I had a Dr white here in Modesto. The way I dealt with the fruit hanging on the ground was by trimming them with a central leader like a street tree. That way when the fruit hung down the main trunk provided support for side branches. I may try Atemoya, I found that my Cherimoya growing in the Central Valley heat was a bit too sweet for my taste!
Awesome video! I think we can all agree annonas are one of the best fruits you can grow. They're also so delicious! Makes my mouth water just thinking about creamy sugary cherimoyas or juicy tart soursop.🤤 Talking about soursop I'm so surprised how hardy and resilient they are for being so cold sensitive at the same time. I have all my soursop seedlings in my unheated greenhouse and they're doing just great. It's been dropping below 40 very frequently and the greenhouse seems to only stay 2 or 3 degrees warmer and they seem just fine which is awesome. Caimitos are doing great too and I haven't put my jackfruit or a baby purple sugar apple seedling inside a greenhouse so they're taking all the cold like champs.
good job with the anoda , I'm still trying to grown them. I'm with you on the White Sapote , the fruit I get from my tree are creamy, buttery and sweet.
This is awesome, I just found your video when researching Cherimoya, Exactly like you say I have the total opposite of info I find online. I have over 100 young trees and we had some really bad frosts before the new year started and again now we had -3c and only 3 of the 100 young trees have even lost their leaves. They are much hardier then it says, Or it could be we have some hardy types. I will wait until the spring and see if the 3 that lost their leaves have been killed or not. Here is one relation to Cherimoya that is hardy down to -20c and that is the Pawpaw this is a super hardy cousin. Not to be confused with Papaya which is a totally different tree. Some times they call them Paw paws in Australia If you can get Pawpaw trees I highly recommend you try them. They are like the Cherimoya but bigger. Best tasting fruit for the colder parts of the world.
Thank you. I actually do have a paw paw tree. The main issue I have with the paw paw is the fact that it is not a fan of our sun. Being native to the northern United States, the paw paw trees cannot seem to adjust to my summer and requires heavy (in my case 90% shade cloths) otherwise its foliage gets burned.
That’s awesome. Assuming yours was a grafted tree, it will likely fruit next year, though depending on your climate, you may want to remove the flowers and instead, let the tree focus on its root establishment for a few years.
They do well here in SF Bay Area zone 10a also. I have a five year old Vietnamese(Dr White), two year old HoneyHart cherimoya, and 1 year old Geffner Atemoya. The fruits on my Dr White is very sweet and juicy.
Well said. Luckily, when in season, I’ve seen them for around $5 to $10 per pound. In fact, one of the reasons why you don’t often see larger, 5 pound cherimoya/atemoya fruits is because no one is willing to spend $50 on a piece of fruit.
@@TropicalCentralValley in Southern CA, we don't get those prices. Even cherimoya is $9/lb now. I have 6 atemoya and I'm considering adding one more just because it's really good use of real estate. Plus it's delicious
Very nice, thanks for sharing! Love your tree grove! Reminds me of the old country back yard filled with all sort of tropical fruits. By the way, do you sell any of their fruit?
I've read some opinions on growing Cherimoya in Florida. Seems that the issue is with getting them to go dormant and subsequently flower requires more chill hours in winter than is typical there. However I do know some people personally that grow Atemoya successfully in South Florida.
There’s a lot of conflicting information on cherimoya and atemoya. From my research, it doesn’t appear to be a chill hour thing, as some folks in USDA Zone 9b in Florida aren’t able to successfully grow cherimoya trees
Thanks for sharing! Love your garden! Reminds me of the old country back yard filled with all sort of tropical fruits. By the way, do you sell any of your trees? Particularly the Atemoyas? I live up north by San Joaquin county so I think it may thrive up here. Thanks again..
Thank you. The tree will appreciate the shade, however, all of mine has always adapted to the intense sun. Just be sure to keep the trees hydrated during the heat wave days.
@@TropicalCentralValley I set up a drip to do 2 gallons an hour. the tree i think might have been air layered because the roots are kinda small for how tall the tree is. have you made a Facebook group?
