What if the United States Didn't Exist?
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The United States has dominated the 20th and 21st centuries, but its inception may have transformed the history of the world as we know it. How would the North American continent change if the U.S didn't exist? Here is one scenario.
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Using knowledge of geography, population and other historical facts I predict what could have happened had things gone differently in history.
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400 million guns would be homeless
Lol
Nooooooo not the guns!
Anything but that :’(
Jon Fury they aren't safe. If the sharks weren't around America wouldve had more deaths then Australia
Unless they do
Mark Flint ye
hey USA haters don't blame USA, blame French they were behind of all this
You should actualy thank the French instead of hating on em, they are the reason you guys are here in the first place.
By the crown, you're right! I'm gonna go through the Channel Tunnel and teach those Frenchies a lesson! *America is British soil!*
I don't hate the US, I hate the retards who bring up the war, about being the shit out of the british empire when it wasn't so damn simple. Same as the polish who believe their country is still great while a hell of a lot of polish people go to first world countries to get work. That's like saying Romania is a great country, they also get half their history wrong. Whats up with people and their horrible knowledge on history? Guess I just dislike people being ill-informed.
As a British person I always blame the French. In this case, having them be actually guilty is simply a nice bonus.
Dr. Yes don't blame people in sins, blame God because he made them.
This enraged George Washington’s father, who punished him severely.
Issac Ho this comment is heavily underrated
Isaac Ho I know what you are talking about
Oversimplified!!!!
Dude... uncool XD
LMAO
Oversimplified reference .
Britain: no more slavery
Person: but I like slavery
Britain: did I stutter
Meanwhile the British had Child Labor and were killing children in factories.
@@Taschip exactly
Taschip wait there is..? What establishments, I’m stupid lol.
@@mitzy9221 Back in the 1800's when Slavery in America was around.
@@mitzy9221 Nowadays both Slavery and Child Labor is outlawed and is illegal.
What to remove to get world peace according to the internet:
USA
Islam
capitalism
Christianity
Religion
nations
states
Europeans
Arabs
Jews
money
weapons
communists
Humans
Did I forget anything?
Tarik360 democratics
Tarik360 The Apoplexia
Tarik360 I'm pretty sure removing the entire solar system would do the trick =D
*****
Perfect!
Finally a comment I can agree with
*King George III wants to know your location*
*Accept*
*D e c l i n e*
@Harry Schroder 🎶Time will tell🎵
@@degeneratesquid5873 you'll remember that I've served you well
With 2 million other American soldiers testing out this fantastic working tsar bomba we found
“Give me liberty, or give me death!”
“So, you have chosen... death.”
Wrong, I have chosen liberty; you have chosen to give me death.
Normie
México and Canada: It's a free real state
Mexico: in Central America
Canada: an island
USA: underwater
Mexican empire?
Literally
Did you forget me
True very true
Then we don't have Assassin's Creed 3, Black Flag, Rouge, and Unity
would that really be such a loss?
JustBeingCozi oh no that's my fav because your playing as an native an i am native lol
@Rert 78 LOL
We probably would
You know, there's a lot of comments saying the world would be a better place without America. You convinced me.
What if the US broke apart into 50 countries RIGHT NOW, (I'm not demanding it to be done right away, I mean if they broke up in our day and age"
luis Rodriguez Texas would invade the rest of the USA and take over the world.
I believe Texas, California, and....I don't know, Deleware? New York Maybe? Yeah, somebody else would take New England.
luis Rodriguez
Here comes Canada and Mexico.
***** Canada would trip on the way there.
luis Rodriguez Or maybe the Russians. But one of them would invade us no doubt.
and Spain is forgotten again lol
they helped too ya know
wasnt just France
Difference is - France actually being involved
@darykeng one of the most famous families in Spain at the time supplied the American revolution with 215 bronze cannon - 30,000 muskets - 30,000 bayonets - 512,314 musket balls - 300,000 pounds of powder - 12,868 grenades - 30,000 uniforms - and 4,000 field tents during the war, that’s one family. The Spanish also fought against the British along side the revolution in the Midwest and later the Northwest territory as they laid claim to it after the War which was thwarted diplomatically by Great Britain and the young United States in 1783.
@@chiefhanlon5450 That and they took back florida from the Brits
They just wanted Florida back and they didn't even recognise the United States
Netherlands: "I'm over here too, guys! ...Guys?"
When usa died with it napoleon never arrived. The spanish empire still had south italy
:Eventually pizza became Spanish
I always love talking about the french involvement in the revolutionary war, more specifically Lafayette. There are no fewer than 70 US cities and towns named after this 1 frenchman due to the high regard the founding fathers found him in.
Wait, let me get off at Broadway-Lafayette on the J train
Lafayette and Pulaski biggest names in revolutionary war. Lafayette stayed at the owen thomas house in savannah and Pulaski is buried here.
Josh Davis Savannah gang wya
@@orangutaunthefirst3313 work downtown, born and raised outskirts. 5 years san diego(navy)
To bad dude got stripped of his rank/ power (or whatever you call it) and thrown in jail.
