Dr. Turek Makes A BRILLIANT Case for GOD (Using Science & Logic)
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- In this video, Frank Turek lays out a powerful case for God using Science and Logic during a debate with the late Christopher Hitches. His case includes several different arguments that together make a compelling cumulative case so be sure not to dip out before hearing the man out! With that being said, enjoy!
Here is the Full Debate from the @CrossExamined youtube channel. Definitely go check out the rest of Dr. Turek's work:
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Science is the how. Religion is the why.
Science is the daily discovery of a creative and sovereign God.
Precisely! And the only God who is real is the one who made a way for His creation to be redeemed and to be with Him forever in limitless Joy. So, in that sense, I suppose we could say that Jesus is the Who :)
Science as in evolution ,is man's deliberate attempt to "theorize" and claim ultimate authority against the existence of a Creator.
Dr. Stephen Meyer, Jacob Prasch, and I wrote the following; Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, therefore no matter nor energy would’ve existed to do the causing. Consequently, whatever did cause the universe to exist, would need to be immaterial and exist beyond time and space! Genesis 1: 1 God creates time space and matter!
The KILLER is, Entropy! Entropy is somewhat opposite of evolution and why did this come into the universe if everything’s getting better? Genesis 2:17 says death came into the universe through the first sin!
First two chapters of the Bible not the 500th chapter or the thousandth chapter; explain what evolutionists have not explained; and no other worldview comes close to the Bible, in explaining it! The first two laws of thermodynamics!
So the Bible explains how matter, space, time, entropy, and energy get here!
DNA does not auto encrypt, it did not write itself the code writer is outside of the code. 3300 billion lines of computer code in 1 humans DNA genome, would fill the Grand Canyon 50 times of Books, let alone plant and animal DNA and it did not write itself! One person‘s DNA could stretch to the sun and back 61 times! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“.
John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did the world will not have enough room for the Books, telling of it“!
God made matter and energy, a.k.a., the first law of thermodynamics and DNA, pointing to himself; pointing to an outside source beyond the realm of the universe; that these things were made there!
Job 38:35 “were you there when I created the lightnings and they say ‘here we are!”’ This is God talking to Job!
3300 years later, James Maxwell discovers that light rays and electricity are two forms of the same thing!
The Bible Predicted telecommunications
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom....Excellent....Jesus
As a scientists I find it impossible to not belive in a creator. Modern scientists are so stubborn
Explain why you believe in your god and not the thousands of other gods people believe in.
@@brianmesser12 The can be only once infinite being which we call God.
@@brianmesser12because He is the one who truly answers back. Be it with signs, miracles, revelation, deliverance and healing.
@@les2997 you just saying it doesn't make it true. Give evidence
@@juanranger4214 name a miracle that you have proof for. A book is not evidence.
God is outside time, ideas, logic, space, matter. It’s so clear to me that I realize I’ll never understand that depth of intelligence and mercy But I’m so grateful He is my Lord and Savior and someday I will understand in depth because I’ll see him face to face.
Outside space, time and matter. So he is nowhere and never made from nothing. It is perfect description of non existence.
While it’s understandably difficult to fathom an eternal, infinite God, the alternative (all this began without a cause) is truly absurd.
Saying God is “nothing” because He is outside our known reality is a misunderstanding. Again, I get the difficulty. Finite beings can only understand the concept of eternity, not actually grasp it.
Better be ready for a long wait there is no face and no place where a face will be observed.
@@syntacticreality4855 : Communists the world over are in complete agreement with you.
@@MrDogonjon : Way wrong guess. With very bad, and permanent, results.
The Great Tribulation is coming.
Fascinating! I grew up in a very strict, quazie-religious home. I knew, because of the beatings and the tongue lashings that I was bad. But there was never forgiveness or restoration of relationship with my mom and dad. I had to just wait for their anger to blow over until I stepped out of line again, often not knowing where that line was until I crossed it. But when I was 11 years old, mom took us to a Vacation Bible School (free babysitting). There I learned that Jesus not only loved me, but He took the punishment for my sin. He offered forgiveness, restoration of relationship that was immediate. And He gave me an instruction manual, His Bible. And now when I cross the line, there is no bolt of lightning from heaven. Only sorrow, patience and love. Because of His great love that He has for us, I desire to live my best life. My kindest, gentlest, lovingest life.
So glad you finally found Jesus. Many had a bad experience with christianity and lost faith. 🙌🏻👑✝️🛡⚖
Her bad experience was not with Christianity
Once He has opened your eyes. and you actually see Him and are touched by Him, you can never be the same. I don't care what anyone says, I'll never believe anyone who claims they were a Christian, and now they don't believe. They were NEVER a Christian. Of course, I'm speaking from my own experience.
@user-ph2hh1ds4u I promise you, way better Christians than you left Christianity.
I could have written that and a Christian youth Camp (cheap babysitting)taught me about God's love as well.
Denial of the Creator is not a logic problem it is an attitude problem. The evidence for God is everywhere!
There is no evidence for any kind of god.
@@paulbeardsley4095 Thats right because we all know that everything came from nothing. Makes sense right
@@promagnuman Is that what you think we think?
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. (I agree)
@@Snezzyboi That depends. If someone claims they have imprisoned an elephant in their shed, then the absence of evidence for the elephant most certainly is evidence of absence.
"If you stretch a tape measure across the entire universe, set gravity at 1 inch, If move gravity 1 inch in either direction WE DON'T EXIST" how someone can hear that and not conclude intelligent design is beyond me.
Lmao
@@user-qg1kb8ih3gGreat argument.
But gravity is set the way it is . We are what comes out of this universe.
@@brianmesser12 If you assume the universe is random and that the gravitational constant G was just picked randomly you can see that we are lucky, very lucky. As was said in the video the probability of this is on the order of 10^-40 which is small enough to usggest a designer. But when faced with fine-tunning all togheter only a fool may reject the creator
@@bartekabuz855 but the universe is as it is. To add a creator you need to prove the supernatural. Show evidence for your god.
I always looked at it this way: You're allowed to question things, and that's what free will is. If you're not allowed to question something, that's when you know that something is fishy.