Enjoyed your informative video as usual. You were about to comment on the taste of Lisa Atemoya but didn't finish commenting on it. So, how did it taste and its texture compared to a Geffner? Another question: Are the Lisa Atemoya grown from seeds be true or duplicate to taste and texture from the mother plant? Since it is a hybrid, I am wondering if the seed grown Atemoya be reverted back to either a Sugar Apple or Cherimoya. Thanks!
I really couldn’t tell the difference, as there are many variables that affect the taste of the fruits, such as ripeness. From a texture perspective, the Lisa is less creamy. As all atemoya trees are hybrids between a cherimoya and a sugar apple, they are not true to seed. You’ll want a grafted tree if aiming for a specific variety.
I've given up on Cherimoya here in Palm Springs area. They live but that's about it. I planted about 10 seedlings in various parts of our ranch 6 years ago. The biggest is maybe 4 feet tall. They just can't take the heat. My African Pride atemoya though is getting huge in only 3 years
That’s a bummer. Although your summers are typically 5° hotter than ours, I’d imagine your cherimoya trees should be fine. There’s always shade clothe.
All my cherimoyas are in filtered sun. Maybe it's the variety. They are all fino de jete seedlings. They just won't thrive. My African Pride atemoya and Annona reticulata seedling are doing really good. Next year I'm hoping to get fruit from one or both. My sugar apple seedlings deal with heat but get frozen to the ground almost every winter. It's 8 degrees hotter than Fresno in July and 9 degrees hotter in August
Thank you. In the beginning, I was happily shipping seeds, seedlings, cuttings, etc to viewers, however, many of the packages ended up being tempered with by USPS, as they did not seem to like the shipping of live plant products. Since then, I’ve stopped sharing. If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area.
Are most of these various animas in this video grown in pots. The pots appear to be 20 gal. And about how old are these trees. I guess you’re proving that crowding them is no problem as long as they are getting sun
This was an old video. I have since put all of my various annonas, including cherimoya and atemoya fruit trees in the ground, with some about 6 inches apart. I’m not sure who spread the rumor/myth about spacing, but I have made a dedicated video that covers some of these myths.
I have a plant which I am trying to ID but suspect it is Chermoya. Can it survive temperature in the 30 degrees F on some days? I live here in Virginia,USA. We do get temps of below freezing a few times a year mostly at night or early morning.
It’s tricky with the fruits. I would examine the coloration between the “scales”. Bear in mind too, the fruits will ripen on the counter even if picked prematurely.
Help please! We moved a Dr White and El Bumpo into the ground in early March, BUT now all the leaves are yellowing (am in Antioch area - zone 9-10 i think)! They both seemed happier in their containers!! Followed all the same ground planting tips mentioned in one of your other video, 3x3ft hole with plant soil and some perlite (no native soil). Thought mayyybe the soil is staying too wet, but having some 80-90degree days so thought that would balance things out? Should I do a foliar feed, i'm afraid to further shock these young cherimoya trees! Any recommendations?
Oh no! I’m afraid the trees likely won’t be able to make it. Just kidding. On a more serious note, right around this time of the year, it is completely NORMAL for your cherimoya trees to defoliate completely. All of mine does it all the time. Cherimoya trees are semi-deciduous, in that, they will over a period of weeks, replace their foliage with new ones during the spring time. I actually made a video covering this topic: czcams.com/video/xugEdAlOwdc/video.html Specific to your situation, the trees may still be going through transplant shock, which may last several weeks. During this time period, given our unusually high temperature, it would help to provide some shade to the trees until you see new growth. I would also cut back on the water, but ensure the top inch is moist to the touch and resume your normal watering upon seeing new growth. Avoid feeding them until you see new growth. Good luck.
@@TropicalCentralValley AHHHHHH At first i didnt scroll down to see your whole reply and a wave of sadness hit me!!! Much more comforting to know they defoliate now! Thank you for the advice :)
I use a generic organic fertilizer, nothing special. I can’t say why yours may be bland, but generally leave mine on the counter top to fully ripen. Here’s a quick video I did earlier on the type of fertilizer I use: czcams.com/video/5ePGUBhOj-w/video.html
Hi there, new gardener here from Ocala, FL zone 9a, 101' elavation. I have read that cherimoyas don't grow great in FL because they grow naturally in high elevation and that I'm better off growing Atemoyas. Do you live in high elevation?
