One of Ellen Whiteâs CLEAREST Bible Contradictions
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 07. 2024
- In this clip, we examine how Genesis 3 and the fall of mankind, challenging the claim that Adam was deceived. This assertion, often echoed by various Adventist pastors, starkly contradicts the scriptural account where Paul explicitly states in 1 Timothy 2:14 that Adam was not deceived. How does this discrepancy affect the foundation of Adventist theology, including Ellen White's insights?
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - The Gray Area: Ty Gibson
0:22 - Deception, Blame, and Evasion
2:12 - Adam and Eve's Deception
6:14 - Adam's Innocence
0:00 - The Nature of Man
23:13 - Tragic Realization
25:14 - The Great Controversy
25:50 - Conclusion
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The Gospel of Jesus Christ:
Man is a sinner (Romans 3:23; 1 John 1:8) and our sin has separated us from our Maker (Isaiah 59:2). In His grace, God entered into His own creation in the person of Jesus Christ (John 1:1-14; Col. 1:19), born of a virgin (Matt. 1:23), and lived a perfect and sinless life, fulfilling all the Lawâs demands (2 Cor. 5:21; Matt. 5:17), on a mission by God the Father to save sinners from condemnation (John 3:16-18, 6:37-40). He paid the penalty for sin which is death (Romans 6:23) and bore the sins of His people in His body on a cross (1 Peter 2:24), making propitiation by His blood (Romans 3:25). He died, was buried, and resurrected in the same body He died in on the third day for our justification (1 Cor. 15, Romans 4:25; Luke 24:39). By a living faith (James 2:18) in the Person and Work of Jesus (Romans 10:9-10), God graciously declares a person righteous (Romans 4:5), they are reconciled to their Creator (Romans 5:10-11), given Christâs righteousness in full (Phil. 3:8-9), sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph. 1:13), and have peace with God (Romans 5:1). They are born again of the Spirit (1 John 5:1, Titus 3:5), adopted into His family (Eph. 4:5-7), and are granted eternal resurrection life in Jesus Christ (1 John 5:11), set free to do good works that please Him (Eph. 2:10; 1 John 2:3-4). Jesus will physically return one day to judge the living and the dead (1 Peter 4:5; Acts 24:15; John 5:24-5), throwing the wicked out of His Kingdom (Matt. 13:41-3), but His people will be spared from the wrath to come (1 Thess. 1:10) to dwell in union with God forever (Rev. 21:3).
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so If the bible says that adam was with her and ate of the fruit then he would have also heard what the serpent was saying to eve and in taking of the fruit had to have been deceived
He was passive in Eve's dialogue with the serpent and let her take the decision đ and he followed her đą
@@stylishlyinsanestylishlyin844 uhh, no. Adam received the command from God. Eve wasnât even created yet. Adam KNEW what he was doing which is why he wasnât deceived.
Go re read Genesis and pay attention to the order. Eve was not present when God gave the command to not eat. She wasnât even created yet. Adam was.
Adam was passive in his role as federal head and should have been PROTECTING his wife. And he didnât. This is central to the biblical doctrine of headship. Something Adventists know nothing about and SDA theology has no concept of.
@@answeringadventism stop buck dancing and go debate ADL you coward, nothing you have to say hold any weight unless you present your arguments against those who are contending for the faith. At this point youâre fighting the air. đ
@@answeringadventism Yea, right...
"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." Genesis 3:1-3.
It appears that Eve, when she was tempted, was well aware of the prohibition laid upon them and it doesn't say Adam was with her.
@@stylishlyinsanestylishlyin844 no, not deceivedâŠoutright rebellious and disobedient
The Bible is sufficient.
@@SabbatarianCalvinist
Calvinists: âthe Bible alone is sufficientâ
Also Calvinists: âhere allow me to recommend this book called the Institutes of the Christian Religion written by John Calvinâ
Double standards are not cool
You should see how they defend this contradiction:
Ellen White was certainly not the inventor of the belief that Eve was alone at the tree. Even without looking at the Hebrew, consider a few facts:
- In his conversation with Eve, the serpent never acknowledges Adam's supposed presence (Gen. 3:1-5). In fact, Adam's opinion of her decision is never mentioned until he "did eat." (verse 6).
- When confronted by God, Adam doesn't blame the serpent, but casts the blame on Eve (verse 12). Had he been at the Tree at the same time, it seems he and Eve together would have blamed the serpent.
- When confronted by God, Eve doesn't say "the serpent beguiled us, and we did eat" but rather, " the serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." (verse 13).
Many Bible scholars have taken this position through the ages, long before Ellen White ever commented on it.
@@joonhouse weâre aware of how they defend it. Iâve talked before numerous times about how the idea was borrowed from others. They didnât claim they were shown this by God. Thatâs the difference.
How does that deal with the facts?
It doesnât. Just because other people said something doesnât make it true. I can point to numerous first day sabbatarians yet Adventists wonât accept that as now valid.
Notice in your points you use terms like âit seems,â and arguments from silence. Furthermore, weâve had a hebrew grammarian on and talked about Genesis 3:6 and how the text is very plain in Hebrew that Adam was with her and we donât have to do the gymnastics you shared.
Furthermore, the contradiction in focus was that Adam was deceived. No, he wasnât. Eve wasnât even created when the command was given to Adam. And this is why he wasnât deceived and she was. Paul says Adam wasnât deceived. Adventists say he was because their prophetess did and they have to defend her.
Adventists are all about a supposed âplain thus saith the lordâ until it comes to anything that ruins their system. Then all of a sudden mental gymnastics have to be employed to make the text say the opposite of what it plainly says. One side operating on speculation the other on the plain reading of the text.
@@answeringadventism Yeah they have a weak defense on Adam being deceived or not but the defense of Adam not being there is stronger based on their interaction with God afterword.
Just a thought: If Adam was there during the interaction with the serpent, the source of the deception and now a clear enemy, it is odd that he would go straight to blaming Eve. The bible says he was not deceived so he was essentially "Ride or Die". This tells us where his mind was so logically he would blame the enemy to protect himself and her.
The statement "He was with her" doesn't mean he was there the whole time.
I don't know what mean by: "Eve wasnât even created when the command was given to Adam. And this is why he was deceived and she was not."
Eve got the instructions from God. She restates it to the serpent. The serpent knew God told her and used it against her.
