An Answer To Minecraft’s Inventory Issues?
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After tackling Minecraft's inventory issues head on, I have a proposed solution to solve the inventory management woes.
Edited by and collaborated with @LizardOfOz
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0:00 Intro
0:37 The Heart Of The Issue
1:18 A Great Solution?
2:06 Complimenting Systems
2:57 Shulker Box Power
3:49 A New GUI
4:40 Variants & Blocks
5:34 Blocks Wheel
6:21 Tools & Weapons
7:33 Advanced Possibilities
8:35 One More Button!
9:40 Closing Thoughts
#minecraftideas #minecraft #inventoryupdate - Hry
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it's in two weeks? dang, time flies so fast that I think the wild update still just released and is completely new.
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@@teenspider two week*
I've always thought that a "Pick Tool" command in the same vein as "Pick Block" would be really sweet. Especially in the new era of added functionality to the hoes and other tools. Imagine looking at a log block on a tree, hitting the "Pick Tool" button, and getting an axe in your hand.
God that’d be so convenient
Terraria does this and it's amazing, you hold shift to auto select the right tool
I have wanted this for years! Button 5/4 on the mouse (side buttons) would be perfect.
@@David_538 not everyone has those.
@@walmarp I know, I'm just saying
I think the "R" key is rather fitting for this. It's right next to "E" for inventory, and is on the same line as "Q".
Noooo, I used R key for the hotbar 9th slot.
And yes, I use number keys for hotbar, not my mouse wheel. 1 to 8 and emergency hottestbar R button. Most of the time for rockets, endedpearl or foods
I use R for sprint
Then you guys can place it at 9 or ctrl :*)
@@octobsession3061 As you can change the hotkeys, this should have no bearing on it being defaulted to R.
What if in the crafting guide, you could "lock" certain items to always appear near the start of the list? It would save a lot of time sorting through pages or the searchbar to find dispensers etc.
So a favorite's menu in the crafting book.
That's great.
@@redgeoblaze3752 Honestly it would be so good. I hate having to search for the items from scratch everytime
Similar to JEI's bookmark system right?
grindstone. dispenser.
Favorite Recipes, you mean?
Brilliant ideas! They make the game feel extremely streamlined, without being too outlandish. They actually expand on Minecraft's inventory features in the best way I've ever seen anybody come up with!
This is magnificent. It's so vanilla, as well... Genius. I wholeheartedly hope Mojang introduce this or something very similar.
To be fair, the second part of it would take a lot of TAG rebuilding and testing. But it is something that less experienced modders could understand and incorporate
@@iller3 let's not act like Minecraft Mojang doesn't have the resources to do that though lol. I thought the same thing but then I remembered it's a multi billion dollar company,
@@iller3 your forgetting they are stupid enough they couldn't add a 2 pixel creature because it's not realistic and make the frogs eat magma cubes which would be 1,000 in degrees in farheinhiet or Celsius :|
@@TechMorePayLess Mojang doesn't want to get sued/bad press, they have not been the same since the parrot cookie incident
@@virivren parrots are most annoying and useless mob they added too just like real life pet birds. Just to spite mojang now I made any mangrove biomes inhospitable by setting it on fire and taking all the water away and adding lighting rods too ;)
Even if it's minor, an inventory update would be nice.
it’s major
I feel like it should be one of the small updates
Like 1.15
I feel like it could be a bit like 1.15, nothing major but something new with bug fixes
The Variant Blocks Wheel is something that you can test it by yourself. There is mod called Conquest Reforged which brings >12k of blocks with new variant types. So they created variant wheel to creative mode. It gives even more functionality like color pallete. It's really great feature and with your additions it really feels like it would work great on every game mode
I think virtually all of the inventory issues can be solved with only three simple changes:
1. This “Variant Block” quick select GUI wheel with a consistent layout between block types.
2. The ability to set any hotbar slot to refill the selected item until your inventory is out.
3. The ability to combine any stackable items into a random “Pile of Stuff” stack of 64.
There’s also a mod called danks which is similar to his shulker idea
@@Nephelangelo the "pile of stuff" up to 64 random items, that's really what the Bundle is about ;) both useful early game, when you're picking up some random flowers or similar when you're out exploring, but it's actually also pretty useful late game when you're planning out something like a redstone contraption; a shulker with most of the blocks, and quite often *most* of the redstone bits can fit inside one bundle (possibly keeping the dust outside)
@ Shame bundles aren't available in survival.
@@Nephelangelo the pile og stuff is just a bundel and not the issue here.. we are talking about hundrets of blocks..
