FLSUN V400: Running Klipper firmware, printing at 400mm/s, 8000mm square/s acceleration, 300C nozzle
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
- 00:00 Intro
02:38 Unbox, Setup
06:16 Test Print: XYZ Calibration Cube with $17 Voxel PLA Pro
08:24 Test Print: 3D Benchy with $17 Voxel PLA Pro and $13 Eryone PLA
09:30 Test Print: Big Ben by Mini World 3D with Eryone Metallic PLA
10:38 Test Print: Deadpool with Voxel PLA Pro
11:44 Test Print: Bearing with $13 Eryone PLA
12:18 Test Print: Rugged box with $13 Eryone ABS
13:48 Test Print: Laptop stand with $12 Eryone PETG
14:32 Test Print: Bose TV speaker mount with Qidi Nylon Carbon Fiber PA12-CF & PRILINE PC-CF
15:36 Test Print: Soft pad with Eryone $20(500g) TPU
16:02 Pros and Cons
20:22 Conclusions
Welcome back to Aurora Tech Channel. Today, I will review the FLSUN V400, a delta printer that comes with Klipper firmware. Most 3D printers you see on the market are running Marlin firmware, which can even run on an 8-bit processor, so it’s super cost-effective. Even a chip that costs a few dollars or less can run Marlin, but the trade-off is that your 3D printer would be limited by the speed of the processor, whether it’s an 8-bit processor like the ATMEGA 2560 that runs at 16Mhz on the Prusa MK3S+, or a STM 32-bit processor that you see on many other 3D printers running at 72Mhz to a little over a hundred Mhz. This is still pretty slow; so the speed and performance of the 3D printer would be limited by the processor, meaning it can only print at around 50-60mm/s or up to 120-150mm/s at most.
To install Klipper on a regular 3D printer, you will need another higher-speed processor like a Raspberry Pi 3B and 4 to run Klipper firmware. Then, use the motherboard with the slow processor as an adapter to control the stepper motors. A faster processor can provide more accurate control, resulting in higher print quality and faster print speed. However, as no one can get a Raspberry Pi at a reasonable price due to chip shortage, this discourages many users from adding Klipper to their 3D printers.
This FLSUN V400 is one of the few 3D printers in the market that come with Klipper firmware. It claims to be able to print at 400mm/s, which is really fast. I reviewed the FLSUN SuperRacer earlier this year, and it was one of the fastest printers that run Marlin firmware; it was still able to print at 150mm/s.
It looks like this V400 is a larger version of Super Racer with a few upgrades. They share some common features like the delta kinematics, a detachable auto bed leveling sensor, a 32-bit motherboard, and silent stepper drivers. There are also some upgrades. The hardware looks pretty good to me. I would like to thank FLSUN for sending me this machine to review, and with that, let’s get started.
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I don't understand why this channel doesn't have 10 times more subscribers 😮. 10/10 from me 👍
Totally agree😊
I mean…she went to 30k in one year so…not too shabby.
i think due to the owner doesnt really look like a technical guy, of course she is not a guy. losing on the thumbnail, winning on the content and systematic organization of content.
Amen
Totally impressed.. I know nothing about this yet.. well a bit more than a few minutes ago.. b up t not only the subject matter knowledge but clear and concise instruction and demonstration..bet she could even teach new privates in the army!
You are by far my favorite 3d printing channel. Great review as always!
Yep, no BS and good tips!
Great review! Seems like such a capable machine, klipper really takes it to the next level!
Your videos and reviews are truly outstanding, one of the best resources and channels there is for 3D Printing, and I too don't understand how you don't have x100 more subscribers. Thank you for all your videos!!!
Delta, Klipper, it is like second nature to you. Your explanations are spot on, you show us this world of precise and fast printing without being intimidated and you tell the manufacturer what to improve. This is another great, very well researched review. Thank you Aurora and Helios. But where are the bloopers? You have grown to over 29000 subscribers, wow.
A fantastic review, the cons are why I come here! Always so honest, no sugar coating.
Thank you for finally explaining the benefit of running Klipper (or a Raspberry Pi) and how it 'bypasses' the mainboard processor's processing limitations. That's the first time I've heard it explained that way and it makes complete sense now.
Wow! I'm floored... I've never seen so much competence in someone so young. Thanks for this great summary.
I have just installed Klipper on an original CR10 with a RPI 3b, the quality and speed improved very much and I still use the original motherboard!!!! kudos for klipper, you should try and make a video on how to resume an old 3d printer like cr10 with klipper, if you like I can give you may configuration :).
wow.. any printer can do that too?
