Sir, I have been a subscriber of yours since you first did a video on this gun years ago. You are the reason I got this. I wanted it almost a decade ago but I only got it last year. It is a truly beautiful piece of art. I thought I would end up carrying this but I just have it on display on my safe to admire. This is truly a marvelous gun.
Been watching your 327 videos for years now. Wanted one of these ever since. I found one in the wild today and picked it up for $1500 NIB. Love it so far. Slick revolver
Since your internal lock is showing rust... might be a great time to remove it! I have removed an IL in the past, and it is super easy to do. There is a gent on the interwebz who sells a "plug" that seals up the hole remaining after lock is removed. I also used this plug and installation is super easy as well. And.... yes please, keep on posting revolver content.
I’ve been a sub here for along time and I remember when the pug nose arrived & I’m happy to see it back. 8 rounds of 357 ? ALL DAY regardless of what the mall tactical ninja’s say. Thanks for sharing your second amendment tools.
Get the Pocket Holster from Simply Rugged. You introduced me to Simply Rugged via your 627 pc vid, which I also own. Love revolvers, pocket carry one as my “lead-off hitter” due to easy accessibility, with my Beretta PX4 Storm compact IWB as backup. Everyone else has their pistol as primary and pocket revolver as backup, but this how I train and what works for me.
@anonymousf454 ""THIS IS WHY THAT THERE IS A TERM FOR SUBJECTSLIKE SON OF SAM, ""THAT-TERM IS SERIALKILLER IN 🇺🇸 AMERICA, ""THECLASSIC-SERIALKILLER IS A WHITEMAN BY AMERICAN-STANDARD AND TRADITION""!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@komsomolets2623 What a are you referencing to when you say "This is the reason there is the term for serial killer"....what is the reason you are speaking of? Yea, white guys do the most serial killing...Agree
Really enjoying your revolver content. I recently got into revolvers and CZcams recommend your videos. I like your format because you point out all the little details about each revolver, grips, holsters.
After I started carrying revolvers a few years ago, I’m 98% done with semiauto pistols. I carry a 3” Colt Python in my slacks pocket mostly, a jacket pocket, and sometimes an OWB holster. Sometimes I’ll shoot one of my remaining 3 semiautomatics, and the reciprocating slide seems weird. 🤷🏼👍
""IF YOUARE A GUNOWNER, ""IT IS BEST-THAT YOU-LIVE IN A REPUBLICANSTATE LIKETEXAS OR FLORIDA, ""ALABAMA, ""OKLAHOMA, ""TENNESSEE, ""OLD-KENTUCKY, ""INDIANA, ""MAY-BE SOUTHERN-ILLINOIS""!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
""A FREESTATE OUTRIGHT IS THE-BESTSTATE, ""LIVEFREE OR DIE WITH MY GUN IN MY HAND, ""FROM MY COLD-DEADHANDS, ""JOHN BROWN WOULDHAVE LOVED-THAT, ""JOHN BROWN WAS THEBEST EVER, ""HE FOUGHT FOR THERIGHTS OF THEPEOPLE""!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just got my 327 after months and months of searching for one. I paid full MSRP of $1549, so they are expensive and hard to find. Still deciding on holsters. Want a IWB for carry and an OWB for carry while out in the countryside.
Was buying all sorts of pistols, and rifles, and ammo , and shooting twice a month or so, before the pandemic. Now, all my stuff just sits. Stuff is way too high. Started buying motorcycles. Even got a nice R1 for fun runs.
My second most carried revolver after the 340pd. Unfortunately I need the seed my 327 to s&w for a new cylinder. I bought it used with slight cylinder erosion but it's slowly getting worse. Hopefully s&w can take care of it in a reasonable amount of time
i believe they will take care of that no questions asked...someone just stated they sent a wheelie back to them for warranty and it took just about 2 months to get it back. that is a huge delay as they use to be able to turn things around in 14-18 business days. I think there is a lot of changes happening there as I've been told quality is so-so now. like they are letting things go out the door with cosmetic issues to things not installed properly! ugh...please keep me updated on how long it takes to get your 327 back!