It's a fantastic idea, I hadn't considered what your previous inventory update would do to the core gameplay experience of exploring and looting. This seems to be the best of both worlds. If it's not implemented via a vanilla update I'd love to see it on vanilla tweaks.
I am trying to make a mod in fabric. This will be my first mod if I get to finish it
@@fracta7 i’d love to see it!
@@fracta7 Really waiting for someone to do this !
Honestly, the smallest but most helpful change would just be to let the pick block key access shulker boxes too.
My exact thoughts!
This is such a simple and elegant solution!
I'm not a fan of the gui solution. It would drive me nuts with all the going back and forth.
Maybe you can also open ender chests and crafting
What is for an extension of that if you would shift and pick block it would choose the tool that would break the block the best.
I like the idea, but the downside would be that the items that might be in the hotbar have to go in the shulker box.
The shulker boxes will be mixed up very quickly, even with items that you don't want to have in there.
6:20 when talking about the tools and weapons selection, my immediate thought was that it needs to be stress-tested. What happens if someone completely fills their inventory with tools/weapons? Does it matter if they are the same tool (same material and enchantments if any) and left unnamed? Would a scroll bar appear or would the list go completely off the screen? Would items that have the same selections be grouped together? I really like that the durability seems to be visible in this selection wheel, as well. That would be really important when working on a big build where you can chew through several of the same tool. Maybe people wouldn't usually have a reason to completely fill their inventory with tools, but stress-tests are more meant for the extremes that people do when goofing around and being curious anyway.
I really like most of these ideas, and it was great how people using controllers and pocket edition were considered. I've tried bedrock edition when playing with some friends, and I found the ease of utilizing the controls really went a long way. It was a major adjustment (for me at least), so it's nice seeing people take it into consideration for the many players who don't get to have the choice of using a keyboard with all our fancy hotkeys and mouse.
exactly my thoughts. I don’t think the weapons menu would work.
There is actually a way for any of the three major devices that Minecraft can be played on to use a keyboard. On consoles, they all have USB ports, plug a keyboard into the back of your Xbox boom easy done. On tablets or phones it requires what's called a jump cable, which is a (usually very short) USB to micro USB, Type C, or Apple converter cord. Theyre slightly hard to find but cheap and such a great help if you want to connect a mouse or keyboard to a tablet/cellular device. Obviously I realize that most people using handheld devices wont want to go that route, and console users will find it a pain, but is is an OPTION, it's available, and that is what's important.
this seems like the perfect soloution, the best I've seen for sure - I hope Mojang is watching...
I definitely think the shulker boxes in your inventory should also be able to effect what recipes you can make from the recipe book. That way you don't have to pull basic resources out or move them around when trying to craft something you do all the time like torches or planks
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Would be nice if it factored in sequential crafting like factorio does so if you had 1 coal and 1 log you'd be able to make torches. I'd be fine with a timer for crafts when doing sequential it would still be very convenient.
crafting dispensers would be so much better
The modded players with their refined storage/applied.
Mwah ha haha, look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power
9:33 there's actually pretty simple fix for this, just have it so middle clicking once brings up a block to your hotbar, holding down middle click gives you the new GUI.
As someone who's played games that do implement middle click a lot and also has a mouse with a merely OK-ish middle button, I think that having it be on the keyboard would be a bit better.
For instance, R is unused and is quite close to the WASD controls the left hand rests on.
that sounds annoyingly slow
It has to be accessible to mobile and controller versions too or Mojang won't do it.
@@mysticalmaid B*drock edition 🤮always ruins everything
@@mysticalmaid Bedrock has a lot of "features" that Java doesn't have. Colored water cauldrons for example, or drowns dropping tridents even if not naturally spawned with them, etc.
This has probably been one of the most elegant and useful inventory ideas I've seen in a while. It's very simple in design but can really revolutionize ease of building. I really hope mojang is still listening to their community here, there are such good ideas that need to get implemented.
Amazing idea. We really need a inventory upgrade and i think the scroll one is amazing and would help out so much with the inventory sorting and would just in general be incredibly intuitive to use after seeing it for one or two times.
Etho would love this since his shulkers are already designed in a way that he could select the shulker with the right palette or category and immediately start building and switching to what he needs.
This is definitely my favorite inventory fix I've seen so far, feels the most like Minecraft while also fixing the issue
This is shockingly similar to an Idea I was coming up with! I would prefer it bring up a hotbar over my current one, and allow me to scroll through it instead of my base hotbar, then replace the current held item with the selected (via scroll or 1- 9 keybind). Well done!
