaaaaaaaa Před 4 lety +1

    Hi Julie, thanks for your video. I found it looking up the Romansh language, doing some research about the languages in Switzerland. I speak Italian, French, Spanish, a bit of German, and also have a little bit of Portuguese and have also studied Latin at school, and studied Arabic, so I'm interested to learn about new languages. I've also learnt different dialects of Italy so it was interesting for me to watch this video. I'm interested in particular in the way in which in the modern era there are various theories about how Latin should be pronounced however my own personal theory is that it's likely that Latin was not necessarily standardised until the modern era and also that there were probably different pronounciations at different times depending on the different cultural periods of invasion, for example invaders acquiring Latin as a language but then speaking it with their own dialect whereas the original native Latin that founded the Romance languages might probably have been different. Learning about the Romansh language therefore is pretty interesting to me. I've listened to a few different videos which showed native speakers and also now I've just watched your video which talks about the history. In reply to your questions at the end about how people feel about it listening to it, whether the language has a future. I can say that I can pretty much understand everything that the Romansh speakers are saying, based on the fact that the vocab and grammar combines a different root system of the different languages that are derivatives that I speak. If the Swiss decided to make this their language as their national language as opposed to German then I would say if I lived in Switzerland, then it would definitely be an easy language for me to pick up with my own various linguistic roots.
    PS FYI this is the other video I watched about Romansh where I can say I understand pretty much everything they are saying. :-)
    czcams.com/video/n7fJBUH1JCE/video.html

  • @texanforeverthompson3645
    @texanforeverthompson3645 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for a very informative presentation. I'm a Texan who did doctoral work in beautiful Switzerland.

    • @JuLingo
      @JuLingo  Před 3 lety +1

      thank you for your comment, I'm happy you liked the video :)

  • @mrroberts9230
    @mrroberts9230 Před 3 lety

    Hey, great job! Your videos are rad.

  • @VioletVoorhees
    @VioletVoorhees Před 5 lety +3

    I hope you’ll find time to make an other interesting video. ❤️ as Italian German I can understand a good amount of written Romanch. My dialect, spoken in a valley in South Tyrol, sounds a little bit like that... not really as Ladin but something in between. It is so funny to listen and to read to my cousins languages! Thanks! Was very educational.
    I hope this language could be saved,
    Maybe teaching it in the schools one or a couple of hours every week! ❤️

    • @dicktatorofabsurdistan8149
      @dicktatorofabsurdistan8149 Před 3 lety

      Btw, in the majority Romansh areas of Grigioni/Grischun it is the language of education during the first four years.

  • @Pablo_Gardens
    @Pablo_Gardens Před 3 lety

    sounds super interesting! I love this video and I'm glad you made a video on this. Maybe send a voice sample to wikitongues or ilovelanguages on youtube to preserve some of the language

  • @veperpaunmapp
    @veperpaunmapp Před 3 lety

    Excellent video :)

  • @alejandroto3094
    @alejandroto3094 Před rokem +2

    Every person should love and preserve their native language.

  • @kartoffeln4879
    @kartoffeln4879 Před 4 lety

    Good video! Very informative! :)

  • @maxinegibson3866
    @maxinegibson3866 Před 3 lety

    Yes, very good video. Thanks

  • @mvnorsel6354
    @mvnorsel6354 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a Romansh speaking friend. It is such a lovely part if the world, especially in winter. In all my travels I've never met another.