The fact that DB fans try to validate statements from a source that admitted that he was invalid just goes to show how bad their community is, and this is coming from someone who watched DB and grew up with it. Goku fans are wild asf
So you are basically saying the workers who help make dragon ball have the same knowledge as the owner of dragon ball who can't remember something to save his life. Good to know that people can't trust what they know about it's cosmology either
@@christianwhite8877 Koyama was just ignoring the questions and thats why he said he doesn't know about them because hes been getting many messages and people asking him countless questions and he was getting tired of it
@@christianwhite8877🗿🗿. You are talking about the 5d enma realm etc. Bro you talking about koyama stating the 4th dimensional which is hell is beyond concepts of space and time which is outerversal. That means koyama is not referring to the Dimensionality itself. There one example that falls to the same criteria such as the multiverse of DC which is stated to be a 5th dimensional. But its not really 5th dimensional. Lmao idk what are you debunking but its useless😊
Each microcosm in dragon ball is only infinite 5 dimensional (one of the only infinite sized objects in a microcosm from dragon ball is the afterlife. And it's in a higher plain of existence within the microcosm that is above the living world, and nothing in the microcosm from the same plain of existence as the living world is of infinite size) as for what gets the cosmology of dragon ball around 6 to 7 dimensional it's zeno's realm. As for the marvel multiverse it's of a higher dimension than you claim (Dr strange said there are infinite dimensions in the multiverse. There's likely infinite universe's in the multiverse. There's a mirror world in each universe. There's a few dimensions in each universe. Each universe is likely of infinite size, even without bringing out the fact that the universe's in marvel probably have a space time continuum this makes the marvel multiverse easily above 4 dimensional)
@@chrisgoris3794 wtf this and the other debunkers are just scared and gets rebunk every time and the fact they are so afraid to mention the creator name that if they find out they will get themselves humbled in their own discord servers 😂
@@christianwhite8877 man is there another person talking here cuz I didnt say any of what you just siad I just made a troly comment I use to debate and judge i clearly understand judging some of a single bad showing is foolish dont take random comment so seriously just having fun here
that gets invalidated when the man says his statements are not reliable so stating that his wors are true whne he said his words arent is just pathetic
@@Sponge_bob139 i have seen the reasoning and its a shallow argument that disregards the person that made those statements and the context surrounding it, using mental gymnastic to straw Mann his way to some form of coherency
Dragon ball in its entirety lacks the required cosmology to be outerversal. It also lacks hyperversal cosmology, the best it could reach is somewhere in complex multiversal
@@wcom9999 7 layers that expand infinity does not make outerversal outerveral requites MINIMUM of a single set of infinite stacking LAYERS each multivers the cosmology would count as 1 layer. to that goku is a being bount by time and is a mortal not a trancendant being capable of signifigantly (key word there signifigantly) even one of those infinite layers.
i have come to a concesusius that people with db (goku specifically) who think goku could beat certain people or think he is outer are either riding the space monkeys pole or are just delusional.
@wcomment1926 all fiction goes in to good detail explaining why he isn't outer, and considering that people like you think goku can take on the likes of wn wang ling or yogiri puts most of you in the realm of denial
@@1nn3r3V1L fiction🤨. Bros db af Debate with me and u will see u got no arguments to defy the factual Db scaling with evidences . U all goofballs really love the INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE FALLACY
@@wcom9999 Low Outerversal means a character can affect objects/structures with an uncountably infinite number of dimensions (aleph-1), Outerversal means a character can affect objects/structures with additional transcendent layers above baseline uncountable infinity (aleph-2 to aleph-any higher finite number), Outerversal+ means a character can affect objects/structures with an infinite amount of transcendent layers above baseline uncountable infinity (aleph-aleph-0), and High Outerversal means a character can affect objects/structures with a number of dimensions equal to a strongly inaccessible cardinal, which is essentially an infinite set as big compared to other infinite sets as those other infinite sets are compared to finite numbers. the size of the multiverses are said to be infinity EXPANSIVE not EXPANDING. to that 7 multiverses this means it has 7 layers not an infinite number of infite expanding layers. 2. the big part CAN AFFECT goku has no feats that he can SIGNIFIGANTLY affect even a single one of those infinite expanding layers. and before you mention battle of the gods that was a clash of two energys one was not even using half. 3.goku as an individual IS mortal and affected by the flow of time and space goku is not a trancendent being. he tires has lost multiple times downed by hit jiren granola black freaza moro. hell acording to your god toriyama goku doesnt even have the most potental and THAT has been stated canonically half breeds are stronger than full blood saijins.goku fans wank the pole of the least developed shonen character to no end then when proof then when a character comes out that is stronger they move like a mob. and act like a group of karens
@@shahnawazsyed726 an opinion meaning that we cant use it in an objective dialectic analyzing the verse, since opinions are subjective, and have no relevance to cannonisity or objectivity of a work. and you saying i didnt debunk anything intails i didnt counter or point out the flaws in the scale, which as i just explained i definatly did also i said alot more than that so actually watch the video
@@1nn3r3V1L and yet that debunked was literally trash also idc I didn’t ask for him I asked for you to debunked it who am I asking again you no rimuru is overated fodder anos victim and goku victim
@@Sunwukong9988 i am not saying rimiru is the strongest, i am saying that there is no way in hell dragonball has enough cosmology to be considered outer
You claim that rimuru is only galaxy level. yet you think the dragon ball cosmology could even reach hyperversal or higher, you should go back to school you Cleary don't know what you are talking about
The fact that DB fans try to validate statements from a source that admitted that he was invalid just goes to show how bad their community is, and this is coming from someone who watched DB and grew up with it. Goku fans are wild asf
factual in every word
Not all do that, some just admit the truth.
