Should You Buy a BMW 8 Series? (Test Drive & Review 840i)
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I leased one of these back in 2020. I was 22 years old and suddenly you could get into a BMW 840i for £400 per month with a £2k deposit. It was an unbelievable deal and trust me the car was well worth the money. When the lease came to an end there was nothing quite like it on the market as prices had gone up like crazy. I absolutely loved that car.
I’m not a fan of leasing. Just renting. Won’t ever own it.
If it works for you
@@DavidSmith-xn8lgagree feels really good to own a nice car… but then knowing that in a few years time it’ll be worthless 🥲
@@DavidSmith-xn8lg do you really want to own a heavily depriciating asset? In many ways you should be happy you don't own it.
Owning a BMW after 4 years is just a nightmare factory@@DavidSmith-xn8lg
@@Wouter-van-der-Molenboomer mentality
"Pedestrian safety why is that a concern of mine"
Cracked me up!
Despite the faults, still one of the most interesting cars you've had on the channel for a long time.
I'm more than old enough to remember the original 8. Was gorgeous then & it's gorgeous now! I'm just not a fan of new BMW's or Mercs!
I agree the new ones have that big ugly grill .
I'm in the same boat, unfortunately most modern cars, even high end ones are not made for petrol heads
Loved that car, I remember a local businessman that owned a few of the pubs and clubs in my town had one. Was a stunning car
But these don’t even have big grills. I think they (the 8 series) are beautiful btw.
@@Conservator. I never mentioned big grills??
everyone to their own ..so i think it looks fabulous and even though not driven one i’d still have it !
Looks ok, you should see the old one
I’ve had my 840i for 3 years. It’s fabulous.
Also, even now, I get comments of admiration in the street almost every day. Unfair video. Each to their own mate!
Your comment about " getting in and feeling happy and enjoying the experience" with the car is spot on. I purchased a 2016.5 Mazda CX5 2.5 years ago in one of the best colours, soul red with all the spec. I loved it when i test drove it and still love driving it every day today, still puts a smile on my face and makes me feel content, just a great place to be.
Agree, you won’t fall in love with a bmw. But you’ll miss it when it’s gone
i fell in love with mine
Absolutely agreed this is more a 6. Just "8" by nomenclature.
Alright bad Santa
It's a 630 not a 840... well - apparently they think we're all stupid.
An insult to the E31
I had an 840i last year, and loved it so much that I swapped it for an M8 Comp last week. It's definitely not 'too much' I've been gunning it non-stop, I don't think I'll ever get bored of hearing the V8 roar!
Did you try the 850? Tempted to look at the M8 but would miss the comfort & sunroof
@@PardeepSingh-ls1vd I did strongly consider the 850 but I've never had an M car before and wanted to go for the full fat version if I was going to make the change!
Sunroof is a fair point but my 840i never had one and I prefer the carbon roof on the M8 anyway. Comfort wise there's definitely a compromise with the much stiffer and sporty M8, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for more power and the much more aggressive styling.
Having also had the 840 I did want something that looked a BIT more different on the exterior so the M8 it was!
If I was new to the 8 Series, I'd probably say the M850 is the sweet spot between comfort and power - hope this helps.
Thanks for your reply. Perhaps I’ll try the M8 when tired of the 850… agree about the styling… they look great. I’ve had a few M cars before so wanted a comfy setup this time. Great choice 👊🏽
@@PardeepSingh-ls1vdtbf I’ve always preferred not having a sunroof. When you drive the same car with and without a sunroof back to Back the handling is noticeable
Not major but when you have a carbon roof instead then it’s far better
850i would need a sunroof though being a GT car
@@PardeepSingh-ls1vd you know you can tune your M850 making it like M8 😜 That is my plan with mine after the warranty expire
Last summer I set my heart on an LC500 convertible for all the right reasons; stunning styling, peachy V8, gorgeous interior if you can ignore the rotten touchpad .... and then took it on a 2hr test drive around Cologne, where I live. Shock, horror .... the scuttle-shake was unbearable and the fuel economy about 20mpg on that run. So, by way of a comparison, I took a BMW M850i convertible on the same test drive and enjoyed very smooth, rattle free progress and about 26mpg. It's now on my drive, and I love it. (Oxford to Cologne average about 30mpg) - Great car
Whats "scuttle shake?"