I think I might prefer xisuma's idea, but that is an excellent alternative
Ok, this is really cool, and I think I have some good ideias that solve some of the issues X mentioned in the video
Regarding the customizable groupings mentioned at the end, I believe a good solution would be just using datapacks. Assuming the item groups that set what shows up on the wheel are stored in a json file (or something like that), a datapack would just add a similar file with the new groupings (which would override the originals when necessary). Not officially adding a customizer UI or something like that, which could be overwhelming, but still allowing more experienced players to customize the groupings as they prefer.
For the hotkey, I think using the mouse wheel button is perfect, because it already has a similar function that fits the game really well (pick block) - the selection GUI, then, would only show up when you press the mouse wheel without looking at any blocks... that way, no new button mappings are required.
(after writing this I realized X had the same idea... I don't think backing away is an issue though, the player could just look a bit to the side lol)
Also worth mentioning - this is pretty much exactly how it works in Satisfactory... when you're in build mode with a building selected, holding "e" opens a wheel containing all the other buildings in that "group" (e.g. 1m, 2m and 4m foundations), and you can either select one by moving your mouse and releasing "e", or toggle through them by just pressing "e" repeatedly. There's also a separate wheel for the customizer (regular foundation, concrete foundation, asphalt foundation), and some other wheels in different parts of the game. Maybe there's some other interesting ideas to take from there....
That's great as long as the key bind is reconfigurable... I don't see why it wouldn't be, but I have an extra button on my mouse that would be perfect for this kind of thing
This is exactly how the ItemSwapper mod implemented it lol.
This is a really elegant solution. One of my biggest issues with the current inventory is that you need to dedicate so much space to tools. With this change you could just have a designated tool box. It frees up inventory space and saves time.
Minecraft's tools have the same effect as Animal Crossing's tools pre New Horizons; you want to make sure that you have the tools to do things if they're spontaneous, but not literally everything or else your inventory becomes cluttered.
From just my memory, the tools I generally use are the sword, two pickaxes (silk touch and fortune), a shovel, an axe, a bow/crossbow, an offhand tool (totem, shield, or torch), and a hoe. Counting one for each (even for offhand tools where you might sometimes want to carry multiple, like totems or torch stacks), it's 8 slots, almost a third of your inventory.
While you're not going to use everything, it still sucks when you don't have access to a particular tool that you've made before, and so either you have to do something slower than you could be doing it, or have to go all the way to grab the tool and use it.
I've played with some backpack mods and one of them gives you two extra slots to cycle tools with. It's fantastic.
My one issue with it is that with more space to store more tools, going with certain "playstyles" is less encouraged. Like why choose between an axe/sword/trident or crossbow/bow/firework crossbow or different mutually exclusive enchants for any of the former.. when.. you can just bring *all* of them? In sorta invalidates the idea of mutex enchants and picking a weapon type
This feels a lot like the Dank Storage! I've seen it a lot in Vault Hunters but that mod covers a lot of this which is exciting.
It's a shame that the official Danks mod isn't supported anymore with more recent versions. I am curious what the inventory mod replacement will be in VH 1.18 though! Was definitely thinking of Danks and Backpacks mods that VH uses while watching this and X's last inventory vid.
I think this idea works great and the idea of being able to create custom groups is def a good idea
Also a search ui button would be nice for the inventory imo. While this may seem redundant, I’ve struggled to search through my inventory and chests many a time being unable to spot an item that’s right in front of me, this would also search shulker boxes in your inventory. This button could also be toggleable in the Keybinds section of your options or elsewhere
This is so simple yet so elegant, i really hope they implement something like that
It's an elegant idea, and I love the interactions with shulker boxes. I would absolutely love to have this in the game
This is a huge improvement over most inventory overhaul ideas, I think the middle click would be good, but perhaps a key like R could also work, giving you two options like sprinting. I still think that a new slot for the spyglass would make it usable though.
I already keybind pick block to middle click
@@willmungas8964 Yeah, I believe that is by default, but like X said, you would just have to face the air. But that it why I would suggest two options, like how you can scroll through the hotbar or press a key.
Has to be parity possible though.
Better idea would be implementing a crafting recipe like he said.
@@antibull4869 Its one extra menu
The book part was a kinda different topic.
That variants weel reminds me of Satisfactory. They added something like that as well, and it helped a LOT.
I love this idea! I'm really tempted to crack open Visual Studio and throw together a fabric mod to make this, though there's some small modifications I'd probably make!
