If you have too much slack in the pinion shaft you can take seal housing off of front and there are different size shims behind there. Start by taking out the thinnest shim and reassemble. If still not enough simply remove another shim. Also, you can put seal in easily with retainer plate off. There is another old trick you can use if you're yoke has a worn spot where seal has been riding. Use a shoulderless seal and press it in just a little deeper an it will ride on a different spot on yoke. Good for another few hundred thousand miles.
You make some damn good videos! Cuz of you, I can mess with pretty much anything on my truck. Turns out whenever I need to fix something. I watch one of your videos. Go out and buy any tools that's your using. And basically replicate what you are doing. It's nice to have some guidance. Thank you very much for that. Have a good one.
Thanks for video it helps reminds me of a mechanic friend who taught me some about my truck I couldn’t remember some since he’s passed I don’t have anyone I can trust to work on this truck and not many like a woman telling them what she thinks is wrong!! 😤
probably the reason the pinion yoke was loose to begin with is a bad pinion bearing. iam no expert by any means just know what my brother taught me about differentials. great videos i really enjoy them.
That's a clear explanation, going to give that a try on my MAN truck, good tips on the oil level too, althrough given the leaking I had, I suspect I won't be able to reach it with my finger! :-)
try using an old 1/2 inch extension for a drift and a 3 or 4 pound hammer in that plug and give it a couple real good whacks and that should loosen it.
I know you couldnt of really waited but i wouldve highly recommended a new yoke as the yoke should not slide off that easy even with a small screwdriver and a new nut and never put oil on the outside of the seal as the blue you see is like a glue and seals the O.D. of the seal to the bearing cover and i would also recommend to never reuse the strap kit as those straps are stamped steel do stretch over the trunnions and when you reuse them can cause the trunnions to spin inside the yoke and cause you to do the job again only with a new u-joint and yoke but i know you were pressed with time
The yoke didn't slide off that easy, I cut out the 2 or 3 minutes of hammering and prying from the video. I've heard 1 or 2 people say not to put oil on the outside of the seal but I like to do it anyway to help it go in, it won't make it leak. Thanks for watching.
good job. must be pinion seal season...lol i just had to do one on my truck a few weeks ago. 1/2 inch impact is a bit small for running down your pinion nut though. torque spec is around 800 ft lbs depending on the exact application. running it down with a healthy 3/4 inch impact is common accepted practice. 1/2 might be able to run that nut down to 4-500 at best.
I done one about 6 months ago tightened it with one drive impact then torque to 1000 foot pounds with torque wrench. The impact was only about 750. I had one of those nuts loosen up and fall off and break the thru shaft on the differential so i use a torque wrench to make sure now.
for an automatic transmission on a class 8 dump truck will a power divider be sufficient for mud-snow driving, or should full differential lock (4) be utilized.
fyi not the pinion it's the input shaft the pinion is below the input on the front diff it's not uncommon to have a very small amount of movement on the front yoke the RR differential should never have any movement - keep up the good work and take care
Ha ha...at 11:56 the old seal went flying like a cork off a bottle of bubbly... Have you been topping up the diff with champagne?? Some fine work, Mr. Robertson. Bonus points for powering right through the rain, though it looks like it didn't rain too hard or last very long. Some guys doing a job like this would feel the need to use 2-and-a-half cans of brake cleaner to get rid of any evidence of the leak. Myself, I'd have wiped the excess off with a rag, and left the damp spots to act as rust inhibiter.
p.s. I wonder if greasing the U-joint lightly prior to pulling the shaft would have given more grease for the cap to have stayed in place, it fell off pretty much by gravity after it grazed the yoke as you were scooting the shaft over to the side.
