Why There is a Giant Floating Prison In New York City

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Komentáře • 673

  • @salvatoremaglione6398
    @salvatoremaglione6398 Před 2 lety +1964

    Planes. They are boats if the sea was dry.

    • @propergander8509
      @propergander8509 Před 2 lety +70

      Don’t tell Wendover Production

    • @ElValuador
      @ElValuador Před 2 lety +9

      Boats wouldn’t float if the sea was dry.

    • @endig4501
      @endig4501 Před 2 lety +5

      @@ElValuador Taking the shotgun approach to low-effort trolling, huh? Try harder.

    • @ElValuador
      @ElValuador Před 2 lety +9

      @@endig4501 Space shuttles. They are planes but in space.

    • @baksatibi
      @baksatibi Před 2 lety +3

      Seaplanes. They are like upside-down submarines if the sea was dry.

  • @AlexOfTheWoods99
    @AlexOfTheWoods99 Před 2 lety +343

    Arguably Australia was just one big prison boat

    • @Pablo_the_hedgehog
      @Pablo_the_hedgehog Před 2 lety +3

      Lol

    • @SimokVI
      @SimokVI Před 2 lety +31

      Sadly, a vote has yet to be passed to close it down...

    • @notfiction9241
      @notfiction9241 Před 2 lety +16

      It would be, but everyone knows that Australia doesn’t exist.

    • @ElValuador
      @ElValuador Před 2 lety +7

      @@Stevie-J A tyrannical island full of scared sheep.

    • @frigginjerk
      @frigginjerk Před 2 lety +5

      It's only arguable because Australia isn't actually real.

  • @jacksonhelgevold6073
    @jacksonhelgevold6073 Před 2 lety +590

    The line graph “Average Daily Jail Population in NYC” at time stamp (3:31/5:51) has an error in the x axis. It starts with the year “1888” and not “1988” as it should.
    You’re welcome :)

    • @cowboyhank456
      @cowboyhank456 Před 2 lety +14

      I thought it was just a joke

    • @Bremend
      @Bremend Před 2 lety +24

      Logarithmic scale for the first unit, clearly...

    • @matteovillella1482
      @matteovillella1482 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah: someone else realized too! There should also be a break in the graph I think.

    • @joshuareidsound8985
      @joshuareidsound8985 Před 2 lety +1

      are you sure it should? Is the graph still correct with it reading 1888? Do you know?

    • @CB____
      @CB____ Před 2 lety +5

      @@joshuareidsound8985 In the video he literally says “30 years ago back in the late 80s..” it was meant to read 1988

  • @alexanderklee6357
    @alexanderklee6357 Před 2 lety +179

    0:11 the pictures shows the “diamond princess“ notable for having a gastroenteritis outbreak in 2016 and a Covid-19 outbreak in January 2020. The latter of whom resulted in the ship and all passengers being quarantined for nearly a month.

  • @ronnycook3569
    @ronnycook3569 Před 2 lety +269

    "There's nothing more permanent than a temporary solution" - from ~30 years working in system admin & tech support.
    Temporary solutions tend to be implemented quickly, then renewed indefinitely because it's much less work to just keep the patch-up job running. This explains a great deal about the state of computer software, but I'm sure we can all come up with real-world examples. Waaay too many real-world examples.

    • @User31129
      @User31129 Před 2 lety +3

      Highway paving

    • @ronnycook3569
      @ronnycook3569 Před 2 lety +5

      @@User31129 Yeah, the patching of potholes was the first real-world example that I thought of as well (aside from the prison barge.) But you can find this EVERYWHERE.

    • @EdgyShooter
      @EdgyShooter Před 2 lety +3

      This is why my departments roof flooded. About 30 years ago they were told it could be fixed permanently for x amount or temporary repaired each year for a smaller amount, can you guess which they went for?

    • @ckl9390
      @ckl9390 Před 2 lety +3

      I've heard a reportedly Russian saying that is essentially the same thing.

    • @iconofthicc6086
      @iconofthicc6086 Před 2 lety +2

      CZcams dislikes…

  • @earnestbrown6524
    @earnestbrown6524 Před 2 lety +230

    In the USN if your ship was in the shipyard we had a berthing barge nearby. It was home to all the services that the ship could no longer support. Things like admin, medical, galley and where the Duty section slept. It was not fun.