Minecraft uses a built in organization system to identify different blocks and items. I won't go into the details for obvious reasons, but perhaps a GUI that implements that existing system? So if you press the interact key while having a block selected (say Cobblestone) it will show any blocks in your inventory that match that type (including shulkers). So it'd show cobblestone, andesite, diorite, stone, stairs, walls, etc that match the block metadata. This also occurs with tools, armor, and certain items like foods.
Though also including a customizable option would be really cool. Perhaps the inclusion of a trinket like item that enables cycling and lets you set up X value of quick swaps? Just a thought!
I would code this, but I don't know how custom Minecraft GUI works
I would make this, but I can't figure out how to draw a GUI lol
If this ever gets made into a mod, it's going right into my "Favourites" list. An amazing idea, with no downsides in sight other than slightly overwhelming new players!
Such a mod might very well happen at some point >_^... I can't promise the exact date tho, we're likely talking months.
@@LizardOfOz Lord Dakhr had a mod that looked similar for creative. Don't have the energy to look it up but you if you're interested, you can look it up
For real
I don't think it would, like was said, new players (like myself) wouldn't necessarily need it and would use menu's as they are until such time they require the additional space.
The Create mod has already done something very similar with its Toolboxes, which are also portable storages with 8 slots.
It goes a bit further by expanding the stack size of each slot to 512, and giving a hotkey to access it if it's placed down nearby and restock once you're done. Maybe not the most Mojang method, but also super nice and decently balances.
This was such a well made video, both conceptwise and editingwise.
This reminds of the game Space Engineers. You can choose one type of block and rotate through its variants. The game has more blocks to add more shapes and stuff, but could be useful in minecraft to scroll through the different forms of each wood, stone, etc variant
I love it!
With the idea of replacing pick-block, you could do it that Ctrl + M-click does the shape wheel and Shift + M-click does the pallet wheel, so you don't have to look away from the build, which especially if you're working inside a dense build would be more helpful.
I also like the idea of being able to configure custom wheels, which would particularly allow for things like redstone components to be set up for quick change in a way that suits the player/use-case.
A better solution to the hopper shulker is to just make it that when a shulker is in your off hand that shulker is given the first priority. So if the shulker is full the items start to go in your inventory. This seems balanced in my opinion.
or instead of shulkers rework bundles for that, and change the amount of stacks they can hold
Could even be both. If you have a shulker in your off hand, only that shulker is considered (even if it's not a dropper shulker). But if your off hand is not a shulker, your stacks are refilled from any dropper shulker in your inventory. That would also allow you to deactivate refilling, by placing any unrelated shulker into your off hand.
The advantage of only ever being able to refill from an off hand shulker is that there would be no confusion as to where the refill items would come from.
Then you'd just place the shulker by accident.
@@gnolfo 2 seconds of punching and that mistake is rectified (unless you happen to place it submerged under the surface of a lava lake).
Yeah, maybe this would need to be accompanied by deactivating the ability to place a shulker from your off hand (you can always just swap hands anyways).
Problem is unless Mojang fix the poorly implemented offhand in Bedrock/MCPE then this isn't a universal solution.
Can't even hold a torch in your offhand on Bedrock, let alone fire a rocket your holding.
The amount of organization in this idea and its presentation is wonderful! I could definitely see this being in the game!
This is perfect! I've been saying for ages it would help inventory a lot if they just made shulkers accessible from the inventory instead of having to place them (but still keep the ability TO place them aswell). Your idea about the wheel is a nice elegant and Minecrafty way to expand the hotbar too, I really love that!
I appreciate your enthusiasm for this topic.
I still think a simple shift+scroll to cycle inventory items into your hotbar vertically would go a long way. But radial menus as you've described are for sure better, even if slightly more involved.
Definitely a great idea. Any update that would allow us to access the contents of shulker boxes without having to put them in the hotbar, place them down, and then break and pick again, will be simply amazing.
There is a mod I really enjoy that lets you right click with your cursor to open your shulker box while viewing your inventory, so its like viewing a chest. Its by far the best improvement possible to inv management
Imagine the reduction in chest monsters!
I love that you keep surfacing this topic! The inventory update is honestly one of the most relevant changes the game could possibly take into consideration after so many years imo as well.
It seems like a lot of games are very afraid of changing old things, or reexamining archaic systems with new modern lenses. I've seen several games have very unpleasant mechanics that are only still around because it's "how things have always been"
This is amazing. it gets everything pointed out in most inventory fix ideas without going against what Mojang wants, it seems simple and easy to use too. You should post it on the Minecraft suggestions reddit and other places to get the maximum amount of exposure because this really is something that could work.
Love the idea. Definitely would need to edit those alternate hotbars.
