22 Caliber Airgun Slug SHOOTOUT! (JSB K-O slugs FIRST LOOK!)
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- Hi everybody! This video is a shootout between 4 different types of .22 caliber airgun slugs, INCLUDING the NEW JSB Knock-Out slugs! This is a first look at the new JSB product, and they did not disappoint. There is also a corresponding written report that goes along with this video. You can find it in the links below.
Link to written report:
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Link to FX Hybrid Slugs:
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Link to H&N Slug HP:
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Ok, I am THOROUGHLY impressed with your presentation. You are actually someone who really knows what they are talking about. I watched the entire video and listened to every word. Something todays viewer tend not to do (overall). You presented a lot of FACT and not FLUFF. I just kept saying, "WOW, this is a guy i can relate to". Great video and SUPERB info.
Thank you so much, man! I'm sincerely flattered. Indeed, I'm of the opinion that simply presenting the facts is the best thing for everybody. I meant every word I said. They are ALL fantastic products. Great channel, BTW. I'm a fan!
-Donnie
@@BakerAirguns awe man, thanks Donnie. I will definitely be tuned in to Baker Airguns channel. Keep doing what you do bro!
@@Tofazfou Right on! You too, man!
-Donnie
Tofazfou dude that’s exactly what I was thinking!! He needs to be teaching somewhere!!
@@rashidabdul-salaam9090 Thank you very much! I'm sincerely flattered by your praise.
-Donnie
What great little vid. Very informative. Great back drop. Loads of honesty and humility. Great stuff and the music too.
Thank you very much! Sorry I didn't see this until now.
-Donnie
Donny. This is the best and most `accurate` video in all specs I can think of ! Some off the other " big canals" need to use you as an example !!!Damn good what/how you do this !!!!! Thanks for sharing !
Right on, man! It's my pleasure to make vids like this. I just test and measure the qualities of the product and let it speak for itself. In this case, they were all quite impressive!
-Donnie
A beautifully balanced non-Fanboi review, great job!
Thanks, but I'm a total fanboi. It's just that I like everything that doesn't suck. LOLOL
-Donnie
Great video. I think you chouse the best way to do it because you let the people to decide witch slug to use.you showed on every each slug penetration and expanding and this is great.congratulations.👏👏👏
Thank you very much! I'm glad you liked my approach.
-Donnie
I love your scientific method of comparison , and presentation . You compared green apples to green apples as best as you could letting the evidence speak for itself and the user decide . Good job . Thank you . "Deeds not words "
Thank you very much! That was precisely the methodology I tried to employ. I'm glad it came across that way.
-Donnie
One of the best presentation I have ever seen. You should review more and more stuff (optics, ballistics, etc)
Thank you very much! I very much intend to do more reviews of lots of different products in the future. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
-Donnie
I agree!
8:25 Finally !a bit of heavy`r taste music to enjoy your all the great vid´s ! Even more relaxing !!! Thanks bro!
Right on man!
-Donnie
Which ever one you happen to have, is the best one. Great video.
I have the H&N .217" in 21gr. I can run an inch to inch-and-a half groups at 75 yards with my Hatsan Mod 125 Springer. 31 ft.lbs. muzzle energy. My 18.21 grain Baracuda pellets group about double that.
Right on
Good shit. I'm glad the airgun industry has started to think differently about projectiles. I can't even image where the sport will be in 10 years.
Right on! Same here man!
-Donnie
Thank you kindly!
Well done.
I like that you will not put one type over the other.
Make your own choice.
You're quite welcome! Thank you for watching!
-Donnie
I just received some samples of the Nielsen slugs and they all shoot amazingly accurate in my FX wildcat 22 caliber and they are normally at least half the price of the other slugs. I had my order in 4 days but I’m 30 miles from his garage. He and his family make the slugs in a small shop. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
This is a great video for people new to slugs, as I am. Please keep up the good work. Subscribed.
Thank you very much! I hope it's helpful to all.
-Donnie
Awesome sauce! I wanna see these in 25 cal, I always have to wait. But still, it's awesome to see a comparison. Great video! And I love the music, definitely my style, yeah baay baaaay!
