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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 5. 05. 2024
- Crystal Palace 4-0 Manchester United in the Premier League. An embarrassing performance, lost for words at this stage.. what are your thoughts? Join Beth, Kev, Ricky and Mordzs for the forum.
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That inter milans back 4 / back 5 has to be absolutely incredible the way they made onana look like he is an actual goalkeeper đđ last seasons neuer with one leg broken is clear of onana
The bookshelf behind Beth literally looks like a giant 4
It looks like a 4, not literally. Actually.
Can we all agree that Mordz talks bollocksâŠ.
They all do every show
@@user-nn8ve6jt2nRicky talks sense to me, youâre right the rest do but my 5 year old daughter knows more about football than mordz
He is unbelievably boring.
Your still listening â@@user-nn8ve6jt2n
â@@user-nn8ve6jt2nThen don't watch you Karen.
Paying 70m for an almost 30 year old Casemiro was crazy. Madrid couldn't believe their luck. Same season Madrid bought Tchouaméni for 100m. United should be doing deals like that! Instead of buying has-beens like Casemiro, Varane, Eriksen etc. It's about scouting and sporting direction.
I feel sorry for anyone employed at United whose job it is to keep us interested / excited. In 60 plus years of following The Reds it has never felt so limp, so hopeless.
Likewise,itsbeen 56 years for me. I still blame the ownership and they're still here.
Our players don't have common game intelligence. Don't even know where to stand for a throw in. Things you learn as a kid. Carragher was spot on, we're the worst coached team in the league.
Beth is still an apologist for Onana, ITS CRAZY!!! Heâs cost us the whole season!
Hojlund has so much potential? Where?!!
Weve got Darth Vader in the background breathing in to the mic for the whole segment
Thought I was the only one hearing thatđđ
Itâs Ricky he needs to take mic away from his nose or something
Vader đđđ
Very off putting
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Beth last week....Onana is probably our player of the season ha ha ha ha ...football education needed
Hojlund is definitely questionable. We keep hearing no service but this guy is struggling with the fundamentals and is getting bullied every game
Beth was so over the top for Onana and it is such an appalling mistake, it is going to take years to live it down.
BTW same for Mark about Sancho.
It shows u she hasnât a clue about football onan is a upgrade heâs going to transform way we play absolute bullđđ
Why is Onana always the one to blame?, the fact Palace walked into the box every time there was no way keepers are saving that. Onana is 2nd in saves in the EPL this seaaon, without him United would be bottom half of the table give the guy some credit
Hilarious đđ€Łâ@@ogitomas7573
We should have got Martinez from Villa, no chance of that now
@@ogitomas7573 in terms of ETH time at UTD Onana is by far the biggest screwup.
No body was good yesterday but in terms of our overall season no-one has had a worse impact than Onana.
Beth now saying we dont have the players to play out from the back and they dont want the ballđđcomical.
It was clear to see last season we cant control the ball and the players cant make simple passes and they dont want the ball. Until that was fixed there no need to change the GK but she was adament we needed a ball playing keeper, itjust madness.
GOOD NEWS!! We still got Arsenal, Newcastle, Brighton and MANCHESTER CITY!
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Is there a chance to finish 10th?
4 easy wins on the way!!......may not be for us though!!âčïžâčïžâčïž
And only Brighton have nothing to play for.
ââAnother Ten Hag masterpiece brought to you by ten hag apologists
Always sounds like you're in a wind tunnel when Ricky is on. Can hear his every breath
Mark tomorrow morning " i had a good sleep and you know what ten hag in " proceeds to blame everything other than the manager.đ
Tbf tonight isn't really on the manager.
@@fredsflintstone3702 our players are shite along with the manager he has no playstyle , miserable in-game management and definitely no game plan he needs to go along with the players
@@athulharidas3677 And do you really think a clearout will happen under a new manager?