A fair review Matt, each to their own, had an 840i Coupe for two years and loved every minute of it. It had every option pack on it and when you learn all of the tech, it's fantastic (and you can turn the bits off that you don't like - gesture control and anti collision braking). Just for accuracy, in the UK, the 840i was RWD only, and the 840d and M850i xDrive only.
did you face any problems?_ how is the reliability? id love to own a gran coupe as im planning to get married
@@funfzylinder nothing but routine servicing. There's significantly more legroom (16cm IIRC) and headroom in the back of the Gran Coupe than the Coupe
@@davesavage8672 how many miles did you drove it for?
@@funfzylinder 29000 miles, amazingly got just under 35mpg over the whole period I owned it
Had my 840i for 2 years now, completely blacked out red interior 840i coupe, got it at 21 and to this day I still love it. A very uncommon car and a lot more powerful than you’d expect for a non M bmw
My dad had two of the original E31 8 series. He had a 1992 one, original 1st gen. Then he had a 1994 one, which was still original 1st gen, but better brakes, steering, it just handled a lot better. Both were 840's by the way. The 1992 one he had for 4 years, then sold it and then had the 1994 one he had for 2 years in the UK, then sent it to Cyprus where he had it for another couple of years then selling it there. I drove the 1994 one, what a motor! Effortless driving experience. I've never really gelled with this one, it just doesn't do anything for me. this was in the early 2000's by the way.
Bro commented his whole life story
Oh nice! I saw an M850i today. It sounded very good.
I have one, it is good. 😊 wouldn’t settle for a 840
For the interior alone i'd have the LC500. ..and then comes the looks which beat the BMW into oblivion, and that engine...🥰 More expensive yes, but not a car that makes you fall asleep thinking about it. Such a shame what BMW has done to itself. I'm old enough to remember the original 8-series, and the cars they made back then. They didn't bore me...at all :)
Exterior too...LC500 looks amazing, unique, otherworldly. This 8 series looks like my '12 Accord Coupe lol
original 8 was still pretty boring compared to its contemporaries like the mk3 Supra and GTR
Not to mention the LC will be 100 times more reliable and won't be ready for the breakers at 100k miles.
@@keponen331 I disagree. I find the original 850 WAY more exciting than a Supra...or at least the MK4 Supra. If we're talking any of the earlier generations, including the MA47, we can have a debate..but no.. A MK4 Supra doesn't do it for me like an E31, 850 does. The GTR: I hear you.. at the same time as BMW sold the E31, Nissan had the GTR33. I do admire those cars. I lived on the same street as a GTR32 owner some years back, and it was a definete highlight hearing that thing burble down the street. Such a cultivated sound. Lovely car. ..but i'm in my 50s now, and i'd have a more laid back GT-oriented 12 cylinder coupe with popup headlights any day.
@@f2john 100K: That would be a milestone to celebrate for a modern BMW for sure. Man they do know how to make unreliable cars, sadly.
C&C music factory! 👏👏😂
Currently own a 640m sport amd it’s all the car I’ll ever need. I’ll definitely have one of these next though. You don’t see many on the road and they’re great value for money.
Me too. I love mine. Absolute head Turner.
The LC500 is the most slept on car . I think that's one that will be worth a lot more than it is valued at now. But the 8 series reminds me of probably my favourite Top Gear episode, in Australia with the Continental and the GTR.
Their used prices have dropped quite a bit
That was a 6 series
@@ravitaheem4272 this is very similar/replacement though?
@@anthonymeek4248 it is and a great way for BMW to inflate the price by £000s
I’ve got an 840d and it is great. Such an amazing GT car. Loads of road presence. You are right that the interior is not exciting and the visibility is poor. I’ve had it a year and I still can’t really place all four corners on the road. On the boot space - it is massive. It takes three full golf club sets without folding the rear seats.
end of route reached - the car remembers the previous 200m (or thereabouts) you have driven
so will reverse back the way you steered for that distance - useful feature on when you meet traffic on country roads or in a tight car park.
