You don't find that watering more frequently and little cause salt build up since our water is high in mineral and ph? In AZ they all suggested to do deep watering to flush the salt down deep.
In my climate, according to my water company reports, our tap water has virtually no salt, averaging around 26 parts per million (ppm). For comparison, it is not advised to water mango trees with salt levels higher than 200-300 ppm, however, most agree that their “maximum” limit is about 2,000 ppm. For this purpose, due to my water quality, it is not an issue. Additionally, I do use in-line filters that take out heavy metal and other contaminants.
That’s a bummer. I know there are a good number of individuals in Arizona that has awesome mango trees. Although many of my mango trees do well in my climate, there are some varieties that aren’t a huge fan of the cold. Unfortunately, our winters are true to seed when it comes to USDA Zones.
Your shirt is great and gave me a laugh :) Thank you for continuing to push boundaries. Some plant ranges seem very out of date and I wonder how accurate they really are. We never know until we try. Every seed has the potential to be "the one"
Very nice and good luck! Always exciting to see newly planted trees in the ground. Hope they will adapt to the in-ground conditions well. Then we will have the first successful living proof of growing mangosteen in NorCa:) I am germinating mangosteen seeds now. Looking forward to more follow up videos about those little saplings growths.
Thank you. Although the majority of my tropicals shouldn’t even grow in my climate, to me, they serve as a reminder that plants are quite adaptable, given some protection.
Thank you. Specific to caimito, all of mine do appear to be quite sensitive to the cold. Mine starts defoliating when the temperature drops below 30°, as happened often in my region. My very frost caimito was killed by the frost.
Love the shirt my man! Great lesson, I want to try some of these exotics. I keep seeds from asian store fruit. What do you recommend starting with? I have lychee and Logan seeds and I just picked up the Bhutan.
Unfortunately, my in ground mangosteen and rambutan in this section of my yard succumbed to the frost, when my heater malfunctioned. I have since shifted strategy and am planting them elsewhere in my yard.
Definitely. Your climate is slightly more favorable to their growing than mine, though you’ll still want to provide protection against the summer and winter.
I’m hopeful that is the result with some of the ultra sensitive tropicals, though I really don’t see them taking our climate without protection. Then again, all of my wax jambu seedlings have done awesome against the frost and heat, and they’re supposed to be killed off when the temperature drops below 30°.
@@TropicalCentralValley We have alot of wax jambu down in southern Australia, where the weather is temperate. Malay apple, however, does not seem to as well and is more tropical.
It’s funny how my winter exposed year old mango and avocado seedlings didn’t take a hit from winter. But my Barbados cherry 2 year old air layer completely dried out. I’m just hoping it come back. It was 6’ tall. My Spanish lime seedling took a hit but my Brazilian grape tree didn’t. Didn’t protect them at all Great Videos 👍🏻
I too find trees grown from seeds tend to be hardier than grafted/air layered ones. I’ve actually lost a number of Barbados Cherry trees to the frost in previous years.
Good morning. I saw these really nice Grand Nain banana trees at Lowes. Would you recommend getting the one that has the larger diameter trunk ? One was noticeably thicker , but not as tall. It was my choice ?
For the majority of tropical fruit trees, the larger the base of the trunk, the better. This is true of banana plants as well, however, banana plants grow very, very fast. If you spot any banana plants that contains pups, I would instead grab those as you are getting two plants for the price of one.
@@TropicalCentralValley thank you for the tips. 10 years ago when I wasn't into fruit trees, I was given a red banana tree. No bananas after 2 years. I cut the pups away, not knowing they are the future crops. I gave it away lol. Now I'm more in the know and research all my trees and plants
Nice! I live about 20 minutes from you in the same zone, but would never try anything like this. Instead, I have to travel to SE Asia if I want a manggis or rambutan fix. But it would be great if these would fruit locally, even if it took some careful management. I look forward to seeing how these two progress!