Right on! Thanks! Yeah, I wanna see them in .25 as well. As soon as I can, I'll do a .25 cal slug shootout.
-Donnie
@@BakerAirguns Sounds great, I'm sure it will be the same, they're all good, just depends on the slug(s) your gun likes, and of course there's tuning that can come into play that changes everything, even just the hammer spring adjustment in small increments can make a big difference, you know that, I know that, but everyone doesn't, lol.
Love the video pal and the music is savage respect 👍💯👌🎶
That's what im talking my friend im digging that music 💀
Thanks man!
-Donnie
Very well done man. The best slugs presentation so far. A kind salute from Italy
Thank you very much! It's my pleasure!
-Donnie
Glad to see someone finally start pushing slugs to 1000fps. Too many people trying to shoot a slug at 800fps like a pellet. Not enough to achieve gyroscopic stability nor to open up properly.
I can't wait until we have boatails that are doing 1200fps+ at 100 yards.
Right on!
-Donnie
Thanks for the info.
You're quite welcome!
-Donnie
Well done. No bs, which i dont have time for even in these slower
pandemic days. Great intel and Awesome jams. Some people videos are simply hard
to watch and easy to click off of. You da man. Keep it up and thank you
from the Uwharrie Mtns. Now even more pumped to sling some lead as soon as
my compressor cools off a bit and completes the filling of the tank. We
be shooting tethered to the mighty Sumatra .25 cal w/ NSA slugs. They
are indeed very consistent, best yet from what i gotten my wallet on.
Thank you very much! There is certainly much more to come. A tethered Sumatra with NSA slugs sounds like a good time! Get some!
-Donnie
Wow, usually I watch these videos and get inspired to go shooting. Now I gotta go knock the dust off my guitar and amp. Thanks Donnie.
LOL Right on man!
-Donnie
Great Job on the video!
Amazing informative, interesting on these slugs!
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
I bought my first can of JSB slugs 2 weeks ago, but hey I'm located in Europe which might help for once. I tested so far only the HN .217 slugs in 25grs and the same weight JSB slugs in .216 - both group very tight from my regulated PR900. Test them in high wind conditions last weekend, the HN did slightly better with less wind drift in the group then the JSB. Also the HN did expended a bit more for me in my diy ballistic gelatin then in your clear gel. Was a bit surprised by that since HN lead is usually very hard versus JSB lead is super soft.
Yet that is the greatest news to me with these new slugs - they even function from a budget pcp platform as .22 PR900 with outstanding performance and I don't need to get new fancy rifle with special slug barrel. A can of 200 JSB is about 8.50€ and HN is 10.50€ - so both still very reasonable for the performance yet. Great soundtrack!
Right on! Thank you very much!
-Donnie
I like how the FX slug mushroomed. I don’t shoot slugs because of the safety factor where I live and will always use a Daisy Hollow Point 15.4. I seldom shoot past 50 yards on game. My SK-19 can be a hammer if I would turn it up for theses slugs and then my barrel wasn’t made for them. The FX/Rat Sniper slugs would then be the clear choice for that barrel. I worry greatly about where my shot goes if it leaves their body, hence why I will probably never use them for pest control. The Daisy will hit them and expand to almost .35 caliber and stay inside the animal. This was a very informative review and has given me more food for though with my demons and pest control/hunting ethics and safety. The rifle you used to do your testing is a bad mofo. Seriously hard hitting and very consistent. Great video, awesome music and excellent examples of where the industry is at in quality and performance. Thanks bud.
Thanks! The FX slugs had the most expansion, for sure. The SK19 would be a great platform to run them if you get the chance.
-Donnie
Well done for an important contribution to this new air rifles field. It is an intelligent and well presented assessment. You have answered all questions I had in a scientific manner. Thank you.
Thank you very much! I'm very glad you found it useful.
-Donnie
Them slugs increase my gun's energy substantially, going from 23 ft/lbs to 28 ft on my .22 Gauntlet. It is now a laser gun at 50 yards with HN .217 23gr HP slugs (0.6 inch 10-shot groups)
Right on! Glad to hear it.
-Donnie
It's always great to expand my knowledge of air rifles. Though I only own break barrels, info is always useful for my future projects. New sub 😎
Right on! Thanks!
