Everything you NEED to know about Ruben Amorim | The Deep Dive
Vložit
- čas přidán 1. 04. 2024
- Everything you NEED to know about Ruben Amorim | The Deep Dive
Chris and Josh are back for another Deep Dive to discuss the new favourite for the Liverpool manager job that will be vacant in the summer. Ruben Amorim - currently at Sporting Lisbon - has become the most likely option to manage The Reds after Xabi Alonso ruled himself out by announcing he will be staying at Bayer Leverkusen beyond this season.
#liverpool #lfc #klopp #amorim
SUBSCRIBE TO OUR LFC STREAMING SERVICE: www.redmenplus.com
JOIN THIS CHANNEL TO GET ACCESS TO PERKS:
/ @theredmentv
BUY OUR MERCH: www.redmenmerch.com/
GET TICKETS TO OUR LIVE SHOWS!
END OF SEASON PARTY (HOTEL ANFIELD): www.skiddle.com/whats-on/Live...
BELFAST: www.ticketmaster.ie/redmen-tv...
DUBLIN: www.ticketmaster.ie/redmen-tv...
LONDON: www.axs.com/uk/events/521499/...
FIND US ON TWITCH: / theredmentv
AWARD WINNING CHANNEL BRINGING YOU LIVERPOOL NEWS, LIVERPOOL TRANSFER NEWS, ANALYSIS OF LIVERPOOL GAMES AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING YOU WANT RELATED TO LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB!
GET IN TOUCH bit.ly/2K8qHDS - Sport
You know your getting old when the new (potential) liverpool manager is younger than you 😂
Cheers, this comment hit me like a brick to the face 😂 I’m officially in the old club 🎉
100% Agreed 😂 YNWA
Older than the current manager by 2 months
I’ve just reached the point where most of our players are younger than me. Very unsettling feeling
Getting old is when life begins :D @@thisismethejad8482
Josh delivers again. He has me loving Amorim like there is no better person in European football , available or not available, that is a better fit for the job! I am sure Edwards would have his stats long ago.
You two have a great chemistry. Really good listen
Thank you kindly!
I like the idea of a more sustainable pressing system rather than the hell for leather system we have which leads to injuries and is difficult to keep up in consecutive seasons.
What a bout Michel the Girona manager?
Excellent comment! 👍
Not really, the pressing is nothing like it used to be
The pressing we have done under Klopp is what has made the footy so enjoyable. I personally don’t want to see it go.
I remember seeing a couple of weeks ago a match up of Alonso and Amorim. Amorim matched our style of football. More than Alonso did, but I wanted Alonso mainly because he already understands the club and the people. Hope he still wins their league. I was fine not getting him, but that for me meant Amorim is the only other manager I'd want. Unless there is so perfect manager for us in the data. I hope its Amorim.
Stutgart manger is the closest thing to klopp according to the data.
I'm loving that Wataruendo t-shirt 😂
Im Portuguese…also a Sporting CP fan…I haven’t seen a better analysis on youtube than this…it’s incredible how well you dissected us 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Great watch lads, appreciate the time it took to compile the data.
As a portuguese it's always exciting when one of our coaches is linked with a big club.......I will say, I have no doubt Amorim is a top manager. But top managers don't work at big clubs all the time......Emery is a top manager didn't work at Arsenal, Conte I'd consider him a top manager too and was sacked at Spurs.
So, I don't know if he will work at Liverpool but It would surprise me A LOT if the team's level dropped dramatically with him in charge. But if it did drop...it doesn't mean he's not a great coach...........it just means Liverpool is a big job....specially following Klopp.
That being said.......the "shoe-in" Alonso is only being evaluated based on what he is doing THIS season. He hasn't won anything yet. He finished 6th in the Bundesliga last season. I think people forget, there's nothing assuring he'd be a perfect replacement for Klopp too.
Were I a Liverpool fan, I'd adjust expectations. A new manager isn't going to come in and win the league VS Pep and Arteta right off the bat.
“Conte I'd consider him a top manager too and was sacked at Spurs”
He won the Premier League in his first season at Chelsea you ballbag.