I find her "revelations" used to complete the Bible as the most dangerous parts of the Adventist belief structure. She says things that are not in the Bible as though she has been commissioned to complete the holy scriptures. This is very dangerous.
According to the Sda preachers she was the spirit of prophecy to complete the Bible
So does joseph Smith who coloured bible . so the bible is is BACKWARDS and white without false prophet ellen ?
Your heart aches, like Paulâs did for his people.
@@popeduck amen Brian! In hopes they come to a knowledge of the truth.
Yes for everything Mylea said, except that "man is the spiritual protector of the woman". I don't see biblical foundation for that. I do not give any man , including my husband, the "power" to lead me spiritually. In Jesus, we all are priests, according to apostol Peter and the whole context of the new covenant.
I'm not an Adventist and I am a sinner who clings to Jesus everyday. I watch some of your videos every once in a while, but if you want to get to anyone with your message, you have to have love in your heart. Maybe it's there but your style doesn't let it come out. You come across as being desperate and full of despise. Maybe Paul's' handling of all the craziness in Corinth (with LOVE) could be a good example of how you should approach your differences with the Adventist church. Paul had his priorities straight when he wrote: "...but while knowledge makes us feel important, it is love that strengthens the church. (2)Anyone who claims to know all the answers doesnât really know very much. (3) But the person who loves God is the one whom God recognizes." (1 Corinthians 8:1 NLT) I hope this sincere opinion of mine brings us closer to God.
Thanks for pointing out, Myles!
The Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is sufficient! Words matter, especially the Word of God! Jesus is the Word! Adam disregarded God's Word willingly. This is the origin of sin. Egw subtiley mixes God's Word with fable and untruth. Adventism is born from disregarding God's Word.
I donât understand how anyone can take Ellenâs writings seriously.
@@CanadianAnglican deception and darkened minds. Gotta be praying for Adventists.
Do you take the book of Revelation seriously?
It was written by the Apostle John while he was having visions.
Do you fully understand those prophecies?
If you do, let me know and we will proceed from there!
She is so obviously fake to me. I can't understand anyone believing her. It boggles my mind. It's like listening to Muslims defending their prophet when he's obviously fake.
â@@Vincent-gc3cudon't compare the word of God with the false prophets who steal the words of others and claims it's from God. God is against those prophets. Jeremiah 23:30
Have you read steps to Christ? Is a jewel
I would love to see Ty Gibson come on and try to explain all this away. I doubt any SDA of any notoriety would risk their position and influence by coming on here to defend these positions. They 100% have to be able to control the entire dialogue to have influence
We cannot understand the Bible without the lesser light of EGW. So ironic adventist don't see the parallel with infallible magisterium.
There was one blind beggar mentioned in the text in Mark 10:46, it was instead two blind men mentioned in Matthew 20:30. Tell me which Gospel is true or false? the story is the same right. the difference is the eye witness account. You can only write what you see. There can be one car accidents but 4 different angles+ the top tangle camera view. All 5 people account will be different when they both tell it. Same with the gospel & same with Ellen vision it all depends on the view and angle. Same story different angle will show something sightly different. This makes alot of sense to me.
Not surprised comment gets hidden or deleted by Myles đ
Just trying to shed some light and checking out other sources: On 1 Timothy 2:14 the Meyer's NT Commentary (not Adventist) states: "The right interpretation of this passage does not even in appearance contradict Romans 5:12. In the latter, Paul does not mention the woman, but the man, as the origin of sin; but then he is thinking of the man as the image of God, of the woman as the image of the man."
Brother, all sin is deception, so when the Bible says Adam was not deceived, it means Adam was not deceived into thinking that Satanâs lies about the fruit being a magic pathway to Godhood was true. Adam was not deceived into thinking that eating the fruit would result in Godhood. Adam knew that his eating the fruit would bring death. Nevertheless, Adam was ignorant of Godâs love because he chose to believe that God had no plan to save Eve even though Adam was given enough evidence to believe that God could be trusted even though Eve had sinned. All sin is deception. If sin is desirable because of some truth, then sin has a legitimate existence. Sin is only desirable because it is deception. May God bless you with The Spirit of Truth who is the only infallible interpreter of His written word.
Just trying to shed some light and checking out other sources: On 1 Timothy 2:14 the Vincent's Word Studies (not Adventist) states: "Was not deceived (ÎżáœÎș ጠÏαÏΟΞη)
Once in Paul, Ephesians 5:6. Comp. 2 Corinthians 11:3. Rev. beguiled. As it is evident that Adam was beguiled, the interpreters have tried many ways of explaining the expression, either by supplying ÏÏῶÏÎżÏ first, or by saying (as Bengel) that the woman did not deceive the man, but persuaded him; or by supplying by the serpent, or so long as he was alone; or by saying that Eve was directly and Adam indirectly deceived.
Just trying to shed some light and checking out other sources: On 1 Timothy 2:14 the Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary (not an Adventist commentary) states: "In Ro 5:12, Adam is represented as the first transgressor; but there no reference is made to Eve, and Adam is regarded as the head of the sinning race. Hence, as here, 1Ti 2:11, in Ge 3:16, woman's "subjection" is represented as the consequence of her being deceived."
@@ismaeljimenez3597 this doesnât help the SDA position which rejects headship and what this commentary is getting at.
Youâve posted about 5 comments thinking that other people saying something now proves Ellen White was shown this by God and the words in her books are âbarricaded by a thus saith the Lord.â That doesnât logically follow at all.
Just trying to shed some light and checking out other sources: On 1 Timothy 2:14 the Matthew Poole's Commentary (not Adventist) states: "Besides, Adam was not first deceived, nor indeed at all deceived immediately by the serpent, but only enticed, and deceived by the woman, who was the tempterâs agent; so as that she was both first in the transgression in order of time, and also principal in it, contributing to the seduction or transgression of the man; which ought to be a consideration to keep the woman humble, in a low opinion of herself, and that lower order wherein God hath fixed her."
@@ismaeljimenez3597 no one claimed Ellen White was the only person in human history to claim this. Where was that claimed?
Adventists regularly do this, but only when trying to defend EGW. Matthew Poole was also a first day sabbatarian. So is that now validated because he said it? Or are you going to say he was wrong?
Weâre aware that Ellen White was prejudiced by countless other individuals as she had hardly a single original theological thought.