The amount of anti-American hatred is strong in this comment section.
90% of comments are 'the world would be a better place'
Rex Memo we have our reasons
Rex Memo ikr 😂
Rex Memo its sickening seeing this much hate of our glorious nation
Workers CCCP communism doesn't work m80
The sponsorship ad at the end was really impressive in how well worked into the main video topic it was, it took me a minute to realize it was an ad and not just a side story.
"let's go back to the 177--"
me: "1776! new york city--"
Anonymous Doe
i am not an uncultured swine like my brother
Pardon me, are you Aaron Burr, sir?
Alpe OlPa depends, who's asking?
@@whimky561 oh sure, sir, I'm Alexander Hamilton
@@alpeolpa437 I'm at your service, sir, I have been looking for you-
"LIBERTY OR DEATH!"
British: ok
*firing squad*
Hipeeps Ron *loses war
That is what actually happened! It's not a joke! That goes to show how motivated these men were!
Or:
Thanks for bloody killing the revolution.
Bloody thanks for killing the revolution.
Thanks for the bloody killing revolution.
Thank for blood the revolutiony killings.
Thank blood for the revolutions killing. Why.
Revolution for the bloody thanks killing.
Revolution for the thanks. Bloody killing.
Thanks for the revolution. Killing Bloody.
Killing for the bloody revolution. Thanks.
Thanks for killing the bloody revolution.
Thanks for killing the revolution, buddy. (spare 'L')
Hipeeps Ron the irony was the colonies originally didn't want to rebel they had misguided interpretation of what their relations where with England they just wanted fair representation but the English wanted to tax them heavily for the 7 years war.
Awesome man troll #10 No one said it was a joke... any American knows this. Not to say that these men weren't heroes, though. I wouldn't be here today if they didn't exist.
Will "If Germany Won WWI Pt. 2" come out soon?
PbG1989 WW1 Part 2
Later this week, certainly by next
AlternateHistoryHub And the contest results?
AlternateHistoryHub do what would happen if United States simply vanished completely destroyed in a instant how would this affect the rest of the world?
AlternateHistoryHub How many parts of "If Germany Won WW1" do you plan on making?
America: Liberty or death
British: Okay "Bang"
😂😂😂😂
🤣
The emojis ruined it
@@thegamerkhan 😂😂😂
Lol
@@thegamerkhan 🦆
Jokes aside, the world would be hella different, and that scares me for some reason.
@@ytgetsonmynwrvera America ain't no hero
@@wallie8539 america has been a strong peacekeeping power that brought a lot of tech, and made the world we have today. Stop with this “aMeRiCa sUcKs”
I feel like the US would get independence eventually like basically every other colony in existence but would not be a super power at all! Not even close
Yeah I agree. Decolonization period wouldve happened eventually
It would likely happen in similar fashion to what happened in Canada and later New Zeland.
the whole point of video is that there would be no decolonisation. The American revolution was the shot heard ‘round the world, the other colonies thought independence was impossible and them losing in this alternate scenario would prove them right.
Filipe Salgueiro well not so much Canada because they became prosperous due to the United States
The decolonisation period really only started cause of pressure from the US after the 2nd World War
No Logan Paul,great.
emilio arce an he would still exist
Well also, who would invent the computer?
Morgz would still exist so it’s whatever
@@arieson7715 you :)
Can we imagine a British logan Paul? We dont have to. Credit to morgz.
The spain colonies would become kingdoms eventually and everything would be less bloody, doesn't it?
Spain was quite benevolent to the new world colonies so it would probably be similar to the way british dominions left like canada and australia
lmao rip the natives XD
Yeah because they would be just like Europe. And Europe was known for no war. Right? Idiot.
Hello from Buffalo, NY! I have watched and loved all of your videos!
so if I understand no U.S.A = mega Canada
no U.S.A = Africa 2.0
now with maple syrup
no U.S.A = Google
The Beavers will be dominant
Num Num Tasty Canada is already huge
Just from the topic I already know the comment section is gonna be like navigating a minefield.
oh god it is
Blinded by the Moonlight
If by 'mines' you mean 'turds' then you are *correct*.
And you were right, the size of the minefield's immense.
IKR?
Going to need a bigger mine detector.
I’m pretty sure this would have more drastic effects than those listed in the video.
The events listed in the video are pretty drastic no germany no napoleonic wars and a new balance of power
But Green Sahara would be even more drastic.
The lack of Napoleon wouldn't force the Portuguese Royal Family to Brazil, which would make Brazil only a Portuguese colony until now.
Germany would win WW1/2
@@die1mayer how If the brits have america
all of your videos are really cool and interesting. i love them so much man. one of the many things i appreciate about your videos that that you start off with with real history before sharing your alternate timeline. i also find your alternate timelines to be very well thought out and researched. thanks for high quality work!