That’s your thrushaft. Check your yoke for grooves as well. It should be replaced if grooved up badly. Also make sure to check for play, if it’s loose that could also be your problem
I have same problem on my truck and I went to the shop " Wayne truck and trailer ltd" 2151 S Vandermark Rd Sydney OH.... and I ask them can they fix it for me. By the way I am from Canada and when they see me hungers game begins. First they said it is bad bearing and I said ok, fix it please. Then they told me we have to open first to see the size of bearing maybe they have on stock maybe not. Again I said do it. In meantime nobody touching my truck. Two hours later guy his name is Mark telling me he find size of bearing on his computer but they don't have on stock, they need to order. I said ok, how longs is gonna take? Well we can get it by Monday morning and day when I was at the shop was Wednesday. What? Monday!!! Yes, sorry about that it is so hard to get parts right now. But we would recommend to replace differential and we can get rebuild one also on Monday. But I don't need differential I need new seal and maybe bearing. Yea but you know what when we open its could be something wrong it is better to order new differential. I was wondering how far they will go and ask what will be the price for differential? You are looking around $7000. No Sir , no thank You, please order bearing and that's it. Ok I would give you estimate soon as i get info. I said ok. I pull out my truck out of the shop because I already prepare myself to sit there until Monday and they said wait!!! You have to pay something I came back inside and $138 for diagnose and shop supply. So they tell me basically what I told them and they charging me for that. Anyway I paid my bill go outside and get bored in my truck so I decided to check some things by myself. I take it off oil check bolt from behind clean it. I take it off bolt for oil drain. Then I drain little bit of oil into the pan and put back already cleaned bolt which was on the top for oil level check to stop oil. I looked carefully into the pan no any metal pieces only metal dusty little bit on that bolt because it's magnetic bolt. Now I figurate I don't have problem with differential at all, so I took of bolt on the top of differential using for Air bread and thrue that holl I ad engine oil up to maximum. In meantime around four hours after our last conversation Mark coming back to me and saying this. I found the bearing and I can order for you but it will be here on Monday. I was pretending I am still interested and I said ok how much that gonna cost me ? He said $3000 but I would recommend you to order differential. Who knows what if is not only bearing problem then you gonna stuck more days. I told him you know what let me talk with my dispatch and I will let you know. In my company I am everything, driver, dispatch, so actually I was telling him I have to speak with my self 😀😀😀. Soon as he turn around I was ready to leave this shity place. Basically I spent all day with them for nothing when they was trying to convince me to replace differential instead of seal. So I run away to Memphis TN, finish my delivery and get loaded again going back to Canada. I only stop every 5-6 hours and add little bit of engine oil (1 gallon ) and keep going. Then I remembered Gordon have always great videos maybe I can see how he do and I found it. Thank You Gordon, you are the best. And guys please DON'T GO NEVER EVER to that shop what I wrote above, NEVER!!!
Gordon, May I respectfully ask how old you are? The reason I ask is because I am 60 years old and I like doing my own work on my truck and hope I can do it for years to come. I enjoy your videos very much. Thanks!
I'll be 62 later this summer. I see no reason why you can't do your own repairs as long as you want to. I have a neighbor friend who is a retired driver and cuts grass for about 25 people and does almost all of his own maintenance and repairs on his equipment and is in his mid 70's.
You don't have any vibration issues? Maybe that's why the seal popped. It looks like none of your yokes are timed exactly with each other on either of the longer shafts.
At least it didn't lose any needles. I started to change another u joint that didn't have clamps like this one but after about 5 minutes of beating it with a hammer and looking at the awkward position I was in, I decided to put the cap screws back in and go inside and go to Amazon and order a press for $250. and try again later.
You’re an awesome man Mr Gordon. I watch your videos all the time.
Great video, simple fix with no real special tools, just a little bit of knowledge and the where with all your for it. Thanks for sharing your time.
Thanks Ben.
You know what, Gordon? I have been blessed by these videos. I sure hope you keep making them too.
Man, thanks for passing on the knowledge.
Thank you sir.
If you have too much slack in the pinion shaft you can take seal housing off of front and there are different size shims behind there. Start by taking out the thinnest shim and reassemble. If still not enough simply remove another shim. Also, you can put seal in easily with retainer plate off. There is another old trick you can use if you're yoke has a worn spot where seal has been riding. Use a shoulderless seal and press it in just a little deeper an it will ride on a different spot on yoke. Good for another few hundred thousand miles.
Man, Gordon......I've seen you do a lot of work on that rig.......you'll have a new rig in no time......😎. Thanks for all the videos.
You make some damn good videos! Cuz of you, I can mess with pretty much anything on my truck. Turns out whenever I need to fix something. I watch one of your videos. Go out and buy any tools that's your using. And basically replicate what you are doing. It's nice to have some guidance. Thank you very much for that. Have a good one.
Thanks for watching Sean.
Thank you sir you inspired me to change it on my century my self God bless 🙏
I hope it works out good for you sir.
I gotta do this deep in the bush tomorrow. Gave the perfect information. Thanks
Thanks for video it helps reminds me of a mechanic friend who taught me some about my truck I couldn’t remember some since he’s passed I don’t have anyone I can trust to work on this truck and not many like a woman telling them what she thinks is wrong!! 😤
Thanks for watching and commenting
Really appreciate the video such a good watch I truly enjoyed looking for more videos I’m about to look through your playlist thank you very much
Me and my sons love your videos
probably the reason the pinion yoke was loose to begin with is a bad pinion bearing. iam no expert by any means just know what my brother taught me about differentials. great videos i really enjoy them.