Add another who has lusted after this revolver since its introduction. That lust was fueled by your many well done videos on the little “Pug”. 2024 the stars aligned and I had the dinero when not one…but two popped up at my LGS. Picked my Pug up for $100 below msrp plus the $75 S&W Wheel gun rebate. Have an Andrews Leather Carjacker holster coming and bought a BMT Mooner moon clip loader/unloader to make the range time more enjoyable. A fantastic revolver. The only other pistol that points as naturally and gives me a smile is a 1911. Selling all my black plastic clown guns…the ugly Pug has put them all out to pasture. Thanks “TheOl1911” for keeping me primed for picking one up. Any of you guys on the fence, hop off…the Pug is worth every penny.
Sounds awesome! Good to hear the PUG is still going strong in 2024. It's interesting as just recently a lot o people are asking me "What is the point of this gun, why is it being made" strange. I guess I'll have to address that. Glad you got one as everyone keeps telling me they are not easy to get and tons of FFLs are trying to mark this model up from MSRP which is sucky. I know plastic is just ehhhhhh but I do admit they are what is the most popular out there for various reasons. Hell I have a bunch and train with a Glock that has a red dot on it (long story). But yes wheelies and 1911s are my passion! Enjoy the Pug!
@@TheOl1911 It’s nutz. MSRP is $1549 right now and you’ll find a couple listed new and USED for $1800 to $2000. S&W only does limited runs on the Pug, but that’s still some painful price gouging. I’m lucky I have an honest dealer. I could’ve sold mine the next day for a handy profit. Just for anyone interested, the turn time on my $75 S&W rebate was 2 weeks. Last, I think if it’s not a daily carry piece…the “why do they make it?” has validity. Range toy it is not. Otherwise one might just look at it as a limited edition collector’s piece. Maybe.
I’m a newer revolver owner/shooter. Picked up a S&W 642 couple weeks ago. After 50 rounds my wrist and hand was pissed for a few days. Was curious what the silver pill shaped platform is above your speed loaders? Have never seen whatever it is. Looks like some sort of something for the 8 rounds. Great video. Amazing revolver. S&W never ceases to amaze.
I bet the Dragnet guys would have loved that back in the day. Love my S&W 357 8 shot, 4" barrel, but.. this is a sweet concealed carry, with plenty of punch , and at 20 , 30, ft. what else do you need?
If I remember correctly that 357 Gold Dot load runs about 1000 fps making it a low recoiling load. Sounds like an excellent load for the 327. Thanks for the video.
I would like to know more about the erosion issues? Have they been resolved since you got the cylinder replaced from Smith and Wesson? Do you still have erosion issues??? To be honest it kind of turns me off of a revolver like this knowing that they have such an issue. I read articles and different things and from what I can tell erosion is bound to happen but may be you haven’t had the issue since you had the cylinder replaced? Could you please comment back and elaborate. I don’t see too many responses to come in so I’m hoping to hear something back from you, thank you
Bought this for my wife after several failed attempts to get her into very high-end 2011s and polymers before that. Simple for a lady who doesn't train often and forgets all the pistol manipulation training they received the day prior at the range :-) In short, buy this for your wife and forget about it.
Awesome video, as always! As to price or value, the value of ANYTHING is whatever the purchaser is willing to pay for it. I love the m1911a1, but I haven't carried a semi, ANY semi since June 2014 when I bought my Smith & Wesson 442. As of now, my carry rotation is a Charter Arms Undercover, a Charter Arms Police Undercover, a Rock Island Armory m 206, and a Taurus 856 Ultra Lite. Their cost COMBINED is about 1/2 the cost of ONE new Pugnose, but they all go bang when I press the trigger. But, to each their own.
Thanks for a very thorough review of your Pug! Especially your use of the various rounds and the affects that some had on the revolver, and your positive experience with S&W Performance Center repairs. What are those spots on the frame? Anything more than $1250 is a total rip for that revolver. I hope to find one. Thanks and Blessings!
I can't find one! Need to get this in hand to compare with the S&W 340PD as an EDC. I like that you added new grips which look to have narrowed the 1.8" height difference; that 0.5" width would be another concern to get a feel for. Thanks for the upload. If anybody know a shop with one in stock please share.