Seriously, what’s with the anti-American hatred in this comment section? I may not be America’s biggest fan, but I’m not bullheaded enough to assume that the ‘world would have been more peaceful/the world would have been a better place’ simply because the United States never existed.
Firstly, the alternate world would still have had terrible problems to deal with. Racial, religious and cultural tensions would still exist; ethnic cleansings, mass killings and genocides would still exist; corruption, war and terrorism would also still exist. These issues have affected humankind for hundreds of years and the absence of the United States would not be enough to stop our species from continuing to commit such activities. The only difference, in the alternate world, would be that the figures, nations and organisations that represent or are associated with these activities would be entirely different.
Secondly, a ‘world war’ or at least a war of that scale would have occurred at some point in the alternate future. Industrialisation, which was started in Britain, and tensions between massive European empires played major roles in the First World War. And this would have existed even with the absence of the USA.
Thirdly, everything invented in the US, both the good and the bad, would have been made by someone else. That includes nuclear bombs. Most likely, a nation or empire would have probably taken the equivalent role of the US in the alternate timeline, and the alternate world’s citizens would currently be giving them shit for all the terrible things they’ve caused, just like what some people are doing in this comment section with their anti-American sentiments.
Also, going off on a bit of a tangent, it was imperial treachery by the British and the French that ultimately soured Arab-Western relations (i.e. Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916) for the next century. The agreement, which broke a major promise made to the Arabs who rebelled against the Ottoman Empire, led to the instability of an entire region because of the apportioning of the Ottoman lands to several Allied powers with disregard of local customs and tribal territories. Sure, there has always been a history of disputes between Western and Arab nations or empires (for example, the Crusades) and the US certainly didn’t help with its recent military involvement in the region, but don’t ignore the fact that it was a failing of many nations and empires over the course of history that has led to the problems today. Not just the US.
because shoving a political system that does not function into countries that had been stable before
OP comment should have more likes.
+artistic mediscout the medical scout of medicine
Pretty much.
preach
Vengeful Sinner I might hate america for another reason then others I hate them because of their patrionism for example
this channel has used 'thetruesize' site and that site says 'countries and STATES' like states or that important why not russian provinces or canadian provinces no only American states and people compare countries to Fcking states like realy...
Earth Man someone doesn't know how states work / borders LMAO
What if Blockbuster actually purchased Netflix?
SHIT THE JIG IS UP EVERYBODY GET OUT
Death to PG ILLUMINATEH
O fuk
now we're asking real questions
Shear anarchy would ensue I imagine
Really love this!!!!
I always love watching these videos, it's always fascinating to think, "What If?"
Hmm...
I mean...
There'd be less Porn.
Filthy Daemon Spawn ummmmmmm children ones would be higher
maybe
There'd also be less Pokemon Go.
Well...shit your right. This kinda brings things into perspective actually.
Filthy Daemon Spawn there'd be less F R E E D O M and usually we'd be better off without it.
I did the ancestry DNA test a few years ago and found out I had 10% English and Irish ancestry and 7% Native/Pacific Islander and I couldn't help but wonder who were the people that contributed that DNA into my bloodline? What was their life story? I hate that I'll never know...
*Sounds like you need an animus from Assassin's Creed*
I mean - it doesn’t mean that the DNA matches historical Pacific Islander populations, but that it matches the current DNA samples from those areas. So probably British sailors slept with some local women in the 1700s or something (so the Pacific Islander DNA is a bit British, and matches that way - rather than you being a bit Polynesian).
what about the other 83%?
@@CapCody other Europeans probably
@@goose93 well 83% is a LOT
From America with love,
You're an absolute gem Aisling 💕
Hi Cody
You may enjoy the Alternative History novel, "The Two George's," co-authored by Harry Turtledove ( who else, hmm? 👍😉), and Richard Dreyfuss.
Its premise is that the American Revolution was initially a tax revolt, and that George Washington and King George III would negotiate a treaty akin to a free trade agreement or the contemporary US " most favoured trading partner" status, commonly called the Two George's Treaty.
This alternative world spans a British Empire built on trade, whose main rival is Tsarist Russia....
If this is news to you, then I hope you enjoy that novel as much as I enjoy your videos here 👍😁
If America never existed then there would be a guy like you theorizing about what it would be like if it did.
and then someone would comment saying
If America existed then there would be a guy like you theorizing about what it would be like if it didn't.
CZcams-ception 🤯
Fuck all of you I'm to high for this
This comment section right here is me every time I am high with my own thoughts
🤯🤯
what if Napoleon succeeded in European conquest?