    • @SPOcepSS
      @SPOcepSS Před 2 lety +3

      On subs even that didn’t matter, still slept onboard for duty

    • @ElValuador
      @ElValuador Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you for your service.

    • @MegaGun2000
      @MegaGun2000 Před 2 lety +1

      Statements like these reaffirm my beliefs that I will never be military potential haha

    • @sophia-helenemeesdetricht1957
      @sophia-helenemeesdetricht1957 Před 2 lety +3

      The berthing barge was generally threadbare, temperatures fluctuated frequently and violently, reefer units rarely worked, and the heads (the bathrooms) were insufficient in basically every respect. And this is coming from someone whose first ship was a warship so old and busted, they couldn't sell it off, so they used it as target practice.

    • @patrickmattin9609
      @patrickmattin9609 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Stevie-J Yeah that's about right, but without the gym, and a little nicer. On the bright side, only had to sleep there once or twice a week.

  • @givrally7634
    @givrally7634 Před 2 lety +31

    "Why is this temporary measure still open ?" Because the government has a history of making temporary measures that are actually permanent. Sales tax amirite ?

    • @alexkaplan6581
      @alexkaplan6581 Před 2 lety +5

      Income tax, the patriot act, gun control, violations of habeas corpus, etc.

    • @User31129
      @User31129 Před 2 lety +4

      I would totally have my income tax raised to have the sales tax canceled. Sales tax is charged equally to both the poor and the rich. And the poor spend almost all their income, while the rich dont.

    • @OnlyFlans42
      @OnlyFlans42 Před 2 lety +1

      @@alexkaplan6581 covid regulations...

    • @alexkaplan6581
      @alexkaplan6581 Před 2 lety

      @@User31129 State versus fed. Apples to oranges, unless you live in a regressive shithole like California that double dips.

  • @baliyae
    @baliyae Před 2 lety +200

    I didn’t know there was a prison boat in New York until I saw this video. Thank you for sharing. I learned something new today.

  • @exiledparsons5002
    @exiledparsons5002 Před 2 lety +61

    The Average Daily Jail Population graph has a typo; It says 1888 rather than 1988.

  • @y.s.miller4109
    @y.s.miller4109 Před 2 lety +68

    FYI: Koch, in this instance, rhymes with Scotch.

    • @fyang1429
      @fyang1429 Před 2 lety +1

      Surely a good thing otherwise it would pronounce the same as the last name of the father of modern bacteriology

    • @dannydaw59
      @dannydaw59 Před 2 lety +1

      So it's not pronounced as "Coke" ?

    • @mrmoose6619
      @mrmoose6619 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dannydaw59 Not for the former People's Court Judge and former NYC Mayor

    • @dominiccaragiulo6379
      @dominiccaragiulo6379 Před 2 lety

      I felt really dumb for a second.

    • @danielsavitz5774
      @danielsavitz5774 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dannydaw59 It is for the Koch Brothers, but not for former mayor Ed Koch

  • @andrewgoenner120
    @andrewgoenner120 Před 2 lety +41

    I didn't know if this meant to be a joke but the line graph from 3:29 to 4:04 starts at 1888 and not 1988.

  • @tryxdc
    @tryxdc Před 2 lety +22

    wendover is in tears. you started this video with pretty much the exact opposite of a plane

  • @samiraperi467
    @samiraperi467 Před 2 lety +92

    Ah yes, a temporary measure. Just like car tax was here, back in 1958. Nothing is as permanent as a temporary measure.

    • @NoJusticeNoPeace
      @NoJusticeNoPeace Před 2 lety +9

      Here in Canada we're still paying the "temporary" surcharge on phone service for switching to touch tone from pulse dial.

    • @4kChannel
      @4kChannel Před 2 lety +4

      Nothing is more permanent than a temporary government program Milton Friedman

    • @ssjjshawn
      @ssjjshawn Před 2 lety +2

      Oh yes like other temporary things in the USA like:
      Sales Tax
      The FBI
      The CIA
      The Patriot Act
      Giant Monopolies
      The Military Industrial Complex

  • @roflchopter11
    @roflchopter11 Před 2 lety +18

    Arguably the earth is just one big prison spaceship

    • @YoussefAhmed-jd5zu
      @YoussefAhmed-jd5zu Před 2 lety

      Probably less then 100 people escaped this prison out of a population of 7 billion ,it seems pretty effective.

