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- What If The US Kept The Articles Of Confederation And Never Adopted The Constitution? What Would Become Of These Disunited States Of America, And What Might Take Their Place In The Southern, Capital, And New England States?
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Monsieur Z what if the states were provinces
Monsieur Z what if the US chose to stay with Britain
Welcome back
Dude, you're Knowledge hub and Alternative history hub, aren't you? You have extremely similar voices and video styles. Almost like you change them up a bit so that no one would notice..
Me: "Monsieur Z how many American alternate histories are you going to make?"
Monsieur Z: "Yes."
Labyrinth so basically not enough
I mean, that's kind of the point of his videos...
Normie idiot
It's so odd to think of New England as being the most religious part of America when it's now the least.
Progressivism is a religion.
@@alberain X to doubt
@@alberain A religion that is in no way Progressive.
That's where you are wrong, California is the least religious state, except if you think that Peter Griffin G*y P*rn religion is a real a religion.
@@alberain so is atheism
It's always great working with you, Z.
*sees flags in thumbnail* yes
*sees its by Mr. Z* Yes!
*sees the title* YES!!!
I wonder if greater integration would have been possible between New England, Southern Ontario and the Maritimes, permitting the English speaking Canadians to bypass Quebec. And with France having a strong ally on the continent in the Confederacy, perhaps they'd attempt to resurrect Quebecois nationalism, with Quebec ultimately achieving independence but ceding its territory south of the St. Lawrence River. The failure of the American states to gain at least partial control over that waterway always seemed like a terrible oversight. They could have gained even more economic advantage out of the Great Lakes and Hudson River with just the southern half of the St. Lawrence.
What if the Soviets and Chinese fought during the Sino-Soviet split
And Nixon would’ve had to choose between the two just like in irl. Would’ve been incredible to see the foreign policy changes with places like Vietnam and Cuba afterwards
@Alex Ikhsanov Two armies who don’t care about the wellbeing of any of their soldiers clashing, what could go wrong!
Basically no Mao memes
@@CleverChina Yep, fuck China.
The chinese would win with millions dead. Just the idea of the Soviets having a supply chain strech first over the Urals and THEN over siberia is just laughable.
I love when alternate history channels touch on cultural things like architecture.
Instead of the United States of America (USA), we get a Union of Independent Republics (UIR).
Gears of War reference
I think that leaving Mexico 5 more decades to consolidate, would end up in a very different way. It had already defeatd French troops.
i agree. also, regardless of what could've been going on in the US, napoleonic-war-era mexico was facing enough civil unrest to deny maximilian's sovereignty. since mexico's economic/political relationship w the US and colonial powers shaped much of its development in the 19th century, i'm sure said development would've had more of an affect on the US in this timeline
"dominions of Virginia" why does that sound like a really good post-apocalyptic open-world game
“There’s a fort that needs to be taken. I’ll mark it on your map.”
When Johnny comes marching home again! Hurrah! Hurrah! We'll give him a hearty welcome then
Hi
He saw you in drews vid asswel right?
We are inevitable
Hello
When money comes marchin' home again! Hurrah, hurrah!
What if the Byzantine empire survived?
He made one, but I wouldn't mind seeing a remake
I really should remake that one.
@@MonsieurDean yes please!
We'd technically still be in the Medieval period.
What if Swedes fight their invaders?
What if France and/or Britain recognized the CSA?
@@Wickedonezz
He is a troll, or most likely a troll passing as a right-winger...
@Will DeMarcoBoth sides accuses the neutral British of betrayal and both employed the carrot and the stick.
The Union blockade of the CSA led to what was known as the Lancashire Cotton Famine. There was a drop of 90% in trade with those states and the cotton in warehouses was exhausted.
Up to 60% of the workers were idle and this led to widespread hardship abd this in turn led to pressure from some quarters to overturn the blockade, riots, and the flag of CSA being flown over a number of cotton mills.
As the war went on ; cotton was increasingly sourced from India and Egypt.
There was support for the Union and absolute opposition to slavery from the middle classes and factory and mill workers . Lincoln acknowledged their sacrifice in writing.
Britain also depended on the US for about a quarter of it's supply of wheat and the city had invested heavily in the railroads bring built across the US.
Britons who fought for the Union such as Henry George Hore seems to have been forgotten.