Jacqueline Leiman well he did for a short time
If we're being honest, he couldn't have unless you butterfly in major naval reforms which would be unfeasible, but even then that is probably not enough as he would still be unable to conquer Russia, and would not be able to pacify the client states which would just defect against him as IRL. Britain's navy was larger, and Britain's admirals (like Lord Nelson) were generally superior (this was due to Britain's naval commissions being based on meritocracy rather than being purchased like they were in France - Britain's naval officers had earned their ranks and were therefore generally more capable commanders and stronger leaders who had earned their way in life and thus had the respect of their crews which kept morale high [eg. the British kept fighting even when Lord Nelson was killed by a sniper during the battle of Trafalgar]). This is why the British smashed Napoleon's combined French + Spanish fleet at Trafalgar. With naval dominance, Britain was therefore almost completely safe from being invaded by Napoleon (being an island and having naval superiority after decisively beating the French fleet), whereas Britain could invade Napoleonic Europe, which it did IRL. Britain sent troops to Portugal (Britain's ally), and then the British and Portuguese (and anti-Napoleon Spanish partisans) fought the French (and puppet Spain) in the Iberian peninsular. In very simplistic terms, because Britain could not be silenced, it was free to keep organising and subsidising coalitions against Napoleonic France; France defeated the coalitions but was eventually worn down. Napoleon came close at the end of the War of the Fifth Coalition, but there was no way he could actually hold on to his conquered client states, and was defeated in the War of the Sixth Coalition. This happened because Napoleon invaded Swedish lands that were trading with Britain against the Continental System. Sweden cuddled up to Britain (who was still fighting the French in Iberia) and Russia. Napoleon then invaded Russia with a green army because most of his veteran troops were in Iberia (the Peninsular War was nicknamed Napoleon's "Spanish Ulcer" for this reason). He was also forced to use conscripts from unwilling nations like Prussia (who had been defeated in the War of the Fifth Coalition) in the Grand Armee for his invasion of Russia. However, Prussia then defected and joined the Russians as Napoleon's invasion of Russia crumbled due to slash and burn tactics etc. Napoleon retreated to Poland to try and hold off the Russians .The 'Liberation War' kicked off in the German states, lead by Prussia with Russian assistance. Meanwhile, the British (under the Duke of Wellington) routed the French (under Marshal Soult) from Spain, and then pursued them over the Pyrenees and invaded France. Also, Napoleon was unwilling to negotiate with Austria, who subsequently defected from France to join the Coalition. The Prussians, Austrians, (and other German states like the Bavarians etc.) and the Russians expelled Napoleon back across the Rhine and forced him back steadily; fighting several battles in France like Arcis-sur-Aube. All the while Wellington's British (+ Portuguese & Spanish) force (who had invaded southern France across the Pyrenees) defeated Marshals Soult's and Suchet's forces at Nivelle, Nive, Orthez, and Toulouse. The Allies took Paris and the First French Empire capitulated, with Napoleon abdicating and being forced into exile (he did return, provoking the Seventh Coalition which defeated him again, although simplistically this was mostly just a last hurrah sort of thing and his return was short lived, being crushed once and for all at Waterloo once the Prussians arrived to assist the British and Dutch/Flemish).
Ewwwww... facts
*+Liechtenstein Mapper* Haha.
If you want a 'French domination' scenario, you could go back to the Hundred Years Wars and have Henry V of England (from the Lancaster branch of the Angevin royal family - they originally came from Anjou) not die and finish off the Dauphin; and remain heir to the French throne. That leads to a unification of England and France once he inherits it. He undoubtedly rules from France as it is more wealthy, and the court of this 'united kingdom of England and France' would be dominated by the French, and would almost definitely be Francophone.
Henry V had conquered most of France (he was a great general - see the Battle of Agincourt etc.) and had pretty much won the war - he had the current king of France (Charles VI) disinherit his heir and adopt him as the new heir, and he married Charles VI's daughter, Catherine; and had a son by her - securing the dynasty. All he had to do was finish off the remnants lead by the disinherited Dauphin. IRL, he left France to return to England and make preparations for the last push when he returned to resume the campaign, however his brother, whom he had left in command in his stead, died in battle, forcing Henry to have to hurry back to France before he could finish gathering resources and raising a new host. He came back to France and started salvaging the mess that had unfurled with his brothers death, and he ended up he contracting dysentery during the siege of Chartres and succumbed to it shortly after capturing the castle. After his death, the Dauphin was able to drive out the English as the new Anglo-French king (Henry V's son), Henry VI, was still a young child (Yes, that's correct, Henry VI was an Anglo-French king - he was officially crowned king of France [in Notre Dame, I believe, though I might be mistaken] after the death of his grandfather Charles VI; as well as being king of England). However, being an infant, he was a weak ruler, and he was eventually ousted from France by the Dauphin in the absence of his deceased father.
Hypothetically, lets say that Thomas of Lancaster (Henry's brother) was able to field his full force of 4,000 men (IRL he could only deploy 1,500 and had virtually no archers - the English longbowmen were their crack troops and made up most of the army but had dispersed to loot) he could have won the Battle of Baugé. This would mean that Henry would not have had to rush back to repair the situation as Thomas would not have died. This butterflies the entire resumed campaign when Henry returns to France meaning that he may not die during the siege of Chartres. Henry would have been able to defeat the Dauphin and unite the crowns of England and France.