  • @bigcrowfly
    @bigcrowfly Před 2 lety +81

    Major omission: Left out the real reason why not closed and will never be until an additional prison is built.
    The correction workers union wont let it close and city workers unions control who gets elected to all elected offices in the city.

    • @Sammie1053
      @Sammie1053 Před 2 lety +24

      ugh, fuckin' law enforcement unions ruining NYC once again

    • @FUnzzies1
      @FUnzzies1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Sammie1053 where did the mean police man arrest you?

    • @toahero5925
      @toahero5925 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Sammie1053 Democrats have spent years telling workers that they need to unionize and band together to ensure better treatment.
      Can you really blame NY police for doing what their city and state governments recommended?

    • @Steelerebecca92
      @Steelerebecca92 Před 2 lety +10

      @@toahero5925 do you really think that cop and correctional worker unions are remotely a new thing?

    • @toahero5925
      @toahero5925 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Steelerebecca92 Of course not, but it kinda undermines progressive praise for unionization and workers' rights when they turn around and badmouth police unions for protecting their members.

  • @nathanielcaspari275
    @nathanielcaspari275 Před 2 lety +11

    @3:51 the chart says 1888, I think it's supposed to be 1988.

  • @thecrapadventuresofchesimo420

    If I've learned anything about temporary measures, it's that they're almost invariably permanent, doesn't matter if it's New York or anywhere else with humans.
    The reason is simple: The temporary measure makes the problem a thing to solve later, so other things then take priority (ie finding), then later comes, the cheapest solution is then to extend the temporary measure.

  • @unscenegamers
    @unscenegamers Před 2 lety +6

    3:30 1888 skips to 1990, big gap in a little graph

  • @lnnx3725
    @lnnx3725 Před 2 lety +15

    Half as interesting always makes my day slightly more interesting, thanks Sam

  • @ninjabiatch101
    @ninjabiatch101 Před 2 lety +8

    " Boats, they're like planes for if the sky was wet."
    I also enjoy mushrooms.

  • @lifeguardpanda
    @lifeguardpanda Před 2 lety +9

    As a former Staten islander, I can confirm this is very true but the ferry bathrooms are truly the worse thing in the world

  • @ghimbrilp
    @ghimbrilp Před 2 lety +9

    4:04, graphs labelled wrongly to 1888 instead of 1988 :P

  • @TravisRiver
    @TravisRiver Před 7 měsíci +1

    VCBC closed this month. I volunteered there the last year: it was crowded, open rooms with ~60 beds, and had free windows. In incarcerated folks were largely shipped off to Rikers.

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 Před 2 lety +7

    "HAI's Crime Spree" a.k.a Sam is trying to get on one of those prison planes

  • @tolep
    @tolep Před 2 lety +6

    This is the best Nebula bait I've ever seen.

  • @metallicarchaea1820
    @metallicarchaea1820 Před 2 lety +18

    You can actually see that boat, Riker's Island and even North and South Brother Islands from the NYC Ferry that runs to and from the Bronx Soundview Ferry port on Classon Point. There is also a gated community there.

  • @josephlombardi9726
    @josephlombardi9726 Před 2 lety +4

    Long time viewer , first time caller ... I’m from NYC (SI actually) and I totally approve of this episode on every level. Wendover /HAI keep it gully

  • @kaatwangsnoisebunker775
    @kaatwangsnoisebunker775 Před 2 lety +3

    Just remember Ed Koch rhymes with crotch. Do that and I will forgive you about the graph starting in 1888.

  • @daandanx
    @daandanx Před 2 lety +5

    This sounds like the typical plot to a bad anime

  • @joeryan1153
    @joeryan1153 Před 2 lety +4

    There used to be a prison ship in Belfast Harbour in the 1970's. It was called HMP Maidstone. One night a few inmates dived into the harbour and escaped. It didn't last too much longer after that.

  • @romulusnr
    @romulusnr Před 2 lety +2

    Bain Correctional Center has been in the same place for so long that Google Maps literally has a 3D model of it

  • @jbjba12345
    @jbjba12345 Před 2 lety +3

    the prison graph starting at 3:30 starts with "1888" instead of "1988" by the by

  • @jason_ityk
    @jason_ityk Před 2 lety +3

    You can't wiki Ed Koch and learn that his name is pronounced KOTCH and not COKE?