Well the players that liverpool are of better quality amd would suit amorim system more
Well the players that liverpool are of better quality amd would suit amorim system more
very well said.. We as fans need to be realistic too.. As we see who we are competing against.. I mean Jurgen too lost so many titles to City.. He only won one.. Which is a disrespect to him, football and the league.. Anyone who comes in has to be brave enough to take on a league which is not only competative but also corrupt and unfair..
Alonso did a great fob so far, He turned a Team not far away from Relegation into safe Position in mid tabel, and in the next season He plays that sensationell successful season.
Nobody is talking about Inzaghi because there is absolutely no chance of him coming to Liverpool. Amazing manager, love him, but he's happy in Italy. Amorim is the one, we need to go all out for him.
That's why nobody is taking about Inzaghi he's on nobody's radar
He doesn't talk English
I was screaming for years for an Italian manager who can tactically defend properly, after Jurgen we really need a tactician manager who dont overtrain players and can play with different systems.
@@SelimSezgin-bp8oowhat about Conte or Motta?
@@stephenfisher9451I prefer Motta. Needs more seasons IMO
Great vid, very interesting. Devastated Jurgen is off but quite excited about the prospect Amorim taking his place. I genuinely felt Amorim was a more interesting shout than Alonso from the start because he's amore experienced & proven in relative terms than Xabi. Let's hope we get him as if we don't, someone else big will.
Another great piece by Josh! Echoing my thoughts why personally I am a bigger fan of Amorim than i was with Alonso. Once you deep dive into the underlying numbers and what Amorim has achieved in the last 5 years compared to Alonso, it is very obvious that Amorim is the better fit for the club right now. The transition from Klopp wont be as huge as it might be with Alonso.
What if he can you just don't know just asking cos if everything goes well and we recruit well in the summer you never know
Love this show with Josh 👍 keep it coming
Liked the videos and the shows mates ! Liverpool supporter from Morocco ❤
Just watched Sporting vs Benfica highlights…. damn felt like a Liverpool game… end to end stuff… passion and speed. Felt like a younger Klopp was managing Sporting.
Nunez will benefit so much from his style of play together with Mo Salah both going for the golden boot😂😂
It's been a great season in Portugal. Hopefully a great game tonight
Vamos Sporting
Cracking stuff as always
I am fully sold on Amorim, I believe he is a great fit for Liverpool both with his footballing philosophy and personality, his trust in youth, if we get him or De Zerbi I will be satisfied
Liverpool are fucked if de zerbi is the manager.
You've got to be joking?
No way not De Zerbi, fella looks like he has had enough in England or maybe Brighton!
Great video lads
Best show on LFC related content on the net full stop. Josh is superb.
I gotta tell you, as a Sporting fan, i spent the last 3 to 4 hours watching the immense ammount of videos that came out on Amorim style this past week and this was BY FAR the best one. You completly nailed your analisis!
Our defensive play is really good but Adan this year has been a nightmare, comeplty usless, having him or nothing at the goal amounts to the same impact. Add to that the loss of Nuno Mendes and Porro and i'd say we havent been in the best defensive shape, especially cause in the Right Back we've played most season with Ricardo Esgaio. Go do some data research on him and you'll see just how bad he is: probably not even good enough for 2nd tier portuguese league. Im honestly surprized by seeeing some of these numbers. Having such numbers while fielding Adan and Esgaio, hence, playing with 9 players instead of 11, is just insane.
Our ofensive play has been godlike this year, but i gotta tell you / warn you: a lot of it comes down to Gyokeres and dont think for a second that Nunes is half the player Gyokeres is. In fact, the only call back to earth i would give Liverpool fans is precisely that! I dont think Nunes is such a good fit for Amorim preciselly because while we do throw a lot of direct balls behind the deffenders, i would argue that the "target man" style of Gyokeres is what has helped us most this season. But that guy is just a cheat code, its not even a fair comparisson: he is good dribler, good on the wing, good with assists, good finisher, good target man, great runs, super strong and surprizingly still has the stamina and quality to make for a very effective high press. So yeah, take that ofensive prowess with a grain of salt, because last year, before gyokeres, we werent doing good at all in offensive play.