No, my elevation is about 300 feet above sea level, far below the Himalayas where cherimoya fruit trees are native to. As I have been able to successfully grow and fruit cherimoya trees, I do not understand the logic behind why folks say they don’t grow in Florida.
A couple of follow up question. - How are your winters. How many instances of frost do you get? How cold are your coldest nights and mornings? - How hot are your summers? - How many months are your warm months (above 50°F).
@@TropicalCentralValley yes, many times. Had fruit but bugs or squirrels got it. I am grafting it on some Cherimoya rootstock and planting the grafted trees in a better location. Cherimoya ties for first with Canistel as my favorite fruit. You have Cinnamon Apple (Pouteria hypoglauca)? Also a very good fruit. Really enjoy your work there. I have lost the enchantment of it all, but this helps me focus in again.
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals. If you are nearing or heading to the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area.
Sir your page is not informative to the viewers stop this Idea, pls us something to know about Cherimoya like propagation,etc dont just to talk and talk Stop pls
Not sure I grasp your issue, but you are probably not my target audience. As I reside in California’s Central Valley, my videos are tailored to other San Joaquin Valley residents. You will find many videos that discuss the topics you are seeking from other folks in more tropical climate.
On the contrary this page is very helpful to those living in California. I’m more southern, but learning a lot via this page. Not sure if it’s a video I just haven’t seen yet, but would like to see videos relating to how you’ve gone about laying out the various trees according to their (and your) needs
Thank you. I have not done any videos yet that covers the topic of grafting and air layering techniques. I do plan on covering these topics in future videos. For now, I feel it’s more important to ensure the existing tropical fruit trees grow and thrive before propagating them.
Love your videos brother keep em coming.
Another great video. So informative and interesting!!! Thank you!!!
What a fantastic plants you had , also your garden had j
Great fruit trees...thanks sharing new friend🙏🙏
Awesome information thanks for sharing
I had a Dr white here in Modesto. The way I dealt with the fruit hanging on the ground was by trimming them with a central leader like a street tree. That way when the fruit hung down the main trunk provided support for side branches.
I may try Atemoya, I found that my Cherimoya growing in the Central Valley heat was a bit too sweet for my taste!
Awesome video! I think we can all agree annonas are one of the best fruits you can grow. They're also so delicious! Makes my mouth water just thinking about creamy sugary cherimoyas or juicy tart soursop.🤤 Talking about soursop I'm so surprised how hardy and resilient they are for being so cold sensitive at the same time. I have all my soursop seedlings in my unheated greenhouse and they're doing just great. It's been dropping below 40 very frequently and the greenhouse seems to only stay 2 or 3 degrees warmer and they seem just fine which is awesome. Caimitos are doing great too and I haven't put my jackfruit or a baby purple sugar apple seedling inside a greenhouse so they're taking all the cold like champs.
good job with the anoda , I'm still trying to grown them. I'm with you on the White Sapote , the fruit I get from my tree are creamy, buttery and sweet.
Great garden! Thank you for sharing.
Thank you.
This is awesome, I just found your video when researching Cherimoya, Exactly like you say I have the total opposite of info I find online. I have over 100 young trees and we had some really bad frosts before the new year started and again now we had -3c and only 3 of the 100 young trees have even lost their leaves. They are much hardier then it says, Or it could be we have some hardy types. I will wait until the spring and see if the 3 that lost their leaves have been killed or not. Here is one relation to Cherimoya that is hardy down to -20c and that is the Pawpaw this is a super hardy cousin. Not to be confused with Papaya which is a totally different tree. Some times they call them Paw paws in Australia If you can get Pawpaw trees I highly recommend you try them. They are like the Cherimoya but bigger. Best tasting fruit for the colder parts of the world.
Thank you.
I actually do have a paw paw tree. The main issue I have with the paw paw is the fact that it is not a fan of our sun. Being native to the northern United States, the paw paw trees cannot seem to adjust to my summer and requires heavy (in my case 90% shade cloths) otherwise its foliage gets burned.
@@TropicalCentralValleythey need a .ot of water. But they do taste delicious
Thanks for the tip. I water mine every hour for a few minutes per watering session.