A lot of people find faith at their lowest points in life, from finding something to believing in something that might be untrue. Faith gives us hope in believing in the unknown of God.
In my own belief, when people try to describe God in human terms, it gets misinterpreted, and a lot of people get lost in the sauce and don't fully understand that we're only conveying it from our own human perspective and understanding.
_Should_ we believe? If an idea is so bad that the only people believing it are desperate, irrational people, is that actually an idea _ever_ worth believing? If an idea is so bad that we can't believe it for good reasons (evidence) and we're forced to believe for a bad reason (faith), why would we ever do that?
I agree that people interpret God in a very human way. But actually, I would challenge you to find a logical fallacy in believing that God created us. If the Bible is correct, he did indeed create us in his own image, and if that’s the case, looking at him in a human way would be exactly the way He intended. He literally gave us the handbook, we just have to read it. But just as another commenter said, science is the How, religion is the Why. Believing that God created the universe isn’t a cop out, it isn’t an excuse to not look deeper into things, and in fact as this presentation shows, religion and science are often closely intertwined. Many if not most of the greatest inventions, discoveries and pushes for progress were achieved by men and women of faith. Note that I do not specify Christianity. And many incredible atheist scientists, some of the greatest minds in history, have found themselves left with only one explanation for how such a beautifully complex masterpiece could be possible.
@@masonfarrell88 Well..
A. In order to commit a fallacy, something needs to be a claim.
B. One claim is "God created us". Without an argument why that's true, the mistake is called _fallacy of bare assertion._ Basically it's a claim without evidence; it's saying something is true, but providing no reason/evidence it's true. So that's illogical.
C. I don't think it's technically accurate to call a belief "fallacious". Instead, I'd say it's irrational to believe a fallacious claim. (Irrational is anytime one fails to match their beliefs with good evidence/argument.)
D. Additionally we know a god didn't cause humanity, because of the overwhelmingly strong evidence for evolution causing us. (A small bit of this evidence can be found in the ~350 scientific papers in the references section of "evolution" on Wikipedia, and the ~289 papers in the references of "human evolution".
E. Science will know everything that can be known. Everything else is just people claiming to know things they don't know. That's because science is the strategy where we rely on evidence (the only reliable way of knowing truth), and so either we have reasonable evidence an idea is true (and so we know it) or we don't (which means we don't know it; and anyone claiming to know it is lying, because at best they're just guessing). So no, the science-how/religion-why breakdown is simply wrong.
F. The previous point is why 100% of all technologies were discovered using evidence, and 0% using faith. So let's not pretend being a person of faith was relevant. It wasn't.
G. Near-infinite "explanations" exist for every topic. (For example "a wizard did it" or a slight variation is _an explanation_ for every unknown out there.) But you have to decide whether you're the sort of person who cares about (1) having _an explanation_ or (2) _The Correct Explanation._ Because nobody in science has found The Correct Explanation was ever god -- to know that requires evidence, and nobody has evidence of gods.
@@majm9309 your points D, E, F and G all make basically the same point, that believing in God is irrational or in any way removes the process of science. The fact that so many discoveries and inventions were achieved by people of faith doesn’t mean that that faith is what they used to prove their discoveries. No, they made their discoveries, figured out the mechanism by which said discoveries operated, and then attributed that mechanism to God. Because the assertion that science proves evolution was the origin of life is objectively incorrect. Evolution can be observed as a process of biological adaptation, and it’s easily observable. BUT, the existence of evolution does not mean that evolution was the origin of life. As of yet, we have zero evidence to prove that abiogenesis is possible.
@@masonfarrell88 Well "removes the process of science" is a weird way to put it. It seems close to the common mistake (that even many atheists make) of saying religion and science are mutually exclusive. They're not.
It's just that we don't have evidence of gods, so nobody believing in them is doing so for good, scientific reasons. So it's more accurate to say nobody's arriving at belief in god(s) using science. They're only getting to that belief by unreliable methods (and that should be a huge red flag).
That includes attributing a mechanism to a god. If we don't have evidence of a god (A) existing and (B) being responsible for something, then attributing it to a god is irrational and definitely not science.
Why are you talking about evolution being the origin of life? Who said that? Certainly not me.
Absolutely! I agree fully with your assessment at the end and thank you for finding this and sharing it with us!!
The main thing that holds people back from belief and worship in God is their knowledge of good and evil. Their own personal sense of morality, and their pride in it.
@Jim - Total garbage. The main thing that holds people back from faith in God is EVIDENCE - Christians don't have any ... like zero. And don't start about morality and pride cos Christians are totally bankrupt on that too. This is the reality of the morality of your God as depicted in the Bible.... czcams.com/video/4pdYmIwxYTE/video.html
What holds people back from believing in God is the lack of evidence.
I don't believe in gods due to a lack of evidence. Simple as that.
For me it’s the lack of evidence.
Yeah well you can thank your god for giving us that knowledge then
Gotta say that the one thing I enjoyed about this was just how positive the whole presentation was in its delivery. Not once did this man shun anyones beliefs.
Why shun when you can strawman?
He didn't stop long enough to take breath, never mind shun beliefs.
That's how a true believer is. 😊
A room full of civil people help too.
Nobody wants to pay attention to the globe earth theory is from Copurnicus 1574, and the big bang theory was coined in 1976 by Fred hoyle, as mentioned.
They'd rather go by Merrel Lynch school books. 😂
It is simply commonsense for even a child to realize life peroid IS a miracle let alone the intricate wonders of just what WE can sëê...!
Moreover Atoms & DNA didn't self invent let alone you + WE all did not eminate from a rock 3rd from the Sun...!
He was just talking fast so people don't catch him on his BS 😅😅
My old college professor was posthumously awarded the Nobel Prize. I have always wondered where he stood on matters of faith.
He seemed a bit surprised and even a bit envious when I told him I was leaving physics for reasons of faith. I was an undergrad, so to me it made very little academic difference, except for the fact that we both knew I could always return just as easily.
For him, he had spent a lifetime pursuing the neutrino-something I too had been interested in since a rather young age. He did receive his belated recognition and I, my own, in quite another more meaningful way. I have never regretted leaving physics and thank God for the chance to avoid being stuck in a quagmire for life.