  • @Elbrasch
    @Elbrasch Před 2 lety +5

    3:50 : seems to start at 1880 ;)

  • @gogglespisano24
    @gogglespisano24 Před 2 lety +5

    His name is pronounced Ko-TCH not Ko-KE like the Koch brothers.

  • @leobarnes4593
    @leobarnes4593 Před 2 lety +5

    4:01 You labelled 1988 as 1888

    • @leobarnes4593
      @leobarnes4593 Před 2 lety

      i will be disliking the video because of this

  • @ArtOfficialKreations
    @ArtOfficialKreations Před 2 lety +8

    Nobody “lives” in the East River, so I guess, technically, that’s correct; but plenty of people who ran afoul of the many decades of NYC mob bosses do, indeed, _rest_ there though..

  • @Realitycheck18
    @Realitycheck18 Před 2 lety +3

    3:31.. I though when Sam said late 80s it was 1980s, but looks like it was late 1880s.. Damn! For over a century Rikers has been super occupied.

  • @kevincronk7981
    @kevincronk7981 Před 2 lety +4

    Wait ryker's island is a real thing? It seemed like such a stupid idea I was sure it was just made up for spiderman, along with the raft.

    • @this51man
      @this51man Před 2 lety

      It's real. Built on landfill with only a bridge to go in or out. Also next to another landfill called LGA airport lol

  • @Uufda651
    @Uufda651 Před 2 lety +5

    Is that an actual show because I'm actually interested

  • @MyGtaboy
    @MyGtaboy Před 2 lety

    YOOOOOO I WILL ABSOLUTELY Wtch that show. So happy you’ve seen the growth and success you have!!

  • @pieal7368
    @pieal7368 Před 2 lety +3

    3:33 I like how the graph starts at 1888

  • @renderproductions1032
    @renderproductions1032 Před 2 lety +1

    5:18 all I have to say is NO. I want that show.

  • @kfair3331
    @kfair3331 Před 2 lety

    Good job on 2 million subs!!!

  • @deadly_golem
    @deadly_golem Před 2 lety +8

    wait... is the crime spree show actually gonna be a thing? was he serious?

  • @jakem6720
    @jakem6720 Před 2 lety +1

    0:10 That's a throwback.

  • @theeutecticpoint
    @theeutecticpoint Před 2 lety +1

    "which was built on the foundation of a landfill"- caught me by surprise, funny

  • @summit-development
    @summit-development Před 2 lety +1

    Congratulations on 2 mil.

  • @atti_tube
    @atti_tube Před 2 lety +1

    3:44 another one for the HAI error record books

  • @yousefashmeh1468
    @yousefashmeh1468 Před 2 lety +3

    Wish you all the best in that spree, Sam💚
    I wish I could watch it but , you know, here in Syria it's somewhat hard to get 15$/year and a reliable internet connection.

  • @ripwednesdayadams
    @ripwednesdayadams Před 2 lety

    This is a nightmare. I had no idea this even existed.

  • @nathanielstanford3115
    @nathanielstanford3115 Před 2 lety +8

    Jail and prison are not the same thing. Ed Koch is pronounced like it's spelled. And prison populations increased from the 60s to the 80s because crime quadrupled.
    Not sure why you compare this to slave ships, and not to the prison ship martyrs which is much more topical for New York.

    • @FUnzzies1
      @FUnzzies1 Před 2 lety +4

      He's a leftist. He doesn't care about facts.

  • @jasperdoyle443
    @jasperdoyle443 Před 2 lety +1

    00:08 The Diamond Princess joke at the beginning 💀💀💀

  • @meh12345HEY
    @meh12345HEY Před 2 lety +17

    "Having mayors that suck" *Shows brand new mayor of NYC*...
    Well, someone isn't happy with the election results. At least he rides the subway instead of being driven across midtown?

    • @4kChannel
      @4kChannel Před 2 lety +2

      The man just got elected

    • @georgewuzheer
      @georgewuzheer Před 2 lety +2

      someone doesn't like cops lmao

    • @meh12345HEY
      @meh12345HEY Před 2 lety

      @@georgewuzheer well, that person certainly isn't Mayor Adams...