I would also choose the Lexus LC 500 over the 8 Series any day.
I think the LC500 is a beautiful car, it’s just stunning. Interior is different but also a beautiful place to be. But, I couldn’t get on with the drive. It started to get bland very quickly, even with the V8. My much older M6 gran coupe was more enjoyable, never mind the new M8. It’s a shame, for me, as the LC was the car I thought I’d never sell but purely based on how it looked.
George Pattison (the accountant who killed his family at Epsom College) drove an 8 series.
Typical serial killing BM driver!
Did he kill them with his 8 series?
I drive a 840 and have driven BMWs for over 20 years from the five series to the seven series. The last car was a 550M. I can say the 8 is the best BMW I've driven. You can change stations and the guesture control is awesome.
You are spot on about BMW interiors. I find they are marginally more interesting than those of a Tesla (the MOST boring car interior, EVER).
As great as build quality is and certain tech etc, I just couldn't own one. That speedo...🤑
Cringe exaggeration, with all due disgust for tesla
I honestly don’t get the interior thing but am probably in the minority. Build quality feels great in the bimmers I’ve had, and functionality is good. I’m not in a car to be wowed by a certain look inside it. Again, I get that this is an unpopular opinion 😂
I have the grand coupe. Love it. Stop picking holes in the best car I have ever owned. You’re review reminds me of a guy that used to own a GTi golf😅
BMW 8 series is a awesome looking car i don’t think i would ever get bored with how it looks 👍
Currently driving a 218i...the 8 series coupe is my dream bimmer, looks stunning
I think the black interior lowers it. My dad’s got an 840i gran coupé with a white and navy blue interior, and whilst it needs taking care of I can’t tell you how much nicer it feels than the all black one did. Add to that the fact we’re averaging 35mpg, I can’t think of a better car for the money, nor one I’d rather have. Horses for courses though.
I just love how honest and genuine your channel is
You really have grown successfully because of your work.
You make it tough to chose cars😅🎉
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Cars are all about 'feeling'.
Bang on that you base your observations on that.
Hi Matt, just a point about the BMW 3 litre engines. Despite saying ‘twin power’ under the bonnet they are both single turbo engines. The one turbo has two scrolls inside, hence the tagline ‘twin power turbo’.
Fantastic review 👍
Not always the case. The 535d I had was twin turbo. You’re right in respects that the engine cover says twin power turbo regardless of whether they have one or two snails, though!
840i is single turbo and 840d is bi turbo
You should have fully checked out the gesture controls. There's gestures for everything you could want on a regular entertainment system.
Yeah I think you're bang on there. The 8-Series is like a 5-Series coupe but enlarged. It's good, but it's an everyday car. It can't compare to something as special as the LC500, which looks a bit like an LFA with an LFA engine (minus 2 cylinders) and a gearbox they made an effort to be entertaining and a unique interior. I think you MUST spec those glass things and a two-tone interior to make it somewhat interesting. But honestly, we have to give praise to BMW for still stocking this model because it is one of only two or three models left that isn't absolute trash or ugly.
I think this shape was the epitome of classic and modern.. When BMWs still looked good! 😀
Nowadays, I swear they get inspiration from a 5 year old.
I can but dream. In all honesty, I don’t need such, what really is a beautiful looking car! 😊
If could choose I’d have a BMW exterior fitting with a Mercedes interior. My ideal combo. That 8 series does look damn fine I have to say.
Can turn off the safety systems completely with a button on the dash. to help you park in tight spaces, BMW the only company that lets you turn off all safety systems.
One of the nicest BMW’s ever produced. Imho, of course. I drive an E92, and love big coupes.
I think the comparison with the Lexus is somehow unfair. You can't buy the Lexus for the same price - as you pointed out - and you wouldn't be able to buy the Lexus as a 4 door coupe either.
I had a 640d cabrio for 3 years and I loved it. Would have an 8 series I think. Nevertheless thank you for another great video!!!
The BM looks 10/10, but that LC500 is special!
At least I know this was not sponsored by BMW 😁😁😂😂
The question is not if I should, the question is if I can.
Whenever I do see one of these, depreciation comes to mind. Can’t believe how much these cost new v what they are worth now. Never seen the appeal of these and it looks like majority agree due to the poor sales.