@@gamebosan5965 I put klipper on a stock Ender 3 and hit around 80mm/sec with input shaping 😊 klipper is awesome! Did some hardware tweaks and hitting 120mm/sec on supports etc now. Definitely recommend!
@@JoshuaStone wow.. that good to hear but i still don't know how to do that.. still beginner 😅
That's how 3d printers should be reviewed!
I'm sure that very soon this channel will be the main reference for the 3D printing industry along with CNC Kitchen
Thank you very much for your hard work!
I have the FL SR and I really like it, it is fast. This is probably going to be a buy for me but I have never used Klipper before.
The fact that you have been using open printers for printing filaments that for years we were told needed an enclosure is fantastic. Most of these printers you have reviewed recently seem to be able to print just fine.
Another vote for a filament review. So many choices.
Thanks again for the quality reviews here. Great asset to the community and my credit card company is forever in your debt!
Hey, you nailed mm/s! 👏😂
This is the most thorough 3d printer reviews channel I've found, and I'm using your reviews to decide which printer to get. So thank you so much for sharing your expertise.🙏 I've watched multiple CZcams reviews on 50+ different printers, over a month-long period, and I still don't know what to get. But you guys are getting me closer than anybody else has, so I really appreciate that!🙏 Plus, unlike a lot of other channels, you're teaching which upgrades can potentially turn a printer that I checked off of my list into the printer I end up buying.
Also, the bloopers are great! You are so professional and articulate that it instantly makes you seem like a reliable authority. And then the reviews themselves validate that. But the bloopers at the end add a great balance! You two are doing such an amazing job that I would be shocked if you didn't have one of the biggest 3d printing channels on CZcams within just a couple years time. Thanks again.👋🙂
I just got a v400 and watched several set up / unboxing and review videos, and your video is the best one I found. Thanks!
Love your videos, well-detailed. Great job young lady. Keep it up!!!
Wow, the best reviewer. You're so comprehensive covering all the important aspects of the printer. It's so nice to see a review where large items are printed, thank you!
Another absolutely outstanding review! Thanks as always, and keep up the great work!
Your delivery works with my way of listening ❤ subbed 👍🏽
Great channel - great info, strait to the point with no fuss around - bungle watched several of your videos and subbed! :)
Another great video Aurora. You are an amazing knowledgeable young lady😀👍
Just came across this channel, Wow it s 3d printing gem of a channel. I have bought a second hand v400 and must say of some little maintenance, cleaning and lubing this thing is solid as a rock. So ordered the T1 and the wait is on.
Best review of the V400 out there👍🏽🍿🎥❤️⚡️
WOW Glad I found your channel very informative thank you. I just bought a speeder pad today for my QQS Pro and I found the answer to your time issue by accident lol. go to Home Screen, configuration- settings then scroll down on the right hand side until you see timezone, change the GMT here to suit your location. For me here in Western Australia I used +8 hours GMT when it reboots it will change the time. I hope this helps. Thank you. Wayne
So awesome to see young women in this hobby / industry. Keep up the good work!
Great review. Glad I found this channel
You are like a magician, always printing perfect on materials impossible to achieve on these machines
I love how you’ve simply started the video! Also, it seems like you guys have settled in your dads office!
Awesome video. This is the printer I’ve been lookin at getting. Just getting into 3D printing and this video was great. Made me excited to get the thing in.
Enjoy your reviews always very informative your content is very well presented. I pre ordered this printer and was one of the first 10 to order it I'm disappointed in Flsun logistics as they still haven't gotten this printer to me.
What an awesome video. You are a very impressive young lady! Thank you for all of this very good information.
Another great detailed video. Good job!
Aurora drops all these great bits of info (like the Elmers glue, 99% alcohol, etc) at random places in her videos, so now I feel like I have to watch _all_ her videos! Aurora, could you perhaps write one book or make one video that covers _everything_ you know about 3D printing?
Lol ; That would take up too much of her spare time , then they wouldn't be able to do these great reviews !
This is an amazing review. I'm really inclined to get a new 3d printer and looking for a delta. Thanks for the insights.
I may have to try Klipper. I have several Raspberry pi's that are from robot kits that I haven't played with in a while. I have one set up right now with Octopi. I can run my 2 Enders and 2 cameras to monitor them. Great video Aurora.
Another great review of this very large 3D printer.
Excellent young lady. Very much appreciate your knowledge about this Printer. ....I just bought one. Thanks.