Not sure if you’ve been to some ethnic grocery stores in Fresno, but they often carry fresh tropical fruits, including mangosteen, rambutan, durian, etc. The one I typically stop by is TC Fresh Meat. Be prepare to pay for the fruits though. I recall paying $100 for a small durian.
@@TropicalCentralValley Oh, I have, and purchased a few durians over the years, but that kind of thing is generally quite pricey. It would be so much more fun and gratifying to grow them myself! I've always assumed none of these tropical things would do well here (I'm pretty sure durian would be impossible given its growing requirements), so I look forward to see how your mangosteen and rambutan turn out. I may have to eat my words!
Good luck with your project! I had multiple one year old Jackfruit, Cheena, and Caimitos placed in my shade house over the winter, and they don't look like they are going to make it. I probably should have left them in my grow house for another year. Next time.
Hi my son and I are at Lowes. One of the GrNd Nain trees has double trees with one pup. The rest are sturdy single trees no pups. Can or should I get the double trees ? Should I separate them or plant together ? Thanks for your tropical expertise ?
@@TropicalCentralValley great, we got the double tree with a pup. My son thinks I am going crazy getting new trees. The last 3 are tropical. I'm excited !!! What's gonna be next ?
@@TropicalCentralValley I have a spot that I was going to put the banana trees that gets the morning sun for 5 or 6 hours, then gets shade. How far apart should I plant the 2 banana trees, after I split them apart ? Thanks
If able to, seek a spot that gets as much sun as possible. 5-6 hours may not be enough to produce fruits. Bear in mind, the variety you have is about 8 feet tall when matured. With banana, give them as much space as you can. They will produce a lot of pups.
@@TropicalCentralValley ol thanks. I'm in Cerritos 10b. We get some hot days 95° to 110° on occasions. I read the 6 hours min sun, preferably the morning sun vs afternoon would be ok. Now I'm pondering to put them in a more sunny area. Unfortunately those areas in my yard can get windy. Maybe put one in my original site and one in a more sunny area ? I really respect your advice. Thank you for all your communication with me
I really hope that they survive. I don't even think about growing these picky plants because it just takes one super hot day or one cold night to finish them. I mean Man look at your papaya leaves although it's way tougher lol Anyway wish you great results with your experiment.
Thank you. Although true that all it takes is an extremely frosty night or an intense heatwave will kill off some of these tropicals, as the tropicals grow and mature, their hardiness increases every year. Who knows, perhaps in 10 years I may be able to clone branches from the rambutan and mangosteen trees whose parent trees have already acclimated to our climate.
Not really. For this reason, I have several backups. All of my seedlings in containers are fine, but I keep trying to see how they perform in the ground.
Thanks. USDA Zone 9b. I wouldn’t use the minimal temperature as a baseline, instead, in addition to our freezes, our summers are routinely 115°, with 20% humidity.
@@TropicalCentralValley I'm in Sydney. Climate wise not much difference from yours. More consistent warm than spikes of overly hot days like yours though. I have been having an urge to get a rambutan and keep it in container for its first few year but the main concern is in winter temperatures in my place could drop below 5 and I don't have hot house. Not sure if rambutan can survive
In that case, if you’re able to maintain a minimum of at least 5°C, the seedling may make it through the winter months, but ideally they much prefer a consistent temperature around 32°C.
Omg, rambutanh and mangustein are one of my favourite beside custard and all the fruite plants you have . I would like to have fruite garden just like yours, but Unfortunately England agriculture are not as daring as un8nited state, to bare rooted this fruite. Weep weep
That’s a bummer. I’m not too familiar with England weather, but I know there are a number of folks growing various tropical fruit trees in greenhouses and indoors. Granted the trees aren’t going to be able to reach their full potential, but they should at least provide some fruits.