@@afrinsyed1586 yeah, but there are some who don’t
@@Muffin_the_enlightened a way tk if something has a translation error is them just making it again simply or it was just made by some meat rider
@@Muffin_the_enlightened DB fans may be bad, but as a OPM fan. Featherine fans aren’t any better, they are just as wild as others.
It was literally stated that the db workers have the same knowledge as toriyama and are more reliable than akira toriyama who created db
So you are basically saying the workers who help make dragon ball have the same knowledge as the owner of dragon ball who can't remember something to save his life. Good to know that people can't trust what they know about it's cosmology either
@@christianwhite8877 Koyama was just ignoring the questions and thats why he said he doesn't know about them because hes been getting many messages and people asking him countless questions and he was getting tired of it
That doesn't change the fact that dragon ball is only 6 to 7 dimensional at best
@@christianwhite8877🗿🗿.
You are talking about the 5d enma realm etc.
Bro you talking about koyama stating the 4th dimensional which is hell is beyond concepts of space and time which is outerversal.
That means koyama is not referring to the Dimensionality itself.
There one example that falls to the same criteria such as the multiverse of DC which is stated to be a 5th dimensional.
But its not really 5th dimensional.
Lmao idk what are you debunking but its useless😊
Each microcosm in dragon ball is only infinite 5 dimensional (one of the only infinite sized objects in a microcosm from dragon ball is the afterlife. And it's in a higher plain of existence within the microcosm that is above the living world, and nothing in the microcosm from the same plain of existence as the living world is of infinite size) as for what gets the cosmology of dragon ball around 6 to 7 dimensional it's zeno's realm. As for the marvel multiverse it's of a higher dimension than you claim (Dr strange said there are infinite dimensions in the multiverse. There's likely infinite universe's in the multiverse. There's a mirror world in each universe. There's a few dimensions in each universe. Each universe is likely of infinite size, even without bringing out the fact that the universe's in marvel probably have a space time continuum this makes the marvel multiverse easily above 4 dimensional)
song name: cheat code for h*es - shotgun willy
next video, debunking the "cho jigen" thing ?
W debunk
L debunk
@@Sunwukong9988 Goku is needle level fodder
@@thesarcasticartist782 rimuru is stone level
@@thesarcasticartist782 Godzilla is a side walk level
@@Sunwukong9988 idk anything about rimuru but ok
Also foddertama is mosquito level
So that daizenshuu was translation error. Right?
Yes.
@@Permanent_Scalez I see 😯
more so people like using google translate which we all know how INFAMOUS that is.
Bro transcending space and time is just 5D how he said it's outer 💀🙏
This guy:let’s debunk Goku! This guy later: never even debunked it just said that those feats just never happened☠️
never said i didnt the feats never happened, i said they scale no where, which you would know if you watched the video
@@Permanent_Scalez YOU JUST DID TO THE FIRST ONE!
@@Permanent_Scalez and if you don’t know where it scales, I can help you if you’d like.
@@Permanent_Scalez you including guidebook cosmology?
Bro couldn't digest the fact db solos hid favourite verse that caps at building level
Look man, I like Goku. But the Dragon Ball cosmology has already been debunked. Its not infinite as so many people claim.
@@chrisgoris3794 wtf this and the other debunkers are just scared and gets rebunk every time and the fact they are so afraid to mention the creator name that if they find out they will get themselves humbled in their own discord servers 😂
@@azfarali6148or rather they actually use there brains
@@chrisgoris3794 he never debunked anything, all bro said was, “THaT NeVEr HAppENED”
@@chrisgoris3794 he’s a big fan of featherine btw.