Yep itâs getting absolutely boring now we know that he knows he is done
A new manager will give the likes of rashford , mcsauce , awb a chance which isnât the way forward oh and Onana is shite
We need to start discussing Hoijlund. Offers nothing but trying to out muscle defenders. He deffo canât lead the line for us. Back up striker for sure
Utd need to start respecting opponents. They were outclassed by a professional footballing team. A team that deserves more respect
When your defence is depleted, surely you go in to a defensive formation and keep tthings tidy, but they have zero structure. EtH has to go, even Mourinho can play defence
According to Beth, Garnacho can play for Madrid in a couple of years
He can play for a local park team in Madrid
Hahahahaha she has me in bits laughing, she just makes it up as she goes along or she says things sheâs heard other people say. She reads up stats before the game and makes it look like sheâs clued up.
Yea thatâs the level of understanding these guys have about the game. People like and want entertainment not football show.
Is his ceiling really any higher than Januzaj's? He was a decent player whose level was a starting for a mid table La Liga side. What has Garnacho shown to make me think he'll do better than that?
According to Beth Onana is the best keeper to ever live. And we should have signed sabitzer and reguillon on full
Casemiro won five Champions Leagues and three La Liga titles , you mocking him and said Mainoo 18-19 years old kid better than him , THIS IS SICK CULTURE OF CLUB , shame on you
But that's history
At this moment of time, Mainoo is better. Or what games have you been watching?
It's all most of our fans do mate. We boot out the players who actually have a bit of prestige and replace them with wasters and then wonder why we've gotten worse
no one is disrespecting casemiro, casemiro disrespecting himself because this league is too hard in the age he is in. This league drains you too much.
Casemiro is brasilian. They usually fall of a clip shortly after turning 30
Where's all the 'quickest manager to 50 wins!' comments gone now?? We played bad last season but got lucky with other teams playing bad, Rashford playing for new contract, lucky home draws in the cups and bit of new manager bounce!!!
Thatâs all we get at united..decade of absolute dross. We donât deserve this. Nobody is entitled to always win but pride in the badge is just not there.
Told everyone last year was a fluke bunch of lucky wins
Darth Ricky
Was darth Vader on the show tonight?
đđ€Łđ Heavy Breather in the room. đ€Łđđ€Ł
Never mind the 4-0 . Who the hell is breathing into the micđđ
Ricky
@@1991AdamPeck heâs so funny
Got to be Beth
Can't believe Onana still starts over Bayinder. Well done Eric
Why would Elise want to join that rabble
He's counting on getting one of those overpaid contracts.
This club needs an OPEN HEART SURGERY, we didn't listen to Rangnick.
Wouldnât be surprised if our âunsellableâ players like Mainoo or Garna put in a transfer request
To be fair beth said she wanted costa from porto
Both massively overrated. That's the problem with the standards at this club and in this fanbase. Madrid ain't touching Nacho and Mainoo is getting the typical English player hype. Being the best players in this team is nothing special.
@@Gr8VngnzN4esAngr what team do you support then honest answer please
ÂŁ300+ million to build a team that makes no sense. Of those responsible, the only one not yet sacked is ETH.
Back to manager bounce conversation?????!!!! So we dont want a CLEAR OUT???? đ€źđ€źđ€ź
Back to player power wins???
Id rather loose the final and finish 8th and get rid of players and start over. đ€ą
Watch Bruno at the euros when he's playing in a half decent team
He'll destroy them like he's destroyed you
He rarely starts for Portugal tbf đ
@@dustintheturkey.irelandsno6464 that's actually a lie dude lol
Ricky taking credit for Gary neville comments around throw ins ,Gary highlighted the problem 4 or 5 weeks ago
Something sinister is going on at United. Rene mulensteen once said Camavinga wouldn't make uniteds midfield. Something toxic is happening.
Definitely.
I think rashford is at the heart of it and ETH is the perfect manager.
Poor man management, plays favourites, lies to the fans, and questionable game tactics.