Poole didnât claim to be divinely inspired and the words in his commentary âbarricaded by a thus saith the Lord.â Ellen did. So any sort of comparison is a category error.
She contradicts the text and appealing to Matthew Poole doesnât mean she doesnât now. It just shows she wasnât divinely inspired and Poole was incorrect also. But it isnât a problem for him because he didnât claim God told him this. This was his SPECULATION and personal commentary. Not something he claimed God told/showed him.
Don't listen to what someone says prove it for yourselfâ€
@@fernmunroe9483 exactly why we listen to these SDA pastors and examine.
This explanation has cleared up for me what it means to be born again. I was under the SDA delusion that itâs all behavioral on our part. This sect is a works based religion. Salvation is not works based. We are saved by grace alone. God changes our hearts. Then we produce good fruit. So simple!
@@1971_happylifedog bingo! Works are fruit which evidence that the root is present. They arenât something that sustains the root and keeps it alive. Itâs the other way around.
Adventism has it totally backwards.
Dear Mr presenter...
This woman Ellen White says that "whatever contradicts God's word, we may be sure proceeds from Satan"
Now question is, can there be any thing that contradicts God's word and it's not from Satan? I thought that anything that contradicts scripture is a lie and we know that Satan is a father(Original source) of lies.
Can there be anything that is contrary to the pure principles of God's word and it's not from Satan?
Thanks
How is your point relevant to the video? Ellen White is condemning her own writings.
â@@jayskull935 it's like you haven't watched the video. Please watch the video again and read my question again
Ellen g white is ADDING TO SCRIPTURES. WHICH MEAN SHE CONTRADICRS SCRIPTURES
Yet, she went on contradicting the Word đą
Anything that deviates from the Biblical Narrative is not from God.
I saw the copied plaugerism thats enough for me
19: 39 "why didnt jesus come to condemn people? because those that don't believe are already condemned." " they're born a citizen of the domain of darkness''
I need help understanding the part. plz someone
Firstly,God is love and 2 Peter 2:19 says".... not willing that any should perish but that All should come to Repentance"
"To be born of" often stands for our spiritual state. The pharisees considered themselves children of God, but Jesus called them sons of the devil. We are all naturally children of disobedience, so we must be "born again" (John 3). We are already condemned, because we have sinned. The only way to get this condemnation off our shoulders is the faith of Jesus, Revelation 14:12.
He came to save us from the condemnation, that we already have. If we accept him as our saviour completely, we are no longer condemned, because he has taken our condemnation upon himself on the cross. If we refuse to accept him, then we remain in our sins and our condemnation remains on us.
"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of Godâs one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God."
~ John 3 : 17ff
And BECAUSE it's so clear... guaranteed SDAs won't want to engage with it đ
SDA's dont shy away from NOTHING Kim!
I thought you already knew this!
@@kimartist they just do Olympic level mental gymnastics to try and justify it.
And Vincent is back again. Bro, you're just waiting for any of Myles's videos to drop. Do you do that with ADL? đ
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I know of the site, but dont visit it much.
Mr. Myles site is my FAVORITE.đ
@@otgenesis5046 theyâre obsessed. Convinced I know nothing about Adventism, Iâm totally clueless, yet I live rent free in all their heads. Why is a clueless, totally ill informed, insignificant nobody constantly taking up mental real estate?
We all know why. And it isnât because of me. Iâm just a messenger.
On 1 Timothy 2:14 Barnes' Notes on the Bible (not an Adventist Bible Commentary says): "And Adam was not deceived - ...It is not meant here that Adam did not sin, nor even that he was not deceived by the tempter, but that the woman opposed a feebler resistance to the temptation than he would have done, and that the temptation as actually applied to her would have been ineffectual on him. To tempt and seduce him to fall, there were needed all the soft persuasions, the entreaties, and example of his wife... When it is said that "Adam was not deceived," it is not meant that when he partook actually of the fruit he was under no deception, but that he was not deceived by the serpent; he was not first deceived, or first in the transgression."
@@ismaeljimenez3597 again, how does this prove that Ellen White received this from God? Where did Albert Barnes claim his commentary was divinely inspired and without any error because it was shown to him directly by God?
He didnât.
Barnes was a first day sabbatarian. So itâs always funny when Adventists appeal to others to try and bolster EGW, but only on select doctrines. Albert Barnes was Reformed. SDA theology abhors reformed theology and is fundamentally opposed to such. So trying to appeal to him to support Ellen White is moot.
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Thank you for addressing these âmodern-lookingâ adventist speakers. This is very deceptive, and a word salad. I am not an Adventist but have engaged with Adventists in discussions regarding theology. One important factor in Tyâs speech here is that people who have some knowledge about the gospel and have read Genesis will actually have a very difficult time to be able to understand what he is saying. Ty brings his own terms and concepts to the text (surviving mechanism, behavior issues) so that you have to be in tune with âTy-ismâ to be able to understand the teachings. When trying to sound like a modern day psychologist, he sadly does not elevate and honor Scripture. What poses as intelligence is actually a distortion of the truth revealed in the Scriptureâs own language. This is not a recommended way of doing any kind of exegesis.
***ADVENTISTS LISTEN UP***** As you read this, keep in mind that Ellen G. White says "an Angel" told her this *regarding the doctrine eternal punishment!* Quote: "Said the angel, Life is life, whether it is in pain or happiness". *"DEATH IS WITHOUT PAIN, without joy, without hatred."* (Volume 1 Chapter 19 Spiritual Gifts volume 1, chapter 19
*Ellen G. White is in total CONTRADICTION to the very words of Christ in Matthew 13:42 *âAnd shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there SHALL be wailing and gnashing of teeth.â*
1. Matthew 8:12
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be *weeping and gnashing of teeth.*
2. Matthew 13:42
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: *there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.*
Matthew 13:50
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: *there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.*
Matthew 22:13
Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and *cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.*
Matthew 24:51
And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: *there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.*
3. *REPEATEDLY ELLEN G WHITE CALLS THE WORDS OF CHRIST "SATAN" IN CHAPTER 19.
*Only Satan Himself would bring such a denial of the reality of pain and suffering to the sinner as to mock Christ's explicit warning!* Whom the Adventist's then Call Christ Himself and refer to as "Satan" , "A TYRANT" and a "monster worse than Hitler" . The Adventist have a conscience seared with a red hot iron!