Ww1 comes earlier,there a video about that in his channel.
Its Usa,Russia,Prussia,Greece,Italian States vs Csa,France,Britain,Spain,ottoman and Austro-Hungary
What if N*gga Haters learn to read
Freedom music stops
I love “When Jonny comes marching home” in the background. I love this song
Love johnny comes marching home playing in the background
@Boots Jew no body cares about you mate.
Its a good song.
What if the Teutonic Order survived?
They still exist
@@augustus_lex6126 yah but i mean as their own state
@@trippfields279 technically they did until the 1930s
Worst alternate scenario.
@@littlesylveon8891 yeah cause then the whole world would be the Teutonic order
I love how in most alternative histories Germany in the end would have had better chances than in our world.
They really got the short straw and threw what little chance they had with it, and not just once.
Alternate 1800s: What if the states never united
Alternate 2020: What if the red and blue states offically separated?
I think we kinda forgotten state rights after some many years
@David McDonald but everyone forgets south American countries still had slaves until they ended later on tho.
@David McDonald we ended ours with a civil war because it was always going to end that way. That's what happens when a large portion of your country is completely controlled by a powerful and rich special interest.
@David McDonald Yep, and they are doing well today too. :D
@David McDonald 1. What did I say that is any way related to the Nazis?
2. Where did the word "gentile" come from in this discussion?
3. What examples of "progressive Nazism" can you provide, cause I haven't heard a single one yet.
4. If south seceded, the weren't going to rejoin voluntarily, nor were they going to abolish slavery anytime soon. The South left due to the influence of plantation owners wanting to maintain their dominance over southern society- any abolition was a threat to that. If slavery was ever going to go away, it would've been extremely slow, most likely transforming into a form of racial indentured servitude and Jim Crow, since one of the fears of southern whites was that freed blacks would cause a race war due to either inherent barbarism, retribution, or a combination of the two. They were not going to go free. Why would the South want to rejoin? The societies were so different, especially the upper classes who controlled them, that if peaceful separation happened, they had no reason to get back together.
5. What evidence do you have for these large numbers of anti-white hate crimes?
6. Where in this discussion did I attack white people?
David McDonald You lost me when you said progressives are nazis
I like how every time someone does any form of alternate US history Canada becomes super powerful
I know you assumed the Entente won, but I find it far more likely that it ends as a stalemate or a marginal Central Powers victory, but a victory nonetheless.
Even today no one state is entirely like another
Well...kinda.
He says before getting his McDonald's after shopping at Walmart
@@CivilizedWasteland Chains of restaurants/stores across multiple states ≠ states being exactly alike
@@crisp9929 is there a difference in fatness of the populace in the different states?
It's usually overstated how different states are, they're all pretty similar to one another from a foreign (non-American) perspective, but even within America it's more like different blocks of identical states than the pretty silly idea of "50 unique countries".
Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Nebraska, The Dakotas, could all be one huge state and nothing would really change (outside of the political power of the area), same with many regions of the USA. Michigan, California and Alabama are all pretty distinct from one another in terms of politics, economics, geography, history and demography (while still being clearly American in culture), but Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama are largely interchangeable with little difference besides accent and lines on the map.
An early trip up: the idea of the New England states bringing church and state together, leaving aside the original idea for the states many of the states had different denominations thus causing a major problem for a grouping of church and state. While many think the founding of the states under English rule was for freedom of religion the reverse was true, it was to have "our faith's rights" not others.
I wonder in this alternative history if Vermont could have played politics and remained at least to a degree independent?
The point of the separation was to keep the state out of the church, not to ban faith.
What if the US honored its alliance to France and joined the Napoleonic wars?
I don't see a Young US being much help in the long run, they were in no position to challenge Britain at the time, maybe if they used the opportunity to invade Britain holdings in the Americas and split the European powers attention. Then they might have put some pressure on the coalition.
@@buzter8135meh, they tried during the same period, though not on "side" with Napoleon, the US did fight the war of 1812. They weren't much help
What if alternate history hub was as good as Monsieur Z.
Why is CZcams recommending me this today. CZcams sure has a sick sense of humor
Wednesday is still best day, keep up the great work.👍🏽
🎊Happy New Decade!🎉
Do a timeline where Alexander Dugin's vision of a united Eurasia claiming global victory, is fully realized. You can read all about the scenari in Foundations of Geopolitics, Dugin's book.