Quality show lads brilliant watch
YNWA all.
I am concerned, we seemed to be all saying ANY manager will join Liverpool and in fact it's looking like not many at all are interested.
Alonso was a great shout.
I am worried about who we will end up with.
I'm reading Josh's book just now . Fascinating read. Cheers Mr Williams ,👍
Boss isn't it!
Amorin agent is in talks with liverpool fc this agent has been important to bring Diaz so good luck never give up ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I think a back 3 is the way to unlock the best out of TAA as he can play at wingback and we can build around him. the problem is the squad as presently assembled has a ton of No8's due to playing 433. The 343 doesn't have room for No 8s wh cannot play as a double pivot 6 or a wide forward/No10. I fear for Gravenberch and Bobby Clark who wont get much game time with this system
It’s always the case though that new manager brings new systems and players. Szobo will look a better player in a 10 than an 8, same for Elliot and Mo at this stage of his career.
I'll have to correct you there. At Sporting Pedro Gonçalves on paper plays on the wing, but he has a very "8" like behaviour, you could say we play assymetrical football in that regard, because on the right we have Edwards / Trincão wich are pure wingers and on the left we have Pote (Pedro Gonçalves) who likes play more central and create chances instead of making runs. It may seem kinda strange but i find it to be a kind of "secret" weapon that no one is really prepared to play against. He just likes to cut back and help in midfield duties a lot of times, either on ofense or defense, he is that little annoying guy that is always between your defense and midfield just making a mess of it, super underated player imo. So yeah i dont think Amorim would just dismiss those 8s like you're saying, in fact, i would find it surprizing if he played salah, nunes and jota at the same time because they have too similar characteristics.
@@greentuga691 I think we are saying the same thing. In that front 3 he likes to have 1 of the 2 behind the central striker having 8/10 characteristics ie Goncalves, Szobo, Elliott , maybe Jones. On other side he likes a wide forward like an Edwards or a Salah Jota type. But one of the 2 has to be an output merchant. Idk if Diaz can be a wing back. Gakpo possibly can be on left side of the front 3…Idk..will be interesting to find out how he uses the players for his system. Fact is that squad was built to play 433.
Nintendo gonna sue Chris 😂
I think it's fair to compare him to Villas-Boas, which failed in the Premier League, but Amorim has a lot of more experience and a big career as a player, having played at Benfica and under the legendary Jorge Jesus, which provided unvaluable experience. Outside the pitch, he's by far the best communicator in Portugal since Mourinho. Extremely inteligent in dealing with the press, and the players like him a lot as well. He's very focused on signing the very best players for his style. He "forced" Sporting to spend 40M€ in only two players, which was a massive jump for the club, but worked out brilliantly (Gyokeres). He's not fully ready, but is a solid bet and wouldn't be shocking if he ends up winning more PL trophies than Klopp have.
I will cry when Klopp leaves ( yes thats right), but I really really hope we get Amorim.
Interesting about the mid block approach. Sacchi used to do that for Milan if he felt a high press wasnt necessary. I think Klopp spoke of trying to do something similar in pre-season although i think maybe his natural instinct to go all out has maybe changed that.
This sounds great, but if he wants to come to Liverpool, does he want and have the ambition for Liverpool ? Do his family want to move to Liverpool ? All this has to be considered, i think if he decides to be Liverpool manager, he will be very successful. YnwA.
This is a stats show. Not a family gossip column.
@saintseraph so there is rules to what I can put in a comment ? I enjoyed the 'stats' show, and wanted to add something else, you could call the stats police, 😀. I understand what you mean though.
Great show as always gentleman, I would'e liked to hear a little more about his negatives aswell...for a more balanced deep dive. YNWA
This is extremely promising. He seems to have the personality as well. This current Liverpool squad is so versatile so I can’t see any major issues formation and system wise. Get it done. The only issue is if we don’t get him then we are categorically rogered.
i loved the break down on Adan, he is for sure our weakest link. If you go look at sporting now, Amorim recently has been starting the youngster Isreal in goal and we went 3/3 agaisnt benfica and are now 4 points clear with a game behind.
great team u 2, still the best on youtube
Lucho Diaz and him share the same agent
Some these types of videos from red men, leave me wanting. They're never quite as succinct enough or structured enough. Sometimes just feels like conversation
Xabi's Leverkuson aren't a short passing predictable team they have the most line breaking passes for any team in Europe this season.