Hell is described as a place of intense suffering and despair, where the reality of eternal separation from God manifests as physical and emotional torment. *The imagery of wailing and gnashing of teeth conveys the deep regret and anguish experienced by those therein.*
Mark 9:43-44âAnd if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that NEVER shall be quenched: *Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.â*
Jesus teaches the seriousness of avoiding sin, even to the point of taking drastic measures, as Hell is a place of unquenchable fire where torment is eternal. *The reference to an undying worm and unquenchable fire stresses the continuous and relentless nature of punishment in Hell.*
I'm more interested in how you managed to get all of this on here without getting it removed. That's impressive
Said with all the laughter and love and compassion and the Joy of The Lord. Get thee Behind My Behind, EGW & her SDAs!!!
Speaking symbolically
@@ScottJackson. weeping and gnashing of teeth is symbolic??
@@user-sm3qh5xq1y yeah notice it is about the children of the kingdom not unbelievers
Hey brother u woke me up i am a seventh day adventist and i believe what u said i was wondering if u could reach out to me because of some stuff but idk if ot would be possible to email u or u me let me know thank u and keep up the good work we need to work to get people out of their sin and come to the one true God
@@archierodriguez2517 answeringadventism@gmail.com
she had to change that to legitimize her ministry . So easy to understand when you are outside the SDA church . While you are in it you are constantly manipulated not to see it . When you are told all the time thus says the SOP/ EGW , who had the balls to take that from Jesus , neutralizing his sacrifice . It is not easy to see that this doctrine is Anti Christ like other doctrines . I know there are followers in there that don't know the doctrine and love Jesus and just bought into the Sabbath . Study Gods word and investigate the SDA doctrine with it in your hand ! You will see that one has to leave it . I say this in love for my neighbor , not in disrespect !
There never were any visions. She blindly repeated whatever she heard or read others say during that time period. Hence historical errors (Waldenses) the temperance push, "self-abuse"(masturbation) and the list goes on and on. Whatever the last things she heard before going into a seizure was "the word of God."
@@shervinmarsh2456 Iâm curious about the masturbation part, are you saying masturbation isnât a sin?
@@OnBail-gq6cb yes
@@shervinmarsh2456 so if Jesus came back right now as you were masturbating what would you say to Him?
侻They were all influenced by other visionaries and authorsđ All pretended visions to deceive her little deluded flock đą
and my Dad would stand outside the bathroom and if my shower was more than 3 minutes, he'd yell "Are you masturbating in there?" because Mrs White
Listen closely to how EW wrote it, then compare it to the Bible. Notice how they are both at different times. In the beginning Eve fell, Adam was not there yet, so he wasnât deceived at that time as the Bible stated. Now EW times it when Eve took the fruit and went to Adam, then explained the situation to Adam, this is the time now that Satan now tempts him, then he falls for the suggestion, now he is deceived. The Bible is only referring to the initial fall, not what occurred later. So itâs in harmony.
@@graverobbersministry8939 notice you have to add to the biblical text to try and deal with the issue.
The Bible does not say Eve went and found Adam and tempted him with Satan and then Adam fell and the woman being deceived and not the man ONLY refers to an initial encounter when Adam wasnât there. Mercy.
No, Paul doesnât say it was only INITIALLY that Adam wasnât deceived. He says Adam wasnât deceived. Period. There is a rich theology around why Adam wasnât deceived and the implications of such with regards to the doctrine of headship.
Itâs crazy how you guys just add to the Bible and act like all this stuff is there. Youâre just reciting Patriarchs and Prophets pg.53-6
ADDING TO SCRIPTURES IS NOT HARMONY
@@charnelallan7159 I am starting to hate harmony now
@@answeringadventism I didnât add anything! Go back and read it again. I showed how her writing, if read correctly, does not contradict what the Bible says. I feel you just want only to bash the Adventist for some personal reasons.
And be aware, that people like Froom has change some of her writings, in fact he is the one who compiled the book Evangelism.
Iâve been reading and watching EWâs prophecies for over 26yrs now, and I believe she is accurate.
She even predicted that people like you would rise up from inside and become the worse enemies.
I hate to say it, but your about to miss the boat. All her prophecies on the Sunday movement, Catholic ecumenism, mark of the beast, America becoming church and State, all taking place as we speak. Still have a chance to grab a hold of the life Saviour. Donât get all prideful as did Lucifer.
@@charnelallan7159 itâs not adding, itâs called magnifying.
EGW judgment is already waiting for her and her followers:âRev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this bookâ!
You nailed it bro!
đđđđđđ wait what, Myles you're making this up. There's absolutely no way this is written in a book. đđđđ. Helen has to be God's favorite because no other prophet received this prophecy. đđđđ
No prophet received this prophecy. Is the Bible complete? Then she is not to fill in the mysteries of it.
Helen could be God's favorite. Ellen G. White the dead witch is not God's favorite, maybe favorite heretic? I don't know but I do know she is a dead relative in my family tree. She more than likely turning extra crispy.
Myles here is something to think about. In Genesis 5: This is the generation of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him. Verse 3. And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image, and called his name Seth. Notice there is no mention of Cain in the generation of Adam. Jesus said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the devil and the âlustâ of your father ye will do.
There was no evil in the Garden of Eden, except the snake!!
The snake was perfect, it was Satan who possessed him was evil đ
Put your faith in the bible and god! Close your mind to everything else! As god stated, knowledge is a vice!
Egw was wrong! Of course!
SDA here
I will let EGW words defend herself from the grave (sort of speak).
Myles, once again please consider this topic: Dangers of Faultfinding and Evilspeaking.
I have seen first hand the results of someone who is wholly devoted to these two things. EGW goes into great detail about it also. And the bible is certainly not quiet about this topic either...
"And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell." James 3:6
EGW...
"It is a great evil,..., to give loose rein to the thoughts, to question and criticize everything another does, making mountains out of molehills, and thinking their own ways are right,... It is just as natural for some to find fault with what another does as it is for them to breathe. They have formed the habit of criticizing others, when they themselves are the ones who should be brought severely to task ... CH 297
"Those who are exacting, who are faultfinding, who think evil of others, are advancing the work of the enemy, tearing down that which God would have built up." TSA 26.... i.e.....