Thank you. There’s been many failures, however, there too has been some success. I had thought about growing the Malayan variety coconut as they are quite cold hardy, however, have backed out for several reason, including the size of the palm tree (I’ve out of yard space) as well as the availability of coconut fruits which are easily obtained at our local grocery stores.
Specific to the seedling, I later determined it not to be a purple mangosteen, but instead, looking at the foliage and growth I suspect it to be a wax jambu seedling. However, my rambutan and durian seedlings seem to be loving the heat though.
Hope they survive! Love your collection. Also, have you thought of trying cacao too? If you can google my average temperatures (Cairo, Egypt) do you think mangosteens would survive here?
Being your region is virtually free of frost, with the lowest hitting 50°F in January, there’s no reason why you can’t grow mangosteens. Though, you’ll want to try to increase the humidity. I have not tried growing a cacao tree but may in the future.
Very unlikely, perhaps, when young? Though, to control the soil requirement, you’ll want to grow it in a large container and keep upsizing it as it grows. This makes protecting the tree easier.
I’ve been unable to find any nurseries that carry grafted mangosteen or rambutan. I know Champa on very rare occasions sells grafted rambutan, however, the times I’ve stopped by, they do not have any.
@@TropicalCentralValley Longan was farther away. I am going to get a 15 gallon from FL, should not be too high (like Cali prices) and plant in the sweet spot next to Loquat tree. It should make it in that location. We had two weeks jumping into the 80's and then a bishslap of 25f! Drew everything out and killed it off. Worst Winter in over 10 years, right as I am in second year of project.
I recommend you put wire so gopher can't get to your young trees . All it takes is one gopher and you will lose years of growing a tree. They are the worst when they find your fruit trees!
Thank you for the tip. I actually do not have any ground pests, including gophers or moles. The worst offenders I have are probably outdoor rats and birds that like to munch on ripen fruits.
You don't find that watering more frequently and little cause salt build up since our water is high in mineral and ph? In AZ they all suggested to do deep watering to flush the salt down deep.
In my climate, according to my water company reports, our tap water has virtually no salt, averaging around 26 parts per million (ppm).
For comparison, it is not advised to water mango trees with salt levels higher than 200-300 ppm, however, most agree that their “maximum” limit is about 2,000 ppm.
For this purpose, due to my water quality, it is not an issue. Additionally, I do use in-line filters that take out heavy metal and other contaminants.
@@TropicalCentralValley lucky you... its 200-300 here in AZ. Lol, no wonder my mangos sucks big time.
That’s a bummer. I know there are a good number of individuals in Arizona that has awesome mango trees.
Although many of my mango trees do well in my climate, there are some varieties that aren’t a huge fan of the cold. Unfortunately, our winters are true to seed when it comes to USDA Zones.
Your shirt is great and gave me a laugh :) Thank you for continuing to push boundaries. Some plant ranges seem very out of date and I wonder how accurate they really are. We never know until we try. Every seed has the potential to be "the one"
Thank you. Unfortunately, as our planet warms up, it is increasingly easier to grow most tropicals in colder climate.
Thank you for sharing the video.
I also grow tropical fruits in Japan.
Your video is helpful. Thank you.
That’s wonderful. It always nice to meet another tropical fruit grower.
Very nice and good luck! Always exciting to see newly planted trees in the ground. Hope they will adapt to the in-ground conditions well. Then we will have the first successful living proof of growing mangosteen in NorCa:) I am germinating mangosteen seeds now. Looking forward to more follow up videos about those little saplings growths.
That’s awesome. Mangosteens can be hard to propagate from seeds, as most “fresh” mangosteen fruits have been treated when entering the States.
Wonderfull video
Thank you.
Some great experiments you have going on 👍
Thank you. Although the majority of my tropicals shouldn’t even grow in my climate, to me, they serve as a reminder that plants are quite adaptable, given some protection.
Very nice I have a hard time with those and I live in 10a the Caimito seems alot more cold tolerant than given credit for
Thank you.