A reverse tardis .......about as spacious as an airline toilet and just as memorable.......put that on the highlights reel....... In contrast, the old E31, thirty years on, is still a very memorable car
A friend had one with tan leather and extended leather on the dash. Looked awesome
The E31 was a beautiful looking car, I remember Hoovies Garage having one that was extremely broken. I wouldn't say this successor is as good looking but it's still a decent looking car.
One of the best looking modern BMWs but they wanted it to be a Bentley Continental competitor and it isn’t that. It’s not a comparison for the S Class Coupé either, but I do really like it nonetheless.
Matt I totally agree with you I have the 640d GC and I think it's beautiful. The 8 series was meant to replace it as their flagship coupe or GC but its not special enough to justify the price and looks wise I don't think it hits the spot. Your right would I buy one, No.
They both look the same to me so I don’t understand the looks argument. 🤔
I have the 640d and the 850i both are great in their respective segments! 850GC being a lot more modern!
I went from a 6 series Gran Coupe to an 8 series Gran Coupe. Both stunning cars. Sometimes I will sit in my garage and just stare at the 8 series. It's such a beautiful car.
The weird thing is, the 6 series still felt more special. I can't put my finger on it. But the 8 series is missing something.
Ha ha…I thought that I was the only person that does this! Coming from a 2016 Lexus GS, the 840i GC is beautiful inside and out (not to say that the GS is a terrible car).
You have good taste, both the 6 series and 8 series are stunning cars visually. Does the 8 series feel like a bigger car?
@@Manos-de-PiedraThank you! Yes I agree, both are great cars. Although the 6 series is obviously old, it has aged well! Coming from the GS, it felt extremely wide and long. However, after three months of ownership (plus the convenience of the 360 cameras), it feels like a normal sized car.
It’s to your credit that you give such an objective view on a car your have in your inventory. BTW you can change the track with the gesture control, it’s a two finder swipe - you were just using the wrong gesture 😂
Nearly bought an E31 840CSi three decades ago, but ended up owning five 7 series over the years (E23, E32 and E28), a neighbour had an E24 635CSi. Agree about the standard 840 coupe impracticality and cramped interior, however the 640 / 840 Gran coupes are gorgeous [if big]. A mate bought one 2022 OMA. AIUI all the 840d's have 4WD and other options as standard, which means the massive torque of this engine is applied to the road.
I agree with your analysis of the current bmw interiors, especially when lined up against Merc or Audi. I had a M140i when they very first came out in 2016 and the interior was bland on that, but like for like it came in so much cheaper than the S3 or A45 of the same time and in my opinion, is still to this day a far better car to drive. I haven’t driven this 8, but imagine it’s much the same. If driven back to back with the s53 and an Audi equivalent, I imagine they’d be better wafters but not as fun when making haste.
I would always look back at that after parking it! I think it's stunning! And the interior is a sacrifice I'd be willing to make! ❤
Why is the interior a sacrifice?
I've driven two of these in 'grand coupe' guise as a loaner car from BMW when mine was in for a recalls on two separate occasions. One was specced similar to yours on the video and the other was the same but had the white (Ivory I think it was called) interior with the sunroof. I had the same opinion as you, it was a bit boring and uninspiring with everything black and a black headliner. When I stepped in to the other one it was like a different car, completely uplifted the interior and made it a nicer place to be. I'd go with the ivory or merino interior.
As an Accountant, I like this car 😂
I do love this car. Just the look of the headlights and other things that make it stand out. Not only is the self parking very cool but I also love the fact that you can move your arms in a certain way to make the car do stuff like adjust the radio volume. that is just so cool..
I have a 640. They are gorgeous head turners
Best looking BMW to date. Like the attractive older sibling of the 4-Series.
A really excellent review. You clearly express your opinion of the positives and negatives in an honest and fair manner, whilst at the same time entertaining us with your humour. I am however a big fan of the Hybrid (and at the same time, dislike vegetarians intensely), rating it far more superior to any other engine type, Electric, Diesel or Petrol-only. I would also buy a hybrid over a plugin-Hybrid so long as the price difference is more than £5,000 (at least in my country).