With the Dauphin gone, Henry V succeeds Charles VI as king of France when he dies, and also lives long enough to raise Henry VI, who would be the living embodiment of Anglo-French unity. Even if many former Orleanists saw Henry V as a usurper, they would not be able to deny the right of his successor Henry VI, who would be the son of the previous king of France, Henry V, and the daughter of the Valois royal family, Catherine, making him also the grandson of the last Valois king, Charles VI. Henry VI would be the strongest heir to both countries so would be the legitimate ruler and would likely have a strong reign. The simple fact of Henry V living long enough to raise Henry VI and the avoidance of all the political drama that infected his court growing up, would mean that Henry VI would be a much stronger ruler than IRL; meaning no Wars of the Roses for one thing. Also, simply by inheriting the thrones later in life makes his reign stronger as IRL he inherited the thrones as an infant. With Henry V living longer, Henry VI succeeds the throne later on as an adult where he can actually reign properly and the political landscape would be much more stable.
I'll let you guys toy around with what happens after this, but basically imagine what France could do if it was not having to compete with England (and later Britain), but rather be united with England. The world as we know it would be so different...
Anglo-French world domination anyone?
I'd like to see that one in a video!!
I’m interested to know how the absence of America would affect industrialization and technology as we know it today. Even though the Industrial Revolution didn’t start in America it did have a HUGE impact on how technology changed overtime
The UK remained a core market for raw materials for manufacturing because their industrial base was the largest in the world throughout the 19th century. It's partly why they backed the South in the civil war, as they were concerned about maintaining cheap cotton exports to the great weaving towns of Midland and Northern England. In fact America didn't surpass the GDP of the UK until 1895 (though it might have been sooner without a Civil War...)
Even when America opened up Japan to Western Capitalism by force, it was ultimately Engineers from Glasgow and Scientists from London that Meiji Japan turned to for help industrialising, and it was the shipyards of Northern England that built their modern Navy.
It was the late 19th and early 20th century when the US had more influence on industrial growth, though mainly in the Americas.
Bruh this video needs more views and you need more subscribers
Spain also helped in the American Revolution by providing finance.
But they didnt have frances power
@@anemu3819 yeah they couldve had more. Look at ALL dat territory Spain had in that time period in North America
@@anemu3819 although, yes they arent talked about as much, but all countries played a pretty large role
And troops
I think spain wouldnt help usa if france didnt.
Well then American history would be much easier...
I guess the sun would still never set on the British Empire.
r/whoosh andrew
No
Hardly. Instead you would get to learn the history of a thousand years of British Monarchs.
@@cdjhyoung Instead we get overloaded with facts like the 3 largest cities in all 50 states, what the state motto is or who was the governor of Ohio in 1885 and which city is the capitol. That crap adds up quick with 50 states and even more territories.
Me(American): I wonder what the comments sayyy- ok nevermind, I can see im not wanted here
And people say us Americans are bad.
@@razier5299 Yes. yes, we do
@@razier5299 actually, americans hate americans
@@andknuckles101 youre just proving his point. We are literally just living rent free in yall's heads in an entire comment section and yet we are bad. Yall are obsessed with us and yet still "murica bad".
Pretty cool video!!!
What if America split into 3 countries: one in the the western side speaking Spanish, the south where they speak French, and only the North East parts being English-speaking? Imagine how different it'd be...
chillchillpill hillbilly French
That would be horrible.
I live texas btw
"Deutschsprachige Föderation von Nordamerika"
Oregon
Staat Washington
Wyoming
Nevada
Wisconsin
Nebraska
Minnessota
South Dakota
North Dakota
Michigan
Niagara
Manitoba
Saskatchewan
+ Idaho :)
If you have British blood, you most likely have Scandinavian blood as well. You probably had viking ancestors.
That's a unique thought. What if we could go all the way back to before 1000 AD and find out our heritage does come from the Vikings? After all, the Vikings did make landfall in what is now America many centuries before Columbus. And what about our Navy? The awesome ships and submarines in our Navy's fleet may be due to Viking ingenuity. The Vikings were bloodthirsty warriors of course, but look at all the contributions they eventually brought to our society in our modern age. They had the will and the means to travel in their wonderful ships and the ability to navigate them through the challenging fjords of their homeland of Norway and in storm-tossed open seas.
I know this comment is a joke but , no
If you have any European blood then you're a descendant from King Charles Martel.
I have 3% Irish, Scottish and Welsh blood. Do I count?
Most likely no cause Scotland was only partly took over by Vikings unlike England and whales so large chunks of Scots probably Didn't even know Vikings were on they're homeland
8:00, Austrailia was already known, and had its coasts surveyed by the Brits before the American Revolution. It became a penal colony in 1788, based on a 1779 recommendation of a man who accompanied Cook in 1770. So, unlikely they would have started exploration and discovery of new lands like Austrailia in the 1780s when Austrailia's coasts had already been explored. I like your speculation, but a quick check of Wikipedia brings some details into question.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Australia
Yeah, and the whole "the british spread across america wouldnt go kill all the natives and give them autonomy" when Australia, which was the british, was an absolute genocide
I think what he means is that britain would incest lest kn the colonization of australia
Idk if it was this video in particular, but i decided to jump on the ancestry DNA test.