Specific to caimito, all of mine do appear to be quite sensitive to the cold. Mine starts defoliating when the temperature drops below 30°, as happened often in my region.
My very frost caimito was killed by the frost.
I hope your plants are doing well. You said your mangosteen turned out not to be one?! Have you tried to replace it?
Yes, I have numerous purple mangosteen seeds from which I’m trying to germinate. I have had some luck in the past.
Thanks for all this info 🙏 I heard that mangosteen is sensitive to transplanting. Do you know anything abou it ? 😅
As with many ultra sensitive tropical seedlings, they are. It is recommended that you get them several feet tall before transplanting.
Love the shirt my man! Great lesson, I want to try some of these exotics. I keep seeds from asian store fruit. What do you recommend starting with? I have lychee and Logan seeds and I just picked up the Bhutan.
Thank you. I would NOT recommend growing lychee from seeds as they can take 25 years to produce fruits. The longans, definitely.
@@TropicalCentralValley Thanks Gromie. J? Mystery Genetics
You’re very welcome.
Hi can you make an update on your mangosteen and rambutan?
Unfortunately, my in ground mangosteen and rambutan in this section of my yard succumbed to the frost, when my heater malfunctioned.
I have since shifted strategy and am planting them elsewhere in my yard.
@@TropicalCentralValley I can't wait for updates. I want to start trying myself in solcal.
Definitely. Your climate is slightly more favorable to their growing than mine, though you’ll still want to provide protection against the summer and winter.
Wow I’m so impressed with your longan tree!
Thank you.
I would love to see you grow the seeds from these fruits in a few years. Hopefully they pass on some cold resistant genetics!
I’m hopeful that is the result with some of the ultra sensitive tropicals, though I really don’t see them taking our climate without protection.
Then again, all of my wax jambu seedlings have done awesome against the frost and heat, and they’re supposed to be killed off when the temperature drops below 30°.
@@TropicalCentralValley We have alot of wax jambu down in southern Australia, where the weather is temperate. Malay apple, however, does not seem to as well and is more tropical.
That’s awesome. I find the wax jambu if grown from seeds tend to be hardier in the frost and heat.
It’s funny how my winter exposed year old mango and avocado seedlings didn’t take a hit from winter. But my Barbados cherry 2 year old air layer completely dried out. I’m just hoping it come back. It was 6’ tall. My Spanish lime seedling took a hit but my Brazilian grape tree didn’t. Didn’t protect them at all
Great Videos 👍🏻
I too find trees grown from seeds tend to be hardier than grafted/air layered ones. I’ve actually lost a number of Barbados Cherry trees to the frost in previous years.
Good morning. I saw these really nice Grand Nain banana trees at Lowes. Would you recommend getting the one that has the larger diameter trunk ? One was noticeably thicker , but not as tall. It was my choice ?
For the majority of tropical fruit trees, the larger the base of the trunk, the better. This is true of banana plants as well, however, banana plants grow very, very fast. If you spot any banana plants that contains pups, I would instead grab those as you are getting two plants for the price of one.
@@TropicalCentralValley thank you for the tips. 10 years ago when I wasn't into fruit trees, I was given a red banana tree. No bananas after 2 years. I cut the pups away, not knowing they are the future crops. I gave it away lol. Now I'm more in the know and research all my trees and plants
Nice! I live about 20 minutes from you in the same zone, but would never try anything like this. Instead, I have to travel to SE Asia if I want a manggis or rambutan fix. But it would be great if these would fruit locally, even if it took some careful management. I look forward to seeing how these two progress!
Not sure if you’ve been to some ethnic grocery stores in Fresno, but they often carry fresh tropical fruits, including mangosteen, rambutan, durian, etc.
The one I typically stop by is TC Fresh Meat. Be prepare to pay for the fruits though. I recall paying $100 for a small durian.