"...for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accused them before our God day and night." Rev 12:10
"They are sharp, critical, faultfinding. They have climbed upon the judgment seat to pronounce sentence upon those who do not conform to their ideas. God calls upon them to come down and bow before Him in repentance, confessing their sins. He says to them: âI have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. " CCH 327
"Evilspeaking is a twofold curse, falling more heavily upon the speaker than upon the hearer. He who scatters the seeds of dissension and strife reaps in his own soul the deadly fruits. The very act of looking for evil in others develops evil in those who look." HDL 35 (James 3:6)
Myles, I have seen loved ones fall from grace from this course of action. It was like they could not control themselves anymore.
I hope and pray this is not the course you are on.
So Mr Myles Christian if Adam should have been protecting his wife and he was not why was this never a claim that God made against him when he came down physically to have their normal communion?
Adam and Eve CHOSE to disobey God...
@@rafaeltorres2460 read againâŠ.Eve was deceived into disobeying. Adamâs chose to disobey. They both disobeyed
She had so many clear contradictions the more you look. I've presented the vision in her early writings about Jesus going in with the father "3 times pleading for making a way out for Adam and Eve" and that his plan was "finally accepted", as if he didn't have sovereignty over the plan of salvation!! by the way this was AFTER the fall of Adam and Eve..... when the Bible literally says like 5+ times the plan of salvation and those who'd be saved was predestined and chosen *before*the foundation of the world. Not after the fall!!!!!
Adventists scurry around having no idea what to do with that plain contradiction. It's sad really because instead of just accepting that she contradicts scripture they fight tooth and nail for her..... and choose her over our Lord đą theres nothing special about her, Adventists! She didn't die for your sin! She didn't suffer for you!
Stop blindly emotionally defending her!
Ellen white was under a principality to completely undermine, slash, and water Jesus down. Her words and "visions" about Jesus are such an insult.
Utter nonsense
ADD THINGS UP. IF ADAM WAS PRESENT HE WAS ALSO DECEIVED AND NOT HER HEAD.... AND WAS WORSE STANDING THERE LIKE A USELESS DUMMY. THE SERPENT WAS TOO CRAFTY AND DECEITFUL.... BEGUILING EVE WHEN SHE WAS ALONE. ADD IT UP!
ALSO NO REASON AT ALL RE..... IT IS NOT THE MAN WHO LEAVES HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND IS JOINED TO HIS WIFE. IT WAS WOMAN WHO WAS BROUGHT TO THE MAN.... TO BE HIS HELPMATE. THE WOMAN LEAVES FATHER AND MOTHER AND IS JOINED TO HER HUSBAND.... CHANGING HER NAME AND TAKING HIS.
Letâs be consistent brothers and sisters when it comes to calling out contradictions to scripture. Consider this:
Galatians 5:22-23: "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law"
Ephesians 4:2: "Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love"
Philippians 4:5: "Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near"
Colossians 3:12-14: "Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you"
Proverbs 15:4: "A gentle tongue is a tree of life, but perverseness in it breaks the spirit"
Proverbs 15:1: "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger"
This young man contradicts these scriptures in almost every video and no one bothers to remind him that even towards people he disagrees with, or even heretics, it is Christian character to respond with gentleness and kindness.
Oh yea he has been called out by non Adventist on this and it totally irritates him to read those comments. He would even rebuke that person and call them Adventist in disguise or some other type of demeaning but never with a spirit of humility.
Now that we got that out of the way allow me to respond to the topic of this video.
First,
"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat".
The text says âshe took of the fruit thereofâ it doesnât say that she plucked it from the tree. It just says she took of the fruit. It could be she took of the fruit from the branches or that she took of the fruit from the serpent but it is not explicitly stated. No clear contradiction there
Next,
11 And he said, âWho told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?â 12 The man said, âThe woman you put here with me-she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.â
Interesting to note here that Adam passes the blame off to his wife, almost saying âitâs not my fault Father, this woman you put here with me tricked me into eating it!â
Again, no clear contradiction to scripture.
Lastly, you claimed that Adam and Eve were not deceived into sinning.
14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
By this text we can see God holds the serpent accountable for beguiling eve into taking the fruit, who then beguiled her husband into partaking with her. So Adam may not have been deceived by the serpent, but he most certainly was misled by his wife Eve. So one could say the serpent indirectly deceived both of them.
Again, no clear contradiction.
This is just far reaching click bait and Iâm ashamed that I keep falling for it
Now go ahead and comment with some facepalm emojis and say some disrespectful stuff like âstupid Adventistâ or âidiotâ being as that is your MO.
Well, Iâm a prophet and I say that Eve took the mango from the ground. Thereâs no clear contradiction. The Bible doesnât say it wasnât a mango in the Bible doesnât say it wasnât from the ground. Therefore, Iâm a prophet. You must believe what foolishness I say đ
@@Jessaba I would say, in all honesty, âmaybe thatâs possibleâ but then I would examine your life and the fruits that you bare. Are you a sarcastic disrespectful laughing scoffer? Or are you gentle and kind and patient towards others that have different beliefs than you? If it isnât the latter then I wouldnât take anything you say as possible inspired word.
@@Jessaba Ellen white helped open hundreds of schools hospitals and sanitariums, started a movement that gives charity world wide and takes the gospel to millions around the globe. Helped countless people to quit nicotine and other harmful drugs, helped people with unhealthy lifestyles that was literally killing them. All by pointing people to the Love of Christ
You make sarcastic comments on CZcams.
13:56 âhe didnât encounter Christ, he didnât encounter the word of God, he didnât come over great conviction over his sins, he didnât encounter the true and living God that radically changed his life foreverâŠâ Ty Gibson was born into a completely secular home and drug addiction, he was a drug dealer and had no concept of God. He is a survivor of abuse. You may not believe in his interpretation of the Bible, but only God knows the heart of a man. I would be careful not to Publicly slander the conversion of a soul. You may find yourself mocking the work of the Holy Spirit.
@@bethanyhousesda2280 did you not listen where I plainly said Iâve listened to his testimony which he has shared publicly? Multiple times at that.
No, he read the great controversy. There was no mention over conviction of sin, being born again, etc. No proclamation of the gospel and the power of the word of god leading to faith-which is what scripture teaches (Romans 10).