One thing I really like from Stardew Valley is how you can rotate the rows of your inventory with a key. I wish minecraft had that
Yeah the Quark mod has that, it is really handy, only problem is that it also swaps out your tools and food. Could be nice if you could lock certain rows.
Wow, If Mojang doesn't add this it should be made into a mod.
this as a mod would still be awesome
Lol how do you think he's using and showcasing this without building his own modpack or using one that's already existing?
The main issue with mods is that on vanilla servers they won't be able to access the content of shulker boxes. If it's a vanilla feature, that won't be an issue.
@@baltazard133T it's editing, it says so in the description
Absolutely perfect implementation of a concept. I think the middle button would work best, since already fewer people use it outside creative, and even in creative, the default if you're looking at a block could be that block, with the wheel bringing up the variations available as well, so someone could switch between them by just looking at a similar block. When not looking at a specific block, it would then do variations based on what is selected on the hot bar, and the other set of variations when crouched either way. Simple and easy to use for four potential sets of blocks to switch between.
What also could be a solution, is something i believe the mod quark (correct me if im wrong on this) imploments. Its a simpler idea thats easier to setup. Instead of having you using a inventory just to store things to swap into your hotbar, you could use the inventory as a hotbar itself! With a button press you swap from your current hotbar to another row in your inventory, basically making it so everything in your inventory is decently accesable when needed. You could have a hotbar with all your tools, and another row in your inventory is a hotbar with all your building blocks, potions, shulker boxes, etc.
This allows for quick and easy swapping, but as a dowside you would need to organize your inventory more.
You can also use this, and instead of swapping your entire hotbar with another row of your inventory, you could swap a singulair item in your hotbar with another item in that same collum.
What do you guys think?
I think another good idea is to implement the tab button in Stardew Valley, where you have 4 rows of items and can press tab to switch between all of them.
The issue with a tab button or even any extra button, as xisuma alluded to at the end of this video, is how do you make it work on phones with touch controls. its one of the hardest constraints facing mojang atm. Its already held up the bundels, is a big issue in fixing the inventory problems and I wouldn't be surprised if its also problematic in the combat rework
@@Twitchi I dont think everything needs to be touch (pick block is absent on touch already). Bundles and dual wielding are important mechanic and touch controls deserve them but java already has many many things you can do in inventory that bedrock and touch lack, its not a big deal.
@@UltraAryan10 yeah your right and bedrock (on pc) also has great block placement features that java lacks
I wouldn't be against it but I will say from my personal experience being able to do so in minecraft isn't that game changing. Although I might be just use to using pick block all the time to reduce how often I have to go into my inventory.
For the mod that allows hotbar switching, it's one of the features of Quark mod which happens to be in a lot of modpacks by default.
@@PopeMical It makes the most sense of all suggestions imo. Of course all sensible suggestions will not be too big but Minecraft inventory could really use absolutely anything right now.
For teh advanced possibilities there should definetely be something like that. for the crouch extra function, what determines a "block palette" i think it's something personal that anyone can modify, maybe for someone a palette is composed by 5 blocks that are not even a bit similar
This looks great! Even goes around the screen center like emotes, so it would likely look very vanilla to many people!
Emotes?
@@Hyrum_Graff bedrock edition only
Add a hotkey that when held allows you to scroll between variations of a block, for example birch stairs > acacia stairs and so on, allow this to also swap items out of shulker boxes and bundles to give it a use in survival mode
Fantastic video Xisuma. From a game design philosophy, I think this is brilliant. Love the idea. I think auto filling your hotbar with the item you’ve just been using if it runs out (run out of blocks, tool breaks) etc could also help. Modded does this and it’s incredibly useful!
You can just use the middle mouse button to grab a new stack of whatever block you’re looking at which is barely any effort
@@keeganripley3118 true, I just think the autofill is nice. It’s simple! It just eliminates that extra click (I know it’s only one, it’s not a massive deal, but it’s just a little bit more accessible)
Quick idea. For shulker boxes, maybe you could mouse over them and use the scroll wheel to scroll over different slots and middle click to pull it out. Let click a stack onto a shulker to insert it. Imo solves the annoyance of bundles being sequential only idk
I honeestly really like this, most of the ideas from the previos video didn't feel vanilla enough but this one actually does
That looked well thought put and intuitive, nice work
This actually seems like A Decent Idea that I'm pretty sure could actually be Implemented into the game as A Normal Feature later on down the road
I'm really surprised by how vanilla this feels. Great idea
5:13 the game "Satisfactory" has a fairly simple implementation of this, with the hotbar item selected, press e and it will cycle through other available variants of the block (no need to produce new gui elemnents or placeholders for unavailable types of items). We could have something similar where pressing a keybind would simply cycle through alternative variants of the block type available from inside the inventory, insitu on the same slot on the hotbar.
