10,000 Mile Review Part 1- MV Agusta Brutale 800RR SCS (Euro 5) Fresco Exhaust, CNC Racing, Evotech
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- čas přidán 25. 09. 2022
- In this video, I discuss my thoughts after 10,000 miles with my Brutale (15 months) and overall what I think. There are many other aspects that were not covered in this video, so feel free to leave a comment or suggestions for any other videos in the future.
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My Battery also just wasted, lasted only for 15 mos with at least a month of full charging. need for replacement. Nice review and really agrees!
Good review, I got the Dragster SCS last year n love it. The Battery issue is well known, the stock is crap but part of the issue is the bike has a gps modem that regularly connects, pulling the plug to the right of the starter SOV (behind small panel, bikes right side), if leaving the bike for a couple weeks sorts it. I also got the Fresco triple but in titanium blue n chopped off the small baffles, but I have not touched the servo, my dealer in Manila advised against it saying it will slightly reduces the low down throttle response and torque. Its not only for Euro 5 noise compliance and is supposed to regulate the header back pressure to tune the exhaust for optimum performance.... apparently. The replacement ECU which comes with the SC Projects slip on is because that exhaust removes the standard cat. The combo pushes the bike to 150bhp allegedly, i had one on order when I ordered the bike but due to global... ahem... chip shortages it never arrived. So at the first 1K service I went for the Fresco, no regrets, its gorgeous. I am about to get a new fancy seat cover from Luimoto Canada and with it a gold gel pad, this greatly enhances comfort (they say), I am 6 ft and 176 lbs n yes numb ass after around 100 klicks. Your comment on the front end could be stiffer was interesting.... After much setting experiments and riding, I found I had to reduce preload slightly, rear ended up back on the delivery setting. The dealer had asked me my body weight before I took delivery.
Enjoy that MV fella, its my first one n absolutely it is the best I have ridden.
Ride safe.
Thank you! I love the Dragsters so much; I want to get one as well. I will have to look into that gps thing more. I put the lithium battery in and it's an improvements but, it still drains. I had spoken with an MV tech who told me that the servo delete would not affect anything, I even mentioned if the back pressure or lack thereof would be a concern and he assured me it wouldn't be. I have to say if there is any loss of low end torque, which I wish it had more of, its made up by the deep rumble at idle lol!
@@mzgarage the Brutale 1000 rr has also the option for gps tracking. My dealer say to me that this gps tracking is optional and you can call mv agusta and they turn it off. Maybe you can try this
Dream big bike😍
Great review! I have the same 2022 model bike (just a different color and without the SCS) and, although I only have around 900 miles (1500km) on it, I pretty much agree with all the points you made. The torque is indeed a bit low, and the engine only really "explodes" on the higher revs, so it's not exactly a bike made for the city!
I also just installed the same Fresco exhaust (I live in Italy, so I don't really have your same issues with spare parts availability, and I received it after only 2 days!) and the sound is so much better now!
The only little gripe I have with the bike is that, when I start accelerating and slowly releasing the clutch, I can hear and feel a pretty annoying vibration (for the lack of a better word) coming from the left side. At first I thought it was the chain hitting on the cat, but I keep hearing the same noise even after installing the Fresco exhaust, which has a much smaller cat and so there's no way for the chain to actually hit it. Did you ever notice anything similar on your Brutale?
Thank you! Yea, parts/accessories are not as common in the US for these bikes. I will say I paid for DHL express shipping on the exhaust and received it in 4 days I believe.
I was out riding today and made it point to use the clutch out of first (I read your comment last night), which I don't do often with the SCS, but I did not notice anything like what you are describing. I will keep trying though and see if I notice anything. Was it more of something you heard or felt?
@@mzgarage First off, thank you very much for taking the time to respond and to actually do some tests on your own bike!
It's definitely something I hear (and also feel) whenever the bike is at very low speeds/rpms. Still don't know whether it's the engine or just simply the chain that's too loose or something. All I know is that it's been doing it since day 1. Anyway, I should probably just take it for a check-up or something!
No problem. Do you hear it in the least bit when it's just idling?
@@mzgarage No, it doesn't do it when the bike is idle. I only hear it just as the bike starts to move, that's why I thought it might be the chain. 🤷
That makes sense, like you said it does ride on that plastic guard. I would put it up on a stand that allows the rear tire to spin. If you start it in neutral the rear tire should spin slowly, and you may be able to see if you hear it then. It's tough to hear something like that with a helmet on and the louder exhaust. I don't think I have noticed it. Maybe I will ride around my driveway with no helmet to see if I can hear anything.
