Hifiman HE-4XX vs Sennheiser HD600 Comparison
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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2019
- A comparison between the Hifiman HE-4XX and my tried and true daily drivers, the Sennheiser HD600! Reminder, running these off of my Aune X7S or my Samsung Galaxy S9 plus.
--- Compared Headphones ---
** Sennheiser HD600 **
-Amazon: amzn.to/2W8K2WH
** Hifiman HE-4XX **
-Massdrop: www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop...
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I was trying to decide if I should pick up the Hifi-mans from MAssDrop, and this sold me. Great comparison and description !
I like your review. I hope you will do more reviews
I liked the analogy haha
Good review man. I like it. I have Sennhesier HD6XX from Mass Drop and they sound great but, I hifiman seems interesting but, maybe not for me. I don't know why you have so many dislikes on this video. Good explanations and everything.
Great VIdeo, I want to take the dive on the 4xx but i hear so many scary stories that it I find it hard to take the dive.
@@ItsVab got em yet?
The first wave were very bad, afterwards they fixed most, i did have one connector come loose, but one drop of hot glue and 3 mins later, fixed
Quick summary, HD600=Old style,dependable and smooth sounding, whereas HE4XX= fresh, large soundstage and dynamic sounding. I don't own both of them but own other cheaper ones.
For the metaphor I was thinking more Your Wife vs Your Best Friend - they both give you something different and you need both for different reasons
I'm thinking HD600 for female vocals and acoustic recordings and HE 4XX for gaming and electronic
Gotta experiment more with orchestral to see which soundstage I prefer
Dude you have an incredible voice
Good Job again
Thanks man!
the hd600 are a wonderful pair of headphones super neutral very light and airy sound .
Trouble was the velour pads always got my ears very hot after an hour or so
huh duh six hundgeos by ol mate senni
My 4xx arrived without sound on one side , i contacted massdrop and they sent me another pair and luckily this one was working fine . I don't live in the US , so it took awhile to get delivered to me . This is my 1st set of planars , so i was wondering how do they compare to other planars ?
The "planar sound" is mostly noticeable in the extremes of the spectrum IMO. In the 4XX, I find that the bass has that really nice texture familiar to planars. Treble has a similar sweetness to it as well. Although the 4XX are somewhat v-shaped. Soundwise, they are a pretty formidable budget planar HP
Yea, mine after 6 months started going up and down in volume on left and right drivers randomly. Massdrop support was slow to respond and contradicting (one agent said they can refund me on a different card I used and the other one said they can't do that, but they didn't understand they can't refund me on a prepaid card), so I went for a replacement which the 2nd unit was defective as well with one of the screws going loose and I needed to pay 50€ to even get them (the 2nd pair I mean) so I ain't buying from massdrop ever again. So in the end I just localy bought HD 650 and loving them.
My 4xx uses a 3.5mm at the cups. The newer are 3.5mm the old ones are 2.5mm apparently. I also change out my pads on both of these headphones... well on my 58x and 650... this video makes me want to get 600s too though. Dekoni pads help with comfort and clamp on both styles in my opinion.
1. My bad, my 4XX are 3.5 mm too lol.
2. Get them. They're worth it. Plus, this could be your last chance to snag them brand-new since they'll likely be put out of production relatively soon.
3. I haven't tried the Dekoni pads, but I'm kinda reluctant to do so due to that change in sound.
@@chuckolatte600 yeah I think if it's the right pad it changes it for the better. I pretty much swap all my pads, because I hate velour... even if hybrid. Yeah was debating between 600s, the sundara (which is on sale), elex, or argons... for my next set.
Btw I recommend the bravo ocean with the 4xx or the dacportable. These two amps are special with these cans.
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Man once you go to the hd600 its hard for me to go back to my wireless headphones from sennheiser as well the sound in the hd 600 is just next level!!!
It really is, isn't it??