I was adopted at birth so i knew very little about my family other than my mother was named Juanita.
Fast forward 2 years later i found my mother on ancestry DNA.
Thanks Cody. You helped reunite me with my sister, brother, mother, and the reat of my family.
An American who realises they would’ve lost without France
Not necessarily true. Tactics would've gotten much more brutal and strained all European relations. Like skinning loyalist soldiers alive, bombing English cities in Europe. Burning up the entire English fleet with simple oil on the water in the middle of fucking night. Infact the US that arose would be the confederation of states. CSA would've stilled happened, but with the east not the south. A simple hunter with a rifle could cause terrible fear in ranks when their generals and officers heads and being blown the fuck off from over a mile away(Yes we had scoped rifles, learn how the US Rangers were formed).
Debt re-paid in full!
On the flip side, France would've become part of the British Empire without the Colonial Revolution ...it all works out in the end.
*beginning of the war
White Reaper yea, but we weren’t making 1 mile shots, but your point stands, without France; we still had a good shot of winning, all we had to do was hold out and let British opinion turn against the war (which is what happened)
90% Comments : Bashing on the US, despite inspiring many countries to break free from their rulers or captors
5% Comments: Bashing on Europeans for bashing the Yankee Doodles
5% Comments: Actually requesting video ideas
Ene more like 100% Americans saying how great America is and how Europeans are just jelly and butt hurt and have to make fun of America to keep their dicks hard or something.
Nationalist herd-americans.
America will only help you to emancipate if they need something.
Ene So you think it was okay for u.s to steal this continent from Native Americans with worthless treaties or take it by force with fire and sword,the Iroquois don't call George Washington the town burner for no reason.
Yeah, it's not like any European country is sitting on land that didn't initially belong to them, after all.
i love the video also to the ancestory dna thing
Americans: “What if-“
Alternate History Hub: *”I don’t even know who you are”*
what if America was discovered and taken over by Asia instead of Europe?
Patrick Leal Specifically by Zheng He.
It was? But Europeans turned out to be stronger.
boerekable Asia never set foot in the America's.
TheInsaneComputer Gamer The Indians came from Asia over Alaska.
boerekable That was prehistory though when humans where hunters gathers. That doesn't count.
the comments section will be flood with anti American trolls
Lol..looks for civilized conversation on youtube....What? why?? Get a friend and have a decent conversation, or you just have an echo chamber and roam youtube comments for different opinions? You have a better chance on 4chan.
moon knight The sad thing is, most of them were born in America. These trolls are so brainwashed with liberalist propaganda, they don't even realize that, without America, they would have no place to live, and would be completely different people.
moon knight fuck america
KentuckianOtaku 405 america is shit
KentuckianOtaku 405 well Serbians r at least real nation
amazing
If there's no Napoleon, there's no Latinamerican revolutions, Spain remains one of the biggest empires
A lot of great memes wouldnt exist
Black Hand bad
The internet would be made eventually by someone else. Just would take longer.
You should’ve posted this comment on their what if the internet never existed video.
Black Hand bad
To many...
Well shit, the world doesn't seem so bad if America lost
No internet
Well duh
If any country was entirely wiped out, the world would have eventually ended up in a similar scenario that it is now. So, it would not be a bad place, just different.
cottermcg 1234 There would still probly someone who would make the innternett
It'd be the same except there would be more native americans
The world would be a better place
how?
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 because usa bad
Thanks for using the old FSU logo!
Wars create innovators, strives in technology. If we had no wars, we would probably be in 40s era technology. Now quit complaining about the U.S. Doing most of there wars. If it weren't for them, you probably wouldn't have the device your looking this on. At least, not yet anyway.
Sincerely,
A Canadian.
lol do you think that tech would be progressing at a rate faster than now in America if there was a war at your doorstep ?
David22092001 not just America, the world. The first two world wars saw technology advance so fast they were replacing the obsolete as fast as it was coming. A Third World War is not necessary though, as that most likely would be what the First World War was thought to be. "The war to end all wars" even now we are advancing in technology. History happens for a reason. If it weren't for those wars, many of us may have never been born. The only wars that were not really needed were the Vietnam, Korean, and the middle eastern wars. Unnecessary, but they happened. They are out of our reach. Wars teach us on things that should never be done (I.e Geneva convention) that was my two cents to your response sir.
Relic Finder true, true. Btw, Ilove Canda! From someone British.
okay but hear me out: the lives of millions of indigenous people > CZcams
aadkinsl flu's a bitch
america: (watch this video and don't care)
8:45
america: WHAT DID U SAY?!