Are you in any of the Facebook groups? There are a few with thousands of members from around the world, that might be a good place to ask the question.
Awesome bike! I have a 2017 Kawasaki z650, it’s my first bike and I have had it for 2 years now. I feel like I’m ready for a new bike but I just can’t find anything that I’m really interested in. I enjoy the naked bikes and I don’t want a speed bike. This bike is realistically what I would want to get next, the only problem is the $$$. Either way, awesome video and very informative👍
Yea I definitely agree, naked bikes are awesome. The MV's just look so amazing and different, but yes very pricey. You can definitely get more bike for the money, but it just won't look as nice IMO. The new MTO9s perform well and cost just over half of this, but I am just not a fan of the look. I was going back and forth between this and that, but I am very happy with my choice. Glad you enjoyed the video, lots more to come.
Why don't you look at the Aprilia RS 660 or Tuono 660 if you need a naked ... the RS660 is arguably the best middleweight bike you can buy at a killer price point. It's got everything, Electronics/Premium parts etc. I was definitely looking at that before I choose my Brutale.
@@KhrisRidez Absolutely agree! But..... I don't think anyone buys an MV Agusta thinking it's the best bang for your buck. It's not for sure, but nothing compares to the look in my opinion. I was thinking about the RS660 for a period of time since it doesn't have the most aggressive riding position, but you can't beat a naked bike for everyday riding.
The sound is absolutely wicked on these bikes. I love my small block Chevy sound of my Moto Guzzi, but there’s no denying I love these Agusta exhaust music notes equally as much! I rode around for a while on an fz-07 with mods and that was wicked (full race headers and exhaust, new ecu and dyno tuned, etc) would easily lift in 3rd gear…I can’t even imagine this animal you’re on now with the Agusta. Nothing short of incredible! Does this bike tolerate taking it easy and gentle daily commuting type of riding, or does it require you constantly rip it and ride it hard?
Yes, the triples sound amazing! They are my favorite sound. These really need an aftermarket exhaust to open them up, the stock exhaust sounds terrible. I came from an MT-07 (stock as far as performance) and this is easier and more docile to ride, the power curve it very different and I have trouble getting the front wheel up (it's because I'm nervous, I looped my MT-07). I make a video talking about it as far as a commuter where I talk more about how they compare to each other.
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Great review! How is the heat distribution while sitting in traffic? Up high near your crotch or down low by your leg? I live in a place w a lot of traffic and this is a big concern.
Ive never noticed heat from the exhaust but I ride to get the best sound out of the exhaust. 2020 Dragster RC #025
What spot did you start this video at? Love the view. I live in Northern VA
This was in Akron, NY just outside of Bufalo. It's funny you say that. All of my friends and I complain about how boring the roads are around here. We have to ride like 70 miles to start getting to the fun roads. Over the summer I drove down to Myrtle Beach through PA, WV, VA and NC. It was beautiful. All I could think is I wish I was on my bike!
finally rode mine (exactly the same as yours minus accessories..) after a long winter - well it s still just 2 degrees :D agrh... amaziinng :D !!!
I went out for the first ride of the season yesterday, but I took my other bike. It felt great to get out!
The fz7 sold in large numbers so there is more aftermarket than a niche bike.The price of owning a unique bike.
Awesome review! I have a honda cb650r as my first bike almost 3yrs now. Looking into upgrading… if my wife allows it. Haha. How often is maintenance and how much would a regular maintenance cost? Would you say its reliable enough to use as a daily? Trying to get as many good points as i can get for “the discussion.” Appreciate it.
Thank you. As I mentioned in the video, I came from an MTO7 and it was a welcomed upgrade. Much more stable with more top end power, but I do miss the low end grunt. I would imagine the power curve would feel similar the CB650R, but just more of it. As far as maintenance, these Italian bikes are going to be more. The first real maintenance is not until I think 18k-20k miles I think, which is the valve clearance check. That will be pricey. Other than oil changes, cleaning the chain, there is really nothing else you have to do. Reliability has been good except for the battery issue, but if you ride everyday, you will not have to worry about it. The problem is only when you don't ride it for a while. The one issue I did have is the imu seems to become off by about 1.5 degrees so when I was riding straight down the road the angle meter said I was leaning to the right slightly. This didn't affect anything, but it annoyed by. The dealer was able to recalibrate it though.