This is a very interesting idea. It definitely feels more true to the nature of the game than a lot of the previous suggestions, which I had trouble with. It makes the game more fair to builders, while still keeping the adventuring spirit alive with the limited inventory. I think this would be a very useful interface.
I agree we defo need an update to the inventory especially as they keep adding more blocks
This is an extremely vanilla and clever system. Thanks to both Xisuma and Lizard of Oz for coming up with this concept. We can only hope that Mojang will take inspiration from this.
Great idea indeed! Though I think in the case of weapons, tools, etc, I think simply being able to auto switch those depending on the block/mob type makes the most sense.
This is certainly interesting, but I do have a couple concerns. First, as you mentioned, it takes up another button on a gamepad and I'm not sure I like either suggestion for how it would be bound. Second, how would it handle block categories that aren't a set of 8? Say, different wool colors? Leaves? Redstone supplies? Flowers? etc.
I do have a suggestion involving the bundle though. What if the bundle was given a new function? Instead of just storing 64 random jumbled up items, it could store one full hotbar? When you hold it in your offhand and hit the "swap offhand item" key it takes your hotbar and swaps it into the bundle, rather than putting the bundle in your main hand. Then, if you do it again, it would swap the items back out to where they were on your hotbar originally. Of course, if you refill your hotbar before doing that, it would be able to swap the two hotbars back and forth. It effectively doubles the hotbar space without taking a new key or even adding any new GUI players would have to get used to. Plus, since it takes up the offhand and requires rabbit hide (assuming that recipe sticks), it'll be relatively balanced since I know Mojang are worried about that.
If the next update is the inventory update, it'd be the smallest, shortest, and quickest update ever. Maybe they can add more copper items like copper bars, trapdoors and chains, all with their oxidizing variants, and maybe a new village profession.
That might be the first realistic vanilla inventory update proposal I have ever seen. It's not overpowered, it's in keeping with the philosophy that inventory management is an essential part of gameplay, it doesn't overburden players (new or old) while still being a powerful tool that saves time if used correctly.
And the reason why I like it is that that sounds like what I would describe vanilla shulker boxes as, so it fits the game that already exists.
Well done, X.
you could also do it like scrap mechanic and use the rows in your inventory as addicional hotbars, like when you press a butten you switch your hotbar to an other row in your inventory
Can't even express how good this idea is, it solves what always feels like an inconvenience in such a nice way. Radial menus are the path to the future
This is one of the more refined ideas I've seen. Would love to see something like this in vanilla! :D
On controller or mobile, a long press can be used to open the block palette
Nah for mobile they could make you swipe the item from the hotbar to the middle where the wheel appears and you just swipe to what you want
I think virtually all of the inventory issues can be solved with only three simple changes:
1. Xisuma’s “Variant Block” quick select GUI with a consistent layout between types.
2. The ability to set any hotbar slot to refill the selected item until your inventory is out.
3. The ability to combine any stackable items into a random “Pile of Stuff” stack of 64.
If you can have someone create this into a mod, and have it compatible with the "configured" mod, so that way you can easily configure the order of every item wheel GUI and or create one of their own custom item wheel for their own use, other than that, super awesome idea. thanks so much for the video!
The item wheel and a favourite recipes tab have been things I've wanted for a while now - although admittedly, I hadn't linked the dots for the wheel working for block variants as well as tools. That one sounds like a massive benefit.
I'd also like a general search bar that goes through your shulker boxes for you. Kind of like those NEI mod-style inventory menu, where if you click on an item it gives you a stack.
Lizard is such a talented modder, I'm so glad of this collab, hoping u actually realease this as a mod, would be a joy to try
Lizard is hard at work on Inventorio 2.0, which sounds like it's going to be exactly Inventorio but with better compatibility with other mods. So this mod would end up coming after that.
This is an amazing concept
Just a few things, maybe the button should be a hold pick block to account for what was said at the end and so it is easy to add to controllers, and by the looks of it, swapping through tools with that gui may get a bit clumsy if you have many to sort through. Maybe using the scroll wheel instead of moving the mouse for that?
It is actually a brilliant idea. Even the final extra of being able to customize it, although the only customization that I would do is being able to choose the position of the original tools in the GUI (like, choose where the stairs are in the circle, for example). Also, you should also add the list for the potions. But, I think the GUI is good enough by itself, so even just adding this without adding the shulker system or the new shulkers you speak of, would be a huge advantage.