-Donnie
Excellent , I like your setting for your video ! 👍👍
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
Excellent, objective and appropriately qualified testing! Well done!!
Thank you , Michael! I hope you find use for the data.
-Donnie
The nielson 23 grain 218! Are the shit! Better believe it! As long as your barrel is not dirty
Right on! They are great!
-Donnie
Damn bro! Next thing you gonna tell me you are a gourmet chef!! Musician, Astronomer & Air Gunner. Great vid & good info, even though my guns aren’t necessarily Sluggers.
LOL Thanks bro! To be honest, the JSB Knock-Out shot REALLY well for me out of a 30fpe Daystate Wolverine R. You might want to try them.
Baker Airguns thanks, will give them a go sometime in my Cricket & Veteran.
Be nice if someone did a review on slugs at velocities most people are capable of achieving. How many of us can shoot a 25 grain slug at over 1000fps?
I’m using the 22g hybrids in my FX Dreamline lite 500 mm pellet liner at 860fps and accuracy is spot on. Under one inch groups for 5 shots at 100 Metres in light winds.
Have to say excellent comparison and review honest and telling another side to each not just what you see 👍👍👍
Thanks man!
-Donnie
Well done.
Curious on the slug penetration. I "suspect" the further out one gets from the muzzle, one will get better penetration (to a point) simply due to lower speeds not opening the slug up. Penetration is obviously important, but could there be scenarios in which one may need to dial back the speed on hard headed game, like hogs, coyotes and Im sure others? Could there be cases in which the slug opens up to fast on a hard headed noggin and not get into the brain pen? I could especially see this in larger calibers .30, .35 in which the slug already has more surface area to try to plow through with a soft lead hollow point slug, I would think it will really open the slug up fast. Obviously, they are devastating on birds and large rodents. But on the very large "airgun game" when head shots are pretty much a must, wouldn't it be better maybe to have a solid slug, with some antinomony added, so there is some expansion, but limited? After all a .30 or .35cal hole in itself is a pretty large hole in the head.....Kinda a wordy question. Not even sure if it's a valid one.
If I were to shoot a "hard headed" animal like a coyote or hog...I would not use a hollow point of any kind. A solid pellet or slug would be a much better choice.
-Donnie
Outstanding video! Very informative and one of the best comparison videos I've seen. Great work
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
Awesome job, Neilsen, JSB, and H&N are 5.5 cent, 7 cents, & 8 cents respectively. The FX Hybrid are 2 to 3 times more at 15 cents each slug! That's too bad... I'm not seeing 3x's better ammo in the FX slug.
Thank you very much! That's an important analysis you've done. Definitely something to consider.
-Donnie
Well thought out , well presented , a wealth of information , thank you sir.
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
cool never hard of baker airgun being into air gunning and a 50 + men. saying that happy to see it's a good another place to look for airgun related items. so very happy to have found you guys and will be looking at your web site. so thank you.
Right on! Thanks, Kevin!
-Donnie
Really nice comparison review, man! I have to try out those new JSB KO slugs in my custom built 120J .25cal PCP rifle.. Hope they will be at least as accurate as JSB King Heavies, but wit considerably better BC.
Best airgun slugs video!
Thank you very much! Yeah, I'd totally try the KO slugs. They've got a lot going for them.
-Donnie
Hey buddy..
This is a very good slug SHOOTOUT ...
Many information, thanks for that !! ...
And the music is pretty cool ...
Thank you very much! It was a pleasure to make this. Thanks for checking it out!
-Donnie
Damn great presentation Sir!👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
Freaking excellent review my man
Thank you!
-Donnie
Fantastic video without beating around the bush! I loved the music also. You have a new subscriber.
I think I may test some slugs in my RTI Priest 2 this spring.
Right on! Thank you! I've heard good things about the Priest, but haven't had the chance to play with one yet.
-Donnie
Great job man.
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
Very interesting & nice video bro..... Thanks!
Right on! Thanks for watching!
-Donnie
Just found your channel and subscribed I love detail and statistics. Great presentation!!!