He read the first chapter of the great controversy. Not the Bible. And the âgospelâ he encountered wasnât the real gospel (Galatians 1:6-9) so it makes sense he didnât experience this.
Just because you have a changed life doesnât mean you had a born again experience. Muslims has changed life experiences. Mormons have changed life experiences. That isnât all a born again experience is.
Is it possible that I wasnât speaking on something of speculation or am I automatically in the wrong because Iâm not an Adventist?
Not because you are not Adventist, but because you are not God. I am not God. Only God knows the heart of a man. Questioning a manâs conversion doesnât add to the presentation.
âthen hear from heaven, your dwelling place. Forgive and act; deal with everyone according to all they do, since you know their hearts (for you alone know every human heart),â
ââ1 Kings⏠â8âŹ:â39⏠âNIVâŹâŹ
ââ@@bethanyhousesda2280RMS 10- If thou shall confess with thy mouth and BELIEVE in thy HEART that God raised Jesus from the dead thou shall he saved ,if one can't identify with this then....
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âRESURRECTION
In Christ the ânew creationâ was born.
âIf anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: the old has gone, the new is here!â (2 Corinthians 5:7).
His resurrection from the dead was not an isolated supernatural incident, but rather it was the releasing into the world of the principle of life that is in Him, so that His resurrection life is ours as well:
âI am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall liveâ (John 11:25).
Yes, His resurrection ensures our eschatological resurrection at His second coming. But it is also the quality of life that animates our daily lives right now. His resurrection life is NOW and NOW and NOW! It is the life that defines our PRESENT reality. His resurrection life is seeking access to all our relationships CURRENTLY. According to John, the resurrection life of Christ is active in the world today, because it is made of something. It is made of love:
âWe know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in deathâ (1 John 3:14).
LOVE = LIFE
HATE = DEATH
The resurrection of Christ was and is the triumph of love over selfishness.
Wendell Berry, The Mad Farmer on the Liberation Front, says it like this:
âEvery day do something that wonât compute. Love the Lord. Love the world. Work for nothing. Love someone who does not deserve it. Practice resurrection!â
Do things that simulate the resurrection of Christ. Habitually bring dead things to life by your actions. Practice resurrection by loving like Jesus loves.
Happy Resurrection Sunday Everybody!â
@@bethanyhousesda2280 nice dissertation but no where did I see you mentioned Act 2:38 or john 14:16 that is the sign, seal and evidence of the new life in Christ( 2 Corinthians 1:22,,5:5 and eph 1:14) of being Born again not of corruptable seed (flesh) but incorruptible,spirit 1 Peter 1,:23 it would of been better had you not left out this absolute evidential part...
HIS pants are distracting!đź
Sadly, I find this channel's obsession with ridiculing Adventists to be inspired by the 'accuser of the brethren'.
He is trying to bring SDA members to the truth, and to bring those willing to try to teach SDA members a way to teach them.
@@WichitaThreeAngels why do some of you interchangeably refer to Adventism as Adventists. This platform isnât about individual Adventists. Itâs about Adventist theology.
And itâs always rich hearing accuser of the brethren mentioned by people part of a movement that is definitionally such. An actual accuser of the Christian church. Adventism is definitionally an accuser of the brethren. Thatâs precisely why this organization exists. Because we love the Body of Christ and want to defend it against this parasitical organization and its false god and gospel.
You seem to conflate this with the people because most Adventists have their identity wrapped up in Adventism such that they feel personally attacked when their theology is critiqued.
You have a seriously distorted view of Adventism and Adventists. We're not about attacking other Christians. Yes, we may point out false systems of religion as revealed in Scripture, but we believe there are sincere followers of Jesus even within these systems. That's why we focus on sharing the teachings of Jesus rather than attacking or slandering other denominations. A member of the local city council commended my church for never disparaging other churches but pointing people to the truth as revealed in Jesus Christ. @answeringadventism
@@answeringadventism yeah because words like âidiotsâ and âAdventists are so stupid!â Which are verbatim quotes you have used in past videos are impersonal critiques of oneâs theology and not directed towards the individual. Give me a break man
@@michelemoneywell8765 actually his mission statement and his original purpose of this channel was to educate christians about Adventism. He stated before this channel was not for Adventists. So many inconsistencies.
The bible is true because many sites spoken of in the bible exist! Spiderman comics list many sites that exist. So, a thousand years from now archeologists will find a Spiderman comic and conclude that Spiderman existed because remnants of the Empire State Building was uncovered? Think for yourself, people!
Yes we do think for our self, that is why we do believe that fools exist and that one of them do carry the name J.Wisper.
@@nonconformist4802 ! You actually live in a confirmation loop. You hear what you want to and believe anything you hear without any evidence or examination!
@@j.whisper2379 I stand with my statement, you are spiritual blind troll at best
@@j.whisper2379 well that was certainly brilliantâŠ
â@@bjqb1108 ! I know! For more than a millennium, scholars have noticed a curious correlation: Atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people.
It's unclear why this trend persists, but researchers of a new study have an idea: Religion is an instinct, they say, and people who can rise above instincts are more intelligent than those who rely on them.
âWith or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.â â Steven Weinberg
@@j.whisper2379 some truth hereâŠby a mere mortal. All religion is corruptâŠ.except true ChristianityâŠa relationship with the CREATOR. So you believe a mere mortal but not the God who created you and communicated to you His Word. OkâŠ
@@bjqb1108 ! Do you hear yourself! My religion is the only valid one! Any person from any other religion would say the same thing. I just include yours! And what is true Christianity as you define it. I have yet to hear from or have any evidence of any god. The Catholics made your bible, aren't they the true Christians?
Ok. So if miles is correct, then he and most denominations believe the same things which would make most denominations combined, the majority(part of the whole world) when the bible clearly says that only a FEW find the true narrow path and keep the commandments of god AND the testimony of jesus. Miles is teaching the opposite. The majority will be deceived. If you love me KEEP my commandments are part of the gospel which IS THE WHOLE BIBLE. not just believe and you are good to go.... you believing causes an action, that action is keeping the commandments. It's what is required in loving God. If you say you love me and DONT KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, YOU ARE A LIAR AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN YOU...... ALSO part of the gospel
Is he gay?
Ty has mannerisms of being gay.
@@alexanderrazuri967 he is not. He has a wife and kids.
THIS GUY IS FULL OF IT
AND HE IS A PASTOR AND LEAD SPEAKER OF SDA BRANCH???
