Henry Emily; The Lies of a Voice of Reason
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Is Henry Emily, in the games at least, a good man? Most would say yes, but, is that entirely true?
Turns out, due to a few strange narrative decisions, this seemingly honest man has a much darker side than FFPS wants you to believe. And this "voice of reason" isn't quite as reasonable as one would expect.
Why did this happen? What writing issues led to this phenomenom? Could it have been done better? Will Scott ever write a consistent character for goodness' sake?! I can't answer the last question, but I can try to answer the others. Enjoy.
Introduction: 00:00
What does he even do?: 1:42
The devil in the details; Henry's negligence: 4:00
Henry's projection; Michael's (POTENTIAL) tragedy: 7:00
Lefty: 9:00
Charlie's benevolence: 9:14
A needless captor: 10:12
Charlie's torture machine: 11:27
Henry isn't sorry: 13:12
The worst case scenario: 13:31
Not what was intended: 16:30
He really should have been good: 17:05
There were alternatives: 17:35
The dangers of carelessly tying new characters into the narrative: 17:49
The biggest issue with Henry's character: 18:15
Double standards; how FNAF deals with consequence: 19:10
The case of Michael; how consequences build FNAF's narrative: 20:50
How Henry fails at facing consequences: 21:40
Addressing the ambiguity; how to write a character like this: 23:04
The consequences of Henry's framing: 23:59
Why this is important: 24:56
But hey, that's just an opinion!: 25:12
Also, in case you can't tell based on the whole "Henry's plan failed", I recorded this pre-Mimic in TFTPP. It's not that important, so I hope you're able to ignore it if it turns out being dead wrong.
You were dead wrong.
@@redskull378 liarrr
@@incriveldinossauro5282 Have ever read the fnaf books?Cause If you did,then you would've known that he was dead wrong.
@@redskull378 Considering the books only got around to revealing that later and it came utterly out of left field, that's p uncharitable lol
@@dr.archaeopteryx5512 These books were made in the same time security breach was being made.They just released them later.
This is why I kinda like the theory that Henry was the one framed for the deaths of the kids (we know at least one suspect got arrested and charged for the MCI victims)
I like that theory as well…but it’s also possible the suspect being *convicted* is the retcon Scott mentioned years ago
FNAF was meant to be his last game
William Afton as we know him didn’t even exist yet - just a random nameless killer who, predictably, gets caught
@@darkhumour741 Yeah, but if Scott Cawthon adds stuff to the story, he usually tries to build on what's already set up. It's why I don't by we can just ignore FNAF 4's evidence as dream theory evidence. If the answer changed, Scott's going to try and recontextualize the evidence to a different answer, not throw away the previous set up.
One thing I see misunderstood is that arrested doesn't mean jail time. Its shown in the novels (I believe) that William was caught, and arrested, but they could"nt prove it, so the police let him go
That doesn’t really make sense since they had the footage of William in the spring lock suit just just couldn’t prove it was actually him. They were like 99% certain it was him but couldn’t prove it in court beyond reasonable doubt so no conviction.
@@darkhumour741I reckon the retcon was Fnaf 4. It was meant to be the end and sister location was meant to be its own thing then people didn’t like dream theory (a main theory of Fnaf 4) and suddenly sister location is a prequel and Fnaf 4 is confirmed to be at least partially real.
one of my favorite bits lately has been "What if Michael never stopped trying to help his father and in fnaf 6 he's just freaking out trapped in the pizzeria" and its actually vindicating to see the freaking out part acknowledged as a possibility by someone else.
I'm definitely glad to hear a more neutral position to henry's actions because pizzaria simulator points to him not being a good guy or reasonable. He does torture his daughter, drags who he assumed was a rando into his suicidal plan to burn it all down. Henry really just seems consumed by his grief and doesn't seem to have clarity and seems desperate for any way to make the pain stop.
FNAF really has a way of introducing characters who are potentially really interesting, but just arren't explored correctly, huh? Thanks for your comment, I like your interpretation of Henry!
In Henry’s defense, he does say “And to you, my brave volunteer, who found this job listing not intended for you, although there was a way out planned for you, I have a feeling that’s… not what you want.” Henry DID have an escape for whomever he intended þe job for.
My biggest question here is… if Michael Afton wasn’t expected, þen WHO ÞE HELL WAS ÞE JOB INTENDED FOɌ?‽!
Henry in both the games and Novels is someone that always seemed to be in another world. That is, he was always a very detached and absent-minded person, even before Charlotte was killed. That was one of the things that allowed William to do everything that he did. The books say that even after Charlie gone missing, Henry didn't suspect Afton, or he just didn't want to believe that his own friend would have done such a horrible thing.
@@robertwhitaker4871 I think he meant Lefty’e mechanism
@@juliabp6057 oh
I've always assumed the reason that Henry had years of an action is because he was the one who was originally accused of being the purple guy which would explain why William was still trusted by investors to make animatronics while Henry was basically silent for 30 years He was the one who was arrested according to the five nights at Freddy's one newspaper and released due to lack of evidence with that type of accusation would follow him around for the rest of his life which explains what he probably wasn't able to actually do anything because one little legal slip up or one little suspicious activity and people would just assume the worst. Which also leads into my second theory that the facial recognition from FNAF 2 was actually there to try and stop Henry from sabotaging William's restaurant
Really interesting interpretation! I didn’t really go into this possibility much, since it’s not very heavily implied, but I definitively think your narrative is pretty cool!