To gild the details
Could you add the terminal energy at various ranges
Using Sterloc Pro. Or Labradar
Again GREAT PRESENTATION
Thanks. TOM
Thank you Tom, and welcome! Unfortunately I have too many current projects to revisit this one, but as you suggested, the data I've provided and some ballistic calculator software could surely give you the info you're looking for.
-Donnie
And there was I thinking you would be a Chamber music kinda Guy.
all good info, though , thank you.
LOL There isn't much music I don't like. Thanks man!
-Donnie
Great video Donnie! When do the fx hybrids come out in .25?
Thanks man! I honestly do not know. Hopefully soon!
Just want to thank you for the fast shipping of my .30 polymags.
No problem!
-Donnie
Outstanding video. Well done!!! 👍
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
Like the music! Great information and very good info.
Right on! Thanks man!
-Donnie
Great Job !!!
Thanks man!
-Donnie
Hey Mr. Donnie , great video ! Lotsa great info here. I just subbed your channel and look forward to more of your videos.
Thank you very much! More on the way!
-Donnie
Freaking awesome man👏👏👏 thanks for all the info mate. Just a quick question. At what speeds did you run these slugs?
Thank you very much! The exact speeds are in the ballistics gel testing segment, but they were all around 1030-1050fps if my memory is correct.
-Donnie
Thanks man i have noticed that there weren't any massive changes in group sizes with speeds between 900 and 1055 fps
The JSB knockouts seem to be the most accurate if we discount the second shot as a flyer I think a 5 shot group for accuracy testing would have been more conclusive not sure why you chose a 3 shot group?
NSA seam to be the leader here !
One of the best reviews I have seen! You did a great job. I'd love to see a Red Wolf Safari review here.
Thank you very much! I 'll see what I can do.
-Donnie
@@BakerAirguns Looking forward..There is not much about this gun on the net especially when it comes to long range shooting in .22 cal
Hi there, a great video and thx for taking your time making it , I also have a sarfari in .22. Was that at medium power setting,thx
Thank you! Great guns! No, it was on High Power.
-Donnie
now with the javellin's
Have you tried the new JSB 22 CALIBER HADES PELLETS
Thank you, that was good. So far in the impact we’ve found the jsb slugs are good. Bit more tuning required as they’re at around 840 fps... what would be the best velocity to tune these slugs to?
Thank you very much! I'd just experiment with velocity until you find a good match between the gun and the slug. My best results were over 1000fps.
Really just depends on what your barrel and tuning like. I've had Nielsens that like 850 in one rifle and over 1000 in another.
I want you to keep in your low voice the whole time & read my kid & I the hobbit. Amazing voice.
I wish the companies would have sample packs i.e. 20 slugs that you could get instead of buying a whole package and finding they don't possibly work.
Nielson does 40 pack
@@boskoromanic7425 Thanks will check that out
Ok, so which one is the best? 😂.. kidding of course. I totally agree.. whatever Nick and fam are doing to get the size and weights identical is astonishing to me. A long time ago I started to use NSAs for all of my PCP tuning and testing purposes, to remove as much variability as possible.
LOL The lead one. :D
-Donnie
LOL
Great work, just subbed. You should have way more subs! Looking forward to testing them in my Lelya. 👍
Thank you very much! Feel free to share this if you like. That helps with subs.
-Donnie
Love the info great job on the slugs but man were can i get ur sound from loveing the jam keep the great work up and keep them tones comeing
Thanks man! I haven't made music for a while due to a, no BS...samurai sword injury. LOL You can check out some older stuff here... www.reverbnation.com/donniereed
-Donnie
@@BakerAirgunsare you for real man u sould get back into it
I see you makeing a killing off you sounds and you air riffle gig
Iv got a ? That you mit can help me with .im new to pcp world and im stuck on the next gun im getting iv got a gamo brake barrel and and im fixing to take the next step pcp i found a deal airgun Pro Shop bundle deal for a 25 Cal gauntlet air compressor 2 bottles into, tin of pellets. For 1200$ and some change and iv watch ever video on the gun and some one told me i was going to have to do alot of mods to it .that i would be better off going with a nova Liberty so now im stuck lol
@@Michael-cb3dz what did you end up getting? I have a gauntlet and love it but it gets put on the back burner to most of my other guns because it is just so big heavy and awkward. Check out the classifieds on airgun nation. You can find an fx for under a grand half the time.