A similar story -I was a biology major and unable to pass a lower division speech class. Then 20 years later I went back to college to get a teaching credential in elementary education and was able and willing to give a speech in every upper division class. Thank you Father for protecting me from the atheism built into biology.
@@gailnichols842 Hallelujah! Congratulations on your success and courage to take a self-chosen detour!
@@gailnichols842 Get excited for the next Intellects Corner upload, we're getting dangerously close to exposing the flawed ideals of science. czcams.com/channels/DqEX_78wlc3_S8mrUkCaIg.htmlvideos
Damn, I envy that guy, devoting his time to pursuing knowledge and furthering human understanding. But you giving up on that for your personal beliefs is cool too.
Why leave science? Science makes me believe more in God
It has been my observation that people who claim to be atheist have made this claim based on their behavior. They realize that to believe in God they would have to admit that their behavior is bad. And generally speaking, people don't want to make that admission.
YES. people seem to cling onto their own self, their intellect, their pride and the status quo of making fun of people who are not atheistic too..
@@Pauliex33 and vice versa.
If that's your observation, you clearly don't get out much. Belief is god requires evidence and you team doesn't have any.
@@byteme9718 Sure.. What are yours?
@@byteme9718you said this after this whole video without any rebuttal?… you are stubborn and uneducated from this comment
Your brilliant observations were a perfect compliment to Turek's. Love your channel!
Thank you for that encouragement!
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I disagree, this was an informative video until the Jesus talks, even if there's a god there's 0 reason to believe that it's Jesus. Those books were written by anonymous bronze age farmers, not scientists or historians, there's very little evidence for the existence of Jesus, there's NO evidence that anybody who wrote about Jesus ever met him or ever met anybody that met him, since they were written decades after his death. The information presented by the Dr doesn't suggest that god is Jesus, it could just as easily be the god from the thousands of other religions.
Very biased and unfair.
It wasnt a big bang, it was a big sentence, "Let there be light."
Was that Edison or Franklin?
Yeah! And - four Maxwells equations - and be light!
That Sentence was Taken Since No One Was Claiming it, You know How Humans Are obsessed Trying to Possess anything Unclaimed....
@josipfleis9223 Maxwell's theory of light falls short of explaining the photoelectric properties of light. Einstein's quantum physics light theory is a better explanation for the duality of light.
Maxwell's Equations address the Electric force and Guass the Magnetic force. They are 90 degree relative to each other.
God made them.
The vertical law (earth to heaven): "love God with all your mind, heart, soul and strength".
Horizontal law (human made in His image to human on earth): "love your neighbor as you love yourself", "do to others as you would like"
There is 90 degrees between them. Love attracts and is like these electro-magnetic forces. Love not perversion; selflessness.
Excellent presentation. God is Almighty and He has revealed Himself to us through His Blessed Son, Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour. Amen
Moronic! You don't know!
Thanks for bringing wisdom on the regular. I tend to binge this type of stuff. Which I don't like and need to work on a regular devotion.
Stephen Meyers has addressed this somewhat at greater length in one of his books. He points out that the belief in a "Designer" is much more pronounced in mathematicians and cosmologists compared to other scientists because they understand the numbers associated with "chance" macro-evolution and the fundamental logic of the origin of our universe.
Like Turek, Meyers is completely unqualified to support his clams. Like Turek, Myers is also a liar. Where is this evidence that mathematicians and cosmologists are more likely to believe in a god?
Stop lying!
Mathematicians and scientist very much agree no design is present in the universe it is random in all directions perfectly flat except for areas of localized relativity. The "Golden mean" is the best connection to evolution we have Phi keeps going when Pi closes in on it's self.
Calculating chances for one-off events is bullshit! Taking your science from anti-science propaganda is the mark of a fool.
Mr Meyers rather recent film "Darwins Dillema" is also fantastic in its presenting facts, evidence, geologic proofs, etc that lead to the only reasonable conclusion of intelligent design. Dr Hugh Ross (Reasons to Believe)(astrophysicist) shows tremendous mathematical and scientific indications of design.
@@MrDogonjon Wrong!!
I have ALWAYS said it: The big bang is the sound that the voice of God made when he spoke the universe in existence.
Cool story bro. Demonstrate that it happened
@@neilbeaton9498Do yourself the biggest favor of your entire existence brother.. research Jesus Christ .. then ask Him to show you his existence.. and then become a new creation that will spend eternity in Heaven.. I honestly don’t care if anyone believes my faith.. I care you discover it for yourself.. it’s all VERY real my man.. God Bless ✌️🙏
how many voices do you hear in your head ? - are they always arguing ?
@@neilbeaton9498No human can possibly demonstrate how the universe came about lol
Demonstrate that it didn't...@@neilbeaton9498
This is a great, concise video! Thank you for providing this clip! It makes me want to carve out some time to go watch the full debate.
Did people forget that Christian were the ones who pioneered modern science.
Another great video! I really enjoy your content! Thank you for all the work you put into them! It’s appreciated!
Yesterday, I purchased your documentary and watched most of it. You’ve created a fantastic tool to not only help lead people to Christianity, but also strengthen one’s faith. Thanks for all the great sources, interviews and solid evidence for the only faith that explains it all!
Glad to see you helped the christian dream of earning money from your stupidity.
Thanks for this comment, I did not know there was a documentary
I’m new here..what’s the name of the documentary?
Remember there is no evidence only faith. So no proof at all then
@@johndixon5122 What do you consider evidence, and do you use the same standards when it comes to your own beliefs?
It is a must that we Christian study apologetics, because if anybody tries to prove God’s existence is non factual you’ll be able to peovide hem with the truth easier.
Thank you for these videos.
You are doing the Lord's work my friend. Continue sharing this knowledge so others can come to the truth and know Jesus.
Repent to Allah if you want the truth....
yes ..there are many competing beliefs..I do not by any religions thought up by my fellow human..amen@@peaceandfood7952
What's gods work, is it giving aids to babies or other terrible diseases, this all powerful god if it existed is a sadist and mass murder so why would anyone worship it, only out of fear.