So all in all you would say it’s a pretty reliable bike and cost of maintenance is low or would you say do it yourself is much easier and less money? Only issue is really the battery and of course you say the clutch is slipping but that’s all in due time. Any big service you have to do to this bike like a Ducati for example every 15k miles you have to do a desmo? If there is how much is it usually? Thinking about buying one soon
Yes, I have not had any major issues. I am at 16k now and the clutch is starting to slip. It is still completely rideable, but under full throttle the rpms will jump a little. I will have the valve service done this year. There is a local shop that will do it and I believe it's about $700, which is less that I was expecting.
Thank you for the review. Just wondering whether you have ever got any problems so far. I have heard many rumors that after 10000 miles, a lot of problems would come out, especially for MV agusta. Could you share any tips on how you do the maintenance? How often do you take your Brutale to the dealer shop for the maintenance? I have a 2021 Dragster 800 Rosso and a RR SCS. Both of them are low mileage: below 500 miles. Once again, I really appreciated this video.
No problem, glad you enjoyed it. Well.... I just hit 15,000 miles. I might have the record for the most miles on 2022 MV Agusta lol. I plan on doing a 15k update soon. In the past 1k miles I have started to notice the clutch slipping or at least what it seems to be. At high RPMs when I give it full throttle, the tach shoots up right away like 2k rpms (not every time), but the bike it is obviously not accelerating that fast. I am not sure if it has to do with the SCS. Other than that, the only issue is the battery drain issue. The lithium battery does help, but it still drains quickly without riding.
Ive seen brutale 800 with over 50000km(32000 miles) and no problems🤙🔥
15,000 miles on my 2015 Dragster RR and a Saddle-Sore 1000 certificate I am also on my 3rd starter sprag...
I hit 15k this summer, probably more miles than any other 2022 MV in the world lol. My clutch is slipping now :(
I haven't ridden it in 3 years I did most of those miles in 2016-2018 if I could carry enough stuff I would have used it for touring...@@mzgarage
Good review, I did about 100 miles on mine so far. (1st ride) took almost 4 months to finally get it. It's a blast, definitely different coming off a Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14R. Looking forward to more of the experience. 😉🤘🏾
I had to wait a month to get mine which was in May/June 2021 which was pretty suprising. It is a fun bike for sure. My friend (one of the guys in my videos on the Harley or Superduke 1290) has ridden many bikes and if I remember correctly, he said the ZX-14r was the craziest.
Did you get the SCS version?
@@mzgarage thats awesome... I wanted the Black and Grey carbon color SCS like yours, unfortunately there were none available in the states, so they put in a order a Standard 800rr to be built from the factory. Yes I love my 14r , It's very comfortable but a RIOT. Ridiculous power but you obviously have to negotiate when and how much to use.You can't just sling that thing into turns like that lol. Definitely wanted to get a bike that was more about having fun, being sound and forgiving at the sametime.I haven't been on a smaller bike in almost 10 years and have been exclusively on Supersport so I wanted a change, MV Agustas F4 Tamburini Edition is my favorite all time bike. So I always wanted a MV, I looked at the F3 first but then thought nooo, leave the Supersport alone lol and when I saw the brutale it was a wrap. I just thought it's still sport but a naked which I'm intrigued by and said that's it. I still want a Superduke 1290R but that falls back into that category of big power lol so I opted out this time. Lol
@@mzgarage Can you please list the sites you buy your parts from? Also, I was quoted $23,400 out the door at full throttle in houston texas. I know I know about them already but were did you buy your bike from and can you post the bill of sale with your info blacked out? I would like to see a brake down of the charges. I would like to call and talk to you before i buy but maybe that is asking a bit much.
I am working on putting all the links together in the description for all the accessories. I paid $20,000 out the door. Find me on Facebook _ Michael Zent
@@KhrisRidez I tried reaching out to you on face book on the message app and left a voice mail. Can you post the dealer you bought from? Mine is saying 23k OTD but you got it for 20K out the door.
Did you have any other bikes you were debating between prior to purchasing the MV Augusta?
I was going back and forth between the MTO9 and the Brutale. If they had the streetfighter v2 at the time, I probably would have went with that.
I was wavering between the dragster RR and the 22 Indian FTR Carbon. I went with the FTR. I found one for $16k low miles used. It’s awesome, sounds good, gorgeous, met many of the same checkboxes as the Dragster. The sway for me was Polaris/Indian dealer network, parts, product support, aftermarket support, and resale value if it didn’t work out for me. I’m 5-7 and it’s a little tall but the recently released comfort seat seems to help a lot.