I think a good revolver pancake holster is pretty smooth on the inside towards the body. In other words the bulge for the cylinder is more pronounced on the outside face.
I'm not afraid to say it...this is better than a Glock! Ha! Think about it. Pack a few moon clips in your pocket and you'll load it quicker, fire it quicker and it won't jam. Yeah, you have to cock-a-glock! I inherited a Glock 19. I'll trade it for this masterpiece 🤧
I am but I'm finding myself carrying the 340pd even more. vid up next on that thing. it's 'combat accurate' is all i can say. It's not the most accurate gun but it gets the job done at close distance - i think I recall I was able to get decent groups at 50 feet.
2grand sounds bout right nowadays, cus I was looking for a 686 not long ago and still can't find 1 newhere near me and those are going for Luke $1000 now. Just a few years ago they were goin for between 6-700
Just bought mine..$2,000 as well… got to pick it up today but I’m a revolver guy through and through and didn’t wanna take the chance of them quitting production.
I’m thinking about buying this revolver can you give us a number? Meaning you said you put a lot rounds through this gun. What is a lot of rounds? Exactly if you don’t mind thank you.
you've mentioned in multiple videos how you have put "a lot" of rounds through this gun, and you have never given an estimated number. are we talking 1000's? how many 1000's of rounds have you put through this gun approximately?
Man, I have been wishing for this firearm for a while now, still saving up the cash, but your story about your problems has me second guessing. Cylinder erosion after firing various ammo, timing issues, rust, and Smith says "well most people that buy this gun wont fire it much" as if that's normal and reasonable. I am not a gun collector, I just want a few tools that are hardy and reliable (especially for the insane price of this one). Anyways I like your videos, thanks for making updates on this gun throughout the years. If you had to estimate, how many rounds had you fired through it before experiencing those issues?
TK Custom solves it with their plug. Did the install myself along with their ext firing pin on newer 586. D&L rear combat sights…it’s sweet. But yeah I love my 625-3 prelock
Smith and wesson has an msrp of about 1300. But these things are in extremely low supply due to smith and wesson experiencing a hiccup in production as they move to a new facility. Additional, co I'd shortages have slowed up production. The secondary market has these things going up to over 2k just because people are impatient.
@jamescruse3544 an operation remaining in the same geographic location does not spare it from supply chain and production issues associated with moving another major facet of the company elsewhere.
So Smith said the revolver cylinder could not stand up to the repeated hotter loads. Yes you are correct. There are limitations on every gun. The cylinder, the feed lever or hand, the ratchet, and the cylinder stop. Yes over time with a lot of wear revolvers go out of time or they can lock up with cylinder end shake that is caused by cylinder slop/play. Worn parts need replacing. I just stick with .38Spl. +P out of my three inch snub. .357 Magnum loses a lot of velocity from a two or three inch barrel and you end up with .38Spl. +P velocities with more recoil so its better just to use .38Spl. +P loads with less recoil. Thanks for the wheel love.
I like the bloodwork gun the 627 with the 2.67 inch barrel with a full injector rod and actually that's not true with a 3in barrel you do not lose a lot I have a 686 3 in talo Edition
Purchased mine a month ago. Price tag was $1,425.00. I cried a bit and got a $50 discount. The owner of the gun shop knows me. I'm now battling to find one of those grips like yours. Not that easy of a task. Round butt combat grips are mostly out of stock. I tried the brand you suggested in a comment I made on one of your old videos. Still looking to find them.
I don’t understand why it’s so expensive. What feature demands that? Crazy. Plus it’s still a bad carry choice in terms of size and weight compared to semi-autos like the P365 (12 +1) class of 9mm guns out there.
Sir, I have been a subscriber of yours since you first did a video on this gun years ago. You are the reason I got this. I wanted it almost a decade ago but I only got it last year. It is a truly beautiful piece of art. I thought I would end up carrying this but I just have it on display on my safe to admire. This is truly a marvelous gun.
that's great to hear! and glad you finally got one! definitely a unique looking and unique build revolver from Smith!