I think that the new shulkers or the skill of taking items from them whitout putting them in the world would take out part of the challenge of managing them. It could simply be an optional gamerule in the world. Is one of those thing that feels that should be on the hand of the player.
Finally, just want to congratulate you, Xisuma. Keep up with the great work you do, I love these videos that open a cool debate about the game! You're an amazing content creator!
I prefer the ideas shown off in this video to the last one, these could be implemented much easier! really hope Minecraft will update the inventory guess we'll see in minecraft live in two weeks 🙏
One thing that could help your inventory from being clogged as much from junk is to make more foliage require specific tools to be mined:
Grass(seeds) would require a hoe
Moss, crimson roots, fungus, flowers ect would require shears
this would make it so you will only get the items you actually want to take.
(of course there is other items than plants but it would still help quite a bit)
Brilliant! You take the "Wait, I might have an idea!" to a whole new level :)!!
This is a wonderful idea! The way it compliments existing systems actually enables the player to make more impactful decisions for gameplay. As mentioned in the opening, the limitations of the inventory provide constraints for the player to navigate; this idea recognizes the constraints and builds a system for the player to evaluate their actions even more. Strategic questions arise like “should I include 2 weapons on my hot bar to be able to quickly switch, or bank on being able to swap fast enough and open up that spot for another useful item?” These decisions are not arbitrary, and leverage the players ability rather than an overpowered game mechanic.
With the consent of the other hermits, it would be really interesting to see how this system plays out in practice. Hermitcraft is already vanilla+, so why not test out such a well thought out idea there?
I definitely think you would have to be able to customize the "block palette." It's a rather arbitrary thing which each builder picks for each of their builds and I think it would be strange if the developers had to set a definite set of nine blocks for each palette.
One feature i would love to see in an inventory update would be a button that lets you see what an item can be used for in crafting. Kind of like JEI
Doesn’t the recipe book already do that?
@@ZaHandle Currently the recipe book does nothing more than gray out items you can't craft. That's different from actively showing the specific recipes an item can be used in.
I think this is a great solution suggestion! I’ve seen a similar GUI in satisfactory, and enjoyed the ease of selecting from the circular menus. My only negative about this solution might be that your internal inventory might get a little jumbled while swapping between items, but if you keep the similar items in separate shulkers, it might not be a problem :)
I was thinking last night about captive-mouse popups for mod and inventory interactions. The shulkers + block variant swapping would be an amazing addition.
I had mostly the same idea after your inventory update video. Instead I would use the bundle, where up to 8 slots can be filled. The player can then scroll through the slots of the bundle the same as the user can make a choice in your wheel. Scrolling feels more intuitive to me than a new mouse-menu. The big benefit would be that the configuration of a set is made by the player. You want a tool wheel? Put 8 tools inside a bundle. You want stone decoration blocks? The player can choose which 8 to group by putting them in the same bundle.
Inventory sorting option is also important to implement.
One mod that addressed the hotbar issue LONG ago was Tinkers' Construct. The Tinkers' Storage Belt allowed you to bind a hotkey to toggle between an additional hotbar.
Huh! Good work on this one Xisuma, I can't think of a lighter touch to so completely solve this problem, and would love to see this in Vanilla
Adding some QoL updates to inventory management would help too, like implementing Inventory/Mouse Tweak mods, sorting, extract/put away like-items from/in chests, scroll wheeling items to/from chests, adding something like old school Barrels from Factorization, etc. I wish Mojang would partly step away from their fear of content feeling too "unlike" Minecraft.
I like the idea of specialized shulkers. But I think they should be harder to craft because they are pretty OP perhaps utilizing echo shards in the crafting recipe. Another reason to explore ancient cities? Anyway I’ll be happy with what ever we get. Love the content Xisuma.
This is a pretty good idea. I think the Vault Hunters skill selector would be pretty useful for the item-type selection because it's scalable (not limited to 8 items) and really easy to select items from when using both a mouse and controller.
Hoping to see someone make a mod that does what you've described, would love to playtest it & try it out myself
I love that I got here so fast, the view count says "no views."
I would love a solution to the inventory problem, and I personally really like the ideas that you throw out here.
I really enjoy this idea for a much needed inventory update! It feels like something that can be implemented easily and effectively and be easy to get used to.
it also seems like something that can keep veteran players who don't want change and those who do happy.
These are good ideas to develop for the future. In my minecraft world I have been using color coded and name tagged shulker boxes to quickly access material goods. I have also been using the peaceful setting during construction hours so that I can free up my main inventory space.