ORANGE GUY IS HENRY CONFIRMED?
Which it ironic, considering Afton would be the one thay tampered with their facial recognition software.
I love this theory, actually
I'd argue that Michel is the physical version of where Henry is mentally. A zombie that only has one purpose left in life. It shows in the sister location custom night cutscenes that no one wants to interact with Michel because he is a literal rotting corpse.
William be like: "Good lord, Henry, at least when I kill someone, I'm honest about my intentions."
Imagine if Henry actually becomes Glamrock Freddy.
That would bring irony because he wanted to end it, get away from Fazbear Entertainment and end everything, but not only does Fazbear Entertainment come back to life, but so does he, and he then faces a possession of an animatronic when he wanted to end "Charlie's suffering" by freeing her from the animatronic she latched onto, because he assumed her work was done, and now by being Glamrock Freddy, he's forced to do some hard work of his own.
Alt of another person who commented on this video, this video was actually what got me thinking of that! It started with the karmic justice of being trapped in a place you can't escape the past you neglected for the longest time, and then I just found some of Glamrock Freddy's out of character moments to be out of character for Michael too. Michael wouldn't tell Gregory to "stop Roxy" without being extremely careful to specify it being as nonviolent as possible: I'm pretty sure Sister Location alone showed him that the sentient animatronics deserve some respect due to their plan to get out of the torture bunker that ended up working (even if at his expense). Plus, if Michael really were in Glamrock Freddy, he'd probably start to try and get this issue with Fazbear Entertainment still being around done with as soon as he can. But Henry wouldn't. We've seen him neglect situations before, so it's not a far cry to watch him do it again with his soul inside an animatronic that already is its own person. He also probably wouldn't care about Roxy and the others getting hurt like Freddy (or, in this comparison, Michael) would: they're just robots after all. It's only when stuff really gets bad that he even starts to do something, even if it's just keeping a kid safe.
There's also Fazbear Entertainment's tendency to reuse animatronic parts, and Lefty is already a bear with a compartment in its stomach, so why not use part of that? Plus it would mean Charlie probably shoved him in there to atone since she can do that, and while I do think she loves her dad it's kind of just her acknowledging Henry created something that at most caused her a lot of pain, and at minimum was constantly putting her to sleep and waking her up at the same time (which would explain Lefty's aggression about as well as her constantly in pain).
Another thing is that considering that Henry was such good friends with William, I find it hard to believe that he didn’t notice William abusing his children. It’s likely that he knew but ignored it in favor of stating friends with William
Very solid video! It's refreshing to see the dissonance pointed out between how this character is framed and how he actually operates within the narrative. Personally I think this kind of dissonance is endemic of FNAF's writing as a whole - there are several other characters and events that, when held to the same line of scrutiny, seem to be presented as something they aren't quite. Like you said, Henry's speech is very moving when taken at face value, as a performance with all its music and window dressing it's very compelling, it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I feel like there's something to that about a lot of FNAF's writing. Thanks for posting this!
I’m glad you enjoyed it, and I totally agree with you! FNAF really doesn’t have a good track record with framing, and it’s always been a bit of a pet peeve of mine. Thanks for your comment!
The fact that Michael, the _only_ perfectly compelling character, who just so happens to be the protagonist, is thrown to the side for some random ass guy to show up is so infuriating.
Henry serves no purpose in the plot other than for Scott to give the theorists one last mystery to solve. Michael could’ve easily been the one to give the final speech, with all that beautiful music playing, which LITERALLY IS BUILT UPON REFERENCES TO PAST GAMES’ SOUNDTRACKS, and it would’ve been OBJECTIVELY BETTER than Henry showing up. Michael is the character we play as in every single game. He is the hero of the story. It’s all about him redeeming himself after the Bite of 83 and bringing peace to the spirits of the missing children.
So why, oh WHY, does Henry show up? Is it because he was a big character in the books? Because hey, Scott, HE WASN’T! His daughter was the big character, and you already gave her the big role of the Puppet in this game! All the primary characters of the story are here! Just say that Henry died after the MCI. Boom. Problem solved.
GOD, this makes me so unnecessarily angry. I personally hold the belief that Help Wanted’s whole “the games exist in universe” shtick is just a tongue-in-cheek way to explain away minor retcons. IF STEEL WOOL DOESN’T TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETCON HENRY OUT OF THE PLOT, I WILL BE MILDLY DISAPPOINTED.
This leads me to think the Sammy Emily was one of the 3 kids who left Charlie out to die in Willy A's hands.
Interesting headcanon, thanks for sharing!
@@Silent_N_Productions
Let's be real here.
Henry made some questionable decisions...
Depending on how honest Henry was about the building just using "sounds" of children to lure the monsters in, how sure are we that no one else could enter or visit Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place by accident? There had to have been health inspectors to allow the place to open. Lawyers that would file Liability Lawsuits and Bankruptcy notices that Mike deals with if he also doesn't care about safety concerns for possibly real or imaginary patrons as much as Henry does. Are we sure the doors couldn't allow someone just desperate for a bathroom to be in the building right around Paragraph 4 could be fulfilled and Henry decides "everyone's where they want to be"?