This channel is just pure gold.
OMG! You are shrinking more and more ...
Finally I've been waiting for this review haha
11:14 mesmerizing 😵💫👍🏽
You do an awesome job of making this understandable to a total Noob like me. Tell them you need a raise. Great Job.
You are awesome! Thanks for the great observations and content.
I had wanted this style printer when I first began to look for a bigger printer. We had used the geometry in Military projects for Flight simulators and later in high speed Robotic assembly. I knew it had speed and accuracy but the price and print volume was limited. Now we see the 410 mm height but my God the 4 foot printer height would scare me. One thing I did not hear was price. The speed and quality is great and the parts used seem quite High Quality. You did a find review accurate, informative and you are treat to listen to. Thank You and take care, D
I think she said it was around $800.
Excellent review. You two make a great team, so I hope you continue to do so in your grownup years! ;-) Also, I think you missed one Big Con on this printer: Unlike its predecessor FLSUN-QQ-S2, the V400 "Does Not have Power Loss recovery" which can be important in this day and age of rolling blackouts!
It does have no?
I think you are the only one that didn’t point out the ream of paper that came with this printer. I would like this. By the time I can afford to get it a newer model will be out. Good points you made on the cons.
Another great review. Thank you.
Great review! Very detailed.
excellent review!
Thank you for your presentation it is the best I have seen
great review, thanks!
im waitng for mine cant wait! good video! you are very smart....
Hey Aurora! I found your channel recently and I like it very much.
If you don't mind a few suggestions from an engineer, though:
- absolutely do not prioritize infill density when evaluating the strength and/or the weight of your print, like in the case of your laptop holder. Increasing wall thickness (wall line count and/or wall line width) is way more efficient - in the sense that you can increase your part's strength by increasing the wall thickness with less material than with infill increased.
- a consequence of this is that in many cases the infill used is an overshoot. Like in the case of your Deadpool: you could've achieved the same part strength with 1 or 2 more walls, but half the infill density, and less overall material used. Furthermore, if you're only after visual quality for aesthetic (not functional) prints, you should definitely give a try to Cura's infill pattern "Lightning". It uses SO much less material, yet maximizing skin support. This of course also leads to huge time savings, besides raw material.
- why don't you try some more premium filaments instead of the $13-$17 PLA's you usually use? I understand that the costs add up for you and your brother but you could try and arrange some partnership with some higher quality brands. This could also shed more light on your stringing issues - sometimes it's not even the printer's fault, but the material that isn't of great quality.
Hope you can read my comment and tell me what you think! Happy printing!
Gracias... muy bien explicado me sacaste de muchas dudas...
Great content ! That’s the Flipper zero case your printing.
Great review - logical and straight forward. Are you looking at reviewing the new FLSUN S1 soon?
It looks sooooo giant next to you! That thing is gigantic!
Hi Aurora !, Have you figured out what is the best setting to reduce stringing for V400 ?...the stringing issue is driving me crazy. Love this review lo, very informative !!
Wonderful well made video with a very knowledgeable young woman. Thank you. Aside from that, I was hoping this printer would print with a smoother finish but apparently it does not.
Excellent video review! I have been curious about this printer from the moment Flsun announced it. I have the QQS-Pro from Flsun and enjoy it for what it is. I have two Bambu X1 Carbon with AMS and two other very entry level printers I started out with. Keep up the amazing video reviews!
Happy with the bambulab? I still dont "want" to pay 1.6k lol
Hi. Would you recommend to buy the Bambus lab x1 or the flsun v400? :)
I love the Bambu Labs X1 Carbon. It is not a perfect 3D printer but it is very much worth more than what it cost. I can't say dropping that kind of money is easy for pretty much anyone. I had the money and love 3D printing and wanted it after seeing Arora Tech's video. Sometimes you just have to spoil yourself.
@@googleaccount8578 to be honest it really depends on how you feel about 3D printing. Is it a hobby to just have fun and create things. Or do you plan on taking it further and making money from 3D printing. I would also see what other reviews are saying about both 3D printers. Flsun makes a great printer and so does Bambu Labs. I can't really recommend one over the other.