With the manager change, does it also make sense to replace salah, to not make the team dependant on a player who's got on or two seasons left at the top? Players i think would be good under amorim: Onana, Inacio, Robinson, Nico Williams.
Starts at 1:00
What service or website or api do you use to get your raw data from?
FBref.com
He does a good impression of Mo, it must be said
Sources on Merseyside say the reports are "wholly inaccurate", adding that the club are undertaking a thorough process around a number of candidates. They stress that a preferred candidate has not been identified.
He will be the next big manager out of Portugal after morinio. If he bees anything like he's sucsess then good times r coming even more ladz
I've been using Amorim since the start of fif23 career mode for Liverpool
Well that's me sold
@jameshansing5396 don't thank me its what I do
I won't ;)@@jrothweldo7
He'd love it do his job with better players
@AntAnt-mr7lc he may want a new challenge new experience he's been in Portugal for a while now it'd u to liverpool to get him to want the job
@@AntAnt-mr7lcHe won 1 PL and possibly a 2nd in May 😝 but he's won plenty of other very important titles 😉
Does xg include offsides? Where a linesman doesnt flag but var would rule out the goal but tge striker doesnt score so we dont know
as Amorim plays a 3-4-3, would you consider playing Diaz as an attacking wing back? he tracks back deep already as a winger, but if we had a back 3 behind him with endo in the cenre.. diaz as a high laying wingback, jota-nunez-salah infront and trent/bradley on the right... wow.
Looks very weak defensively.
@@musayibghani3986 we will have more defensive cover than we do now, Amorim's defensive numbers are amazing.
@@AaronPushesWood It's a different league with different personnel. Diaz a wing back I dunno about that one.
If I close my eyes when Josh is speaking, I actually hear Stevie 😀
Decent stats when the team is doing well and are currently in line to win the league this season but surely that's expected no? Lets see some stats when their having a more average season, for example last season when Sporting fell out of the top three and failed to win a single trophy
How can he be expected to win the league when they didn't win for 19 years? Think before you type
I think he's perfect man. He is the only other manager beside Xabi I would be happy with. There really isnt anyone else available.
Hansi Flick and Conte don't have jobs at the moment and Nagelsmann is supposed to be leaving after the Euro's
I have No Idea how good the portugese Football League is, but the League must be very good. I take into Account that Jürgen Klopp was enjoying watching Football in Portugal at the time Liverpool was looking for the successor of Brendan Rogers
Can we get this guy and Diomande as well?
Youre more likely to get Inácio alongside Amorim
I want his 3 4 3 diamond 🔥
Pause
@@geekylove3603 💀🤣
Ahhaha
My prioritised list was 1. Xabi Alonso 2. Ruben Amorim 3. convince Jürgen to change his mind 4. Zinedine Zidane
5.Pep Lijnders or someone else internally on a temporary basis. ...........................................................................
6. don't really care. No one would be satisfying if we are this far down. I'd expect a big drop-off.
This is the greatest show in Liverpool fan entertainment.
Good of you to say 😂
1:05 start
Amorim then De Zerbi, I’d be very worried if it’s not one of them.
"Kon-kal-ves" It's pronounced "Kon-sal-ves" the 'ç' has an 's' sound.
Also, the point about losing key players is valid, but so is the fact that benfica and Porto have lost key players also. Nunez, Diaz, Enzo Fernandez, Grimaldo..etc
The teams in the premier league are better than Portugal so how can you compare shots faced as a metric, would be more interesting to see the stats vs European opposition
If he'd have done this in a better league he'd be perfect
Would we take tuchel? I'm not sure I would. He's a quality manager but his brand of football is not great and he seems like a fella that exists for conflict, mainly with owners
I'd highlight the fact that there are 4 Portugese teams in the top 20 (referring to the 'Europe's Best Defence' slide - Shots Faced). And something you could potentially take from this is that the attacking ability of the majority of the teams in that league is shite. Thus you have Braga, Sporting, Benfica and Porto all featuring in that table. I'd say the relative low quality of that league makes Sporting out to be more superior than they are.