And what about the potential civilians in whatever areas that are between Pizza Sim Location and wherever Henry calls all of the monsters from? Potential victims that might have never been seen by these vengeful creatures, now in the worst possible situation at the worst time as they hitchhike to the last Freddy Fazbear's? Henry is able to build one Robot to specifically capture and retrieve The Puppet, but he can't make anything else to safely collect the other creatures- OR ESPECIALLY WILLIAM?
And let's not forget Lefty. A robot that electrocutes the soul of his daughter in a way that the previous game, Sister Location, proves to be a painful means of torture that Afton inflicts on Baby and the Funtimes. Micheal can then buy Lefty, for a measly 5 bucks, to then put on stage and dance for theoretical children who are unaware that they're being entertained by a dead kid trapped in a shell like William's other victims. What was stopping Mr. Emily from just designing Lefty to go into an isolated chamber nothing can escape and just leave The Puppet there until it was time to incinerate? Why give it the option to perform as it is being constantly shocked or involve his security guard owner to use such a dangerous animatronic to trigger lawsuits seemly Henry inflicts on him as a means of fiscal punishment?
Henry doesn't just cast aside any potential safety protocols or testing to limit the amount of damage he inflicts to anyone else. He recreates William's Own Crimes just to Burn everything to absolve himself of his decades of guilt. He becomes possibly worse than his own demon within a week, just to leave in terms he feels are acceptable, without ever exposing himself to the horror he is messing with. At best, game Henry is a Selfish Coward that wants others to fulfill his redemption for him and will destroy countless lives in the specific and needlessly complicated pursuit of this goal.
God, the more I think about Henry, the worse a person he seems.
It’s true, burning down a building can have some pretty major consequences on the people around, it’s really dangerous!
And then everything about Lefty is just bizarre. It’s already bad enough he’s a torture machine, and not even being used humanely. It just sucks all around.
Thanks for your comment! I enjoyed reading it!
@@Silent_N_Productions Thanks for the reply. And yes, the more we look at Henry, the more it feels like he and Afton are a match made in hell. And hopefully I put it to the right comment.
Something tells me he lied to Michael. I have a feeling Henry knows Michael's been the nightguard, and that's why he hires him. He knows it's a fake name every time. Hnery is still a voice of reason and a good guy, he's just chaotic good, he makes choices that make him look horrible, but it's all for the sake of everyone else. His own goals were a secondary thing, he wanted to stop Afton.
I'm not sure why he would lie to Michael like that, since he does reveal he knows who he is anyways.
That's definitively a great way to interpret his character! Ijust wanted this video to point out his character isn't as universally good as the games try to make him out to be
FNAF character aliments
Puppet/Charlotte/Charlie
Chaotic good
Cares for others above the rules
Cassidy/vengeful spirit
Chaotic neutral
Cares for themselves over the needs of others
Henry/cassette man
Neutral good
Cares for others but doesn't always act out for them
Michael(after BV death)
Chaotic good
Cares for others above the rules
William Afton
Neutral evil
Not an absolute ruler abiding by the rules like Emperor Belos from the owl house, but not a complete destroyer unlike the mimic in tales of the pizza plex
I'm pretty sure Henry intended the Pizza Sim job to be for William, whom he may not have known was dead, only missing. Nothing would lure William in like a new pizzeria and then he could make sure William never had the chance to kill again.
But I digress. I agree Henry is no angel.
Huh, interesting idea, I’ve never heard it before! It does sound possible. Thanks for sharing!
@@Silent_N_Productions No problem! It's an idea I came up with myself, so that's probably why you haven't heard of it lol
I tend to only use the games when making my timeline (it's labelled as an AU so I don't get heat about "wrong details" that are actually just unconfirmed), but there's exceptions. Characterization is one of those. And my view on Henry so far is that, even if The Silver Eyes trilogy is non-canon, he at least starts out neglectful and slowly learns that maybe he shouldn't step out of every bad situation. But even then he still screws up enough to the point where he probably made sure Charlie doesn't want to see him (Lefty's whole controlled shock thing), and since remnant definitely does not burn in fire Mike probably got out of there after wondering why the hell Henry thought burning everyone was a good idea when that was already proven to not work. If Henry is still around (could be a ghost, as unlike Michael there is no way he survived the fire he literally intended to die in), I hope he's at least learned his lesson one way or another.
EDIT: I just realized something. While the community-accepted idea is Mike possessing Glamrock Freddy, it would be actually pretty ironic if Henry ended up there instead. He can't run from Fazbear Entertainment this time, meaning that he's going to need to face it head-on. Even if it's mostly Freddy himself in control throughout most of Security Breach, it would fix the whole confusion the "I am not me" line causes because Freddy is realizing that there's someone else inside him. It would work really well!
Interesting interpretation! I would really love for Henry to have an actual character arc instead of whatever FFPS was for him, so him coming back as GlamFreddy would be pretty cool! Thanks for your comment!
@@Silent_N_Productions I only thought about that after seeing the video. As you said, every action has consequences in FNaF: even the morally good ones. Henry tried to solve the problem and failed, then you pair that with some of the ways he tried to fix that and we have the perfect setup for a return where we actually see the consequence. Plus if he is Glamrock Freddy, then he's at least somewhat taking an active part in protecting children from William, who he failed to kill.