Repent guy!!!! REPENT
BEFORE GET SNAP TO HIDES!!!
Satan is the fruit of god, as is everything else, including all evil and sin.
@@j.whisper2379 your comments have a gnostic bent to them. You claimed that God lied to Adam and Eve. Besides this being an impossibility, as God cannot lie by nature, itâs also just outright false.
Adam and Eve did die the day they ate. Man was alive more than just physically. Now manâs posterity is born dead in sins and trespasses.
Youâre free to disagree and comment-but just an FYI. Bearing false witness is against the channel guidelines. That includes against God. He didnât lie.
@@answeringadventism ! As usual you interpret the bible as you will! Why did not the almighty omniscient god not know that they would eat from the tree? Did he set them up? A deceitful hateful god is thine! Your god not only lies, he provokes his chosen people to slaughter thsoe who are in their own lands, to the last animal, and suggests they keep the nubile women for themselves! LOL! There is no god, only the word of primitive men who lived by their subjective morals of the time and made a god in their image!
â@@answeringadventism These are atheist talking points. I've been using the Internet since 1997 when "message boards" were a thing. Atheists used to love coming onto the Christian message boards just to harass us & show us "how much better we [atheists] know the Bible than you stoopit Christians." Of course they had their own message boards where they would regroup, heehaw about how they "showed those stoopit Christians," share tips & pen arguments/rants/diatribes they could each copy/paste to use on the "stoopit Christians." This dude is regurging material that's been around for 25+ years đ€·đ»ââïž
And x sda socal trying to tell the truth about SDA'S
Generally speaking when has a wife talk good about her x husband đđđđ
@@morpeter76 right, canât deal with whatâs in focus so you deflect. Thanks!
@answeringadventism the irony of deflecting, ok
X sda ok Pilot
What is truth?
@answeringadventism because you can't deal with it that's why you left the truth đ€ą
â@@morpeter76 He means you can't debunk the content of the video so you drop insults &/or make irrelevant observations as a cope.
@kimartist i don't need to debunk a liar
He does a good job on his own
I try adding a link
To show his lias but he deletes them he not honest and a liar
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Please read the whole story .Gen 3: 12 says the woman you gave to be with me , she gave me the fruit . EGW is correct . If Adam was with Eve at the tree he could have picked the fruit himself . Ifnpeople have pleasure in unrighteousness ( disobedience or sin against Gods law ) God sends THEM strong delusions that they will believe a lie . The way you are taling you must be a Sabbath keeper or you could be condemned by the law that you are breaking . Being born again is a turning away from sin that separates us from God . If people continue breaking the law they have NOT BEEN BORN AGAIN Isa 59:2.
Myles!! Satan does better in studying and quoting the Bible. I'm not surprised by your presentation. The moment you twisted about the Sabbath and sanctuary, i knew you can't lead souls to jesus. You can quote all scripture you want. But forget that satan also quote two scriptures to jesus. As i said before, the only souls you will deceived are those whose names will not be in the book of life. But those who are described in Revelation 12:7, you will not deceive them.
Go to bed with your prophet Joseph Smith...oh no I'm sorry, Charles Russell...oh no I'm sorry Muhammed...oh no I'm sorry ellen white đ
Aka you canât deal with the problem and focus of the clip so you ramble instead. Good one.
The people in Revelation 12 :7 is not you.! You can't even interpret the the chapter!
You appear to have the spirit of 'accuser of the brethren'.â@@answeringadventism
â@@answeringadventismMyles,I have heard the term Cognitive Dissonance used to describe sdas I would love if you do a video on how it applies to Adventist...
Just look at the insignia miles uses... it a bible.... with catholic colors. Purple, gold and scarlet. He advertises who he follows in plain site. Just like David jeremiah with the all seeing eye on his back drop mural. These people are all false teachers
@@RichardFarrell-oz1uw lol. Itâs a play on the Levitical priesthood garment colors. But yeah, good one omen reader. Great job dealing with the contradiction.
I had been looking for an Ellen G. White Bible contradiction for a long time and this video promised to divulge one of her "CLEAREST Bible Contradictions." It turns out that if you understand English, there is no contradiction.
@@martinlohne5128 there are literally hundreds. Itâs amazing how only Adventists seem to struggle to see them.
Maybe you donât understand English then because Adam wasnât deceived and this is central to the doctrine of headship. Ellen White says both Adam and Eve were deceived. And she says it over and over again.
Adventists allege to be all about a âplain thus saith the Lordâ but only in so much as it doesnât overthrow their system.
@@answeringadventism You apparently don't understand that one can be deceived in different ways.
@@martinlohne5128 except the Bible is clear about who was deceived and who was not...hence, Adam's responsibility. You must take the whole of scripture and understand it as a whole...only then do the parts add up.
@@bjqb1108 Yes, with both the Bible and the writings of Ellen G. White you must take "the whole" and "only then do the parts add up."
"For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." 1 Timothy 2:13-14.
"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." Genesis 3:1, 6.
It doesn't say Adam was with Eve when she was tempted. It says the serpent spoke to her and after she found "the tree was good for food" she took the fruit to her husband so he ate.
"The angels had cautioned Eve to beware of separating herself from her husband while occupied in their daily labor in the garden; with him she would be in less danger from temptation than if she were alone." The Desire of Ages page 53.
"And now, having herself transgressed, she became the agent of Satan in working the ruin of her husband. In a state of strange, unnatural excitement, with her hands filled with the forbidden fruit, she sought his presence, and related all that had occurred." The Desire of Ages page 56.
"Adam understood that his companion had transgressed the command of God, disregarded the only prohibition laid upon them a a test of their fidelity and love." The Desire of Ages page 56.
Get it? Adam was not deceived at least at first. Ellen G. White did not contract the Bible.
If god knew all, why did he set Adam up to fail??
@@j.whisper2379 and you know this how? You obviously donât read the BibleâŠ
@@bjqb1108 ! Read that part of the bible. God actually acts surprised that Adam disobeyed. Come on! He is supposedly omniscient. Knows all, he knew what was going to happen. I've foound that atheists tend to read more of the bible than the typical Christian who gets what he is supposed to believe from his corrupt priests!