LMAO
I said "FUCK america! "
Cody: The bountiful amount of oil"
*US Army wants to know your location*
*Declined*
Oil
Now do a:
What if Mexico don't lose California, Texas, new Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, pls
Or what if mexico and europeans stayed on their land and the natives kept america
@@usimahaeua that would be kind of interesting.
In that case, I think Mexico will get along preatty good with the natives
Rephrase that to
"What if Mexico Won the Mexian-American War" or something along those lines
I feel like the answer is that, the US would not be near as powerful as it is today
This video is practically explains the answer to the question im pretty sure we have all asked ourselves at one point if the British won the revolution
The entirety of the world would have no one to blame their country's problems...
12 year old watches leafyishere every single day then they could blame the Chinese then
+Opritchniki Sad but true.
Now you know how Brits felt up until the 70's - many still do. Still hated by most, but when I became an American, it's the same all over. I was hated as a Brit, now as an American. People will always be envious of the 2 greatest and most successful powers to have ever have existed. Cunts!
It's quite the opposite of envy. People just feel better about themselves if they can point at other people and say those are worse than them.
No constantly whinging americans either
Gonna be a lot of salt in this comment section
Sometimes I wonder if Cody has sometimes a laugh at the crazy comment threads or a cry at the fact that people don't go the "thought" part of his thought experiments
MrStingBlade this will become the world's most successful salt mine
MrStingBlade Good. I needed some for my French fries.
Shan Dilworth While you are eating them remember, if it was not for France, you wouldn't get this salt.
MrStingBlade lol ikr
I recommend reading “The Two Georges” by Harry Turtledove
I love this time line
Hey all. Happy 2017! I'm a stickler and often try to perfect my work for the sake of "creativeness". That though causes headaches and delays. I'm going back to a simpler style which means videos every week now. German Part 2 will be next, followed by Alternate Countries 4. If I have one resolution, it's consistency. So check back every weekend for a new video! Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/AltHistoryHub
Happy 2017! Now can we talk about if ww1 never happened? just a suggestion!
Cody why do you sound so depressed in your newest videos.
Did you enjoy your New Years Cody?
This scenario requires the Revolution to have gotten into full swing, and for the Americans to lose.
How different would the story be if peaceful negotiations had succeeded, and the colonies remained under the British, but on their pwn terms?
I imagine much of the above scenario would remain true, but with the outcome of the conflict being negotiation versus outright defeat, the cultural impact would be pretty significant.
y the discount only works for USA :( not even work in canada
Colonists: LIBERTY OR DEATH
British: Okay.
Britain: *_y e s_*
We are looking for people like you
British: Lol k
This is a great question I love seeing how this could possibly go in history. Also what part of ohio are you from? I am too.
Wow, for once an ad that doesn't sound cringy and is actually interesting to listen to.
To all naysayers. Keep in mind the internet you are watching this on was invented in the States. (Edit: with great and welcome international help.) Also the one creating the videos you're a fan of is an American who loves his country.
because the internet would never have been invented in some other country
Fridisen :3 Not saying it wouldn't have been. Just that factually, in our timeline, it was pioneered here and allows for wondrous communication that is both global and instantaneous. So like it or not, the internet originated here and it's most definitely a positive force in the world.
And that Cody affirms his patriotism and love of his country at the end of the video. So I would think people who are fans of him would at least be polite in acknowledging that when they are talking about the U.S., he's included in that package.
As with most modern messages. It's difficult to communicate full intent in so brief a message. So I hope this clarifies.
Anthony Clay I mean..Most comments here are pretty shit, I fucking hate american politics (and system)for what it have done, but It dont mean I hate america or its people for that :/ if america didnt exist the world would be just as good and shit in other ways
Fridisen :3 Well sadly, the two are kind of connected and I don't mean to excuse my home for its mistakes. As Carl Shurz once said, "My county; and my country is the great American republic. My country right or wrong. If right to be kept right. If wrong to be set right." Or the more famous Mark Twain, "Patriotism is supporting your country always and your government when it deserves it."
My government does not deserve my loyalty for the time being but take it from me, we are aware of the problems and cooler heads are doing what we can as citizens, voters, and representatives to correct them.
I believe, for all our faults, the United States as a nation and an ideal, has been and will continue to be a net gain of good for humanity. You may disagree and I have no issue with that. I merely and humbly request you keep in mind in the future that negative statements made about "America" with no qualification will likely be taken as comment against the greater culture and people of a highly diverse nation rather than a legit criticism of the negative actions of Washington D.C. most of which we are painfully aware of.
All due respect.
The internet wasn't invented just by Americans lol.
3:40 "Canada... simply doesn't exist."
*sounds like a plan*
They're not even a real country anyway
Blame Canada!
Every colonists: *YEAH IT DOES.*
Toucan SonofSam Australia isn’t real either
Toucan SonofSam brrrrrah yes they are. How dumb you think they aren’t
If the United States didn't exist
Canada would be lonely 🇨🇦😞
Mexico still exists.
Probably.
@@DaveMiller6042 Mexico would be bigger
@@arthurshelby2133 Mexico or Spain?