Its voduu đ
Evans AWB Eriksen. Diabolical.
Add casemiro and Onana to that list
@JohnDavid-qs9xs casemiro isn't a centre back. Never played there his entire career. Bit unfair to judge him I think.
@@manchesteraholic5859 he checked out weeks ago and need to go Saudi ASAP.. and I've been one of his biggest fans his whole career
â@@manchesteraholic5859he's been atrocious anywhere he's played lately. He's a CDM playing like he has no idea how to defend
@@babatundeolowu I think it's a consequence of having a dysfunctional back 4. When he has lisandro and varane behind him it's a totally different team
Most people would agree that Jose Mourinho is better than ETH. When he couldnt implement his style, was thrown under the bus, and after all his achievements said 2nd place with MU was great success for him it clearly shows the players are at fault
One benefit of keeping Ten Hag would be that even the deadwood would be running for the hills
Ganacho & Antony are selfish. Erickson & casemiro are finished. Onana is a fraud. ETH Broke that dressing room. Man u got away with it last season because of moments in games! Particularly from Rashford with all his goals otherwise last season would of been similar if not worse than this season.
Mordz and Beth are just clueless - why they giving them a platform to talk bollocks
Thaaaaaaaaaaank you! Somebody please educate these guys on football
Because they are robots of TUS
Couldn't agree more
TUS Ai
Beth is a great host. She has some bad takes (who doesn't ?) but she's far from clueless.
Only at the end of the season do they critise Casemiro!! He's been bad all season but if anyone(fans) said anything TUS called us idiot's and trolls! I guess their all a bit slow!đ€đ€đ€
Who has been worse this season, Rashford or Casemiro? Our top scorer and best player from last season.
I advocate removing all but the youngsters in this squad, but the decisions of the manager is just atrocious. We keep defending him and he keeps making incomprehensible choices.
How are these guys getting 140K+ a week to play like that?
They are not. They are making more than 140k.
HOW!?!?
â@@KiloBytegamer rashford is on 350k/week ,casemiro & varane. the same, martial.& Bruno Both on 250k
@@user-km1ey9uf3u How is that even legal?
It's frustrating af, people that work at McDonald's have more passion and work harder then UTD players
I doubt that Man United would have won if Bruno had played today, but what I am certain of is that if United had won, the comment section would be filled with comments saying that United play better without him.
Bayindir should play
Premier league teams who beat UTD, take it as some historic, unforgettable win.
It really isn't that much of an achievement at the moment.
Any team in this league or the Championship is capable of it.
Listening to Ricky do Darth Vader in the microphone for the first 6 minutes before speaking was worse than the 4 nil.
Hows the united Bland onana lovefest getting on.
Another master class from ETH. United need to extend his contract.
Beth you are massively underestimating the goalkeeper position, its the most important position
"moving pictures" - ricky ... đ€Ł bro thinks it's1924 not 2024
Beth
â you know it could be worse ,we could be Chelseaâ
Above you in the league and have daylight đđđđđđđđ
Don't you realize United supporters are the best informed, happiest and sweetest smelling fans in the league?
Why yall here? Manchester United lives in yall heads rent free đ
Cheslea have a style of play and have a manager who has done it in big boys league. We have a manager whose biggest achievement is winning a league title at Ajax, heâs Ajax.
â@@amitsinya Where are his winners medals then?
@@fredsflintstone3702 He literally has a french league medal which is higher ranked than the Dutch league?
You lot also say ETH's greatest achievement is the semi finals of the CL, well Poch is the guy who knocked him out of it lol.
ETH vs Poch is a mid-off but Poch has won stuff now.
I have always felt that players like Casemiro get away with being in teams where they aren't needed to put in a great 90 minute performance. He needed to commit some fouls and get the ball to Modric and Kroos. It's not to say that he wasn't a good player, but he was never going to come to United and push this team to new heights. That's not what he is or has ever been.