One thing nobody thought before, not even on a mod (I think) is to put a hotkey to swap the hotbar with another row of ordinary inventory. For instance if said hotkey take the bottom row to the hotbar and send the hotbar to top row, you can potentially have 4 hotbars, scrolling throug the inventory slot rows, since they are the same lenght. This could also be a thing to think about when arranging items on the inventory. Also, when searching for a specific item, if you could swap hotbars like this, you would see only 9 items at a time, instead of 36, I think would be much easier to find stuff that way.
The viewing mechanic is what kept the bundles for entering the game as it is hard to implement on touch devices.
It's inevitable that mobile is just going to have to miss out on functionalities eventually. The game cannot be trying to grow and expand and get better if Mobile holds it back from proper quality of life improvements. Mobile will eventually be a matter of mobility sacrificing functionality.
@@squidlytv yeah but that was how mobile was before the better together update. I don't think mojang want to that again. However I do find it annoying that features cannot be added just because of mobile.
@@joshstevens7586 The reality is phones will prevent the game from growing after a certain point. The phone already struggles as is to run the game. At some point, the game will just be too big for it to function reasonably on the phone.
I think it would be pretty cool if you were holding a shulker box and when left clicking it would put a block from inside down instead of doing an attacking action. Maybe have it have a dropper/dispenser selection style. Would make random placement patterns really easy to pull off.
my favorite way to solve inventory issue is to add tools swapping wheel witch put all your tools in one slot and will open a wheel to swap out your tools witch is already implemented in a mod but i forgot the name, because tools take 7 slots in your hotbar, that would be a game-changer update
Interesting idea because you inspired me to thing about something in the middle. Opening inventory with certain keyboard combination that would allow to set the item we click into active hotbar slot. Not as powerful as your idea but less intrusive perhaps. I do like the idea of creating your own block sets to use for builds but I am afraid they will soon become too small or some other problem will arise.
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This can be compared to the Toolboxes feature of the create mod
This perfectly describes the problem and proposes a simple solution that would easily fit the game. Well done!
a work around for the middle click button thing could be that if you already have the block you’re looking at in your hand, or if you just don’t have it at all, then it opens the new. this would make it so then you don’t have to look away every time :)
I understand where you are coming from and with the recognition that as we place blocks from the hotbar, moving items to the hotbar is where the additional time comes from, whether it's from the inventory to the hotbar or shulker boxes/chest, to the inventory and hotbar.
As such, it seems the solution needs to be about reducing that time of getting the block to the hotbar in order to place it, which this solution seems to offer the solution to.
However, often when building with similar blocks or variations of the same block type, we are frequently switching between them.
This solution seems to propose preparing the hotbar with different blocks and having the similar blocks and block variations in our wider inventory.
Generally when building we are blending similar block colours/texutures, or contrasting them, however, the variations in the pallet are often the same blocks being mixed and most of the time we aren't needing more than 9 available slots to build the section of the build we are working on.
In my opinion, this solution seems great for quick one-off/long term switches between items, however, when frequently switching between similar blocks while building the time you save in not having to open the inventory/place a shulker box, is gained back with the constant switching back and forth of the similar blocks.
As a secondary note, I don't feel the access to shulkers from within the inventory itself, feels vanilla or more so survival. From the survival/adventure aspect, it makes sense you would have to place the shulker in order to open it, I feel it would take away from the game, rather than add to.
I do think this would make a great mod that people would find useful, however, in my personal view, I don't believe it is the correct solution to the inventory issues itself.
To add to this, having thought a little more about it, perhaps the solution is not about Mojang adding something, however, instead player preparation.
Often times I find inventory issues in my builds stemming from the fact I have items I need for the build in it, despite not needing them at the current moment in time.
For example, the build I'm currently working on uses 42 different building blocks for the exterior.
Of those 42, 20 are for the first floor, 20 are for the second, and 2 are for the roof.
Of the 20 for the first floor, 9 are built a block out from the main walls, and 2 are only used in the first couple layers of the build.
Of the 20 on the second floor, 11 are built out from the main walls
These can be added to the build after the main walls have been built.
If prepared in advance, I can set up the resources required for the first floor, second floor, roof and extensions separately, prior to building. I can then fill up my hotbar with the varied building blocks for that section of the build, and add the additional stacks of those blocks to the inventory, provided I don't misplace a block, and have to switch to a tool, the only time I need to stop building is when I run out of blocks, and/or complete a section.
Sure there's prep time, however, with shulker boxes, this can be organised while gathering the materials for the build in the first place.