@@razier5299 **hot moms are near your area and still not to u**
@@xxcattoxx544 k?
Why is this recommended on 4th of July? Lol
who would win?:
a vast powerful empire of hundreds of thousands of men
or
some bois with pitchforks
No idea. How is your chest wound?
Some freedom bois
@@insulam821 i know that. in the video, it specifies that the empires dont help the Americans and thats why they lose
Insulam Archipelago so the Vietnam war basically
@@Nz-tm3gs what do you think my comment was about? the scenario in the video is France and Spain never helped the colonists and how we proceed from there
This video : exists
This video comment section : exists
Internet CZcams politicians : it’s free real estate
Ther are youtube politicians?
Its not a house bud
inkmortal stfu
American Revolution: Fails
Another Revolutionary in the far east: JIBUN WO SEKAI SAE MO KAETE SHIMAESOU NA
SHUNKAN HA ITSUMU SUGU SOBA NI!!
I see opportunity.
Sounds like a better world than ours, tbh.
World Peace.
The opposite actually. Imagine if all the colonial empires still exist in 2023
Jeez, plenty of anti-American comments here...
...
...I'll just be on my way then...
CODEX fuck you
Aski fuck off
Aski oh you mean like you europeans?
jooj ceec thank you, i’m conservative, the countries who have stricter immigrations laws will last longer, there are a few in europe including yours, at least more than like france and germany
Deranged Mokeys Europe has survived 2 world wars, communism and fascism, do you really think some muslim minority will destroy it?
France: "I should be more fiscally conservative"
Revolutionaries: "What"
*The united kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has liked the video*
I have the same thing when it comes to ancestry. I haven't taken the test yet but I know that I'm a Heinz 57. Since I'm from NZ and we were one of the last places to be settled (like you said) my heritage is going to be mostly European, but I'm still 100% kiwi and was born in NZ.
I am a Brit and I don’t like this timeline about the USA not existing. I prefer our own timeline with the USA. I am glad the USA got its independence.
Actually, i wish you guys would have us back now. :)
racists like you are the problem
Don Draco
That’s really racist.. I’m white. Do you think I should die because my skin is white? Also, as an American, I prefer our history with Britain too.
🇺🇸 🇬🇧
Don Draco Hitler much?
Coolrh13 Ur gayyyyyyyy fam
IS NO ONE GONNA COMMENT THAT ALTERNATE HISTORY HUB HAS JUST REACHED 1,000,000+ SUBSCRIBERS?????!?!?!?!
You did
Dennis Tran YAAAAAAAAA BOIII
Liechtenstein Mapper OHHH LIECHTENSTEIN I FOUND YOU again...
Actually pretty cool to see him giving a full in-depth story on a sponsorship instead of “PLAY ‘generic bad mobile game’ TODAY”
Jeez this video came out in 2017, yet that was already 5 years ago
I'm starting to notice something. I've been dumping hours upon hours into studying modern history lately, and everything loops back to Napoleon. Everything always comes back to him. Seven years war and the Revolution gave him the opportunity, the 30 years war created the political environment necessary to take power. Ww1 was directly caused by Prussian aggression which wouldn't be possible without Napoleon. And ww1 still effects us to this day.
*ATTENTION DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS!*
*ATTENTION DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS!*
com'on man , before watching the video i read comments
The Pinnacle goddammit Pinnacle, you made me read all this European anti-American shit before warning me?
Black Shadow I tried...
Im a rebel
How can I do that and read this too?
The French Revolution still had happened, only a few years later.
Because of a meteor crash in Siberia the Peasants could not pay their taxes.
Cool last name!
It's funny how there are like three times as many comments complaining about anti-american comments than actual anti-american comments.
Come to think about it, this applies to most videos where a "controversial" topic is addressed
You go down far enough you'll find them.
The Anti-American comments don't get any likes that's why.
Oh trust me bud you'll find them
Yeah! Fuck Murica
@@drevnork1 _america sucks dick_
Harry Turtledove and Richard Dreyfuss (yes, the actor) collaborated on a novel about this very subject, called "The Two Georges." I'd be surprised if you hadn't read it. Quite well done - apparently, it was going to be a feature film, but sadly, it never got made.
So at 4:30 Quebec is keeping everything but a few minutes later, British territory expands over the north Implying Quebec was gone...
The originator of my family was a general of an irish war council back in the 7th century in one of the many small villages, outside of that none of my other family members have ever done anything worth while
*Looks at comment section
MY EYES
It's funny because these type of comments are the only ones I see.
8:22 *bill wurtz voice* Time to conquer all of Indiaaaa
djdkdshlg or most of indiaaaaaaaa
djdkdshlg *I T S T H E C A M B R I A N E X P L O S I O N*
We could make a religion out of that
Or most of Indiaaaaaa. What about this part those are the tamale kingdoms. No one conquers the tamale kingdoms. Who are the tamale kings? Merchants probably!
And they've got spices!
Your friend started wearing a cape and a beret.