I would LOVE to see you tackle this scenario in depth
Great concept, thanks for uploading. Happy New Year to you as well!
Happy New Year!
@@MonsieurDean Thanks you're a great inspiration for my channel.
Last time I was this early AlternateHistoryHub's host hasn't gone through puberty yet
Upstate New York would have gone to New England considering that most of its populace had come from there, but no way in hell would the Lower Hudson, NYC, or Long Island tolerate being lumped in. They would take up with literally anyone else first.
Not today, but back in the day it may have been.
What if the United States was founded on the rejection of all things British following the war of Independence. Rejection of the English language, rejection of protestantism/christianity, rejection of British mercantilism, and had the Norse exploration/coloniztion of Greenland, Markland, Helluland, and Vinland as their foundational mythos.
kinda dumb, the average American still regarded themselves as Anglo Saxon
Without exploration or colonization from any other continent into the Americas, what civilization would have risen to dominance: Aztec, Inca, any of the North America tribes? Could we see a video on this? If there's already one please send link. Thanks, love your vids!
The Aztecs where falling apart when Spain found them. The Incan’s where in a bloody civil war.
I don’t think either could recover quickly enough, ending up like the Ottomans in 1910. There, but no major threat.
Great start to 2020! Speaking of the 20’s, I’ve an idea, maybe what if the Great Depression never happened, this making the roaring 20’s go into the 30’s and onwards?
Ahh.
Well look at how that ended up.
The Decade technically has not started yet, according to the Gregarion Calendar, that 2020s would officially begin in January 1st 2021, but yes, we have had wrought start.. but I am a bit hopeful for the future.
It is amazing how a few changes create a huge difference. The Seiux becoming involved and The Union being created just turn things on its head.
What if Afghanistan
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Angola
Antigua & Deps
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Armenia
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Azerbaijan
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
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Congo {Democratic Rep}
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Kosovo
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Zimbabwe all took turns on your mom
Quick question: what website do you use to make those flags on the thumbnails of your videos?
Can you do a what if Napoleonic Wars ended in stalemate
I have a question
What if the American civil war ended in stalemate?
A stalemate would ultimately be a southern victory as the question was never about the south conquering the north, but the north bringing the south back under it's own order. If the north can't overpower the south, then the confederates win.
@@MonsieurDean ouch
There you go mate. The events mentioned in the following link can inspire the "stalemate" you speak of. Enjoy.
erenow.net/exams/the-civil-war-for-dummies/32.php
Venom Knight
It would count as a Confederate victory as they wanted independence and a stalemate would see most, if not all, of the revolutionaries staying in the CSA and then possibly break apart into smaller nations when slavery is not as big in the world. As an example, Florida and Georgia would take the chance to get independence and then create the American Union which would create a small faction but they would be a guarantee of the greater European Powers, which they chose Prussia due to its recent gains in Europe and vast weapons. They would later join the German-Austrian alliance in WWI.
The USA would use the chance to declare on the now weaker Confederates in about 1910 and start a war. It was a sudden attack which made relations with the rest of the world harder but not as hard if it was the Confederates. At the start of the war the Confederates were pushed back on all fronts and were close to losing their capital in 1911. However in the Defence of Richmond they pushed back the US army and moved their capital to Houston in Texas. What happened during the next few years turned into Trench Warfare and it stopped more attacks into Confederate soil.
During the start of WWI, the Confederacy start losing ground with America starting to cut into Texas, so they join the German-Austrian alliance as they can call in Florida and Georgia. This creates the North Confederate Alliance which are able to create ships that hinder the British and French ability to send in African and Indian forces, forcing them to move by land for a time.
During this time Mexico is still bitter about losing its North American territories and proposes an ultimatum to the USA, let them in the war and take Texas and Louisiana or they join the Confederates. The US declines their offer which makes them join the Confederates. The leaders of the Confederacy would usually decline but Mexico held a lot of manpower when hearing about the Second US Civil War.
It is now the back end of 1914 and the USA is starting to feel the pressure against the Mexicans and the North Confederate Alliance (I’ll just continue to call them Confederates) and decides to enter the war on the Entente side.