@@jeppyfrost Well the flsun is currently available here in europe for 880€ while the X1C costs 1600 :D I also thought about getting the normal X1 and just upgrade what id need. Gor example i dont care if its aluminum or plastic case or some soecific sensors... And if they release an X2 next year id be pissed😄
I bet the stringing was due to a default Z hop on retraction. I always check that setting on new profiles. Very nice printer and top notch review as always! I had the same idea for spring compressed delta ball-joints many years ago but I stalled on the project. Mine is a bit better due to ultra light components resulting in less inertial mass. I have to get back at it! I just need to find those horizontal cupped ends they use for the joints or find a way to easily fabricate some from existing components. That was what stalled the project in the first place, 3d printed components just wouldn't hold up for long. If this is something you want to pick up let me know and I'll share the details.
I agree with the previous comment, she is by far the best reviewer of 3D printers and 3 d printing products. Thank you for the great reviews.
This machine is giant and a monster 👾. Thanks again for the great information and effort you put into this 👍 ✌️ 💪 😎 🇺🇸 What is your favorite brand of filament?
Excellent video and explanation, everything is super clear, I also just bought my V400, I would like to know if it can also be used with any prusaslicer profile
Well done! Think its my next printer. 🙂
That printer might be bigger than you, excellent review!
I'm always impressed by your videos detail and careful testing. I hope Anker Make send you the M5 when it is available, have you contacted them?
I think saying this printer is 400mm/s is a bit cheeky when it's only travel moves. But if it can do 350mm/s for infill I think it could also do that speed on inner walls.
I haven't used Klipper yet, but it sounds like a pretty drastic improvement in terms of performance and usability over Marlin combined with OctoPrint. The V400 seems like the real deal, but would be hard to enclose if you want to print technical filaments like polycarbonate.
Great video, I subscribed. Now just have to decide on buying this printer or another resin printer.
Impressive young lady, dad must be proud!
GREAT video
Could you review the new Creality Sonic Pad Klipper + touchscreen upgrade for the Ender 3 S1?
Yes, I will post the Sonic Pad video on Oct 23
Should calibrate pressure advance. Deadpool timelapse shows significant overextrusion of infill on firet layers.
I love the Delta type robots. I thought about building one out of Lego. The hard part would be figuring out the algorithm for programming it. I could build it and control it manually to start off with.
I'm surprised they can be so precise. There must be zero play at the ends of the 3 arms that connect the slides on the screws and the end effector. Just a small move of the screw can move the head quickly. I just bought the Ender-3 S1 Plus and an Elegoo Saturn 2. I haven't printed anything on it yet because I am waiting to get the resin tomorrow. Now I want a Delta printer. LOL.
I just noticed in the video that the v400 doesn't seem to use a reverse bowden. I get that this avoids having that tube getting in the way as the print-head moves up, but it also means that the force of the extruder pulling on the filament has to be countered by the print-head. As the head anyway cannot get all the way to the top (because of the arms of the delta), my gut feeling would be that adding a reverse bowden would be beneficial both for the force it transfers to the fixed top, but also to keep hygroscopic filament away from the air ...
Can you share a link for your Cura (ABS/ PETG/ PLA / TPU) settings? A lot of people who review provide a brief description of settings, but a direct import would be a lot easier. Good Review of this printer!
Great video - have you tried doing a color swap ?
Love your channel.
Trying to decide between the CR-10 Smart Pro and the V400 for a printer (yes, my first. Go big or go home, as they say). Which would you suggest?
Update: Ended up getting an Ender-3 S1 Pro. So far it's going well.
I love your channel. Between the Bambu X-1 Carbon and the V400, which is your favorite?
If you want to print something taller, you need this FLSUN V400, the print volume 300(diameter)x410mm, while the X1 Carbon is a 256x256x256mm. But if you need multiple colors or want to use breakaway support filament, you need the BambuLab AMS. For printing single color regular sized model, I think the X1 still prints a little bit faster, with the Bambu Slicer, it also prints better.
Ordered mine yesterday.
My first task will be designing something to Mount on top for my filament dryer. Either that or maybe a shelf with pulleys and bearings.
Hi, could you please tell, how is your experience with flsun v400, how is the printing quality? I want to buy a good large 3d printer for helmets and large objects 👐
@@googleaccount8578 still waiting for delivery. I’ll come back and let you know once it gets here and I play with it a little.
Yeah the time zone thing baffled me today!
I looked through the settings ten times thinking I missed it but no.
The stringiness is too much, this is my first 3d printer so idk about the other.
But God damn the speed is addictive, it was so fast I was worried it's too fast!
It is a wonderful printer, but it is not quiet. The faster the arms move, the louder it gets. I can easily hear it in the room down the hall. I've also had a few major failures. After slowing the print speed down into the 250mm/s range, the print worked fine. My printer is larger so it has time and space to really speed up. Don't get me wrong, it is still a great printer, but like any 3d printer, there is lots to learn about temp, flow rates, filaments, speeds, and various other adjustments. After two weeks with the printer, I'm having a great time.