Love your video.!!
I have a cherimoya tree and this is its 1st yr flowering, and setting fruit..
IM SO EXCITED!!
That’s wonderful. There’s nothing like the feeling of seeing one of the world’s most delicious fruits being grown on your tree.
Great video. I bought atemoya tree a few weeks ago. It's about the feet tall. Hopefully I'll get some fruit next year.
That’s awesome. Assuming yours was a grafted tree, it will likely fruit next year, though depending on your climate, you may want to remove the flowers and instead, let the tree focus on its root establishment for a few years.
@@TropicalCentralValley yes it's a grafted tree. I'm in Long Beach. I bought it at Tu tropical plants in Norwalk.
They do well here in SF Bay Area zone 10a also. I have a five year old Vietnamese(Dr White), two year old HoneyHart cherimoya, and 1 year old Geffner Atemoya. The fruits on my Dr White is very sweet and juicy.
That’s great to know. With the added humidity from the Bay Area, I would expect annona trees to do great there.
Atemoya is also one of the most expensive fruit to buy. $15-20/lb during Lunar New Year.
They grow really well and taste great.
Well said. Luckily, when in season, I’ve seen them for around $5 to $10 per pound. In fact, one of the reasons why you don’t often see larger, 5 pound cherimoya/atemoya fruits is because no one is willing to spend $50 on a piece of fruit.
@@TropicalCentralValley in Southern CA, we don't get those prices. Even cherimoya is $9/lb now.
I have 6 atemoya and I'm considering adding one more just because it's really good use of real estate. Plus it's delicious
Thank you for sharing! I love seeing your beautiful trees . Do you plan to prune your Atemoya tree this season? If so, will it be after harvest?
I typically prune my annona trees in late February, right before the trees go semi-dormant.
Very nice, thanks for sharing! Love your tree grove! Reminds me of the old country back yard filled with all sort of tropical fruits. By the way, do you sell any of their fruit?
Thank you. Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals, including fruits.
I've read some opinions on growing Cherimoya in Florida. Seems that the issue is with getting them to go dormant and subsequently flower requires more chill hours in winter than is typical there. However I do know some people personally that grow Atemoya successfully in South Florida.
There’s a lot of conflicting information on cherimoya and atemoya. From my research, it doesn’t appear to be a chill hour thing, as some folks in USDA Zone 9b in Florida aren’t able to successfully grow cherimoya trees
Thanks for sharing! Love your garden! Reminds me of the old country back yard filled with all sort of tropical fruits. By the way, do you sell any of your trees? Particularly the Atemoyas? I live up north by San Joaquin county so I think it may thrive up here. Thanks again..
Thank you. Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals.
Love this video. I just planted a 6 foot tall tree and was wondering if I should put a shade cloth on it because we get temps into the 100+.
Thank you. The tree will appreciate the shade, however, all of mine has always adapted to the intense sun.
Just be sure to keep the trees hydrated during the heat wave days.
@@TropicalCentralValley I set up a drip to do 2 gallons an hour. the tree i think might have been air layered because the roots are kinda small for how tall the tree is. have you made a Facebook group?
Enjoyed your informative video as usual. You were about to comment on the taste of Lisa Atemoya but didn't finish commenting on it. So, how did it taste and its texture compared to a Geffner? Another question: Are the Lisa Atemoya grown from seeds be true or duplicate to taste and texture from the mother plant? Since it is a hybrid, I am wondering if the seed grown Atemoya be reverted back to either a Sugar Apple or Cherimoya. Thanks!
I really couldn’t tell the difference, as there are many variables that affect the taste of the fruits, such as ripeness.
From a texture perspective, the Lisa is less creamy.
As all atemoya trees are hybrids between a cherimoya and a sugar apple, they are not true to seed. You’ll want a grafted tree if aiming for a specific variety.
I've given up on Cherimoya here in Palm Springs area. They live but that's about it. I planted about 10 seedlings in various parts of our ranch 6 years ago. The biggest is maybe 4 feet tall. They just can't take the heat. My African Pride atemoya though is getting huge in only 3 years
That’s a bummer. Although your summers are typically 5° hotter than ours, I’d imagine your cherimoya trees should be fine.