Due to the constant skirmishes at sea with Confederate ships, Britain is forced to take a few ships away from the blockade of Germany to deal with them. This allows the German navy to push against the British blockade and are then putting pressure on the ship builders in Britain. This makes the British create smaller and less effective ships called ‘carmines’ to try and halt the Germans from getting close to France.
The US, due to entering the war on the Entente side was able to take out Confederate ships and starts to bomb naval ports which destroys Confederate naval support to the Germans.
The year is 1915 and the US is starting to push back. After losing New Mexico to the Confederates and California to Mexico, they launch an offensive which could make or break the Confederate lines. They launch a naval invasion into Florida, deciding to try and invade their capital of Miami. The offensive proves successful in the first few weeks and then proved to only lead to trench warfare.
In return, the Confederacy and Mexican armies finally come together and decide to break Union trench armies at Pensilvania to get to Washington D.C.
This is known as Operation New Independence and proves to only push the Union army back a little bit. This then makes more soldiers get transferred to protect the capital but this is not exploited with both sides believing it would not result in much change and just have more losses for the Confederates.
It is now August and morale on both sides is weighed low. This leases to the. Floridian general proposing an offensive in Florida to try and make the Union army send more soldiers down there and leave a gap in the line waiting for reserves.
This plan is idealised and soon the Floridian general was in charge of 60,000 troops to take out the 40,000 troops that are entrenched to push the rest of the 10,000 back. This plan worked due to the fact a storm happened on the coast a few months back which destroyed the months worth of ration supplies leaving many hungry in the army.
The plan was put into action and lead to the complete capture of the command post at the Union Floridian Offensive in a few weeks. This lead to 15,000 soldiers changing sides based on the fact the Confederacy had food available at all times.
This made headlines and called the US the Big Wimp and a Tough Shadow. It destroyed morale but the president’s speech made the morale in most troops go up and hold a solid defence. While reserves were sent into France which helped them push back and regain parts of Belgium.
The German Empire was seemingly going to win despite the efforts of the Entente. In 1916 the Battle of Verdun destroyed any chance of a French counterattack in the next months. The French called for aid so the Somme was set up as a battleground for the British and the Americans set up a battlefield in Nancy. The combined attacks were enough to push the Germans back but it cost the Americans on the Home Front as it lead to them being pushed back on the west coast as far as Canada, leading to the Entente going to war with Mexico.
This all lead to the 1916 offensive to help with pushing the Confederates and Mexicans back. This worked as they did not realise Mexican technology was not as advanced.
The Union army was then given a tank so they can recreate their own to use on the battlefield. They ended up not being used as much but it was enough to hold their lines back.
Due to all of this and instability in the government, Mexico split into 2 as a civil war had broken out. This lead Mexico to have to deal with a peace treaty which was very one sided. Mexico did not agree and instead told the rebels they can have independence if they help them in the war. The rebels agree.
It is 1917 and the Russians are once again on their last legs. It is the same with France and the other Entente powers. The Germans knew that if they made an offensive on the east the west could push and vice versa. This lead to the Germans allowing the Ottomans to become their allies and start to push into Africa.
Even with American assistance, many Canadians and British are being used in the American Front which has lead to a slow retreat for the French in their homeland. They realise that with Ottoman involvement it will make it harder to attack the Germans while holding territories in Africa. This almost leads to a peace deal but the public wants to fight in which they do.
It ends up as a stalemate on the American Front but an order is given to try and push into Washington. All Confederate troops are very demoralised so they try to end the war quickly with the Americans and then helping the Mexicans defeat Canada.
All of the reserves are in this attack. It is a do or die. They push and push and push. Washington DC stands on the brink of capture and therefore the end of US involvement. The Confederates take Washington DC due to superiority in numbers. The American ranks were used by the Union a lot in the defence but the American tanks proved to be worthless and would not work as much as it could. The US states capitulate and surrender.
*The Treaty of Washington*
1. Lands such as New Mexico, Arizona and California are given to Mexico
2. War reparations to be paid towards Mexico
3. The Confederacy to get Oklahoma, Missouri and Kansas
4. The Confederacy must get paid war reparations
5. Due to the aid from Germany, New York must be claimed as German lands and renamed to New Hamburg
6. Confederate and Mexican troops are allowed to roam through the USA without permission
*Treaty signed on 4th July 1917*
This treaty had basically lead to the collapse of the American Front for the Entente, retreating to Canada and holding areas there.