You didn't understand the numbers
@@Frpar123 Explain then...
@@stuarthilton6730The video does it for me. Don't be lazy
OK pal.
I think that Bayern coming out as Europe's best coached team just illustrates how you can make statistics prove anything you want. It is literally a demonstration of how to waste hours to produce absolutely useless data.
As long as he isn’t as boring as Arteta and Guardiola I’ll be happy
So you wouldn't want pep.....?
feels like a rodgers type manager for FSG. Money talks and Xabi would have had a price
Amorim wont be free will likely cost itleast £10m to get him he has a contract with Sporting until 2026
Hopefully bring a few young kids aswell with him.
Some sporty youngsters coming thru there.
10:00
You guys can show all these figures as much as you want. Every League is DIFFERENT with players, intensity and Officials. Sporting doesn't compete with City, Arsenal, Man U, Aston Villa, Spurs and Chelsea etc
Managing Liverpool & PL is a different ball game- no matter what he's done at Sporting!
Pep Linders. Xavi from Barcelona or Big Ange for me
None of those will ever happen
Not Xavi or Ange
a LOT of goals conceded were because of the goalkeeper really thats why the xG is like that
I feel Amorim will fancy coming here. Don't see why he wouldn't. Where else would he go? A mid table prem club?
why would another top club want him if we do?
@jameshansing5396 Why wouldn't another top team want him if we do? Look at what's being reported about Barcelona now wanting him. Liverpool are one of the best run clubs in the UK and Europe so it's expected other clubs would be interested in a manager, a coach, or player we may be interested in.
Barcelona were already chasing him while we were fixated on Alonso.
@@melv5816 that was my point. I was replying to the guy saying “where else would he go?” 🤦🏻♂️
I forgot about Barca being open to be fair. They'll be tough competition, just got to hope our structure and being in the Premier League gives us the advantage. Im
He has Andre Villa Boas written all over him.
It’s going to be painful.
Why do you say that? 🤔
3:51 Hate to be the bearer of bad news Chris, but he's always gonna be younger than you
What have I just watched 😂
Bit disappointed with all this. Portugal isn't a great league and Amorim is doing well. Xabi is doing PHENOMENALLY in a better league. Wish JK could have stayed 1 more year then Xabi took over.
I feel like this Xabi to LFC was all a big pr stunt orchestrated by FSG to placate the fans and wasn't going to happen.
Sorry this is not it. Keep looking for a better thumbnail
God damn - the graph @12:29 is so confusing. Why would you switch the axis like that? Makes it seem like they're conceding the most shots. Just show them to be in the bottom left near the origin.
Thought I was the only one that felt this way ddnt wna seem pedantic
Sorry but those graphics (and xG stats), comparing Sporting to the PL and BL teams, are just pointless. That is the Portuguese league - there are only 4 teams worth the name (and note how Porto and Benfica are also both very high in your graphs) so comparing them to the PL (or BL) is ridiculous. You want to know how weak? Sporting, in the league, have scored 8 goals twice this season, 6 once and 5 three times. Continued emphasis during this video on how good defensively they are is like us playing in the 2nd Division and using those stats !
I'm far from convinced Amorim is the right manager for us. He has a poor record in Europe, which is certainly a better barometer. He has no experience outside Portugal, has not managed any top team or top players, he plays with an inflexible 3 at the back (meaning a lot of change for our players if he's appointed). He would be a wild gamble.
Inzaghi doesn't speak ANY English and has already said he's staying at Inter. Maybe do a deep dive on Emery as he ticks a LOT of boxes.
I don’t know him, and no one here. Why you should think he’s the best solution for us?
Every one is so gullible. Alonso is coming to Liverpool. They needed to get the press off his back as he needs to concentrate on Bayers challenge this sesason and not be harrassed at every press conferance. He told everyone at the beginning that he would only decide once the season is over and that he would not say anything out of respect for his current job and will see at the end of the season, but NOBODY listens. They keep harrassing him. So he made a statement that does not disrespect his current job. Thats called integrity and respect. Something the press don't have.