This is what the Bible says about creation:
The Bible states in the beginning, God created the heavens on the Earth; Edwin Hubbles, discovery of the red shift demonstrates the universe had beginning: evidence supports the Bible.
The Bible states God stretched out the heavens like a garment; astronomical observations confirm the universe is expanding ever more rapidly every moment: evidence confirms the Bible.
The Bible states God created all living things; fossil evidence shows the sudden appearance of life forms with no ancestral forms, thus eliminating evolution: science confirms the Bible.
The Bible states sin entered the world, and through that, death; the fossil record shows the extinction of over 90% of all life forms that ever existed on earth: evidence supports the Bible.
The Bible states that through sin corruption entered the universe; the second law of thermodynamics states the universe is descending to a low, common level of energy (it being understood the universe is a close system, to avoid argument): evidence supports the Bible.
The Bible states the Waters were gathered together in one place and the dry land appeared; geologist have determined there was once one giant continent on the earth and one giant ocean: evidence supports the Bible.
The Bible states the mountains were thrust up, and the valleys were cast down; plate tectonics demonstrates that collision zones produce mountain ranges and subduction zones produce rift and valleys: evidence supports the Bible.
The Bible states, Jesus Christ created all things; Frederick Hoyle’s discovery of flying tuning lead him to the belief. The universe is the result of a supreme being: science confirms the Bible.
That is what the word of God says. What does Allah say?
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@@andredixon7961 and how do you know that because it's written in the bible guess what what I said is written in the Quran so now there is three possibilities the bible is wrong, the Quran is wrong or they are both wrong...why do you think yours is right?
Not only did I like the content with what Dr. Turek laid out but I also appreciated your take at the end on why people don’t believe in God. It’s so true.
Literally 45 seconds into the video Frank lies. He said on 0:40 that because of the law of thermodynamics, “that sun would have burned out a long time ago”. What evidence does he have that suggests the sun can’t exist for another 7 billion years before it dies? He is full of shit.
But he didn’t have a good argument.
@@jm329 Truth doesn't need to be "argued."
@@justin10292000 That’s what he is doing. That’s what all apologists do.
@@jm329or maybe you didn’t understand it? His argument is logical and coherent. Also it takes more than “argument bad” to disprove his argument.
Dude you suggesting John 3 is perfect. Loved your explanation at the end! Keep doing these man they’re awesome!
Your insight at minute 12:00 is perfect. Great video. God Bless.
For the man with faith, no explanation is necessary. To the man without faith, no explanation is acceptable ..
That doesn't sound as great as you think it does. If a theist needs no explanation then there would be no explanation to give in the first place.
It also says that believers are accepting faith without question. They're not looking for an explanation because they're not questioning it.
@@challengingoldhollywoodmyt2934 We actually do not accept God's faith. We, instead, put our faith in God. We accept God's gift of salvation, but not His faith per se, because He knows us, down to the dirtiest (and dumbest) things we did. But, He still loves us.
Just started watching your videos and your commentary on top of the excellent video clips are top notch. Keep up the great work!
Dude is deliberately leaving things out. Matter appears out of nothing all the time. It happens at the event horizon near black homes all the time. It also happens so often in regular space that scientists are saying it's proof of the 4th spacial dimension.
You have a great channel here brother. I love what you do here.
Enjoyed the video. Only recently found your channel. I appreciated your comments at the end of the video, about why some reject God or even the existence of "a God".
Just dropping into the comment sections of a lot of videos about God and the Christian faith, I see so many comments from "believers" that are so full of vitriol and so morally high handed and dogmatic that if I weren't already a believer I certainly wouldnt be drawn to faith in God from their responses.
As believers we are supposed to be the salt of the earth, long-suffering, loving, patient, kind... not vindictive, spiteful, having a "you'll get yours in the end!" attitude towards non-believers. How is that helpful to grow the Kingdom? Which is by the way our mission. Blessings. Peace.
"The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge.They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them. Yet their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world. In the heavens God has pitched a tent for the sun."
-Psalm 19:1-4
*18:1-4
Before the Jewish Yahwe came along, who was getting the credit for the heavens then? One of the thousands of gods who came before or were around the same time?
I love Jesus and Jesus loves you
Thanks! Love you both!
Me too
Amen! love him with all your heart soul, mind and strength, and then Jesus will never leave you!
Jesus is BOSS, don't allow anyone or anything to try and steal away those fruits...Peace + Love...
@@In_Paradiso58 you’ve gotta love the lord, with all your mind that means you’re gonna know the Bible and do it !!
Wow, thank you so much. What you says was so powerful. I pray that many people saw it because that touched me and was really encouraging to see.
What you say at the end about reading the book of John was spot on… as a Christian who has walked with the Lord for 40 years, I just went through the book of John again this year through Bible Study Fellowship and my faith and trust in Christ has a new vibrancy and life that was missing 9 months ago. The Word of God is living and amazing. Thanks for making these videos - they encourage my faith! ❤
I can't get enough of your channel. I love your heart, your motives, and attitude. I even have my kids watch with me. They like this channel, too. Keep it up! ❤
Yet that in this video he is teaching against the Bible.
What? In the Bible they don't talk of an actual "Big Bang." They speak of In the Beginning there was Nothing, and God said Let there Be Light!....Boom, a Big Bang! The bible says it took him 7 Days, not that anyone alive Knows how Long a Day in the Lord is, is His One day = to a week, a month, a year, a century, a Millennium ? We have no clue but my bets are that is far More than 24 hours!! @@jannaswanson271
Blah blah blah
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“And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; And the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest: And they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, And they shall be changed: But thou art the same, And thy years shall not fail.”
Hebrews 1:10-12 KJV
Good video. I appreciate youre monologue at the end.
Good videos bro keep up the work you will hit the 1 million hopefully once
Whoa. THAT was awesome! Praise the Lord! Glory to God!