Very insightful video! I've always thought Henry was the most interesting of the characters, and this is quite a refreshing take on his motivations and actions!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I've always assumed Henry made Lefty because he wasn't sure if Charlie had gone animalistic like the other spirits. "Are they still... aware? I hope not. It keeps me awake at night." The thought of them still being fully aware of what's happened to then is enough to keep him awake at night. Plus, which how we've seen Charlie in the Silver Eye's trilogy, it might not be too far fetched that she knew what Henry was planning, and let Lefty take her there. Not only so that she can make sure that everyone can be put to rest and that Afton is finally gone for good, but also, in case the plan either failed, or as we see in the Fazbear Frights saga, doesn't go as intended.
Nice analysis! Like I mentioned in the video, yes, Henry likely made Lefty based on the Puppet attacking night guards in '87, and not knowing she had gone pacifist by 2023.
I guess I could see Charlie willingly allowing Lefty to capture her? I'd think it would make more sense for her to just... walk there. She can't really make sure the plan works if she's struggling against Lefty. Plus, I'm not entirely sure she'd be happy to attack Michael and even hurt patrons. Although there is another reason she might not want to escape, but that's for the Charlie analysis video.
I'm also hesitant to use Charlie from SE as reference for game Charlie. They're just way too different in too many ways to call their personalities 1:1.
Still, a cool interpretation! Thanks for sharing!
@@Silent_N_Productions I mean, if she knew that Lefty was meant to catch her, and if she went there by herself, unless Henry had a way of deactivating Lefty remotely, then it would probably keep looking for her, even after everything had been burnt, and she wouldn't know if Henry had enables it to take drastic measures to find her. I guess you could argue that Lefty would eventually run out of power, but even then, if it managed to accidentally get enough agony, then it'd have an unlimited power supply, and even if it didn't, who knows how long it's power supply would last.
@@Jedi-ge6lr Absolutely possible, but you have to keep in mind that 1: There’s no guarantee Charlie knew what Lefty was when she saw it, and 2: The L in Lefty is for “Lure”. It emits a bracelet code frequency, likely the one from Charlie’s green bracelet, which would likely attract the Puppet because of its programming. And we know animatronic behavior is heavily influenced by programming.
As for power supply, yeah, who knows how the hell these things run for years. We’re not even sure on what exactly would happen if the supply runs out.
I still find the possibility interesting and plenty plausible, so thanks for bringing it up!
He honestly could have just burned Lefty once he got a hold of the puppet but chose for some reason to keep it around, torturing it so he can get them all at once. He didn’t need Lefty to be there with the others.
I think I can make a fan fiction about Henry and Charlotte or Michael being angry at him or something
That would honestly be pretty nice. There isn't enough Puppet-centric fanfic out there :v
The way you narrated Henry's detoriating payche was just...too good. I really like when people subvert expectations.
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@@Silent_N_Productions hey...still want that sh!tty fanfic about Charlie and Mike giving Henry a piece of their minds (metaphorically)? Yeah? Me too. Guess what? You just inspired me big time. It's not easy to inspire me. Expected a fanfic in about a month. I need to build up the story.
@@sayansaha155 YES. I’ve always found it particularly hard to write for FNAF, so I’d love to read it. Please send it to me if you do write it.
(Ah, my plan of inducing more people to write FNAF fanfic is coming along nicely, I see. Yes, yes… XD)
Henry directly copied the funtime freddy to make lefte and unleashed it on his own daughter, even worse since he knows about baby/Elisabeth he should have known damn well that the torture of the controlled shocks is what got the murderbots desperate to escape to begin with. Henry is unforgivable for that, and above all else he let his victim wander around as an unstable and violent around with her undead murderer promising her to burn in a fire stuck in a suit shocking her until the bitter end.
Connection terminated.
I'm sorry to interrupt you Elizabeth, if you still even remember that name. But I'm afraid you've been misinformed. You are not here to receive a gift, nor have you been called here by the individual you assume. Although you have indeed been called.
You have all been called here. Into a labyrinth of sounds and smells, misdirection and misfortune. A labyrinth with no exit, a maze with no prize. You don't even realize that you are trapped. Your lust for blood has driven you in endless circles, chasing the cries of children in some unseen chamber, always seeming so near, yet somehow out of reach.
But you will never find them, none of you will. This is where your story ends.
And to you, my brave volunteer, who somehow found this job listing not intended for you. Although there was a way out planned for you, I have a feeling that's not what you want. I have a feeling that you are right where you want to be. I am remaining as well, I am nearby.
This place will not be remembered, and the memory of everything that started this can finally begin to fade away. As the agony of every tragedy should. And to you monsters trapped in the corridors: Be still and give up your spirits, they don't belong to you.
For most of you, I believe there is peace and perhaps more waiting for you after the smoke clears. Although, for one of you, the darkest pit of Hell has opened to swallow you whole, so don't keep the devil waiting, old friend.
My daughter, if you can hear me, I knew you would return as well. It's in your nature to protect the innocent. I'm sorry that on that day, the day you were shut out and left to die, no one was there to lift you up into their arms the way you lifted others into yours. And then, what became of you.
I should have known you wouldn't be content to disappear, not my daughter. I couldn't save you then, so let me save you now.
It's time to rest. For you, and for those you have carried in your arms.