Err, no, thinking Alonso could do something like this is, is disrespectful and insulting to him, Leverkusen, and Liverpool. Our club does not work like this. 😕
@@melv5816 You mean being respectful to his current employer? Having integrity and a backbone? Do you really think the clubs are not aware of this? lol You're just like the press. Once Bayer plays their last game you will get the news. Any news before is just press speculation.
All this does is highlight how good arsenal are! Fully fit squad but for timber.. where as us and city have injuries.. I fancy arsenal for the league
Cant judge him untill hes mananged in the premier league. So much more difficult. I definitely go for Postecoglou.
Had he managed in the Premier league before going to Spurs? I don't trust fat managers
Hell no. Don't like that man after his cowardly comments over the officiating after that Spurs match. 🤮
Naglesmann ?
He's my choice too
Stop talking about this guy.....i am prefer suttgart manager sebastian hoeness to liverpool next manager
Well latest rumour is Barca are making their move for him,knowing how Liverpool work, it will probably be none of aforementioned list of candidates?
Can he speak English?
Yes he can actually!
Yes mate, he can speak English 👍
No, but he can do a great pink elephant impression.
Yeah just pop his name and English in CZcams. It’s pretty good so it wouldn’t be a worry for me.
Think language is why Inzaghi and Motta aren’t being considered.
Was gonna to ask this 😂 beat me to it.
He’s done well in a dog egg league, so did Gerrard. I’m not convinced on this fella.
Portugal is not Scotland.
Who else do you suggest then lol.
@@atikurrahman9304 I’m not sure. Is your mother available?
@@danielyerbmea mam joke seriously
@@grlfcgombeenhunter2897 yeah, you seem like someone who knows what their Dad tastes like?
Why not an english manager?
Yup
Name a good one
Steve Gerard.
@@felrobertohe’s scouse 😂
coz he's sh*t?
@@felroberto
He’s been tapped up for Barcelona for months once Xavi announced his departure. I don’t know why Redmen even bothered doing a deep dive into it. I don’t think we will get him, mind you I’m speculating just like everyone else. We’ll have to wait to see..
Barcelona don’t have 15-20m to spend on a coach , they don’t have the budget to buy players, only taking players on loan , and also our future project is better than barcelona , the appoint of benfica technical director will have an knock on effect on Amorim appoint and also Amorim shares the same agency with Diaz . Moreover, some contacts have been made and it was positive so , and adding to this Barcelona are trying to convince Xavi to stay so
How are Barcelona gonna buy out his contract? Lol
@@Caninemuffin766 they won’t 😂 they don’t have money for even the wages 🥲 even when striking a loan they asked players to reduce their wages
@@matthewpolydor6094 correct, they are strapped/breached their compliance limits in Spain. But you know Barca, they’ll find some way. I’m actually not sure whether they can meet Sportings buy out clause, but I’m sure they’ll be some inventive accounting amortisation technique within La Liga rules. I genuinely thought Barca would be in stronger position. Good if they are not. But, will have to wait and see what happens.
@@Darkknight21789 if they want Xavi to stay then Amorim is not their target and also Deco has denied rumors of Amorim coming, i think Liverpool have the upper hand and know what they are doing behind the scenes .
Im a Liverpool fan. This is going to crash and burn! He won’t attract great players and Liverpool will need great players to keep competing with City, players will probably leave soon rather than later. I just hope we don’t end up between 7th and 11th again.. 😢
Some supporter you are
Lol a man that was not spoken about, and Liverpool got shafted by one of their own, Alonso, now you folks are making out he is the second coming tactical master. Portuguese league is farmers league FFS
It’s better than the Dutch league lmfwao.
Shafted?
He was spoken about plenty. But you probably have your head too far up your ass to pay attention.
What in the hell is this dumb comment??? 🧐
Amorim if hired will prove to be a huge failure. De zerbi the best option now.
What kind of crystal ball you got?
What has DiZerbi won again?
@@thefluxparadox whats ur guess?
@@rahimn9246 better as ask klopp if de zerbi is a good replacement.
@@rahimn9246 yeah ask that to klopp.