I assume this is all with a .4 nozzle. I can’t only imagine what it’ll do on a .6 or larger. Also, have you tried lowering temps to help with stringing? I also use the slicer setting that makes the head not cross perimeters.
Thank you!
Retraction issue might be Bc of the clone cht hotend?
Please test the speed pad on other printers, which is an interesting feature of this printer.
Hi thanks of the review. Can you share your cura profiles for V400?
Very cool
i didnt even know they had this one, i was just talking about picking up the sr but i gotta look into this one now. i liked the mgn12 rails on the sr how is the motion system on this one, hard to see in the video if it had the linear rails or rods. welp after seeing the price i want be getting one of these. a bit over the price im willing to spend on one plus i have to many as it is but still looks like a really nice machine. maybe i'll end up with one at some point just not anytime soon.
Have you tried connecting an accelerometer for klipper their input shaping? FLSun seems to have shipped these with a pretty good setting, but each printer likely has some variation after assembly. Maybe the quality will be higher.
These machines are very impressive… if it was just a lil bigger build plate like a 12” circle isn’t bad at all but when you are taking up so much room already vertically you might as well make it a little larger in diameter where you could at least fit a 300mm /12” square on the build plate … it’s tuff to have such a large printer and have a small bed slinger or box printer have a way larger build volume. And take up way less space …
But I would like to have a delta printer just to watch it print nothing much more satisfying than watching a delta
Can you share the profiles you used? Thanks love your content!
What is the print time for the 3D-Benchy?
Just to get a rough speed comparison with the Bambu Lab X1 Carbon.
I really like Delta printers, since they are mesmorizing, but I guess the advantages and usability are more on the side of the Bambu printer
great review!! do you know how to prevent the nozzle dragging while printing?
Always detailed & well informed. Great effort every review. Great Job!
i really like to see a V500 or a V600 on the future
Thank you for your review. I should mention for other viewers that I pre-ordered this in mid July and it has not been shipped yet, nor can I reach out to flsun because their support email address is invalid. They are still taking pre-orders so know that flsun is having trouble fulfilling existing orders.
good to know, I think I'll just wait for it to be available on Amazon
Dam so u can't reach out to anybody? They have a thousand dollars of mine lol I'm sure you too!? When was yours supposed to be shipped? That's not good news. Mine said they would ship October 10th for November oreeders but your still waiting hmmmm
Yeah...no. I'll wait until stock appears in North America.
❤Awesome, will make my SR a direct drive n also install klipper. Can the speeder pad be share controlling my SR as well if I get this V400? Thanks for making this review.
The Creality Sonic Pads with Klipper just went on sale, so I bought one to use on my S1 Plus. They expect to ship by the end of October. For a limited time, they are taking $10 off the list price. I hope Creality will send you one to review Aurora.
Yes, I will post the Sonic Pad video on Oct-23.
@@AuroraTech Thanks Aurora. I'm looking forward to watching it and getting your opinion on it.
@@AuroraTech I just got an email saying my Sonic Pad has shipped. Since it is coming from China though, it might take a few weeks before I get it.
Thanks for another great review.
I ask myself if this of the Bambu labs X1 is the better choice, what's your opinion Aurora?
If you want to print something taller, you need this FLSUN V400, the print volume 300(diameter)x410mm, while the BambuLab X1 is a 256x256x256mm. But if you need multiple colors or want to use breakaway support filament, you need the BambuLab AMS. For printing single color regular sized model, I think the X1 still prints a little bit faster, with the Bambu Slicer, it also prints better.
Thank you, have to read up on breakaway support.
Do you know of another printer that prints large parts fast and accurate? Budget 3000$/€
Klipper runs firmware retraction rather than gcode retraction. Does cura have the "use firmware retractions" check box? (I use superslicer so I'm not familiar with cura) Maybe that will help the stringing, I know with my ender 6 I chased stringing for days until I realised I hadn't enabled firmware retraction in the slicer.
Also, can you still use mainsail to control klipper? Or is it all done on the touchscreen?
This printer is bigger than her 😂. In all seriousness though, this was a great, informative review as usual
Based on your reactions seems like the FLSUN has you impressed. But curious why it’s not on one of your recommendation list of 3d printers.
Bonjour, pensez vous que des impressions sont possibles pour des pièces avec le fil carbone à 400mm/s?