I've gotten to the point in my story that each universe is around complex multiversal do to cosmology
Link of story
CZcams keeps deleting my comments when I try to reply
The name of the story is divinetale
It's on wattpad
The reason why I had to say it like that is so CZcams wouldn't delete the comment. Also I don't know how to do links especially on my kindle
W debunk
Those clowns are really desperate to upscale goku to outer just so they can have him have chance against superman ☠️😭
W on God keep Goku fans in they place
He couldnt even keep drip sauce in his place and lost a debate against drip sauce tho
Just because someone lost 1 single debate doesn't automatically mean they are a bad scaler or bad at debating
@@christianwhite8877 man is there another person talking here cuz I didnt say any of what you just siad I just made a troly comment I use to debate and judge i clearly understand judging some of a single bad showing is foolish dont take random comment so seriously just having fun here
What I said wasn't being said to you it was being said to the person who claims to be goku and claims to be able to solo every verse
@@christianwhite8877 my bad then
Drip sauce rebuked koyama statements
that gets invalidated when the man says his statements are not reliable so stating that his wors are true whne he said his words arent is just pathetic
@@Permanent_Scalezjust check the reasoning behind it
@@Sponge_bob139 i have seen the reasoning and its a shallow argument that disregards the person that made those statements and the context surrounding it, using mental gymnastic to straw Mann his way to some form of coherency
Even if it did transcend space and time that would make it 4D not outerversal, these people are kidding themselves
Cap
👌 ok
Dragon ball in its entirety lacks the required cosmology to be outerversal. It also lacks hyperversal cosmology, the best it could reach is somewhere in complex multiversal
@@christianwhite8877kid then debate me on that and prove ur point
@@wcom9999 7 layers that expand infinity does not make outerversal outerveral requites MINIMUM of a single set of infinite stacking LAYERS each multivers the cosmology would count as 1 layer. to that goku is a being bount by time and is a mortal not a trancendant being capable of signifigantly (key word there signifigantly) even one of those infinite layers.
@@1nn3r3V1Lyou're talking to a wall , you're expecting dragon ball fankids to understand how powerscaling work.
Bruhh U make me laugh hard .
Get a single good arguments .
i have come to a concesusius that people with db (goku specifically) who think goku could beat certain people or think he is outer are either riding the space monkeys pole or are just delusional.
@@1nn3r3V1L debate it .
@wcomment1926 all fiction goes in to good detail explaining why he isn't outer, and considering that people like you think goku can take on the likes of wn wang ling or yogiri puts most of you in the realm of denial
@@1nn3r3V1L fiction🤨. Bros db af
Debate with me and u will see u got no arguments to defy the factual Db scaling with evidences .
U all goofballs really love the INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE FALLACY
@@wcom9999 Low Outerversal means a character can affect objects/structures with an uncountably infinite number of dimensions (aleph-1), Outerversal means a character can affect objects/structures with additional transcendent layers above baseline uncountable infinity (aleph-2 to aleph-any higher finite number), Outerversal+ means a character can affect objects/structures with an infinite amount of transcendent layers above baseline uncountable infinity (aleph-aleph-0), and High Outerversal means a character can affect objects/structures with a number of dimensions equal to a strongly inaccessible cardinal, which is essentially an infinite set as big compared to other infinite sets as those other infinite sets are compared to finite numbers. the size of the multiverses are said to be infinity EXPANSIVE not EXPANDING. to that 7 multiverses this means it has 7 layers not an infinite number of infite expanding layers. 2. the big part CAN AFFECT goku has no feats that he can SIGNIFIGANTLY affect even a single one of those infinite expanding layers. and before you mention battle of the gods that was a clash of two energys one was not even using half. 3.goku as an individual IS mortal and affected by the flow of time and space goku is not a trancendent being. he tires has lost multiple times downed by hit jiren granola black freaza moro. hell acording to your god toriyama goku doesnt even have the most potental and THAT has been stated canonically half breeds are stronger than full blood saijins.goku fans wank the pole of the least developed shonen character to no end then when proof then when a character comes out that is stronger they move like a mob. and act like a group of karens
bro didnt debunk shit😂💀
👌 you say this but fail to prove it (ironic isn't it?)
I know you're not laughing lil bro , thinking I'm not seeing you hiding your copium by a laughing emoji ? ☠️😭
@@Permanent_Scalezhe’s right tho, you didn’t even debunk anything all u said was, “iT’S JuST AN Opinion” 🤓
@@Copeharderretardik some people these days just use random emojis for some reason but he actually did say fax tho.
@@shahnawazsyed726 an opinion meaning that we cant use it in an objective dialectic analyzing the verse, since opinions are subjective, and have no relevance to cannonisity or objectivity of a work.
and you saying i didnt debunk anything intails i didnt counter or point out the flaws in the scale, which as i just explained i definatly did
also i said alot more than that so actually watch the video
L debunk
search up dragonball cosmology all fiction gives a FULL on explination as to why it isn't infinite or are you one of the space monkey pole riders
@@1nn3r3V1L and yet that debunked was literally trash also idc I didn’t ask for him I asked for you to debunked it who am I asking again you no rimuru is overated fodder anos victim and goku victim
@@Sunwukong9988 i am not saying rimiru is the strongest, i am saying that there is no way in hell dragonball has enough cosmology to be considered outer
@@1nn3r3V1L Lol and they do lol 😂 while y’all use trash translaters lol
@@1nn3r3V1L Z goku is outer and Dbs goku is high outer
Rimuru best at galaxy cope
You claim that rimuru is only galaxy level. yet you think the dragon ball cosmology could even reach hyperversal or higher, you should go back to school you Cleary don't know what you are talking about
Goku is needle level
@@thesarcasticartist782 rimuru is slime level lol 😂
@@Sunwukong9988 Lower
@@thesarcasticartist782 grass level