This ends for all of us.
End communication.
I think we can all agree that while yes, William is the main antagonist, Henry couldn't come close to him, but has some negative traits. You'd think he'd do a better job with handling some situations, especially when he should have properly taken care of Springtrap/William when he was spring locked. While he did state that he doesn't know how the souls possess the machines, you'd think he'd be smarter about his actions.
Even with Fnaf 6, you'd think that if he TRULY wanted everything to end, you'd think he wouldn't commit suicide, but rather, would make sure that EVERYTHING was destroyed.
He did account for the souls, but he didn't know about agony, which would explain The Blob.
Henry is almost like Venom from Marvel. He isn't pure evil, nor is he a good guy, he's neutral.
I really liked your analysis! Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, and I do agree with your comment regarding Henry assuming Michal "wanted to stick around". While yes, Mike was a rotting smelly corpse, but if you think about it, who would want to have a life like that?
13:52
How would he even test that?!?!
by murdering someone??
Fair. If he didn’t figure out how to make remnant with just emotions (see: StitchWraith epilogues), he would probably have to seek out other objects imbued by remnant, like the doctor who created the StitchWraith, and that could be pretty time-consuming. Remnant *is* pretty hard to find
About the puppet being docile and the shocks being unnecessary...
Why does she attack you?
If she is docile, and the shocks are just torturing her when there is actually no need, then why does 'Lefte' try to kill you, the same as Scraptrap, Scrap Baby, and Molten Freddy?
Actually, why does Lefte attack you at all? It is made by Henry to capture the puppet, so is Lefte just... programmed to kill security guards? Why would Henry program Lefte to kill people? Or if the killing is the puppet taking over- then what is going on with that? If the electricity is completely shutting down the puppet, how is she able to take action in the first place? You said yourself that the puppet can not control Lefte (11:58)
Yeah, this has always been a bit of an issue. There’s no reason the Puppet should attack you based on FNAF 3, and there’s no reason Lefty would attack you himself.
The best explanation I can give is that Charlie struggling to get out causes malfunctions somehow, and/or Charlie’s agony is somehow mixing with Lefty’s programming in a way which makes him want to trap everything it sees, instead of just the Puppet.
Although, now I’m thinking about it, Lefty doesn’t have any way of recognizing the Puppet, right? He just has ‘Navigational Sensors’ according to the blueprints. Maybe his programming is just to capture anything it sees alone, ala Funtime behavior. If that’s the case, Lefty’s behavior can also be attributed to Henry being an idiot :p
8:45 if he didntknow how to exit, he couldn't know how to enter either
8:33 so do you assume he's been in this basement for the whole 6 days without going home?
13:23 lol, alive
Great video. I love Charlie/the puppet as well as Henry a lot and this gave me a lot of insight about their characters. I wish they would have acknowledged Henry's wrongdoings more and explored his character because the lefty stuff was really disturbing.
Emily is clearly meant to be the opposite of Afton. But he truly has similar issues (except being a psychopath) to Afton if it took him this long to PHYSICALLY ACT.
Wow, this was a pretty good video! Was a little hard what you were saying since the mic sounds a little muffled. But all in all, I liked it a lot and completely see your position on how Henry is written in FNAF 6.
I never really understand what people's problem with Henry's writing is.. but you made me understand that WAY better. When you think about it, Henry doesn't really address some things. You can tell he regrets things but.. more is to be desired here tbh. Like he's pretty ambiguous morally but, he's treated more like a hero in a way ( like you said). Rather than a man who's done things in the past and present that are questionable. Like the whole thing with the lobotomy..like sir that is so questionable LMAO. 😭
I truly feel like if Henry was planned in the beginning, he wouldn't feel so rushed and the character would've developed more nicely. Cause conceptually, he's honestly a great character! Your business partner killed your daughter, you feel totally destroyed, and your actions are very questionable. Like that's so interesting! But he's introduced in a game that was supposed to be the end. So it doesn't do him any favors sadly.
One thing I will disagree with the stuff about lefty. I think it is a little questionable what lefty does. But I think he did it for the best of Charlie. Since from lines in I think the insanity ending.. he doesn't know that the kids are aware? Or at least her? Though im a little mixed on it still. But besides that, a genuinely nice video! Made me think more about how Henry was written. Even though I really love pizza sim and its ending.
This is a really good video! I had a lot of fun watching!
I'm happy to hear that!
Great video! I enjoy characters with depth, and in a way it was a disservice to Henry's character to try to gloss over all of his flaws and misguidance. The moral ambiguity of the man is there, but it is not addressed and that's a shame. It's definitely a shame how it also impacts the more developed characters of Michael and Charlotte. Honestly, I'd love to read that fanfic too, maybe I'll write it if I ever get time.
I’m glad you enjoyed! Yeah, these characters deserved better writing. I’d love to read that fic if you do end up writing it!
- The idea that the Michael wouldn't know where the exit is because we don't see it in the game is baffling. Apply that logic to all the other games, all of the guards don't know where the exit is. You could reach and say the sister location elevator is the only time.
- Why would henry say "You are right where you want to be" if the guy who got this job was random. Unless it wasn't. I am fairly sure Henry knew that it was Michael.