That's a clear explanation, going to give that a try on my MAN truck, good tips on the oil level too, althrough given the leaking I had, I suspect I won't be able to reach it with my finger! :-)
Good video. Just did this on a diesel pickup truck. Same job just a little bigger. Not much though.
Diesel mechanic myself and I understand when shops don't wanna buy specialized tools for jobs like these...need to Fab up our own tools...
Genius idea for the engine lift jack... I have same creaper in my headache rack
another great video gordon, thanks again!
Thanks Cody.
Special thanks from my old 97 FLD to you, Mr Gordon
Awesome video Gordon, very helpful, thanks.
Thanks for watching.
Harbor freight has patio umbrellas on sale sometimes. They're great for shade and drizzle and cheap enough to get dirty.
😀😊👍🏼 Excellent Job I Enjoy These Videos Gordon
Thanks Chris.
Great 👍 video Gordon!
Thanks for this awesome video! Keep it coming!
Great job. Thanks for another great video
Thank you sir.
Great job! Well done.😀👍
You are fortunate your diff plug came out. I have one that’s giving me trouble. :/ Nice video!
try using an old 1/2 inch extension for a drift and a 3 or 4 pound hammer in that plug and give it a couple real good whacks and that should loosen it.
I know you couldnt of really waited but i wouldve highly recommended a new yoke as the yoke should not slide off that easy even with a small screwdriver and a new nut and never put oil on the outside of the seal as the blue you see is like a glue and seals the O.D. of the seal to the bearing cover and i would also recommend to never reuse the strap kit as those straps are stamped steel do stretch over the trunnions and when you reuse them can cause the trunnions to spin inside the yoke and cause you to do the job again only with a new u-joint and yoke but i know you were pressed with time
The yoke didn't slide off that easy, I cut out the 2 or 3 minutes of hammering and prying from the video. I've heard 1 or 2 people say not to put oil on the outside of the seal but I like to do it anyway to help it go in, it won't make it leak. Thanks for watching.
good job. must be pinion seal season...lol i just had to do one on my truck a few weeks ago. 1/2 inch impact is a bit small for running down your pinion nut though. torque spec is around 800 ft lbs depending on the exact application. running it down with a healthy 3/4 inch impact is common accepted practice. 1/2 might be able to run that nut down to 4-500 at best.
I done one about 6 months ago tightened it with one drive impact then torque to 1000 foot pounds with torque wrench. The impact was only about 750. I had one of those nuts loosen up and fall off and break the thru shaft on the differential so i use a torque wrench to make sure now.
Thanks for the video.
What sealant do you recommend for the house covered
for an automatic transmission on a class 8 dump truck will a power divider be sufficient for mud-snow driving, or should full differential lock (4) be utilized.
Either way if you get stuck.
Thanks for the vid really helped a lot.
Its trouble when that shift don't wanna slide in or out lol
fyi not the pinion it's the input shaft the pinion is below the input on the front diff it's not uncommon to have a very small amount of movement on the front yoke the RR differential should never have any movement - keep up the good work and take care
Thanks.
Ha ha...at 11:56 the old seal went flying like a cork off a bottle of bubbly... Have you been topping up the diff with champagne?? Some fine work, Mr. Robertson. Bonus points for powering right through the rain, though it looks like it didn't rain too hard or last very long. Some guys doing a job like this would feel the need to use 2-and-a-half cans of brake cleaner to get rid of any evidence of the leak. Myself, I'd have wiped the excess off with a rag, and left the damp spots to act as rust inhibiter.
p.s. I wonder if greasing the U-joint lightly prior to pulling the shaft would have given more grease for the cap to have stayed in place, it fell off pretty much by gravity after it grazed the yoke as you were scooting the shaft over to the side.
More grease probably would have helped.
I used diesel to clean the gear case, only in front where I was working, I think I did spray some brake cleaner on after wiping off the diesel.
Thanks!
You make it look so ez...good video
Thanks for watching.
you can go online and google harbor fright coupon and get an extra 20% off just email it to your self and they can scan it when you check out ?
What do you call the seal on the back side of the front diff? I have fluid leaking from the inside of the yoke.
That’s your thrushaft. Check your yoke for grooves as well. It should be replaced if grooved up badly. Also make sure to check for play, if it’s loose that could also be your problem
We just set up your videos in our shop or a big screen TV A part of our playlist so not only that we watch it our customers watch it to
You need a shop working outside sucks your a good mechanic 👍
Thanks for watching.