  • @Henk14789
    @Henk14789 Před 2 lety +3

    Pretty sure the prison on the boat could easily fit on the parking lot

  • @TXnine7nine
    @TXnine7nine Před 2 lety

    1:12 Carnival has some competition there 😂

  • @tinnagigja3723
    @tinnagigja3723 Před 2 lety

    That stock video prisoner's shoes have some nice hangin' laces there...

  • @bradroberts1462
    @bradroberts1462 Před 2 lety

    Bibby Resolution and Bibby Venture we're initially used to house British soldiers in the Falklands after the Falklands War in 1982

  • @Etaripamai47
    @Etaripamai47 Před 2 lety +5

    Holy crap is that how you pronounce Ed koch's name? I've been pronouncing it kotch like crotch but not.

  • @paigebradbury6746
    @paigebradbury6746 Před 2 lety

    The Stefan SNL reference already made this video 10/10

  • @st3yo980
    @st3yo980 Před 2 lety

    I remember watching them build this when crossing the Huey P Long bridge

  • @flakgun153
    @flakgun153 Před 2 lety +1

    Hunts point is still basically the scariest place in all of NYC

  • @YgramNolles
    @YgramNolles Před 2 lety +2

    Id love to see that show but i dont have a creditcard and neither do my parents:(

  • @shinobiwan3107
    @shinobiwan3107 Před 2 lety

    Will always thumbs up any video that throws shade at Staten Island.

  • @kriss_b
    @kriss_b Před 2 lety

    Love the Stefan reference

  • @wanali4504
    @wanali4504 Před 2 lety

    Congrats HAI on 2mil!

  • @ysquaredyobozo
    @ysquaredyobozo Před 2 lety +2

    Small mistake on your graph at 4:00, the leftmost year is 1888, when i assume its supposed to be 1988, given you said 30 years ago

  • @WhatWeCallDollarsArentMoney

    Suspending the gold standard was supposed to be temporary as well.

  • @Uufda651
    @Uufda651 Před 2 lety +1

    "Really sea sick and also regular sick- and also starved."

  • @andrewdonaghy1248
    @andrewdonaghy1248 Před 2 lety

    This is the one that got be to sign up for nebula

  • @tzkelley
    @tzkelley Před 2 lety

    Good idea. Could probably move it out to sea and use resupply ships.

  • @firstlast446
    @firstlast446 Před 2 lety +2

    Ah the year just 2 before 1990, 1888.

  • @wesleywilson6366
    @wesleywilson6366 Před 2 lety

    I love how the Guinness text is all 10000% gibberish @ 0:35 seconds lol

  • @jeffbenton6183
    @jeffbenton6183 Před 2 lety

    Somehow, there are more planes than getaway cars in the title sequence to Sam's show about committing crimes.

  • @opdjasin
    @opdjasin Před 2 lety +1

    I think the location of the floating prison in the thumbnail is slightly wrong. It was on the other side of Bronx river, literally next to the big island.

  • @bleepbloop7812
    @bleepbloop7812 Před 2 lety +2

    It's Ed Koch, Ko-"ch". He was the Judge on people's court from 97-99 theres videos on CZcams you can reference for pronunciation.... Did I do it? Do I make the Mistakes video at the end of the year? Also,
    The new series looks awesome!

    • @User31129
      @User31129 Před 2 lety

      If someone mispronounces their own name, are they wrong?

  • @Lewh_
    @Lewh_ Před 2 lety

    What a great title sequence!

  • @vicmanthome6605
    @vicmanthome6605 Před rokem

    I work with on the NYC Ferry and the line runs right next to it haha

  • @TheOnlyNoIan
    @TheOnlyNoIan Před 2 lety +1

    that's a weird way to describe LaGuardia

  • @chil.6476
    @chil.6476 Před 2 lety

    That title sequence need more plane shots.

  • @NoJusticeNoPeace
    @NoJusticeNoPeace Před 2 lety +193

    What a lot of people seem to have forgotten is that Giulliani was on his way to prison. He had been using a fleet of buses to shuttle homeless people from shelter to shelter across New York to make them less visible by spreading them out, which also trapped them in homelessness by preventing them from getting jobs, contacting landlords, or connecting with social services. A judge ruled this was a violation of civil rights and ordered Giulliani to stop -- which he completely ignored. A judge had just ruled Giulliani in contempt of court when 9/11 happened and everything was quietly swept under the rug, because the civil rights of a bunch of smelly poor people were much less important than waving a patriotic flag.