I still pine for a dragster though, there’s a 2016 near me for $10k and a 2019 for $13k. Neither have the TFT but the color choices are much better in my opinion. I’m reading about pre 2018s with sprag clutch issues, oil leaks, ect, and waiting months for parts that aren’t improved and will fail again. However, I’m a three time Ural owner so I’m a glutton for this kind of punishment 😂
I know the feeling, I am about 5'7" as well and I wish every bike was an inch lower. Those FTRs are pretty cool, I have watched quite a few videos on them.
As far as the dealer, the place I bought mine has sold like 3 MV's in the last 3 years. I seem to know more about the bike than they do, and I knew this going into it, but I am dreading any serious problems in the future. I was happy to year that MV was teaming up with KTM for service, but it sounds like that fell though, unfortunately. The newer MVs seem to be more reliable from what I see in the groups, however they still seem to suck down batteries just sitting there. I installed a lithium battery and its better, but still drops over a few weeks to where it won't start, but that is better than one week.
What mirror block off plugs are you using?
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They are very soft so put some tape on the end of the flathead when installing them.
I really like those mirrors. What are they and where did you get them?
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In this video, I speak about the mirrors. I did have my friend machine down the adapter bar ends, so they were more flush. There are photos in the video. They just stick out a little more if you don't, but will work fine.
Scs i hate but love the Bike✊🔥🔥
Why do you hate the SCS?
@@mzgarage boring Scs , but YOU can Get it without too😁and cheaper😎✊🔥🔥
Can anyone tell me why MV didn't offer an SCS model for this year's (2024) lineup for the Brutale??
I have no idea, I noticed they did not have it on the 2023 model year either.
How is reliability? what all have you had to do in services?
So far, it has been pretty good. I have done 9,000 mile service which is basically a check over and nothing serious. The stock battery, as I mentioned, does not do well in this bike, but recently I have been having the same issues with the lithium battery I installed. I am going to do a follow up video to that soon. It seems this bike has a parasitic drain on batteries. The lithium handles it better, but over time it seems to be suffering from the same issue.
There have been a few times where the check engine light has come on when I go to start it and the voltage it low. The error goes away, but the light has to be cleared by the dealer which is annoying. There must be some glitch with low voltage and the IMU. So far, besides the battery issue, reliability has been good. If I was more consistent with using a tender for longer periods of not riding it would not be an issue either, it's just annoying.
Is it true that there is no gas gauge but only a fuel low sensor on the Brutale?
It's the sad truth, same with my Streetfighter v4
Thanks for confirming my friend!
what battery did you installed ?
Antigravity ATZ -10. I noticed a big difference at first, but after a few months, it seems like the bike still drains the battery significantly. The lithium seems to fair better than the SLA, but not perfect.
@@mzgarage okay thanks 👍🏽 my cousin think about to buy a 2018 brutale 800 rr and many owners write that they have the same battery problems as you. Thats a worst property….
What type of mirrors do you have on the bike?
The link should be in the description
Watch this video. It shows the mirror and what I had to do to install them. czcams.com/video/Wa7Ql0f0m2M/video.html
What is the red paint you used on nuts/bolts
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You mentioned your on the shorter side, I’m 5’7 is this bike something I could easily get on for my hight something that makes me nervous about getting a bigger bike is not being big enough to really control it. I’m on a 390 duke currently.
I am just under 5'7" and I feel comfortable with it. I can't flat foot it, but I can get both feet down enough to have control.
is it true that the SCS needs to be replaced every 8000miles?
I would say no, but mine started slipping st 14k. I am at 15k now. It's still rideable, but there is a noticeable slip at full throttle.
@@mzgarage ohh. Thank you! Glad to know that you still keep your MV for a long period of time.
Battery/Charging problem in an MV? That's a feature since the Brutale 910 series-Lol
That's what I've heard, it sucks!
SCS, are you sure?
Sure about what in regard to the SCS?
Street triple rs are more easy too drive✊🔥🔥but brutale are faster and more raw🔥and more fun✊🔥🔥🔥
What do you think makes it easier?
@@mzgarage softer suspension and softer motor on Street ( more refined)
Yeah, gotta keep it on the tender, bro.
Yea, I understand that but why don't most other bikes require that? It doesn't seem right that you can let it sit for week and not be able to start.
@@mzgarage Cause it's an MV, bro. The connector is right under the seat. It's not that bad.
I know about them makes it different?
@@mzgarage Yes, it makes it different.
Sorry, I meant to say "what about them (MV) make them different" as far and having a parasitic drain?