Great video mr. Robertson. Was this an Eaton rear? I need to do one on my Pete.
It's the same procedure on any of them. Thanks for watching.
Good work
I was just curious if that play in the yoke was from the bearing? I didnt see you check for play post repair
The play was fixed on another video after replacing the power divider and shims.
I have same problem on my truck and I went to the shop " Wayne truck and trailer ltd" 2151 S Vandermark Rd Sydney OH.... and I ask them can they fix it for me. By the way I am from Canada and when they see me hungers game begins. First they said it is bad bearing and I said ok, fix it please. Then they told me we have to open first to see the size of bearing maybe they have on stock maybe not. Again I said do it. In meantime nobody touching my truck. Two hours later guy his name is Mark telling me he find size of bearing on his computer but they don't have on stock, they need to order. I said ok, how longs is gonna take? Well we can get it by Monday morning and day when I was at the shop was Wednesday. What? Monday!!! Yes, sorry about that it is so hard to get parts right now. But we would recommend to replace differential and we can get rebuild one also on Monday. But I don't need differential I need new seal and maybe bearing. Yea but you know what when we open its could be something wrong it is better to order new differential. I was wondering how far they will go and ask what will be the price for differential? You are looking around $7000. No Sir , no thank You, please order bearing and that's it. Ok I would give you estimate soon as i get info. I said ok. I pull out my truck out of the shop because I already prepare myself to sit there until Monday and they said wait!!! You have to pay something I came back inside and $138 for diagnose and shop supply. So they tell me basically what I told them and they charging me for that. Anyway I paid my bill go outside and get bored in my truck so I decided to check some things by myself. I take it off oil check bolt from behind clean it. I take it off bolt for oil drain. Then I drain little bit of oil into the pan and put back already cleaned bolt which was on the top for oil level check to stop oil. I looked carefully into the pan no any metal pieces only metal dusty little bit on that bolt because it's magnetic bolt. Now I figurate I don't have problem with differential at all, so I took of bolt on the top of differential using for Air bread and thrue that holl I ad engine oil up to maximum. In meantime around four hours after our last conversation Mark coming back to me and saying this. I found the bearing and I can order for you but it will be here on Monday. I was pretending I am still interested and I said ok how much that gonna cost me ? He said $3000 but I would recommend you to order differential. Who knows what if is not only bearing problem then you gonna stuck more days. I told him you know what let me talk with my dispatch and I will let you know. In my company I am everything, driver, dispatch, so actually I was telling him I have to speak with my self 😀😀😀. Soon as he turn around I was ready to leave this shity place. Basically I spent all day with them for nothing when they was trying to convince me to replace differential instead of seal. So I run away to Memphis TN, finish my delivery and get loaded again going back to Canada. I only stop every 5-6 hours and add little bit of engine oil (1 gallon ) and keep going. Then I remembered Gordon have always great videos maybe I can see how he do and I found it. Thank You Gordon, you are the best. And guys please DON'T GO NEVER EVER to that shop what I wrote above, NEVER!!!
It's sad there so many dishonest shops out there. Thanks for watching.
Well done video thanks
Thanks Pedro
Good video thank you
Thanks for watching.
Gordon,
May I respectfully ask how old you are? The reason I ask is because I am 60 years old and I like doing my own work on my truck and hope I can do it for years to come. I enjoy your videos very much. Thanks!
I'll be 62 later this summer. I see no reason why you can't do your own repairs as long as you want to. I have a neighbor friend who is a retired driver and cuts grass for about 25 people and does almost all of his own maintenance and repairs on his equipment and is in his mid 70's.
Thanks Gordon! That's inspirational! I appreciate it immensely!
What the name of the part that sits below the yolk I have a leak coming from there
If it’s the same diff that’s your pinion cover. It just uses silicone. No gasket
You don't have any vibration issues? Maybe that's why the seal popped. It looks like none of your yokes are timed exactly with each other on either of the longer shafts.
That bearing cap fell off just to spite you :)
At least it didn't lose any needles. I started to change another u joint that didn't have clamps like this one but after about 5 minutes of beating it with a hammer and looking at the awkward position I was in, I decided to put the cap screws back in and go inside and go to Amazon and order a press for $250. and try again later.
When the needles hit the ground the cuss words hit the air! A press is a very valuable tool imo :)
Sweet Jesus
Good job G what was the torque on the yoke? Thanks.
Whatever the 1\2 in. impact maxed out at. Thanks for watching.
You want to watch the video and fucking Advertisement pop up in the middle of the video. Annoying Hate fucking youtube.