This lead to the British signing a peace treaty with the Confederacy and Mexico, however they had to pay heavy war reparations. This lead to the War of the Americas over with a Confederate victory.
Having to fend off the Ottomans and Germans at the same time while trying to stop the Confederates strained the economy of Britain and had to sign a peace with Germany.
*The Treaty of London*
1. Egypt is to be given to the Ottomans
2. All German territories taken by Britain had to be handed back
3. Britain had to sever any alliances it had with other countries
4. Britain had to limit the amount of ships it could have
5. War reparations had to be paid
*Treaty was Signed of August 28th 1917*
The Russians later signed the same treaty with Germany as last time
It is February of 1918 and France has been pushed back to Toulon and Paris had almost fallen. Morale has plummeted and the French Revolution has formed in Brittany. The French surrendered becoming a puppet to Germany and giving up its colonial empire to Germany.
This war had lead to some countries getting less power and most now becoming the new empires of the 20th century. The US slowly dissolved into Iowa, Dakota and Minnesota with the rest gaining independence after the terrible war.
Britain would slowly become the empire it once was as it would be the one to take the newly claimed Mexican territories for itself.
Mexico did not grant the rebels independence and instead fought a gritty war leading to Mexican occupation by the rebels
The Confederacy became isolated and worked on improving the infrastructure of its buildings and stopped the use of slavery. They then changed their name to ‘The Confederate Empire’ and proceeded to try and claim South America as its own which later worked
France was still a puppet of Germany
Germany went on to take over most of Europe and it lead to many revolts but Germany then defeated the Japanese and took their islands.
That is what I think would happen
Monsieur Z we were the good guys fighting the north over state rights
Nice work!
Man it would be so much fun to play this scenario in games like Hoi4
What if Georgism/Geolibertarianism succeeded?
What if the events of the novel "The Peshawar Lancers" occured in Real Life?
And how would the world could really look like? since the maps based on what is described in the book seems too obvious, not taking in account the countries already independents in October of the year 1878 (month and year of the point of divergence to our history)
I am here from 2020 the day of the new decade!
Honestly I see WWI going differently as the Confederacy you describe sounds like it would be ripe to go a similar yet different path to Russia, where the Union fosters the still slave holding south into a Civil War led by abolitionists and an African Confederate uprising, that becomes backed back Mexico, who see this as their chance to strike back against the backwards oppressors who have been chipping away at Mexico. Thus with Canada and New England tied up with the Union and Sioux, WWI likely does end in a stalemate or Central victory. Thus the Union ends up taking southern Ontario to unite most of the Great Lakes and fosters Quebec as an Independent nation to stop Canada from messing with them again and the Sioux getting to expand their territory to Washington/Oregon to have a Pacific port.
FINALLY SOMEONE DID THIS. What if Anarchist Catalonia survived
Well... it would still have been crushed by other forces like stalinists of the PCE or the republic . But it would give the example of an alternative to bolshevism and would even make anarchism around the world more popular and a rival of bolshevism
Anarchist _California_ actually does! 😋
You may get the answer to what if the states weren’t united any longer soon if things keep up the way they are
There is an Alternative History novel ("The Dis-united States of America"), by Dr. Harry Turtledove.
It's SF, but very good SF.
I wish we’d be be a lot more decentralized. That’s be interesting to see in the 21st century if it happened.
I would really like for you to make a video about Maryland!
So here's one to posit: What if Virginia joined the Union instead of the Confederacy? The most I know would happen: General Lee is a Union general, the Union still wins the war, though this time by a landslide.
Well, for that to happen, Lincoln couldn't have launched an invasion of the South, as by doing so, Virginia, NC, Tennessee, and Arkansas (who had voted to stay in the Union) were forced to secede and protect their sovereignty. For this scenario to work, there needed to be no war.
At the 4:31mark, you speak of the best way of "securing Liberty".
Did you ever read what Alexander Hamilton wrote about that in Federalist Paper Number One (1787)?
It is very prophetic, given the Electoral Choice we have in 2024!
What if we never purchased Alaska and the White Russians retreated across the Bering Strait to form it's own nation like the Kuomintang did with Taiwan?
I literally did exactly that maybe two years ago.
What if the Federalists never died out
The music at 2:20, what is it called?