Cant believe Beth and the rest of the panel didnt catch the guy's name.... "jack mehoff".
every team we play against look better than us and better organized Ten Hag has to go
Even if Zidane were to play the same team against Crystal Palace, we will still be beaten.
Even tho we wouldnât but okay
Onana was simply wonderful !!!!!!!!!!
Oh nana oh na na đ
I'm getting to old for this ! ( Hey Kev , Vanessa says hi . )
Hi how are you Vanessa
and ppl think we're better without Bruno... actually insane
Bruno has carried this team
Carried it where exactly?
@@isrlnto most losses in United premier league history he missed one loss đ
Yeah man its not like weâve been battered when Bruno playsđđđđ
We wouldâve lost 4-0 with him playing as well
We would have lost still but with much more moaning on the pitch
Did he carry us during the other 12 losses in the league? What about during our worst ever CL run in the clubs history?
Bruno is not the guy, but mount made him look amazing... The whole team needs clearing like Arsenal.
Heâs already bought a whole team!
Man Utd have been getting away with it all season, your luck ran out on this one.
Thereâs a total lack of actual tactical analysis on this channel and it shows in their takes as well. It explains how theyâre all Ten Hag in, just a complete lack of understanding of football. Itâs hilarious though long may it continue đđ
These players are a disgrace but the Manager picks them, all out
Ok. Give opinion who to pick
At this point anyone eth out!
So who'd get picked from the players available?
Young players like Mainoo need guidance from real experienced, good players. Instead he has Fernandes who's utterly horrendous and doesn't understand the basics of pressing. Everything Ricky's saying @ 6:21 Mainoo has picked up from Fernandes. Bad habits pass among youth players like a plague
had the best defence last season and went ahead and disassembled it . should have built on that.
Onana is a rubbish keeper - there are better keepers than him playing in the National League
Beth, pls stop talking about Sancho.đĄđĄđĄ
It should be a crime to play like that
Conte is a good option to think about
And here I am, in Malaga, trying to enjoy my holiday đąđąđą. It seems that there is a game between the manager and the players, the players don't seem to care or fight, the manager is sending the worse team on the pitch.
It had to be tactical for Casemiro to be going in the midfield.
What is this manager still doing here?
U heard what he said "All eras must come to an end"đ€Šââïž
Heâs here to take all the blame for the players and ownership obviously lol
First game without our Captain and we looked absolutely terrible' we looked so sloppy' didnt look like a prem league team' just very bad for us in general also why was it always Eriksen taking the free kick when we should of been Hojland
You can hear someone breathing on this. Really off-putting. I think it's Ricky, bless him đ
I dread every game đą
Mark, according to Grok:
âSince Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement in 2013, Manchester United has had a total of eight different managers. These managers include David Moyes, Ryan Giggs (as a caretaker), Louis van Gaal, Jose Mourinho, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Michael Carrick (as a caretaker), Ralf Rangnick, and the current manager, Erik ten Hag. Additionally, Thomas Tuchel was recently announced as the new manager, but he was not included in the original list as he has just been appointed.â
I'm sick to death hearing "image Bruno playing for a top team". He plays for this crap Man Utd team but not a top team for a clear and obvious reason: HE IS A CRAP PLAYER! No top team would want to have him in the team! Simple as
They should listen more to Ricky. Heâs seen top players throughout the years at United while the younger ones delude themselves that Bruno is work class with made up stats like chances created
With the exception of maybe the Sheffield United keeper, Iâm struggling to find another prem GK who Iâd drop for Onana
Ricky âKev, I am your fatherâ
We had the perfect defense. We even had the Golden Glove. However, some thought our legend Golden Glove was not good enough. Just hope they are happy now....