Religion is a primitive attempt at trying to explain the science. I guess from your comment and being on this website you think your christian god is the only one and if you don't believe you will end up in hell. What about all the other gods that their followers claim exactly the same thing. who is right, and don't forget according to religious people if you chose wrong you end up in hall agin. It's laughable really that which god you believe in is mostly an uncontrolled by the believer it is just where you were born and what your parents and neighbours believe. I prefer not to believe in an invisible magic pixie of any kind. Humans would be a lot better off without the god rubbish.
BS
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How do you know someone beats to a slightly slower drum? Is a simpleton? Easily manipulated?
Read above.
@@johnfleet1854It is sad that in 2023 there is still debate about fairytales. 🤦🏻♂️
Science was never intended to disprove God, the opposite actually it's supposed to help us understand what God did.
I love this ❣️
Science is agnostic about God. It lets people make their own convulsion.
It hasn’t done so tho. Quite the opposite.
That's text book question begging. Why would you assume God did it? What is His signature? His maker's mark? How would you know if things *weren't* put in motion by a creator?
@@drumrnva because why would it exist in the first place? It just would never exist. Take God out of the picture and you would never have anything, that could even begin to exist. Nothingness would be there, which is the result of nothing. 0 equals 0.
Our awareness of nothing and something itself is an indicator, that there is higher intelligence and power, because if there always was "a something", we could never think about "nothing". And if we think about nothing we say "then why did something happen?" Because if you try to think of something that never existed, you will always put it together by something that actually exists. But with "nothing" it's different, actually thinking about "nothing" is really scary. Why? Because you can think away everything around you, but you can't think away yourself, if you try it feels like getting lost. And that's what it is actually. If you believe in nothing as your creator, you will be in the presence of your creator for eternity, Jesus called it "outer darkness".
With free will you decide where you go. With Jesus (love) or with darkness.
Thank you Sir!!! This is powerful, precise, practical and poignant! Thank you so much! I appreciate your heart, your approach and your ministry so much! The Lord is using you and I encourage you to rise above and transcend every obstacle, all the friction and any resistance! Philippians 4:4, 13, 19
Great video!
Great analysis as always. Keep these videos coming.
I simply don’t have enough faith to be an atheist.
Yawn.
Oh thats clever! Welldone!!
@@paulbeardsley4095sorry to bore you. We all have the same evidence, we just choose to interpret it differently. I hope you come to the saving knowledge of Jesus, your Creator and Savior, in your life. There is strong evidence he is who he claimed he was. You will find him if you seek him. Keep seeking, my friend.
Anybody with a brain and a heart doesn't have enough faith to be a hopeless atheist.
I simply have to many brain cells to believe in God.
Well said brother, Our Heavenly Father wants us to know Him and develop that relationship with Him.
That was a great video, your comments on the end really took that up a gear. God bless.
speaking to your remarks around 12:00 on many studies showing that "a bad understanding of who God is, is tied to one's unwillingness to believe" - the Scripture takes a different view, stating that man has no excuse because the law of God is written on his heart, thus he suppresses the truth of God in his intentional unrightousness
so it is not a misunderstanding or a mischaracterisation of God that repels fallen man, but man's own nature which causes him to mischaracterise God and thus give him reason to flee from the Light
tl;dr rebels by nature can do nothing but rebel
And therefore we have to be born again through the Holy Spirit and have our worldly nature changed into God‘s.
No one is immune to God.
Following Rene Descartes meditation
Category 1: Minds
I exist and I am a mind. Therefore Minds exist.
Category 2: Matter
I have feelings. These feelings originate from sensors in what I call my body. The sensors are receptive to stimulation from events created from within my body and from events created from outside my body. The stuff that bring about these events I shall categorise as matter. Thus my body is also made of matter. Therefore Matter exists.
Category 3: Space
My body needs space and matter in general needs space. Matter can exist only in space. Therefore space must exist.
Category 4: Time
My body needs time to change and matter in general needs time for change. Matter can change only in time. Therefore time must exist.
From the above observation I conclude that these 4 categories permeate each other and exist equally with none more abstract or less abstract than another.
Now to the question of the origin of these categories
Could it be that any one or more of these categories can be made from any one or more of the remaining categories? Could these categories transform from one to another?
Matter needs space and time for its existence, therefore without space and time matter will not exist as such matter could not have been the origin of space and time.
From physics it has been observed that space and time can give rise to matter spontaneously. As such matter maybe a result of a localised change to space and time.
So then could space and time be the origin of everything else?
Again from the theory of the Big Bang all space, time and matter originated from this singular event. Therefore space and time could not alone have brought about the other categories.
Since the big bang was an event, could it be that all things are made from events?
Where there is space, time and matter there is always an event.
There can be no space , time or matter without events.
In an instant all of space and the matter is nothing more or nothing less than a set of events. So then space, time and matter is one and the same as a set of simultaneous events from one instant to the next.
From this observation the 4 categories can be reduced to 2 categories
Category 1 : Minds
Category 2 : Events
Now then can minds exist without events. We know that simultaneous events give rise to feeling in minds. We know from special relativity simultaneous events cannot give rise to anything physical or material. Therefore feelings cannot be physical or material. Now as feelings are a part of minds we must conclude minds are not physical.
Now can the mind exist without feelings OR does feelings create the mind, that is one and the same as the mind?
If feeling create the mind then as feelings are created by events then space, time and matter which we have concluded is the same as events, must also have feeling and thus be one and the same as a mind.
Thus we would need to conclude a rock has a mind or is part of a mind to the same extent that my brain is a mind or is part of a mind.
This conclusion is not palatable as such let’s consider the OTHER alternative
Now if a mind can exist without feeling then we also know that the mind can create events. (e.g throw a rock, move a finger)
So then given that the mind can create events then the big bang (The Event) could have originated from The Mind in order to evoke feelings in other minds.
These other minds may have also been created by The Mind.
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Wow… thank you for this. Your words about a bad belief and poor view of God really speaks volumes! Thank you and God Bless!
My friend died before he could over come his pride. For ten years I would bring a different argument scientifically concerning the validity of God, he argued his way around it. He had a science degree from a university here in Canada. But one year he could not argue against my point. I asked him if he was ready to believe? He said, no. Then sadly I realized the baggage he carried was so big that his pride stopped him. I pray that you can rise above pride and disbelief and consider a God who can redeem your soul unto him by grace found in Christ.