It sounds like Johnny comes marching home.
@@hammishhiggins153 Thank you
What if the Netherlands decided to make South Africa a fully fledged and proper colony rather than just a way station in 1652 and resulted in a larger European population.
Yeah and it wouldn't be in the state it is right now.
@Monsieur Z
This reminds me of “Bring the Jubilee “
What if the Dutch colonised Australia?
*G E K O L O N I S E E R D, M A T E!*
Happy New Year, Monsieur Z.
Lest we forget other Southern Generals, namely Chesty Puller and Patton.
If the states had never united the world would now be a much better place.
What if afganistan became communist and defeated the islamists
Marx Hu-Akbar!
@@Perririri Lmao
Soviet union still falls,I imagine 9/11 still happens but the us invades another country to get osama
2 videos from Wonderwhy and Wendover, now this, too perfect
Would be nice if the maps were labeled on the side, it's really difficult to tell what's going on on them
I am making my own Alternate History and looking for either a unique scenario for Africa or a way to divide Africa like Korea
Could someone explain to me why the Confederates were on the entente side in WW1? Why wouldn't they have stayed neutral citing internal issues?
They would hate the North and the North would be on the other side
Pls do what if the Byzantine Empire took part in the colonization of the Americas if you haven’t already
They were dead by that time
Evermore Shores Ik it is just a cool video idea
Really good video!
Free American Empire when?
He did that
@@davestylehenry I mean right now in 2020, we need it.
@The Nova renaissance
Unfortunately, our country the USA has long since been subverted by outside interests in order to benefit them. But this is a global problem.
this need to be a hoi4 mod
Not only was your quote of the 10th Amendment incomplete (Omitting "or to the people") but it failed to note its most significant purpose: to ensure that States could, if they desired, permit slavery and that individuals could own slaves. it was a compromise in wording. Any direct language permitting slavery would have received objections from the northern States while lack of protection of slavery would have received opposition from the South. Without this artfully worded Amendment likely there would have been no Constitution and no United States as we know it. It seems odd given the subject matter of this video that this information was not included.
What if Frederick III of Germany had a successful operation for throat cancer in May 1887, and remained Kaiser for several more years? Would an alliance or at least an entente between Britain and Germany be possible?
my god this scenario would be juicy in hoi4
Can you do what if the Conch Republic actually succeded in our timeline here is the story about the Conch Republic
In 1982, the United States Border Patrol set up a roadblock and inspection point on US 1 just north of the merger of Monroe County Road 905A/Miami-Dade County Road 905A onto US 1 (they are the only two roads connecting the Florida Keys with the mainland), in front of the Last Chance Saloon just south of Florida City. Vehicles were stopped and searched for narcotics and illegal immigrants. The Key West City Council complained repeatedly about the inconvenience for travelers to and from Key West, claiming that it hurt the Keys' important tourism industry. Eastern Air Lines, which had a hub at Miami International Airport, saw a window of opportunity when the roadblocks were established; Eastern was at the time the only airline to establish jet service to Key West International Airport, counting on travelers from Key West to Miami preferring to fly rather than to wait for police to search their vehicles.
When the City Council's complaints went unanswered by the U.S. federal government and attempts to get an injunction against the roadblock failed in court, as a form of protest Mayor Dennis Wardlow and the council declared Key West's independence on April 23, 1982. In the eyes of the council, since the U.S. federal government had set up the equivalent of a border station as if they were a foreign nation, they might as well become one. As many of the local citizens were referred to as Conchs, the nation took the name of the Conch Republic.
As part of the protest, Mayor Wardlow was proclaimed Prime Minister of the Republic, which immediately declared war against the United States (symbolically breaking a loaf of stale Cuban bread over the head of a man dressed in a naval uniform), quickly surrendered after one minute (to the man in the uniform), and applied for one billion dollars in foreign aid.
Conch Republic officials were invited to the Summit of the Americas in Miami in 1994, and Conch representatives were officially invited to 1995's Florida Jubilee.
The faux secession and the events surrounding it generated great publicity for the Keys' plight - the roadblock and inspection station were removed soon afterward. It also resulted in the creation of a new avenue of tourism for the Keys.
So what if it was not just a joke and the newly formed Conch Republic succeded form the USA.