I have the Crossman Quest Nite Ops Air Rifle 1100 FTPS Air Rifle will these slugs work in my Rifle
brilliant and good to watch info,, just subscribed
Right on! Thank you! More to come soon.
-Donnie
I realize this is a older video but I just wanted to know if slugs can wreck a decent shooting pellet barrel.ie wreck the choke and or crown of my barrels
I don;t see whyit would, if the diameter of the slug was one that fit your gun.
Where is that beautiful cabin in the background?
exelent information!! amigo keep those videos coming muchacho👍👍👍
Thank you! I certainly will!
-Donnie
Love the video!!! great info!!!
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
Facts, facts no bull, this I can relate to. An avid subscriber to Donnie as of now. Waiting for my on order H&N slugs to arrive, the FX Wildcat mk2 is rearing to try them.
Thanks man! Let me know how they shoot for you.
-Donnie
Great video! awesome song!!
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
Great video... liked and subbed!
Thank you very much! It was a fun vid to make.
-Donnie
Could you tell me what velocity you were shooting the Neilson slugs at?
Only if I said it in the video. This was a long time ago.
-Donnie
Great video Donnie.
Thank you, my friend! I'll let you know about the Baker Airguns T-Shirts in just a little bit here. Just got to work. A little late. LOL
-Donnie
fx dreamline is a lot more accurate at 100yrds with these slugs. there's a video on youtube.but its a .25cal. i wonder if .22 cal air rifle is worth it for slugs and hunting 100yrds
Where can I buy the CD of your music? Nice video .
Thanks Dan! I don't sell any music anymore, but you can download it for free at www.reverbnation.com/donniereed
Fine Job Sir! First AG tester that actually knew the threshold of the beginning of Hydro-static Shock! Finally some one who actually knew what the "L" they were talking about.
If you impressed Cedric, (Tof., your doing fine! ;
Killer Music as well! Well Done!!!
KnifeMaker/Mike
Thank you very much! Cedric is great! It's truly my pleasure to make these reviews. It's nice to meet you!
-Donnie
@@mikel9162 Right on, Mike! Thanks!
-Donnie
Cedric and I go back a lot of years now. He, RoachCreek, Doug Noble, and AJ Porter were kinda the first real AG slug shooters and testers. A lot leaned, good to see it paying off as it is becoming more and more mainstream
thanks for the review! Will help out even more. ;
I would prefer to see reviews using guns that are more general consumer biased. A $3k gun testing slugs does the least justice available when it comes to folks on a Marauder budget.
Like I said...you have to test them in your own gun. Slugs in general like going fast, so a Marauder might be a better pellet than slug gun. Still, you just have to try for yourself and see.
-Donnie
I disagree , if you use s@#t you get s@#t results . When you use one if the most reliable rifles out there you get reliable results , making the data more believable . So what your saying is if he did this with a slingshot you would believe the results more .? I wouldn't . "Deeds nit words"
Marauders aren't power houses and were meant to shoot pellets. Be thankful if one of them shoots well.
Brothers in arms did some low fps slug testing with a Hatsan Flashpup with pretty good results and even he admitted he thought it wouldn't do well because the lower power of the flashpup. I think it was out to 70 yards I can't remember
Well done, well said, with common sense
Thanks Ryan! Let me know if I can do anything with the new club endeavor. We'd be happy to help.
-Donnie
Baker Airguns I am reading the proposal right now, that Jeff Swartz has put together. We need to get some good pictures put together. Just be there like you are for the other clubs. Jeff and I spoke to the President of my club, and they are open to the idea. We will definitely keep everyone posted.
if your gun shoots all of them equally well then you buy the cheapest . if all are dead accurate in your rifle expansion dosent mean much when the slug is accurate enough to be placed on the dot all the time. so in a case where all of the slugs shoot the same from your gun just go for the cheapest and watch whats behind ur target
I was pleasantly surprised by the music 👍 reminds me of my youth lol
( kinda has a Metallica sound )
Right on man!