-I mean, yeah, it's only a possibility, since the obvious exit which is likely just behind Michael would possibly be sealed to prevent the aimatronics escaping. I just pointed it out to fully cover everything Henry *MIGHT* have done wrong, even if it's very possible Michael would figure it out on his own.
-Yes, Henry knew Michael was there, but only *after* he got the job. The position was very much meant for a random person, remember the "...who somehow found this job listing, not intended for you..." line.
But when Henry found out Michael got the job is irrelevant to this discussion, that's missing the point. The problem here is that Henry projects suicidal ideations onto Michael, which is extremely not okay, especially when he fails to facilitate Michael's escape because he is SO set in his projection. Whether or not that actually stopped Michael escaping doesn't matter, because it very much could have.
@@Silent_N_Productions I found a good response somewhere about the suicide projection better then I could ever say
"I have a feeling Henry and Michael had an unspoken mutual agreement on it being Michael's time to die.
Michael is a freak, he shouldn't be alive, he says it himself "I should be dead, but I am not.". His road ended ages ago, he's offroad heading directly towards a sheer dropoff, he doesn't know when or where, but he knows it's coming.
I feel like Henry is just trying to end off all the tragedy. He's putting an end to all the unnatural shit he caused, or so he feels he caused. It's a final good deed to the world, Henry killed his daughter, his business partner, and his franchise, but if he were to leave Michael alive, he'd be leaving a loose end. It's not a good guy move, but it's the right move. The right choice isn't always the good choice."
@@monecue9891 That is a very good analysis. I feel like our views are similar, we're just approaching it from different angles.
Yes, it's implied Michael wanted to die just as much as Henry, and Henry's assessment is correct. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear enough in the video. It still isn't the 'good guy move', but it is correct, as the response stated.
The same could be said about creating an unsafe pizzeria and being willing to hire anyone for the job (again, "not intended for [Michael]"), knowing the risks and even being willing to throw them in a psych ward if they learn too much. It's still probably a better plan than Henry going there himself, but it's not the "good guy move". Especially with Lefty, Henry made the correct decision with the information he had, just not the morally perfect decision.
The thesis of the video is that while Henry did the correct things, he was by no means a saint. And that by itself wouldn't be a problem; the problem is the game doesn't address the ambiguity, and that creates dissonance between the messaging the story wants to give and the actual events being portrayed.
Great analysis!
07:52 Henry really went with the LowTierGod approach on Michael 💀
Michael a opp that's crazyyyyy 😭
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Henry never been a good father. Both William and Henry was just 2 sinister. William was just the sadist one with narcissistic personality disorder.
I respect your opinion but I think he was a decent parent not a good one but certainly not a bad one ether
I love how so much of the fandom is like "William just snapped when Crying Child died!", meanwhile they take the books as canon and William bitch-slaps Elizabeth in The Fourth Closet at some point.
Henry is still the better dad though, even if it's just because he doesn't physically abuse his kids.
@@ZirconiaGacha You are goddamn right! It is headcanon to say that William was a nice father, and a justification for William's evil deeds is not necessary. We are discussing a man who executed a cruel plan to murder five children. He laughed at the police because he was confident he wouldn't be caught. In addition, William is an attention addict in the books; MatPat claims him to be jealous, which suggests that William is likely a narcissist. Furthermore, when you step back and consider William's behavior toward his wife, kids, and others, as well as his manipulative behavior toward Henry, (Considering that Glitch Trap is a replication of Afton, I believe William never started a Fred Bear's location. In order to fulfill an old ambition, I believe he just tricked Henry, who was employed at Chica's Party World, into making two springlock suits. Investments were not a problem for him since he was a successful businessman.) William may have been fooling his wife till she opened her eyes and ended their relationship since narcissists can make themselves look correct in any argument in relationships. Following that, I believe William killed his wife in an explosion of rage over being turned down. So, Henry was a man who had no idea what it meant to be a good person, and William was never a good person.
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@@ZirconiaGacha I also think William's jealousy of Henry was the driving force behind the rebuilding of his family, and the murder of Charlie.
Great video, love your explanation videos (also your accent is very cool)
I'm glad you enjoyed, and thanks for the compliment!
Henry's role should of been given to Ms Afton and I will die on that hill
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Later media try to also gaslight us into thinking that the puppet is right side up inside of Lefty. But from the scene where we can see the puppet inside of Lefty in the back alleyway her leg stripes are the only thing that can be in the arms meaning that she's upside.
Didn't think this was a big point but I just thought it was a cool fun fact
The only fnaf games that want to end the series i think is 3 or 4
Well, you can probably add FNAF World there, as well as FNAF 1 since it wasn't originally planned to have a sequel, being Scott's final attempt at game-making and all. But FFPS was also meant to tie up all loose ends, so that's another point where the main story was meant to end at least, with UCN serving as a sort of epilogue. Thanks for all your comments!
FNAF 6 was the perfect ending, in my opinion. Especially because of its emotional part.
Mike during insanity ending: This is fine.
Imo when killer robots are at play I think any and every action is justified
Hah I love that notrealnamenotatall also called out the same thing, I completely agree that Henry isn't exactly dad you would dream of, also I believe that the mimic story is about Edward and david paralleling Henry and Charlie
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honestly, It's hard for me not to feel like Charlie deserves it.
She's killed way too many people.
Honestly Everyone in that building including henry deserved there fate.