Get Ole and Keano in as a interim-managers the rest of the season đ
Some of these players wouldnât survive until the end of the season with keano in that dressing room and I mean literally
If we truly believe that these players are terrible and have no mental strength, what makes us think that they will be organised when the manager tries to make them do that. We're trying to separate the players mentality and actual tactics, which is a shocking analysis to me. Tactics won't work when players aren't trying to do it
Itâs either we think Ten Hag is bad and we have good players or we think Ten Hag is trying his best with awful players. Through years of support and torment, I know itâs the latter. All these managers canât be the issue, doing well everywhere else and looking lost when they come to United. Itâs the culture and these players
The back line absolutely is an issue. They set the foundation.
The midfield is shite also.
If every manager fails at your club, isn't that manager fault or the club
It's the style of ownership that has destroyed the club.
Both
Everything is wrong with the club we love. The manager is just always used as a short term scapegoat
@@swiftyyy870 Dont be silly those were top coaches
Players know theyâre leaving I called it last week theyâll down tools for rest of season
Think youâre right. They were told they will have to fight for their future at the club and lots of them are tired from fighting all season..itâs been hard on them I do have a small bit of sympathy we as a club have been under fire from every corner of the media all season which a good bit of it has been warranted but the pressure is incredibly high constant failures and frustration amongst team mates.
After watching âtr3ble winnersâ on Netflix Iâm convinced our âstarâ players have no grit and have checked out, they have no motivation or pride for the shirt they wear. It also seems ETH canât motivate his players which is a problem, watching tr3ble winners I wanted to run through a wall for Pep the way he hyped everyone up. Thereâs no accountability in this club whatsoever.
Ten hag masterclass
All the utd supporters your pannel included were going mad because of what Jamie CARRAGHER has been saying about cassamerio well i think that he's made you all eat your words
Carragher said that last season. Last season Casemiro was brilliant.
ETH is out soon!!! If Jose can get the sack for doing more with less ETH can get the sack!!
The weirdest thing is it looked like it was raining on TV. All our players soaked and they played like it. It actually wasnt raining. I live in Selhurst.
There's really nothing I can say about this game.... nothing.
It just goes to show how dependent we are on bruno and arguably rashford when he's playing well.
And we still have to face Arsenal, Newcastle and Brighton just for a spot in th europa league....imagine.
And city in the fa cup final... how did we even get to the final?
I know injuries have ruined our season but still we need to do better.... much better especially next season
Imagine hearing rickys laugh at 3am in the morning đ
Ricky thinking that there's a manager available to join Utd in time for the FA Cup Final.đ
Paul Scholes and Michael Owen have opinions worth listening too.
They specifically said Maclaren was a great coach, and knowing what he did with them, they said there is no way Maclaren is involved in coaching United under Ten Haag.
Hopefully Ineos and Ratcliffe are listening.
They need to fire Ten Haag Now, and give Maclaren the interim job for the next 4 games. Otherwise United have 4 heavy defeats coming and the last one, at Wembley, will be very damaging as it will be seen by a massive global TV audience.
No offense to Ten Haag. He will get loads of cash and then probably the Bayern job (Ha)
Ineos MUST Fire Ten Haag Immediately
Rickys favourites of Evans and Eriksen were crap tonight, he has no clue
Ole
@@harrydestaffano565 wtf mclauren u on crack jesus christ
@@djklipznbdyeah itâs not like everyone else was crap too?đđđ channel favourites like ASSmus and Garnacho awful but sure letâs blame it all on evans and eriksen
Funny fanbase
Can we all agree that Beth and Ricky have got no clue
Who's breathing into the mike?
Ricky
Sticky Ricky
Since I read this comment it's all I can hear now đđ
Id prefer amass at lb and AWB at cb instead of Casemiro. We moved the ball well in midfield
Bruno will show Ricky he"s world class at the Euros this summer and shut Ricky up.Because he will be playing in a good team
Big Sam is available
Haven't been to Manchester in a while. Do you guys have big gravy pots there?
How would Liverpool, City, Arsenal be with no back line. Not even second choice players
They would dominate possession
Liverpool will finish third with a back line thats only played about 5 times together this season.