Had a choice and bought a fully loaded S500. Not as agile as the 8 but the interior and ride are simply delicious. BMW do build great cars, the S just takes the design, build and interior a notch or two.
I’m after a 840i gran coupe so I’ve been waiting for this video. Looking forward to your review of this (I know it’s not the same as the Gran Coupe)!
I love this 8 series. might be last current model I would buy. The new electric 5 series is very heavy and wildly expensive
Lol,what r u saying about i5 being expensive ;) Just 4 u 2 know, 2019/20 8 series are like 80-90 k euros,very very cheap 😂
What u get for 30k pounds? What model year? How come it is so fucking cheapo? Not in Finland,it is 3 times more expensive 😢
I nearly spat out my drink at the "Bernard Matthew's gear lever" line, said in a perfectly deadpan manner. Gorgeous car too.
Straight to Autotrader. Thanks Matt! 😂
Hefty car these 840is
I have an '08 650i and while the LC500 V8 is the dream replacement (The one Matt tested in red with tan interior is bedroom poster-worthy), but I do find myself eyeing the 840i from time to time, but I have the same problem as Matt; it doesn't stir my soul. Even worse, I look at what an 840i does and all I can think is it's no better than my old 650i. I have no doubt it handles better on a backroad, but it's much heavier, no faster and the same on fuel. I like the quirky looks of my car, the 8-Series is very 'safe'; standard BMW (before they went crazy). All it's really got is the ultra-modern tech, and by it's nature, tech is hard to be passionate about and so it doesn't tickle me in the right places the way the Lexus does. And if I wanted to replace my car on a bit of a budget, the last-gen 6-Series coupe is even cheaper than the 8's.
However, if someone I knew bought an 840i, I wouldn't turn my nose up at it. I love 2+2 GTs and they seem to be a dying breed so even a slightly generic one like the 840i is worthy.
I agree, it’s such a beautiful looking car, especially from behind 👌🏻❤️
Yes, even better in dark colours
My 2017 M240i convertible has the same engine (3L straight 6 twin turbo petrol), the same 8 speed ZF gearbox - yet in a smaller, lighter package. Handling is great and another CZcamsr recently got 0-60 in 4.2 secs and 0-100 in 9.8 secs from the M240i. So just as good quality, but smaller and definitely a yes on the FUN factor!
E31 is my favourite bmw there was only 1 in the town I grow up in belonged to a solicitor dark blue beautiful machine. Nice to see a new old very good looking motor it is 😮
Great review! Down to earth realism and a no showbusiness assessment... closest thing many of us can get to trying these motors ourselves 🙂 Thanks Matt 👍
I have been waiting for this review, and it did not disappoint.
An 840i would be superb, I love the I6s in BMWs and I would honestly choose it over the V8 M850i…
Drive the v8 first… 😀
@@PardeepSingh-ls1vd Don’t get me wrong, I would absolutely love the V8… but I think I would still choose the I6… but who knows, you have to experience things before you can make a judgement on them.
I completely get the criticism of the interior. At that price point you want a bit of wow factor and it's just not there.
"I don't like that, it's a gimmick" continues to do it with a slight smirk on his face 😂
4:25 You can also park the car with it while you’re standing next to it. Fantastic party trick. 😁
5:29 at that screen you can pinch your fingers and swipe and that will move the ‘camera’ around the car.
5:37 The Bowers & Wilkins sound system is even better (it’ll cost you a small car though). 😁
5:59 you can turn the ‘protection system off with the button next to the alarm lights. You can also override the system by pushing in the accelerator a bit (quite a bit tbh) more.
8:45 “I’m fairly sure you could land a medium-size helicopter on the bonnet” 🤣🤣🤣
Now then Mat. 6 years and your finally stepping into the man's world. 😅
I have looked at a few of these over the years, and I am of the opinion that all colours (except white) work on the 8 series.
Well thanks Matt for mentioning the S Class Coupe in this - i just got one!