Damn, that’s pretty brutal, considering the last time Charlie was actively trying to kill anyone was in ‘87, when she was, what, 7 years old? Going by the 1980 birth date from the Silver Eyes trilogy. Judging her exclusively on things she did when she was a child feels a bit odd, but it’s your opinion, so it’s perfectly fine!
Honestly, you could argue something similar for Michael, because if being pretty as a teenager means they deserve death, the world would have like 90% less inhabitants; and the MCI kids, who also couldn’t have been too old the last time they killed a night guard. Anything post-Funtime Freddy could be associated with the animatronic’s dangerous programming, so I’m not sure how to feel about it, and the same goes for Elizabeth in Baby.
The morality of these characters is pretty complicated, huh? Of course your opinion is still valid, thanks for sharing!
@@Silent_N_Productions i mean sure if this was somthing like lighting a bag of dog poop on a neighbors lawn, or breaking a window thats normal.
But murder??? You can't just oh they're just kids about it, especially since they never suffered any consequences for it.
Just an interesting thought, who was the job actually intended for? 'Not intended for you' sounds like he already had an idea of who was going to work there.
I will say that regarding Michael, I don’t think he wanted to leave. If we assume that we are in Michael’s perspective the whole time… well, Michael doesn’t exactly move now does he? In general, Michael is constantly throwing himself into situations that can get him killed. Unless you believe that surviving Sister Location has given Michael a false sense of invincibility, Michael willingly stays in at least two locations with deadly animatronics and is apparently tampering with them. I don’t think Michael wanted to leave that fire. He seems to believe as much as Henry does that it would kill Scraptrap.
~which is why it annoys me so much that the fire didn’t work because narratively speaking it really should’ve~
I don’t think Henry himself has any delusions of being a good person. He just wants to put this all to rest quite literally.
9:18 FnaF 2: You sure about that?
I always thought that Henry was supposed to be an unreliable narrator and I think that might have been what Scott was going for with all of the different horrible things that he does so but, I can definitely see where you think that isn't what Scott was going for but we can only assume what Scott was really going for here.
Also the character encyclopedia just gets a stupid amount of FNAF lore wrong soooooooo
I really like this interpretation of Henry
Mostly because this make PizzaSim ending from this sweet release and a final conclusion for a ge series to a depressing, upsetting and unfulfilling realisation that nothing worked as intended and ge just induced more suffering on the people he so desperately tried to save
You know, good intentions pave the road to Hell...
I really lile that picture of the games' story much more than a sudden "Henry saved everything, yay!", gives you more room for thought
Hey did you check Fuhnaff's theory about how michael might have been an antagonist until after fnaf sl (supposing that it happens after fnaf 1) or 3, and Henry was in the other games trying to help instead of Michael?
Yep, I watched it, and with all due respect, I don't agree with it at all. There are just too many assumptions and stretches that are necessary to even start to believe it, a boatload of logical issues (why does William attack Michael in FFPS? Why does Henry sound sympathetic towards Michael in his speech? Why does anything happen?), not to mention how much it derails the narrative into something much worse (goodbye redemption arc, I guess).
It was a good video, but a really difficult theory to believe.
Frankly I think Michael could have been a puppet of William until sister location, and that could have happened after fnaf 1. Michael wouldn't have needed imo to be liable or aware of the events that happened to an irredeemable point, and it gives a clear meaning to some elements and clues such as the Japanese videos from ucn or the Afton family poster from ffps
@@gabi10cg Oh, yeah! Michael definitively follows William's instructions at *some* point, since he goes to Rental on his behalf ("I put her back together, just like you asked me to"), I just don't agree with the main point of the theory since it makes everything way too confusing.
@@Silent_N_Productions I don't know if the entire theory he proposed was completely true, but I think it is a real possibility that in fnaf 1 and 2 Michael is still working for William, whether he is more or less aware of the implications. And giving a bit more significance to Henry, even if just a small bit, during the early games, would as said give more meaning to the Freddy/foxy anime
@@gabi10cg We know so little about what Michael's motives for being in FNAF 1 and 2 are that yeah, him following William's orders there sorta makes sense. The only grievance I have with that is that William himself also goes to both those locations at some point (previous night guard in FNAF 2, Follow Me for the '93s location), that it'd feel weird for him to also send Michael there. Because I can't get myself to believe that the FNAF 2 nights happen at any time other than '87, it's just too convoluted and has near insignificant evidence.
But like you said, those Freddy and Foxy cutscenes do feel a bit weird under other theories, and I really appreciate that this theory tries to give them an explanation. I might go back and analyze them again with a fresher mind, might make a short about it if I come up with something.
Thanks for the comment!
Why isn't Henry the security guard? He could just disguise the FNAF as a self owned business. Why even involve someone else that he is just going to paint as crazy and just send to an asylum for the rest of their lives?
He mentioned that a bit here 23:22
In regards to the electric shocks, the voltage line might just refer to keeping the soother powered up at all times sith a steady current and voltage
I suppose, but the voltage is provided "throughout", which doesn't quite make sense if it's just meant to be for the soother. Not to mention the controlled shocks are the only good explanation for why Charlie sounds Like That in UCN's Lefty.