    • @ElValuador
      @ElValuador Před 2 lety +17

      Cry more

    • @notfiction9241
      @notfiction9241 Před 2 lety +7

      I see nothing wrong with any of this. Yay flag waving.

    • @fica1137
      @fica1137 Před 2 lety +38

      @@ElValuador Cope

    • @ElValuador
      @ElValuador Před 2 lety +2

      @@fica1137 🥴

    • @NoJusticeNoPeace
      @NoJusticeNoPeace Před 2 lety +15

      @@ElValuador Tribalism is dumb. All it does is show you're incapable of critical thought, and in the absence of the ability to think, you just take Great White Father's views as holy doctrine. It results in ridiculous self-harm from arguments about things like basic medical hygiene during a worldwide pandemic, ecological devastation from climate change, or -- as in this case -- the elimination of civil rights meant to protect _everyone_ from abuse.

  • @offwithhishead2556
    @offwithhishead2556 Před 2 lety

    A few years back the UK Govt. toyed with the idea of buying a floating prison from somewher or other. There was a massive backlash and they dropped it like a hot brick. i wonder if this was the tub?

  • @madamebutterfly851
    @madamebutterfly851 Před 2 lety

    Stephan reference was awesome lol

  • @yaacovdavidowitz4502
    @yaacovdavidowitz4502 Před 2 lety +1

    Btw, Ed Koch’s name is pronounced the way it sounds not Coke, like the rich brothers.
    Also, Hunts Point is still not gentrified

  • @southpineshooligan
    @southpineshooligan Před 2 lety

    1:57
    that's immediately where my brain went when I clicked this video - I was like and the irony

  • @jakerundell
    @jakerundell Před 2 lety

    POV: You just watched "Tick, Tick... Boom" and looked up the prison boat reference.

  • @daandanx
    @daandanx Před 2 lety +1

    Hey, is this that fever dream i had yesterday?

  • @hirosoli
    @hirosoli Před 2 lety

    Loved the Lorem Ipsum in the 'news article'!

    • @ryanclark6402
      @ryanclark6402 Před 2 lety +1

      Was just going to post this. Everyone’s tripping about the graph, but there’s not enough love for the typography. :)

  • @LeveyHere
    @LeveyHere Před 2 lety +1

    Oh this is literally a prison boat? For a moment I thought it was just gonna talk about Rikers Island

  • @eacalvert
    @eacalvert Před 2 lety

    You've done it again!

  • @jwrarmstrong
    @jwrarmstrong Před 2 lety

    Nit picking aside this is a great episode.

  • @michaelnelson2976
    @michaelnelson2976 Před 2 lety

    I do hate the prison system, but I do love that background track...

  • @CardplayerLifestyle
    @CardplayerLifestyle Před 2 lety +3

    Hate to be "that guy", but the former NY mayor's name (Koch) is pronounced like "botch", or "scotch"... definitely not like "Coke" 🙂

  • @cesarsantis5116
    @cesarsantis5116 Před 2 lety

    The chilean prison ship is called La Esmeralda.

  • @MatthewCaban
    @MatthewCaban Před 2 lety

    Coming from SI, that burned! On the plus side, our jail was closed in 2011, and turned into film studio

  • @megawelcherwarrior
    @megawelcherwarrior Před 2 lety

    The Stefon reference!

  • @mrseaweed1000
    @mrseaweed1000 Před 2 lety +1

    We’ll be seeing that graph in the annual mistakes video 😎

  • @AC-im4hi
    @AC-im4hi Před 2 lety +8

    Bro really compared putting people in jail for committing crimes to abducting, torturing and working to death innocent people. I get it was supposed to be a joke but really?

    • @henrymarks2237
      @henrymarks2237 Před 2 lety +2

      It’s a jail, not a prison, so many of the people there have not been convicted for anything.

  • @markrothenbuhler6232
    @markrothenbuhler6232 Před 2 lety +1

    New Jerseyan chiming in here: Mayor Koch rhymes with scotch, not stoke.

  • @easyadventurer
    @easyadventurer Před 2 lety

    “Their all-expenses-paid cruise” omg