Also here is the Wikipedia page about the Conch Republic en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conch_Republic
It all depends on how the Feds respond. I have no idea.
Ironic that the arch-conservative northeast of the federalist era is now arch-liberal
and the arch religious northeast is now one of the least religious regions
The whole theory falls apart if large groups of people move south that means the south would be a more industrial and devlop area
What if the Native Americans were immune to the Old Disease's
Hi Mr Z, what if in ww2 Japan never bombed pearl and USA join Germany instead of fighting it and Germany never invades Russia, Zimbabwe and country's like it don't find communism
What if Germany decided to ally with Nationalist China rather than Imperial Japan during the 1930s?
Taiwan, the Nazi Protectorate of China
I don't know about the rest of the Old NW, but Michigan was definitely settled by people from New England & NY
What was up with California and the Four Corners?
what if the Philippines was integrated as spain's province instead of colony? what if the philippines became a US state? what if the philippines was never united by spain?
Scary how powerful *The Confederate States of America* are in this alternate timeline.
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I actually writing a what if World were the United States is actually disunited and each state has their culture and identities. No single state has pure control over others, and even though several states share certain traits like slavery or religion, but other than these bare bones traits they differ when you look deeper. For example, Texas is not considered a Slave State by 1860 because of a large Hispanic population outnumbering that of a white population, and other southern states don’t influence it for fear of Northern states entering the state politics. Another major change is the industrialized North and South, the Southern states cannot rely on the Northern states for industrial goods and creates a need for industry in the South. Actually the thing that forces the question of unity is trains tracks, with the creation of safer and quicker of travel allows the spread of ideas and knowledge and making a identity of unity because of the Rise of Nationalism. Not to mention that immigrants actually influenced the culture of states such as the a great Asian culture in the west coast, and the Irish culture being important in the north east.
If those northern states were more religious, then the separation of Church and State would have been FAR MORE important to them; not less. The separation of Church and State was to keep the government out of the Church, not the other way around.
@@WyattPriceTV Right, but that fear was just as strong the other way around. They didn't want the government to dictate how their specific religions operate. It works both ways. The founding fathers were very religious, regardless of what colony they were from.
But if the states are divided, whose to say tucumseh wouldn't play these state militias against one another.
We can start to see his not taking certain things into account.
What’s the yellow territory in the map?
What if the Germans won the battle of the Bulge and Kursk?
I don't get how the USA executes the Louisiana Purchase under the Articles of Confederacy. Instead, I see the lower Mississippi being either purchased or annexed after settlement from the South similar to Texas in our timeline. Without purchase of the upper part of the Mississippi/Missouri water shed, I'd see this area partitioned between the USA and Britain/Canada. Rather than this occurring on the 49th parallel, with a less strong national government in the USA, I would guess that this would occur at more like the 42nd parallel. Also, this provides a better chance for Deseret to persist as an independent country.
Read The Freedom Factor by Gerald Lund. A novel based upon this question. It’s a great story
Would rather you have done done Parts 1 & 2.
What if a western native American and/or black American state formed and was able to join the USA?
What if Nat Turner's Rebellion never happened, and due to the lack of the tensions it created, Virginia eventually enacted gradual abolition of slavery? What would happen to the deep south? Would the confederacy ever form?
What if Chinese immigration to the USA continued unimpeded, and eventually brought over the "Three Principles of the People" as a political philosophy that proceeded to influence the USA or at least the West Coast during the Great Depression?
What if Daniel De Leon's American socialism was able to take power in the USA?
What if the American Civil War became a multiparty war with more than two-sides? Say a Free State of Jones styled movement erupts in the Confederacy with blacks and poor whites rebelling against the Confederate government, and a similar uprising of disgruntled workers, immigrants, natives, etc, fighting the Union?
What if the 1811 Louisiana Slave Revolt was successful in establishing a free black republic in the American deep south?
What if the French Revolution was successful in establishing a stable monarch-less democratic republic in Europe?
What if the "5 Civilized Tribes" and/or the Iroquois modernized enough to resist the USA, and established their own modern countries in North America?
YOU CALL NEW YORK SMALL, first capital of the US and major trade so what are you on about
What if the Great Lakes were one big inland sea?
What if a North American superstate was formed?
Darth Vegeta Communist you want to take over my empire
What if the Inca Empire survived.
Seems we are headed back here soon
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