@@TropicalCentralValley Oh, I have, and purchased a few durians over the years, but that kind of thing is generally quite pricey. It would be so much more fun and gratifying to grow them myself! I've always assumed none of these tropical things would do well here (I'm pretty sure durian would be impossible given its growing requirements), so I look forward to see how your mangosteen and rambutan turn out. I may have to eat my words!
Specific to durian, I suspect it to be slightly easier to grow than the mangosteen, though, not by much.
Straight Outta Compost 😂🤣
Yeah, it’s one of my favorite, an eye catcher.
Did your rambutan survive?
Yes, though you’re currently inside my heated greenhouse.
Good luck with your project! I had multiple one year old Jackfruit, Cheena, and Caimitos placed in my shade house over the winter, and they don't look like they are going to make it. I probably should have left them in my grow house for another year. Next time.
What area are you in?
I’m in Visalia, CA.
Hi my son and I are at Lowes. One of the GrNd Nain trees has double trees with one pup. The rest are sturdy single trees no pups. Can or should I get the double trees ? Should I separate them or plant together ? Thanks for your tropical expertise ?
I’d go for the one with multiple pups. You’re getting 3 for the price of 1. Banana plants are super easy to separate and grow.
@@TropicalCentralValley great, we got the double tree with a pup. My son thinks I am going crazy getting new trees. The last 3 are tropical. I'm excited !!! What's gonna be next ?
@@TropicalCentralValley I have a spot that I was going to put the banana trees that gets the morning sun for 5 or 6 hours, then gets shade. How far apart should I plant the 2 banana trees, after I split them apart ? Thanks
If able to, seek a spot that gets as much sun as possible. 5-6 hours may not be enough to produce fruits.
Bear in mind, the variety you have is about 8 feet tall when matured. With banana, give them as much space as you can. They will produce a lot of pups.
@@TropicalCentralValley ol thanks. I'm in Cerritos 10b. We get some hot days 95° to 110° on occasions. I read the 6 hours min sun, preferably the morning sun vs afternoon would be ok. Now I'm pondering to put them in a more sunny area. Unfortunately those areas in my yard can get windy. Maybe put one in my original site and one in a more sunny area ? I really respect your advice. Thank you for all your communication with me
I really hope that they survive. I don't even think about growing these picky plants because it just takes one super hot day or one cold night to finish them. I mean Man look at your papaya leaves although it's way tougher lol Anyway wish you great results with your experiment.
Thank you. Although true that all it takes is an extremely frosty night or an intense heatwave will kill off some of these tropicals, as the tropicals grow and mature, their hardiness increases every year.
Who knows, perhaps in 10 years I may be able to clone branches from the rambutan and mangosteen trees whose parent trees have already acclimated to our climate.
Have you had success with rambutan?
Not really. For this reason, I have several backups. All of my seedlings in containers are fine, but I keep trying to see how they perform in the ground.
@@TropicalCentralValley good luck with those. What is the min temp in your area?
Thanks. USDA Zone 9b. I wouldn’t use the minimal temperature as a baseline, instead, in addition to our freezes, our summers are routinely 115°, with 20% humidity.
@@TropicalCentralValley I'm in Sydney. Climate wise not much difference from yours. More consistent warm than spikes of overly hot days like yours though. I have been having an urge to get a rambutan and keep it in container for its first few year but the main concern is in winter temperatures in my place could drop below 5 and I don't have hot house. Not sure if rambutan can survive
In that case, if you’re able to maintain a minimum of at least 5°C, the seedling may make it through the winter months, but ideally they much prefer a consistent temperature around 32°C.
Omg, rambutanh and mangustein are one of my favourite beside custard and all the fruite plants you have .
I would like to have fruite garden just like yours, but Unfortunately England agriculture are not as daring as un8nited state, to bare rooted this fruite.
Weep weep
That’s a bummer. I’m not too familiar with England weather, but I know there are a number of folks growing various tropical fruit trees in greenhouses and indoors. Granted the trees aren’t going to be able to reach their full potential, but they should at least provide some fruits.