Same here!! From day 1 and buy it to
Been watching your 327 videos for years now. Wanted one of these ever since. I found one in the wild today and picked it up for $1500 NIB. Love it so far. Slick revolver
Heck ya! Bust that rust and put the ol' Pug Nose back on duty! 👍👍
Since your internal lock is showing rust... might be a great time to remove it! I have removed an IL in the past, and it is super easy to do. There is a gent on the interwebz who sells a "plug" that seals up the hole remaining after lock is removed. I also used this plug and installation is super easy as well. And.... yes please, keep on posting revolver content.
I’ve been a sub here for along time and I remember when the pug nose arrived & I’m happy to see it back. 8 rounds of 357 ? ALL DAY regardless of what the mall tactical ninja’s say. Thanks for sharing your second amendment tools.
327, not 357.
@@MrJC7071 it shoots 357 & model 327.
"Friends don't let friends buy Glocks"; there are better options! 🤠
one of my favorite revolvers ... i do not own it, but always wanted one ... there is no time limit to review this weapon, its timeless
Get the Pocket Holster from Simply Rugged. You introduced me to Simply Rugged via your 627 pc vid, which I also own. Love revolvers, pocket carry one as my “lead-off hitter” due to easy accessibility, with my Beretta PX4 Storm compact IWB as backup. Everyone else has their pistol as primary and pocket revolver as backup, but this how I train and what works for me.
I picked up one of these today for $1499.
Got my 642 P.C. sweet little thing.
""SON OF SAM WAS-EFFICIANT WITH HISREVOLVER THE .44-SPECIAL""!!!!!!!!
Probably mostly from ambush or facing an unarmed adversary. Anything works from that standpoint
@anonymousf454 ""THIS IS WHY THAT THERE IS A TERM FOR SUBJECTSLIKE SON OF SAM, ""THAT-TERM IS SERIALKILLER IN 🇺🇸 AMERICA, ""THECLASSIC-SERIALKILLER IS A WHITEMAN BY AMERICAN-STANDARD AND TRADITION""!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@anonymousf454 ""THE-INNOCENT VICTIM IS AN UNARMED ADVERSARY""?????
@@anonymousf454 ""HOWCAN THEVICTIM BE THEUNARMED-ADVERSARY""?????
@@komsomolets2623 What a are you referencing to when you say "This is the reason there is the term for serial killer"....what is the reason you are speaking of? Yea, white guys do the most serial killing...Agree
Really enjoying your revolver content. I recently got into revolvers and CZcams recommend your videos. I like your format because you point out all the little details about each revolver, grips, holsters.
I like the blood work gun the 627
Love
This gun! Watched your channel back in the day …finally got one and it’s in my carry rotation…🤩🤘🏻
After I started carrying revolvers a few years ago, I’m 98% done with semiauto pistols. I carry a 3” Colt Python in my slacks pocket mostly, a jacket pocket, and sometimes an OWB holster. Sometimes I’ll shoot one of my remaining 3 semiautomatics, and the reciprocating slide seems weird. 🤷🏼👍
""IF YOUARE A GUNOWNER, ""IT IS BEST-THAT YOU-LIVE IN A REPUBLICANSTATE LIKETEXAS OR FLORIDA, ""ALABAMA, ""OKLAHOMA, ""TENNESSEE, ""OLD-KENTUCKY, ""INDIANA, ""MAY-BE SOUTHERN-ILLINOIS""!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
""A FREESTATE OUTRIGHT IS THE-BESTSTATE, ""LIVEFREE OR DIE WITH MY GUN IN MY HAND, ""FROM MY COLD-DEADHANDS, ""JOHN BROWN WOULDHAVE LOVED-THAT, ""JOHN BROWN WAS THEBEST EVER, ""HE FOUGHT FOR THERIGHTS OF THEPEOPLE""!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kool story grampa...
The extended mags work great in that antique....
They are so great that police departments went from semi-auto to revolvers...
I remember when you did a review on this. Awesome review thanks.
Just got my 327 after months and months of searching for one. I paid full MSRP of $1549, so they are expensive and hard to find. Still deciding on holsters. Want a IWB for carry and an OWB for carry while out in the countryside.
Lobo are still excellent under the new owners. I carry mostly with lobo holsters they’re perfect
Was buying all sorts of pistols, and rifles, and ammo , and shooting twice a month or so, before the pandemic. Now, all my stuff just sits. Stuff is way too high. Started buying motorcycles. Even got a nice R1 for fun runs.