There’s always shade clothe.
All my cherimoyas are in filtered sun. Maybe it's the variety. They are all fino de jete seedlings. They just won't thrive. My African Pride atemoya and Annona reticulata seedling are doing really good. Next year I'm hoping to get fruit from one or both. My sugar apple seedlings deal with heat but get frozen to the ground almost every winter. It's 8 degrees hotter than Fresno in July and 9 degrees hotter in August
Where did you get the red Israel? Been trying to get one without luck. Thanks for the informative videos.
I got mine from Emily Nursery in Santa Ana, in the Los Angeles region.
I wish cherimoyas grew in Florida would love to have them but we don’t get enough cold weather which they need . So I grow my soursop and ilama .
I’m not entirely certain it’s a cold requirement, as others in USDA Zone 9b areas in Florida have been unable to grow them.
@@TropicalCentralValley oh wow I would think Jacksonville and Orlando which are 9b would be able to grow them. Might just be a Florida thing .
Just a random question. Have you ever used iv organic products on your trees? Looks like a cool product.
Yes, I talked about Ivy Organic’s tree whitewashing product in my Challenge of Growing Mango Trees video.
great video ! I presume these cherimoya's are in native soil ?
Yes, they are planted in the ground, in my alkaline soil, though, I have been trying to slowly acidify my soil.
Wow , Love all your fruit trees. By any chance you like to share your atemoya unknown? Or do you know any nursery have it ?
Thank you.
In the beginning, I was happily shipping seeds, seedlings, cuttings, etc to viewers, however, many of the packages ended up being tempered with by USPS, as they did not seem to like the shipping of live plant products. Since then, I’ve stopped sharing.
If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area.
@@TropicalCentralValley thank you for sharing!
You’re very welcome.
What soil do u use? I just got some tropical tree from mimosa nursery and was planning to transplant to bigger container
For containers, I’d go with a 40% peat moss, 40% sand and 20% potting soil.
Are most of these various animas in this video grown in pots. The pots appear to be 20 gal. And about how old are these trees. I guess you’re proving that crowding them is no problem as long as they are getting sun
This was an old video. I have since put all of my various annonas, including cherimoya and atemoya fruit trees in the ground, with some about 6 inches apart. I’m not sure who spread the rumor/myth about spacing, but I have made a dedicated video that covers some of these myths.
I have a plant which I am trying to ID but suspect it is Chermoya. Can it survive temperature in the 30 degrees F on some days? I live here in Virginia,USA. We do get temps of below freezing a few times a year mostly at night or early morning.
Assuming it’s a cherimoya, it very likely will survive your temperature. Even my seedlings have had no issues with high 20°’s.
Hi
When do you harvest the fruit? I have my first Cherimoya on my tree but it's only the size of a tennis ball.
It’s tricky with the fruits. I would examine the coloration between the “scales”. Bear in mind too, the fruits will ripen on the counter even if picked prematurely.
I have a 1-2 feet atemoya, will it be safe to plant it in ground now or should I wait till next spring?
I would put it in the ground now. This allows it to grow and hopefully overcome any winter issues.
Help please! We moved a Dr White and El Bumpo into the ground in early March, BUT now all the leaves are yellowing (am in Antioch area - zone 9-10 i think)! They both seemed happier in their containers!! Followed all the same ground planting tips mentioned in one of your other video, 3x3ft hole with plant soil and some perlite (no native soil). Thought mayyybe the soil is staying too wet, but having some 80-90degree days so thought that would balance things out? Should I do a foliar feed, i'm afraid to further shock these young cherimoya trees! Any recommendations?
Oh no! I’m afraid the trees likely won’t be able to make it. Just kidding.
On a more serious note, right around this time of the year, it is completely NORMAL for your cherimoya trees to defoliate completely. All of mine does it all the time.
Cherimoya trees are semi-deciduous, in that, they will over a period of weeks, replace their foliage with new ones during the spring time. I actually made a video covering this topic: czcams.com/video/xugEdAlOwdc/video.html
Specific to your situation, the trees may still be going through transplant shock, which may last several weeks. During this time period, given our unusually high temperature, it would help to provide some shade to the trees until you see new growth. I would also cut back on the water, but ensure the top inch is moist to the touch and resume your normal watering upon seeing new growth. Avoid feeding them until you see new growth.