Your making history happen right now! Have you ever tried growing coconut?
Thank you. There’s been many failures, however, there too has been some success.
I had thought about growing the Malayan variety coconut as they are quite cold hardy, however, have backed out for several reason, including the size of the palm tree (I’ve out of yard space) as well as the availability of coconut fruits which are easily obtained at our local grocery stores.
Did you completely get rid of your ice cream banana plant?
No, I transplanted them elsewhere.
How's ur mangosteen tree doing in the summer?
Specific to the seedling, I later determined it not to be a purple mangosteen, but instead, looking at the foliage and growth I suspect it to be a wax jambu seedling.
However, my rambutan and durian seedlings seem to be loving the heat though.
Once that Guamúchil takes off, keep it tightly pruned, unless you don't mind it towering over everything else 😊
Fortunately, the frost keeps it at a respectable height. I agree with your statements if it weren’t for the frost.
How are they doing now?
Yeah, not so good. I have a heater malfunction in the greenhouse with the temperature dropping down to 33°F.
Hope they survive! Love your collection.
Also, have you thought of trying cacao too? If you can google my average temperatures (Cairo, Egypt) do you think mangosteens would survive here?
Being your region is virtually free of frost, with the lowest hitting 50°F in January, there’s no reason why you can’t grow mangosteens.
Though, you’ll want to try to increase the humidity.
I have not tried growing a cacao tree but may in the future.
@@TropicalCentralValley it drops to the absolute lowest to 43 F for only 1 day through the year for 3 hours.. would that kill them?
Very unlikely, perhaps, when young? Though, to control the soil requirement, you’ll want to grow it in a large container and keep upsizing it as it grows. This makes protecting the tree easier.
Are you planning to put a Durian in ground also for this experiment?
Yes. My old durian seedling died from scale insects. As soon as I’m able to germinate more durian seeds, they too will go in the ground.
Are mangosteen true from seed??
Technically no, but I doubt people can tell the taste difference.
@@TropicalCentralValley so their not true from seed but taste almost the same
Fortunately, yes. If the parent tree was producing undesirable tasting fruits, the seedlings may be better.
@@TropicalCentralValley how long does it take if you start it from seed to get fruit 3 to 7 years??
It can take up to 12 years, depending on the climate and growing conditions.
You ever grow Jamaican Stinking Toe Fruit trees?
No, I have not. The fruit sounds interesting though.
why dont you buy Rambutan grafted and do the same with Mangosteen Iam in 9b as well but I do have a greenhouse
I’ve been unable to find any nurseries that carry grafted mangosteen or rambutan. I know Champa on very rare occasions sells grafted rambutan, however, the times I’ve stopped by, they do not have any.
ebay there is a guy that sells rambutan yellow and red
grafted
Well, one Lychee made it through Winter and has fruits on it. Longan ded....
That’s awesome. The longan didn’t make it? Thats a bummer.
@@TropicalCentralValley Longan was farther away. I am going to get a 15 gallon from FL, should not be too high (like Cali prices) and plant in the sweet spot next to Loquat tree. It should make it in that location.
We had two weeks jumping into the 80's and then a bishslap of 25f! Drew everything out and killed it off.
Worst Winter in over 10 years, right as I am in second year of project.
@@TropicalCentralValley Longan is a stump. May put in greenhouse to just use as airlayer boy.
Yeah, we experienced similar weather here. Was 85° one afternoon, then 27° the next week.
@@TropicalCentralValley I will make a video when my place looks better.
Your yard always looks perfect in the videos.
I recommend you put wire so gopher can't get to your young trees . All it takes is one gopher and you will lose years of growing a tree. They are the worst when they find your fruit trees!
Thank you for the tip. I actually do not have any ground pests, including gophers or moles. The worst offenders I have are probably outdoor rats and birds that like to munch on ripen fruits.