I’m looking at the LOBO gun leather appendix holster for my Colt King Cobra.
Awesome! Again! I bought the Bloodworks instead. I love it.
""IT WAS-DESIGNED FORSWAT-POLICE""!!!!!!
Truth be known, the 2 hidden hammer snubbies I have, don't have the capacity of this, but , the no snag draw is nice.
My second most carried revolver after the 340pd. Unfortunately I need the seed my 327 to s&w for a new cylinder. I bought it used with slight cylinder erosion but it's slowly getting worse. Hopefully s&w can take care of it in a reasonable amount of time
i believe they will take care of that no questions asked...someone just stated they sent a wheelie back to them for warranty and it took just about 2 months to get it back. that is a huge delay as they use to be able to turn things around in 14-18 business days. I think there is a lot of changes happening there as I've been told quality is so-so now. like they are letting things go out the door with cosmetic issues to things not installed properly! ugh...please keep me updated on how long it takes to get your 327 back!
Add another who has lusted after this revolver since its introduction. That lust was fueled by your many well done videos on the little “Pug”. 2024 the stars aligned and I had the dinero when not one…but two popped up at my LGS. Picked my Pug up for $100 below msrp plus the $75 S&W Wheel gun rebate. Have an Andrews Leather Carjacker holster coming and bought a BMT Mooner moon clip loader/unloader to make the range time more enjoyable. A fantastic revolver. The only other pistol that points as naturally and gives me a smile is a 1911. Selling all my black plastic clown guns…the ugly Pug has put them all out to pasture. Thanks “TheOl1911” for keeping me primed for picking one up. Any of you guys on the fence, hop off…the Pug is worth every penny.
Sounds awesome! Good to hear the PUG is still going strong in 2024. It's interesting as just recently a lot o people are asking me "What is the point of this gun, why is it being made" strange. I guess I'll have to address that. Glad you got one as everyone keeps telling me they are not easy to get and tons of FFLs are trying to mark this model up from MSRP which is sucky. I know plastic is just ehhhhhh but I do admit they are what is the most popular out there for various reasons. Hell I have a bunch and train with a Glock that has a red dot on it (long story). But yes wheelies and 1911s are my passion! Enjoy the Pug!
@@TheOl1911 It’s nutz. MSRP is $1549 right now and you’ll find a couple listed new and USED for $1800 to $2000. S&W only does limited runs on the Pug, but that’s still some painful price gouging. I’m lucky I have an honest dealer. I could’ve sold mine the next day for a handy profit. Just for anyone interested, the turn time on my $75 S&W rebate was 2 weeks. Last, I think if it’s not a daily carry piece…the “why do they make it?” has validity. Range toy it is not. Otherwise one might just look at it as a limited edition collector’s piece. Maybe.
Just bought a stocking dealer exclusive 686 with the 5" half lug and ahrends. I'm swapping the grips and the rear sight
I can't afford anything that light !😂
I wanted one for a long while but I'm not paying that $2k+ price now.
update... found one local for 1572 out the door. Had to have it and I'm not poor.
I’m a newer revolver owner/shooter. Picked up a S&W 642 couple weeks ago. After 50 rounds my wrist and hand was pissed for a few days. Was curious what the silver pill shaped platform is above your speed loaders? Have never seen whatever it is. Looks like some sort of something for the 8 rounds. Great video. Amazing revolver. S&W never ceases to amaze.
I bet the Dragnet guys would have loved that back in the day. Love my S&W 357 8 shot, 4" barrel, but.. this is a sweet concealed carry, with plenty of punch , and at 20 , 30, ft. what else do you need?
If I remember correctly that 357 Gold Dot load runs about 1000 fps making it a low recoiling load. Sounds like an excellent load for the 327. Thanks for the video.