I can relate to this. There’s a certain pain in wanting to believe in something, knowing it wholeheartedly COULD be true, but still ‘KNOWING’ it isn’t. To a logical man, religion is extremely contradicting.
I guess age and wisdom cuts through conflictions. We all need hope and a idea that life means something which leads to a rewarding end. Jesus, he provides a way to have hope through death itself. If your talking a corporate religion of course you could feel let down. It is your faith, what you personally hold that counts. If we knew everything, what would our God be, science and religion? Faith a fearful apprehension that we are finite and there is a source of the infinite. Jesus the Christ still lives and his Spirit over looks our doings. Focus on JESUS and life can no matter what come back together. He can love you without derision. Trust him.
@@TheBigFightShirtyou aren’t logical if you think a cell and the universe create itself.. or are createe because of time or randomness in an entropic universe
@@jakeschwartz2514 In that regard most will say we don’t know, but they don’t support God of the Gaps.
@@Robert-ul6tm Pride? Of course not, he was just far more intelligent than you are.
Excellent point at the end. I have a friend the grew up going to Christian school most his life, not because he came from a Christian family, but because his parents wanted him to go to a private school for safety. He has heard the Gospel dozens of times, he had to read the Bible and learn about the scriptures origins as part of his mandatory Bible classes. He’s heard all the scientific evidence for God and creation. Even with all that background he thoroughly rejects God. Why? Partly because of the witness of other kids that claimed to be Christians that partied, did drugs, and slept around. Partly because he had a personal tragedy and God did not fix it when his Christian friends cried out to God about it. I don’t know for a fact that he himself cried out to God for help, but I couldn’t imagine him not given the circumstances.
The thing is, he doesn’t want God. His reasons for rejecting God are just excuses for the actual fact that he just doesn’t want God.
Cool story. Nice how you know better than he does what his reasons are; that he just doesn't want god.
It's almost comical how theists just can't accept that some people just find the arguments for god lacking, and instead assume they blame god for a traumatic experience, or love their life of sin.
What I WANT is irrelevant. I cannot wish an argument to be convincing, and have it be so.
I remained a Christian through my trauma (albeit relatively mild). My morality has not become worse since I "gave in to sin." Indeed, I recognized flaws in my faith based morality.
I remained a Christian when I became convinced that the Earth is old, and a couple years later convinced of evolution. So it wasn't science either.
I literally cried, repeatedly, for the first time in a decade as a grown man when I was losing my faith.
It's not the easy way out as theists like to portray.
I guess not for you but not everyone is the same
OMG
" Scientific evidence for God "
There is none
You are talking absolute nonsense
Tells us about this scientific evidence, The world needs to know, Scientific proof that God exists, It's amazing!
.........And also BS
You are insane
He loves sin. That’s the culprit of his rejection.
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Oh does he
Typical Christian to accuse others without any evidence at all
You don't know what kind of person he is
Atheists tend to have the highest moral standards
Non secular countries have the least crime
In Christian countries the prisons are full of Christian criminals
Almost zero atheists
Atheists care about everyone regardless of their belief
But Christians believe they are superior despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary
You think you have the right to judge anyone
In this case you are making the assumption that he is a sinner
You have no evidence at all that this is true
.....You are quite evil and vile
If there is a heaven then you have no hope of getting in , To bear false witness is a heinous sin
One of the worst things a person can do , According to man and God
If there is a hell, that is definitely where you belong
You are just evil
God is the everything. No one in the Old Testament had any of the scientific evidence we have today, and still some believed and some didn’t. That will never change. Even after Jesus comes again people will still choose to fight Him.
Your content is so important and has helped me immensely when discussing my faith with non-Christians. I would LOVE IT if you could curate a scientific book list of your favorites pointing to the logical existence of God and the irrefutability of Christ's resurrection. Thank you for your consideration and for spreading the gospel to the world so intelligently! I share your channel with everyone :)
God’s Undertaker: Has Science Buried God by John Lennox is a great book that details the scientific arguments for God. He goes into greater detail on many of the ideas presented in this video.
@@N4t1v3T3x4n awesome, thanks!
That’s taking it to far… yes evidence must point to God but the idea that God came on earth to be killed by his own creation so that he can forgive us is ridiculous. It does not befit God’s majesty to become a human and eat and sleep. He is far above what you associate with him. Your God and my God is one. No partners. No sons and roommates. That came from the Roman Empire.
@@user-es8jm2nf5e The Bible, God's inspired Word to mankind, tells about the supernatural rebellion that occurred in the unseen realm (AKA heaven) and how that rebellion came to earth and corrupted it. A Redeemer was promised to destroy the works of evil. That Redeemer came and with His perfect life demonstrated God's goodness and with His shed blood, He made the perfect and eternal sacrifice for all sins for all time and only by an act of faith in the work of Jesus on the cross and His resurrection from the dead can a person's moral failures be atoned for. Jesus said, "it is finished" as His last words on the cross, meaning that the stain of sin is covered. When He returns to earth, and after His millennial reign, all evil will be vanquished forever, and the perfection of creation will be restored completely. Without a knowledge of the Bible and God's ways, we are in darkness to all these matters. Let God be God. Get to know Him ON HIS TERMS. Then you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. Every person alive fears death. Why? It's a frightening concept because we were created to live forever in a perfect world. When sin entered the world, death came to all people. Knowing Jesus, living for Him, having His promise of eternal life after this one--no more fear of death. The peace of having one's life reconciled to God, there is no better peace.
@@N4t1v3T3x4n As if John Lennox had anything sensible to say
"Science is the how. Religion is the why." Fr. Georges Lemaitre. When asked how he could meld science with his faith and not confuse the two.
Genesis already explained this to us, all it ever took was God's voice to set things in motion.
Science has only been giving us a detailed explanation the prophets already knew. Science has strengthened my beliefs in God.
Well done. Thank you. 😎👍
Thank you for your closing statements they are the truth
I always loved the 'Big Bang not God' argument. All you need to ask is 'cause and effect.' Christians are ahead of these people still focused on what happened and still not caring about how or why it happened.