@@Silent_N_ProductionsIf that was the case I think that note would be in a separate section, an hypothetical D, and not with the soother. Also, throughout not only means "in every part" but it also means "all the time"
@@gabi10cg I suppose that's possible, but why would Henry specifically call out the power source for the music box and nothing else? He doesn't mention how the other parts of the animatronic are powered, so it seems unlikely he'd specify it for the "Dream Wand". And again, Charlie's voice inside Lefty from UCN implies she's in pain, which would only be caused by the potential electric shocks.
@@Silent_N_Productions if he already has the soothener/dream wand to calm puppet, and knowing the soothener worked in fnaf 2, why would he need to put another system to control her, one that it so obviously going to be torturous and painful for Charlie? The voice of Charlie sounding like it sounds could be explained by the fact that 1. Now she isn't only trapped in 1 animatronic, but in 2, which would be quite nasty, and I don't think would be that comfortable either; but also, she is fighting against the dream wand's effect constantly, so it's normal she sounds so exhausted and tired.
@@gabi10cg I mean, I've always seen it as an extra precaution, something safer than just relying on old tricks from '87. Although that's definitively a plausible explanation for her voice!
All in all, you've convinced me that this is a real possibility! I guess it comes down more to what you want to believe, since there's really not much to speculate on. I still prefer to think in the electric shocks possibilty, since it feels like it would explain her aggressive behavior more than just a soothing song would, but there's nothing good enough to dismiss the possibility that the voltage is just meant to power the soother instead of *being* the soother!
I believe Henry was the one who made the spring lock suits, not William.
No henry is a compelling character because his redemption arch is not technicaly one. Let me explain: in most stories no matter the trauma that they suffered characters become completely positive characters in their archs like all pf that trauma didnt have an effect. This isnt realistic no one in real life would have the strenght of being a completely good person whit all of that suffering. Because of all the trauma henry as suffered theres no realistic way in wich he would become a completly good hero. Instead it would be realistic for him to have his main goal being his own personal justice. Hear me out he still does care about giving peace to all of the souls and fixing his mistakes, But his many goal his reuniting whit his daugther no matter the cost. Summary: henry is a good person and he always was. he committed the mistake of not letting his life get ruined by grief and he developed trauma and stress to a point of no return. He did have good intentions, but they were mostly fueled by his need of personal justice and only in part the justice of the other victims. He does achieve his goal in not the best ways, surely not evil but not good too, this is because he is too dead inside to really care too much about the collateral damage. A broken man that Doesnt try his best because he is too broken. Its relatable
Yep! Like I said in the video, I'm not arguing Henry is evil, he obviously has good intentions and does good deeds. The fact that he goes about it in a morally ambiguos way is potentially really interesting and could make for a very compelling character, one which explores grief and desperation in a very interesting way!
The problem isn't that the ambiguity exists, the problem is the games don't acknowledge it. There is not a single time where Henry's actions are questioned in any way, so his framing comes off as disingenous. And that takes away from his character, because then the ambiguity can't be addresssed and explored with the depth it merited. Instead, Henry is oversimplified as just a "Voice of Reason" that would never do any wrong, which takes away from his potentially interesting character, and hurts the characterization of others around him.
TL;DR: Henry being morally ambiguous is conceptually awesome, but it wasn't executed properly because the games are obssessed with making him out to be an unequivocally good man.
i like this take on henry,as FNaF is a series where there's almost no Purely Good characters. the main characters are likely Morally gray at best.
With Michael and the Puppet being perfect examples of this. Both of them has done good things or were good people at one point but
Michael has killed his younger brother(even by accident) and was a bully for most of his childhood.and while its hard to determine WHERE exactly sister location is. depending on where its at,Michael did nothing to stop William from murdering kids.(tbf he was a kid most likely,but still)
and Charlie killed a lot of night guards for revenge, and pulled up a lot of souls who could've moved on to the after life and kept them inside the animatronics Because she thought she knew better and condemned them to a life of suffering.
It would make perfect sense to me if henry was also morally gray to some extent
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Henry is culpable in a lot of this and I can see why nobody would want to forgive him, especially the dead kids and Charly. Why did he wait so long to avenge them and why did he involve innocent customers and employees?
In Pizzeria simulator you play as Michael Afton
Thank you Captain obvious 👏
3:32 if the mimic theory its true he didnt fail
Yep. I made this video before I knew of the Mimic, so that part in particular is obsolete now XD
I mean, notarealnamenotatall made basically the same video a while ago...
i just don't see henry as a 100% good guy. i feel like there's almost no character in the franchise that's supposed to be a 100% good angel, everyone has dickish tendencies. i feel like henry is like, somewhat of a good guy, but the fact that he is directly responsible for setting up what we have to go through for 6 days in FFPS is pretty questionable at the least. almost similar to movie william owning the pizzeria and hiring night guards knowingly to get killed by the animatronics, oh but henry's is for a good cause so its fine i guess. my biggest question is where the f is our taser during the office gameplay?? T_T
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11:45 theres no proof
He just said it
The "I have a feeling you are right where you want to be" gets even more sinister taking on account that Michael was really not that good of a person and most probably a William lackey, so Henry did not left Michael in the building so he could rest in peace, he did it to send him straight to hell/purgatory alongside William
Is it me...
Or is this whole video DUNKING on Christianity?
Like the whole Double-Standard, all-knowing, no need to question the rightness of actions thigy(s)???
Probably just me lol