I would like to know more about the erosion issues? Have they been resolved since you got the cylinder replaced from Smith and Wesson? Do you still have erosion issues??? To be honest it kind of turns me off of a revolver like this knowing that they have such an issue. I read articles and different things and from what I can tell erosion is bound to happen but may be you haven’t had the issue since you had the cylinder replaced? Could you please comment back and elaborate. I don’t see too many responses to come in so I’m hoping to hear something back from you, thank you
What brand are the speed loaders shown? (I just bought the 627 and can’t wait)
Bought this for my wife after several failed attempts to get her into very high-end 2011s and polymers before that. Simple for a lady who doesn't train often and forgets all the pistol manipulation training they received the day prior at the range :-) In short, buy this for your wife and forget about it.
Revolvers are my preferred carry.
This gun is definitely definitely worth the money it’s a super supreme revolver
Awesome video, as always! As to price or value, the value of ANYTHING is whatever the purchaser is willing to pay for it. I love the m1911a1, but I haven't carried a semi, ANY semi since June 2014 when I bought my Smith & Wesson 442. As of now, my carry rotation is a Charter Arms Undercover, a Charter Arms Police Undercover, a Rock Island Armory m 206, and a Taurus 856 Ultra Lite. Their cost COMBINED is about 1/2 the cost of ONE new Pugnose, but they all go bang when I press the trigger. But, to each their own.
I would love to see Smith and Wesson release a 3 inch barreled version of this gun. With IWB carry, I find no disadvantages to a 3 inch barrel.
I love this revolver, but I can't justify the price. My Ruger SFAR AR-10 rifle cost damn near the same price.
Thanks for a very thorough review of your Pug! Especially your use of the various rounds and the affects that some had on the revolver, and your positive experience with S&W Performance Center repairs. What are those spots on the frame? Anything more than $1250 is a total rip for that revolver. I hope to find one. Thanks and Blessings!
If it had a 3 " or, better yet, a 3.5" barrel option, like an older model 27, I would be unable to resist purchasing one.
Thinks he's a great talker.
I can't find one! Need to get this in hand to compare with the S&W 340PD as an EDC. I like that you added new grips which look to have narrowed the 1.8" height difference; that 0.5" width would be another concern to get a feel for. Thanks for the upload. If anybody know a shop with one in stock please share.
what are the best holsters for 327 or 627 snubnose? Thanks
I can’t find the 357 Gold Dot ammo anywhere 😢
Have you tried Underwood Ammo 357 MAG 125GR? Any other ammo you would recommend?
How many rounds did you get through before the cylinder flame cutting?
I think a good revolver pancake holster is pretty smooth on the inside towards the body. In other words the bulge for the cylinder is more pronounced on the outside face.
In an actual gun battle you never ever want to rely on just a semi automatic.
😀😮😀👍🏼
I am in the market for a 327
I'm not afraid to say it...this is better than a Glock! Ha! Think about it. Pack a few moon clips in your pocket and you'll load it quicker, fire it quicker and it won't jam. Yeah, you have to cock-a-glock! I inherited a Glock 19. I'll trade it for this masterpiece 🤧
I wish it were like my model 60 but an 8 shot instead of 5.
If they made the 327 in federal 327, id buy it
Are you carrying that again? I luv that thing. How accurate is it ?
I am but I'm finding myself carrying the 340pd even more. vid up next on that thing. it's 'combat accurate' is all i can say. It's not the most accurate gun but it gets the job done at close distance - i think I recall I was able to get decent groups at 50 feet.
@@TheOl1911 Very nice. Thank you. I love my S n W 642 from the Performance Center.
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Can i have a link to buy holsters?
Where are you getting $2200 price from? I got a 2nd one recently and paid 1499 from grabagun, the first one I paid $1344 for a couple of years back.
That's the gunbroker price of $1700 + fees and up.
2grand sounds bout right nowadays, cus I was looking for a 686 not long ago and still can't find 1 newhere near me and those are going for Luke $1000 now. Just a few years ago they were goin for between 6-700
Does it also use 357 bullets?
2.5 more inches on that barrel would really increase the power of that round....and i doubt it would be any harder to conceal
Just bought mine..$2,000 as well… got to pick it up today but I’m a revolver guy through and through and didn’t wanna take the chance of them quitting production.
how are you liking it?
They're at $1520 msrp now
Where is this grip from?
2 large ........not me. Man all the nice hardware one could buy.
No bullets?