@@bjqb1108 ! Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Fear is always an important factor with you r interpretation of god! The first commandment of God is: I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt not have strange gods before Me. Implying that at that time each tribe in the deserts had their own versions of god. Just as in modern times!
DID EGW CONTRADICT THE BIBLE
1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
The confusion comes in because after reading this verse, it can be interpreted in different ways. Therefore, we need to decide the exact meaning of this verse, and also what Ellen White meant exactly when she said "Adam was Deceived too"
After contemplating the verse, it is stating that Eve was the person deceived, because she was actually the one physically there listening to the snake's deceptions, and not Adam. Satan's words caused her to doubt God, so she ate of the fruit.
Since Adam was not in the presence of the Serpent when Satan's subtle lies were being told, he was not directly "DECEIVED" by the Serpent. This is what the verse in [1 Timothy 2:14] is saying.
ADAM BECOMES DECEIVED ACCORDING TO ELLEN WHITE
After Eve had touched and eaten the fruit, she left the serpent and went to find Adam.
Once she found Adam, she told him that " The serpent had plucked the fruit of the forbidden tree and placed it in her hands and she did not die". Then she told Adam that God had forbidden them to touch it, lest they die. Then she told Adam since she didn't die from touching it, she would receive no more harm from eating the fruit, so she ate of the fruit.
Once she had relayed EVERYTHING that the Serpent had told her, and her rationale for eating the fruit, Adam contemplated the words of the Serpent told by Eve.
When he saw that she was still the same person as before with no ill effects, ADAM became DECEIVED by the Serpent's clever words and tactics, and ate of the fruit, even though he was not physically there when the words were spoken.
In this Sense, Ellen White is saying in her own way, that Adam too was DECEIVED by the Serpent, because the exact same words that EVE heard from the Serpent, Adam heard those exact same words of the Serpent relayed by Eve.
Therefore, since Adam ate of the fruit, after listening to the exact same words of the Serpent that was responsible for deceiving Eve, Ellen is saying that ADAM was Deceived too by the Serpent!
Ellen said you can get to 1844 in the fall with 2300.. my math teacher hasn't figured out how to do that yet.
@@jimbob1644
I have no issue!
@@Vincent-gc3cu well she lied!
@@Vincent-gc3cu she lied
KJV 1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
Nowhere does that say directly by the serpent nor does it say he was deceived by Eve repeating the serpents words. It just simply says Adam was not deceived. Meaning Adam knew what he was doing. He failed at his responsibility. Also, you can not prove that Adam was not there when Satan was talking to Eve with the Bible alone. You can not prove that Adam did not hear what he was saying. This is all that Bible has to say about it so if you say otherwise you are adding to the scripture.
KJV Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Now show me in that text where it says Adam wasnât with her, Adam didnât her the words of Satan? Show me in the Bible where it said Eve went looking for Adam. Show me those things with the Bible alone. Iâll wait for you.
No mental gymnastics are needed, especially when you understand her in context, context is king!
So John how come you could never understand context?
@@jimbob1644 I do, you don't lol
@jimbob1644 How come you ignore all the evidence in scripture, history, and the fathers of your own church? Go read what Charles Spurgeon said about who The ARCHANGEL Michael was.
@@TheFaithofJesus-bk4wl so the verse in the Bible that say if you say you have no sin you're a liar. That doesn't apply to you right?. So God is a liar. and you're telling the truth, is what you just said!
@jimbob1644 You have no common sense, rational, logical, or critical thinking sk8lls of your own. You simply believe what people like Myles says becaus3 of it.
Anyone believing that if they are to follow christ, that christ can't work in them so that they DONT break the commandments, is in turn believing that satan keeping you sinning, which is transgression of the law, has more power than christ himself. And God does not save you IN sin... he saves you FROM sin. All things are possible with christ working in you to KEEP his commandments. But that takes dying to self, giving up your rights to yourself, so that God can work. If you don't want to give up your sins, then you won't. Question is.... do you WANT to be healed??? It's your choice.. we ALL have free will and freedom to chose, God's way or Satan's way.... those are our choices..... miles along with any sunday preacher, uses the same cunning words as satan... Satan used one extra word that lead Adam and eve to sin... God said you WILL surely die.... Satan said, you WILL NOT surely die... that's all it took to be deceived.... and millions of christians are being deceived by cunning words of these people. They twist what sda is ACTUALLY saying.... listen carefully. And read your own bibles. If you read everything as literal you are being lead in the way that SEEMS RIGHT....
Thats a Lie. He never claimed Adam was deceived. You made that up by twisting the sermon. Go back and show me where he said that ADAM was deceived. You don't even need a prophet to tell you that Eve was deceived and Adam blamed the woman. its written in Genesis 3:11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
ALL of the sin went to the Begotten son on the cross. How hard is it for you to see the truth. Ask for discernment. God bless you
@@ThePhatLady it was literally in the first 45 seconds. 0:44
âThat the HUMAN BEINGS WERE DECEIVED about the character of Godâ talking about the âfall of mankind.â Uhh, yeah, that means both Adam and Eve just like Ellen White falsely claimed.
I honestly pity you guys. More and more convinced Adventists donât even watch but just comment or they have to be some of the worst listeners out there. Itâs a constant problem.
@@answeringadventism brother , people arguing with you are the people who don't understand the SDA doctrines or those who knew and are trying their best to cover it up. I can't believe that people still want to defend EWđ
@@answeringadventism incorrect. Eve was dis eved not Adam and he never said Adam was. You look for the tiny bit of dirt but can't find it so you make it up and miss the daily bread. You can't hear the shepherds voice. Pray for discernment and ask the holy spirit to renew your heart and mind. Have an open mind and hear the words of God without man's hatred. For he who hates his brother is a murder. Unrepented murders of thy brother may lose salvation. God bless you
@@ThePhatLady Here are Ellenâs own words
Satan, who is the father of lies, deceived Adam in a similar way, telling him that he need not obey God, that he would not die if he transgressed the law. But Adam fell, and by his sin he opened the floodgates of woe upon our world.. SW August 14, 1906, par. 2
So your prophet claim Adam was deceived⊠so since you agree Adam wasnât deceived deal with what your prophet said
@@Jesus-alone God's prophet just like any other. If Ellen said so then maybe we ought to look into it. Does the word of God say anywhere the reason why Adam took of the fruit or are we left to guess until the heavenly father can give us more information through one of his prophets? You tell me