Good luck.
@@TropicalCentralValley AHHHHHH At first i didnt scroll down to see your whole reply and a wave of sadness hit me!!! Much more comforting to know they defoliate now! Thank you for the advice :)
Sorry, I’ve been told my sense of humor is a bit dry.
@@TropicalCentralValley nah, it was scary funny 😄
Between atemoya and sugar apple, which one do you like best?
They’re both delicious tasting fruits. For this reason, I’d get them both.
What fertilize you use to make the fruits sweet? Cause my fruits taste bland.
I use a generic organic fertilizer, nothing special. I can’t say why yours may be bland, but generally leave mine on the counter top to fully ripen.
Here’s a quick video I did earlier on the type of fertilizer I use:
czcams.com/video/5ePGUBhOj-w/video.html
@@TropicalCentralValley thank you!
You’re very welcome.
Hi there, new gardener here from Ocala, FL zone 9a, 101' elavation. I have read that cherimoyas don't grow great in FL because they grow naturally in high elevation and that I'm better off growing Atemoyas. Do you live in high elevation?
No, my elevation is about 300 feet above sea level, far below the Himalayas where cherimoya fruit trees are native to.
As I have been able to successfully grow and fruit cherimoya trees, I do not understand the logic behind why folks say they don’t grow in Florida.
@@TropicalCentralValley Interesting. I guess it's worth a shot. Thanks 🤙🏽
I’d give it a try. As with virtually all annona, you’ll need to hand pollinate the flowers, at least in my dry climate.
I live in zone 9a area . What kind of tropical fruittree can i grow in my garden.
A couple of follow up question.
- How are your winters. How many instances of frost do you get? How cold are your coldest nights and mornings?
- How hot are your summers?
- How many months are your warm months (above 50°F).
@@TropicalCentralValley i dont know about that. I live in coast blacksea/ turkey
Without knowing your climate and the possible microclimate you can provide, it is hard to judge what tropical fruit tree may grow there.
@@TropicalCentralValley thats true thanks.
You’re welcome. I’d try at least with a loquat, pineapple guava, or a jamun, as these are quite cold hardy.
How about the sugar Apple
Although they’re reported to be USDA Zone 9b compatible, none of my previous in ground sugar apples have made it. They are a bit too frost sensitive.
I want one cherimoya plant. How can I get one?
Many ethnic grocery stores carry fresh atemoya and cherimoya fruits.
I have a 20 yr old Cherimoya seedling in the back yard. No fruit yet.
That’s interesting. Has it flowered?
My two cherimoya trees grown from seed started producing flowers around age 3.
@@TropicalCentralValley yes, many times. Had fruit but bugs or squirrels got it. I am grafting it on some Cherimoya rootstock and planting the grafted trees in a better location.
Cherimoya ties for first with Canistel as my favorite fruit. You have Cinnamon Apple (Pouteria hypoglauca)?
Also a very good fruit.
Really enjoy your work there. I have lost the enchantment of it all, but this helps me focus in again.
Thank you. I do not have a Cinnamon Apple tree, though I will be on the lookout for one.
Do you sell these trees?
Unfortunately, I do not sell any of my tropicals. If you are nearing or heading to the Los Angeles region, there’s actually a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area.
Sir your page is not informative to the viewers stop this Idea, pls us something to know about Cherimoya like propagation,etc dont just to talk and talk Stop pls
Not sure I grasp your issue, but you are probably not my target audience.
As I reside in California’s Central Valley, my videos are tailored to other San Joaquin Valley residents. You will find many videos that discuss the topics you are seeking from other folks in more tropical climate.
On the contrary this page is very helpful to those living in California. I’m more southern, but learning a lot via this page.
Not sure if it’s a video I just haven’t seen yet, but would like to see videos relating to how you’ve gone about laying out the various trees according to their (and your) needs
Thank you.
I have not done any videos yet that covers the topic of grafting and air layering techniques. I do plan on covering these topics in future videos.
For now, I feel it’s more important to ensure the existing tropical fruit trees grow and thrive before propagating them.