I got one a few months ago paid $1800 for it
I believe retail was 1200 originally
Last week, $1279.99. MSRP ~$1599 in 2023
I’m thinking about buying this revolver can you give us a number? Meaning you said you put a lot rounds through this gun. What is a lot of rounds? Exactly if you don’t mind thank you.
you've mentioned in multiple videos how you have put "a lot" of rounds through this gun, and you have never given an estimated number. are we talking 1000's? how many 1000's of rounds have you put through this gun approximately?
1800.00$ on gun broker
After how many rounds did you experience the erosion?
Man, I have been wishing for this firearm for a while now, still saving up the cash, but your story about your problems has me second guessing. Cylinder erosion after firing various ammo, timing issues, rust, and Smith says "well most people that buy this gun wont fire it much" as if that's normal and reasonable. I am not a gun collector, I just want a few tools that are hardy and reliable (especially for the insane price of this one). Anyways I like your videos, thanks for making updates on this gun throughout the years. If you had to estimate, how many rounds had you fired through it before experiencing those issues?
why is your grip so small?
$$$$$1500 bux, no thanks, does it come with a masseuse.
Until Smith removes them useless locks, I will NEVER even consider one. I’m not alone.
TK Custom solves it with their plug. Did the install myself along with their ext firing pin on newer 586. D&L rear combat sights…it’s sweet. But yeah I love my 625-3 prelock
Smith and wesson has an msrp of about 1300. But these things are in extremely low supply due to smith and wesson experiencing a hiccup in production as they move to a new facility. Additional, co I'd shortages have slowed up production. The secondary market has these things going up to over 2k just because people are impatient.
yup want one so bad but its hard to justify when a 1911 is 850. at 2k then the thought of cylinder erosion
Yep, I originally saw them on Gunbroker going for around $2K. Waited for my local shop to get one and paid MSRP.
@@em-rx1wy nice!
Their revolver making operation isn’t moving. It’s staying in the original building.
@jamescruse3544 an operation remaining in the same geographic location does not spare it from supply chain and production issues associated with moving another major facet of the company elsewhere.
Is a pug nose the same thing as a "Roscoe?"
Is snub nose not pug nose
So Smith said the revolver cylinder could not stand up to the repeated hotter loads. Yes you are correct. There are limitations on every gun. The cylinder, the feed lever or hand, the ratchet, and the cylinder stop. Yes over time with a lot of wear revolvers go out of time or they can lock up with cylinder end shake that is caused by cylinder slop/play. Worn parts need replacing. I just stick with .38Spl. +P out of my three inch snub. .357 Magnum loses a lot of velocity from a two or three inch barrel and you end up with .38Spl. +P velocities with more recoil so its better just to use .38Spl. +P loads with less recoil. Thanks for the wheel love.
I like the bloodwork gun the 627 with the 2.67 inch barrel with a full injector rod and actually that's not true with a 3in barrel you do not lose a lot I have a 686 3 in talo Edition
@@user-rd8vp6nq8b You do lose a lot of velocity with a two inch and that is true and proven. Maybe not three inch as bad.
@@rbm6184 agree
Multiple everyday 357 loads out of 2 inch barrel hit 1100,1200,1300. While 38 out of the same 2 inch hover around 700,800.
@@jamescruse3544 Not true. +P loads are substantially higher in velocity for .38Spl. than the standard velocities you list.
I dislike the sights and titanium.
Get rid of the titanium and give it u notch sights like the j frames. Lol
I run L frames.
This does have u notch sights like the j frame doesn't it ?
Purchased mine a month ago. Price tag was $1,425.00. I cried a bit and got a $50 discount. The owner of the gun shop knows me. I'm now battling to find one of those grips like yours. Not that easy of a task. Round butt combat grips are mostly out of stock. I tried the brand you suggested in a comment I made on one of your old videos. Still looking to find them.
I don’t understand why it’s so expensive. What feature demands that? Crazy. Plus it’s still a bad carry choice in terms of size and weight compared to semi-autos like the P365 (12 +1) class of 9mm guns out there.
I wouldn't pay 220 dollars for the gun let alone the stock
Another Smith and Loser fan who knows nothing about what a quality firearm really is.
Ok