Thank you for blowing my simple mind. That was awesome. 🙌 praise the Lord for giving us such knowledge
✝️🛐💟
religion is a primitive attempt at trying to explain the science. I guess from your comment and being on this website you think your christian god is the only one and if you don't believe you will end up in hell. What about all the other gods that their followers claim exactly the same thing. who is right, and don't forget according to religious people if you chose wrong you end up in hall agin. It's laughable really that which god you believe in is mostly an uncontrolled by the believer it is just where you were born and what your parents and neighbours believe. I prefer not to believe in an invisible magic pixie of any kind. Humans would be a lot better off without the god rubbish.
Outstanding presentation. I would also suggest to research archeology, specifically biblical dig site's!
The fact that this guy knows the difference between micro- and macroevolution tells me he's done extensive research into every side of this "evolution" subject. Jesus is KING.
The only way to quantify nothing is to specify its relationship to something.
Given that nothing is always dependent on something, one can't say that nothing was the cause of something.
This is nicely reasoned. I agree with your analysis and congratulate you for it's brevity and wit! I would add that it begs the question (and I won't ask you to congratulate me for brevity here), if you set out to quantify nothing, you are embarking on a kind of metaphorical wild goose chase, because how can you even begin to quantify something that by it's apparent de facto definition has no qualities or quantity associated with it.
Another way of putting it might be to say that the whole concept of nothingness is paradoxical, to the point of absurdity, because nothingness in itself is a quality, and so, not nothing i.e. the quality of nothingness is something in itself.
It's a self defeating proposition.
I think the inevitable, inescapable conclusion of this line of inquiry is that, whether we like it or not, we are more or less stuck with "is-ness". We are immersed in "something-ness" for better or worse. Some have accused me of being childish, and I imagine I open myself up to that charge again here, but it is what it is.
Offered sincerely and without any ironic intent!
@@geoffschnoogs6888 stunning refutation, full of facts, and unimpeachable science, bravo, way to explain how he is wrong
What evidence do you have that there has ever been "nothing"?
@@wbmstr24 1. There is no reason to believe there has ever been 'nothing". 2. No one except theists are claiming that "something came from nothing". 3. Our ignorance will never be evidence for any god.
simple logic. if there is nothing but nature and material, matter, energy, none of them have the ability to come into being on their own. time, space and matter, all have to be brought in to being at the same time.@@flashoftruth
Dr Turek is awesome. I love him.
Great show.
I like your arguments. What are your thoughts though on the greater anthropic principle for the fine tuning of the cosmological constants. Also leonard susskinds argument for spontaneous dropping of entropy due to quantum probalistic fluctuations?
The only channel I can recommend everyone ❤
Thanks brother!
Great wrap up to Dr. Turek's talk. Thank you for sharing the gospel with those that are seeking!
Love your content bro GOD is great always AMEN love y'all 🙏🙏🙏😊
Truth doesn't take sides or play games and it won't change. It's dependable all we have to do is seek it and embrace it.
Love Frank Turek, and love this channel. Have you made a video about your testimony and how you came to Christ? I’d love to hear that.
Thank you! Yes, I have a video titled: Why I started this channel
Wow, this guy just said at the end of the video a challenge I shared with my son. He's dead on with his challenge well spoken.
They leave out that The One Almightiest spoke and that was the Big Bang, the authority, the power of God.
Because it’s not true.
Well explained by Dr. Turek. and the commentary by you was heartfelt and true.
I’m new to this channel. I’m looking forward to more content like this.
Very well done!
During the middle ages the church was the largest supporter of science.
It's painful to see modern science reject the greatness God gave us to learn
Sound has to have three properties in order to happen, something to make the sound, something for the sound to travel through and something to pick it up. If there was a big bang, what picked up the sound and what did it go through?
This is really faithbuilding. Thanks for sharing. I'm surprised so many people don't think about where everything came from/originated.
If you choose to accept it at face value, then fine, but you should know a lot of what Turek says is just not true or misrepresented. Turek starts with the conclusion that god is real and works backwards. That is not how you honestly investigate the world.
A lot of very dedicated and intelligent people are looking at exactly how the universe began, its one of the reasons the James Webb Telescope was sent into space.
@@JP-je6jg The foundational laws of Science - the First and Second Law of Thermodynamics contradict naturalism and Darwinian evolution.
@@oot007 I'd love for you to explain to me how?
@@JP-je6jg First Law of Thermodynamics - Matter and Energy cannot be created or destroyed
Second Law of thermodynamics - Entropy always increases
The foundational laws of Science can be seen in action every day and have NEVER been contradicted.
Irrefutable fact. This is now a purely logical argument.
As the universe cannot create itself, where did all the matter and energy in the universe come from?
2nd law - Entropy always increases, i.e- disorder increases over time - buildings, animals, people, trees, cars etc deteriorates over time. Naturalism and Darwinian evolution states that chemicals/substances interacted with each other to create life by itself and evolved which is a violation of the 2nd law. This has never been observed in the real world, never observed in labs.
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When my atheist friends asked me the question “if God exists where is God then” I responded with the following. If you go to a yard sale and find this amazing masterpiece of a painting. You can look at it you can obliviously tell someone painted it. You can study it all you want and it will lead you to a painter. Now someone else looks at that painting who has knows art may see the techniques used matches other paintings and will tell you who the creator is. That is the same for God and the universe. When you are born you are born into Gods canvas. You can spend your entire life studying the universe and may come to the conclusion that the universe has a creator. But unless you know (art) in this case scriptures you won’t be able to determine the creator. Many scientist study the universe and don’t believe in God. Why? Because they look outward to define their existence when they should look inward to define existence. So where is God? God is within you… you just have to want to look.
That's when jesus comes out and gives both u guys a high five and a beer. :P Lmao jk but wise words
So if we look at scripture and find out that some of the stories about what God supposedly did could not have happened because they don’t match the evidence that we find… this means that the abrahamic God can not be the creator who created us, right?
It’s just like a painting of a famous painter that turns out to be a forgery.
@@ramigilneas9274 IF that were to even happen, how do you discredit the endless amount of proof that already exists?