Thanks for doing this review Matt. Despite being a base model that car is spec’d very well, Driving Assistant Plus (auto steering) is not a feature you see often. When you were trying to change the radio channel I’m pretty sure on this version the gesture is a two-fingered stabbing motion, not the more logical swipe gesture that you were doing. That’s the case in my girlfriend’s X3. I have a 640d M Sport (which, by the way, I’ve never really loved as was the case with you and your 6 series convertible) and I’m pretty sure the 8 will be my next car. As @chrischambers6069 said they’re great value for the money.
I had to comment when you mentioned the "parking assist" the BMW does. These cars are a nightmare to park. It will modulate the gas pedal so if there's little space you'll have to push the pedal all the way to the floor to get it to reluctantly crawl past that obstacle you can easily see there's enough space for in the mirror. Parking this was more difficult than parking my old XJ without any camera or sensors.
I cant argue and find myself agreeing with your assesment of the interior. I want a car to be as stunning on the outisde (Which this absolutley is) as it is on the inside. Although in saying that the seats do look comfortable. It already looks outdated...
Peak BMW is 5 Series. Above this they just don't have the style or sense of occasion to compete with competitors in those upper segments. Used examples are very temptingly priced but there's a reason.
I'd love your take on the BMW 1-series, Matt.
New videos by High Peak and Walk with me Tim…..both very well made and produced and two successful you tube channels. Result for a Friday night 🥳😎👍😁
Terrific looking car outside, austere interior, I love that functional keyfob I’ve never seen anything like that before. Good value though now that someone else has absorbed the big depreciation hit. I would happily drive one 👍
I remember the 640 AND how much you loved it!! Did wonder what happened to it. Now I know - Quickly sold.
Great video as always. Just wish your editor could go the extra mile and show us the cars you’re referring at times. Like the interior of the Lexus you talked about, as well as the Bmw convertible you mentioned towards the end
What a cracking review. You mentioned the 4 door grand coupe. Theres a stunning blue one in a showroom i walk past everyday. Im in awe of it. It just looks effin Awesome. Would i have it? Sure as eggs are eggs, if i was wealthy enough that is, but i know deep down i'd fall out with it. The 2 door is a gobsmacking great looking car.
However you mentioned the OMG master of all coupes the LC Lexus. I'm not clever enough with words to describe that utter work of arts. If ever i'd win on the lottery then straight to Lexus Stockport and get them to find me the hybrid V6 and the V8. Best of both worlds.
Hi Matt ,looks like a proper beast of a car ,you don't see many of these on the road at all ,must admit £30k is a bargain I think for one of these !
I completely take your point Matt. The interior is boring. That said, I borrowed an M340d last year and the driving experience made me ignore the interior completely, so is that the actual point? Don't be distracted by tan leather and funky buttons when you should be soaking up the miles in comfort and feel engaged with the driving of the car???
Off now to watch a review of the Lexus
More and more electrical and fancy stuff to go wrong. Back to basics I’d say.
your comments like the bernard matthews gearstick following up the turkey drumstick comment brings me back to your videos everytime. Absolutely love your wit/humour and presenting abilities
Personally the Gran Coupé version is better! But its predecessor (6 series GC) has a better exterior!
Anyway, thanks to Matt's advice..... I've just bought a 5 series Gran Turismo 3 litre diesel with 245 HP and it's AWESOME! Looking forward to "pair" it with the 6 series GT and keep both of them till the end!!! Underappreciated cars which are actually........ Clever!!!! 😁😁
Greetings from Italy
Turkey drumstick, lol
Nearly spat out my rich tea biscuits 😅
Nice watch mod buddy.
Explorer 2 vibes with the Milgaues lightning hand and black GMT hand along with that fixed stainless steel bezel.
not a BMW fan but that is beautiful
Thank you for the videos Matt,very enjoyable to watch.
Literally gagged on my water at the gym regarding the lc500 hybrid vegetarian comment 😂😮😢
When it was around in the 80-90's a friend of mine loved them
It's a great car with one of the best drive trains on the market. Design is, as always, a matter of taste. I also don't like the way the Interieur design is going and all the techy stuff but we should not forget the biggest markets for a car like this from BMW is China and the US these days and they are a lot less old school when it comes to things like this
i probably agree on the LC, love that car, but man its almost twice the price for the same year/miles. 30k into one of those is great bang for buck.