-Donnie
Congratulations, it's very interesting and informative video. I have a hatsan striker edge .22 and I want to try the jsb slugs.
We're can I order the Baker t-shirt?????? It's awesome
Thank you very much! You can order a t-shirt right now if you want. Here's a link... www.bakerairguns.com/product/baker-airguns-t-shirts/
-Donnie
In the website can't find the XXL option the largest size is XL 🥺
@@hermosilloloco Sorry about that! What color are you looking for? I can check for you. I know we have some XXL left. You can email me at donnie@bakerairguns.com as well if you want.
-Donnie
@@BakerAirguns I want in black or red if you're still have thanks and have a great day!!!!!!
@@hermosilloloco I just checked the listing. They're all available in XXL. Just use the drop down menus and pick what you want.
www.bakerairguns.com/product/baker-airguns-t-shirts/
Forgot to mention that was some bad ass jammin . Went well with the ballistic gel test .:)
Far out! I wish I had more instrumentals to use in videos. That way I won't get sued for copyright. LOL
-Donnie
hmmm JSB KO super sonic from FX Impact X MKII= profit?
Yeah, but that's Phase 3. What's Phase 2?
Music was on point🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
@@BakerAirguns video was great to 😎
@@crypto_creep8222 Right on!
-Donnie
Have you ever tried putting RTV Silicon Form-A-Gasket in the tips of any of these slugs yet my brother. I do it to Daisy Hollow Points and they expand on contact. They do not need flesh,bone, feathers, or hair to initiate the hydraulic expansion. Yes, this is not my idea to set the history right. This technology belongs to Hornady FTX flex tip technology bullets. I just applied it to pellets and now Orion the iguana Hunter is trying it with slugs. The results are instant expansion and total energy dump with a minuscule addition to the overall weight of the projectile. His channel shows this as does mine. This is used for pass through control and total energy dump. You do you but I invite you to try. I also have a video on my CZcams channel that show you how we do it. Heath Halfhill...that’s the channel. Rediciluase expansion and minimal passthroughs, and massive energy dumps. Hydraulic expansion based on the fact that you can’t compress a liquid. Cool music by the way. I have been playing for over 49 years and I dig your tunes brother. Y’all are jammin! BTW I prefer to use pellets in .22...Erlis prefers slugs and a .25. As I said brother...you do you. Watch our videos...Erlis does them better but from the looks of his slug tests...NSA slugs are where it’s at to add silicon to the hollow point. Daisy Hollow Points made in Spain not China.22 , 15.4 grain due to the deep “V” shape...their my pellet of choice H&N Hunters work also...DHPs are the best though all around! .22- .34 caliber shot into clay at 910 FPS. Check it out. Your too cool to be left out of this awesomeness.
Thanks man! And right on. I'll give it a try.
-Donnie
Do any of them require a special barrel, or do they work out of a standard pellet barrel?
They'll work out of either one, but you just have to test them and see if your particular barrel likes them or not.
-Donnie
@@BakerAirguns well said! Some guns like "some" pellets (slugs).
Are you going to do a review on the daystate Safari?
That is, in fact, in the works. Stay tuned!
-Donnie
Very nice.
Thank you very much!
-Donnie
How did they perform FPS/fpe wise?
Watch the video, lazy ass.
-Donnie
How about shooting some large chunks of meat. Pork butt roast for example. I'm going to try it.
I thought a guy in a leather mask with zippers named Machine, was going to come out and start stabbing the gel block. Jk, music was cool and slugs are awesome 👍
LOLOL Right on! That's in the next vid. ;)
-Donnie
I'm with the music too man...freaking sweet. Also I'd like to get a shirt or hat to help advertise for u guys down here in Florida. By the way I was born and raised in Cardington Ohio....moved to Marysville Ohio ....now in lovely/hot Florida.
Right on! Thanks man! You should stop at the store if you ever come back around.
-Donnie
Thanks for this very good video. PS : It's Nielsen, not Neilsen.
Thank you very much! Woops! I didn't realize about the spelling. My bad.
-Donnie
Just discovered your channel! Great video! Sub and like for sure!
Thank you very much! Glad you liked it!
-Donnie
Shame the jsb only come in .216 and .217