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Almost all of the stories in the Bible fall into one of two categories.
1. unproven stories.
2. disproven stories.
And what proof are you talking about?
Not one word of the bible has been disproven.
Brilliant as always. I have read and highly recommend his book " I don't have enough faith to be an Atheist". This is all in there.
Have you also read the errors (often called "logical fallacies") of each of Turek's arguments. He's not using unique arguments, they're in most cases extremely old arguments, and most of the time we've known their errors for over a hundred years. Yet they're all Turek has. So nobody should be convinced of a god (and that non-belief doesn't involve faith even a little bit).
@majm9309 A lot of apologists do seem to love that title, don't t?
Maybe I'll write a book called I Don't Hate God Enough To Be A Christian.
Fantastic presentation. Thank you for posting…
You hit it perfectly. Short, sweet and simple.
But none of these arguments is an argument for God, either the Biblical god or any other. They are only arguments against the Big Bang - and some are obviously wrong, such as the Thermodynamics example which only applies to closed systems and thus excludes the earth. Disproving the Big Bang wouldn't go one step toward proving a god, much less a specific one like the Jewish or Christian god.
Great video thanks for sharing keep spreading the good word😊
Good word? Have you read revelations?
I read a book some years back that was pretty interesting. It was called "Where is God?" by Fred Heeran. He "interviews" many of the great scientific minds, through their own statements.
It should be a law to see this video,
Especially the closing minutes, WHY ISNT THIS VIRAL!! The world needs this! try and repost this daily it can only help🙏🏻
I agree, people should see how ignorant, dishonest and gullible Christians are and this is perfect example of that.
I'm glad I found this, these things need to be said. To bad far too many aren't seeking the info out. I will also add I always found it funny growing up in a rough area of Chicago the hardest of people and the staunchest atheists always seem to cry out for God when their time comes
This seems to be the blanket believers go to. I've been to a few wars. I've seen alot of death....Most people die in immeasurable pain and the panic of that is all there is. I'm an atheist but I'd never rob the dying of a prayer, certainly not in the same way you feel so brazen in your unsubstanciated bull shit that people who do not believe look for god on our death beds. What a small pathetic human do you have to be to desicrate the memory and belief of the deceased to cannot speak for themselves. Foundation of moral virtue, your religion is not.
For the most part atheists don’t.
LIving in an imaginary world makes it easy to imagine things about atheists.
As a scientist, this is a powerful talk, that people need to see again and again.
God has the universe finely tuned,.
Which god?
What’s your field of science?
And doesn’t the fact that 99% of the universe is NOT habitable to humans mean it’s NOT fine tuned?
@@MiltonMoJunctionthe one and only God. You can read about him in the Bible
@@DM-dk7jsearth is fine tuned the way earth reacts with its surroundings is fine tuned for life to exist on earth . Life on earth is fine tuned .
I guess every other religion would say the same about their god and their religious books, so nothing proved. Apart from that the bible is basically a collection of fairy stories most of which are not true, there was no great flood, there was exodus from Egypt and mosses did not lead anyone on this march. There is no evidence for the parting of the red sea, even genesis had the incorrect order of creation, and by the way that book was supposed to be a poem not a description of the beginning.@@hm-tr2lh
His cereal analogy was amazing. ✝️
Good point for deistic view. No answer about which God or if it even knows we exist.
A brilliant case for God is that the Spirit lives in me and I feel Him dwelling in me.
Hallelujah, Maranatha
A brilliant case for no god is the wars, poverty, disease that has plagued mankind the world over for millennia, and continues to this day, without one iota of intervention from our so-called loving god. P.s Are you sure your not just suffering from heart burn?
Your delusions are not a case for anything other than you're deluded.
@@utube1818 People forget that the devil is real, too. Pick a side. I choose God.
Ciao
@@Diana-xm1dm Isn't god supposed to be all-powerful? So why hasn't he banished the devil? It's puzzling that someone so mighty can't handle just one little devil.
@@utube1818 Absolutely God is all powerful, and He is a jealous God. And, He only loves those that love Him back.
“Non-believers”, atheists, haters, doubters, whatever we want to call them, don’t accept the simplicity of our arguments and that shouldn’t discourage us from engaging with them!…”where’s your evidence for 🫵🏾 your God?”…It’s simple, my friend…just go outside and look around, the evidence is all around us…
OK, I'll take a trip to my local children's cancer ward.
@@richardgregory3684 Absolutely…The amazing work being done by the people giving their lives to care for those children will certainly humble you and warm your heart, my friend! We’ve lost our understanding of what’s truly valuable in recent generations, our children should always be most important…now, we hear more and more stories about people wishing they never had them (people actually @b0rting them) or abusing and neglecting them, it’s disgusting…I hope you actually care about real children and aren’t just trying to be cute and make a ridiculous argument on the internet because what you said is real, those kids need people like you and me to put them first and do everything in our power to care for them!
@@RoadBloc85Why doesn't God just cure the children of cancer,?
@@RoadBloc85his point was, you’re picking and choosing what is and isn’t evidence for god.
You think pretty blue skies and green grass is evidence of god, but ignore that this same god allows children to die of cancer. You refuse to acknowledge that evidence AGAINST.
@@nitsujismfReE w!lL, dUh!
The debate took place about 13 years ago. I hope Frank has since improved his knowledge of science, as there were flaws in his arguments back then.
Thanks!
Thanks James!
I love your channel brother🙌
This has become one of the most important channels on CZcams. Great job! Keep it up.
Important if you think feeding fallacies to the gullible is important.
Scientific explanations for the universe are the ultimate fairy tale. Great commentary at the end.
I have a few questions. If "Someone created something out of nothing" how did that someone come to be? If the rules of creation apply to this universe then that should mean that god has a creator and so on. If god doesn't require a creator then why should the universe require a creator as well? To me, the argument about something coming from nothing can be used for both a god and a universe because how did either come to be? If god can come into existence on his own then there should be no problem with a universe coming into existence on its own.
The issue with atheism. And it applies to all of us really, is that they refuse to want to die to self when they submit to following the "sky daddy" (God). Like you said, they have a very distorted view on God, especially of the old testament..