@&Ö& Paneristi Those are my go-tos for going out too, in fact I'm using them to watch this video rn. But I'm always constantly amazed how good the momentums are for being wireless buds, not that they're close to my home set up which is some 6XXs powered by a monolith THX 788 balanced amp with two built in balanced dacs in XLR and that is just in a class that's next level, but that's to be expected in a set up with that much literal power in it. But the fact the momentums can give u even just a little taste of that sound in a tiny wireless package that u can wear anywhere all the time is crazy and the fact that Sennheiser does both so well is the reason they r hands down my favorite headphone company despite me having a few other pairs from a decent variety of companies
I disagree with the Sennheiser HD600 having less comfort, I had both. Sennheiser are way lighter and its easier to forget that you are wearing them, on the other hand, Hifiman pads and headband is slightly better however its heavier and less comfortable overtime.
I had the original 600 and I loved it. I got a newer version , which I must say doesn't look nearly as smart.
Tldr; Get the HD 58X and win. I mean if you prefer He4xx thats fine too, either way you win but with the Sennys you likely wi have them for at least a decade.
so, what about a great amp for the HD600 in the market today under 200? is it the A50s? Or is the Magni good enough? Thanks!
Technically, the Magni is "good enough," but one of the greatest things of the HD6X0 line is that they scale really well with higher-end gear. So I'd go with the A50S if you can.
Here's the link: apos.audio/products/topping-a50s-headphone-amplifier?variant=32557608140874&&sca_ref=476998.V7COrg3aOb
Have you checked out the new 400i from hifiman?
The 2020 version is cheaper and better built than the 4xx, and you can actually get them in not 3 months (love you drop)
I have not. I do plan on taking a look at those in the future though.
To me the pads on the hifiman are extremely itchy to me compared to sennheiser (I can wear my 58x for hours on end). I just ordered the dekoni ear pads off massdrop, hoping this solves the issue.
I never found them to be itchy personally.
I had the same problem, plus the lack of isolation bothered me. I got the Dekoni elite hybrids and not only were they far more comfortable (soft! velour face) angled pads, there was a tremendous improvement in isolation
Help...... I own a Phillips Fidelio x2hr and Sennheiser hd599, do I need a HD 5xx jubilee, or a he4xx?
I want something good for metal music that does not blend it all to a harsh blur.
Since you already have the x2hr (bassy, fun HP), I think you'd benefit more from the 58X
Why did you buy two mediocre headphones? Could've had the 6xx or 4xx for similar money, less even. Don't get the 58x btw, it uses reconfigured 5xx series drivers. Completely different ballpark from the 6xx and 4xx.
@@ReTr093 bought a fidelio x1 for gaming loved it and used it for 4 years, cups where worn out and bought a hd599 to replace the x1. Hd599 was bad for gaming so i bought the X2HR to replace the 599 for gaming. End of story dislike the 599 and X2 HR for gaming but like Them for music.
That's how i ended up with 2 medicore headphones.
Even though they may be called " mid fi", 20 years ago the HD600 was lavished with praise for being hi-fi. Also: I could point out many planars that roll off, starting at 100hz on down. It's not a "dynamic" thing. It's a design thing.
True, I just consider well-extending bass that isn't bloated to be a characteristic of most planars.
chuckolatte I recently jumped on the bandwagon. I have two sets of planar magnetics on order, two different price points. I’m going to be able to compare. My preference is accuracy over any rolled off or bloated boutique voicing.
Your mistress is more comfortable and your wife has the clamp of the Gods... I'm taking your metaphor and applying it to other sections of the video. haha What a perfect way to look at these headphones. A German wife or a New York mistress. In any case life is good! Out of these two I'm taking the HD600, I hope she's a keeper.
I doubt you'll regret it lol
Wait no, the wife should be comfortable/easy, and the mistress should have the "clamp of the gods" (now you understand the purpose of the "kegel exercise" done every day for years :P ) - the mistress is the feisty fiery wild ride and the wife is the one you grow old with.
I have some HE400i. is it still worth it to own both or should I just save up for some Elex?
I'd say it would be good to own the HE400i and the HD600 for a long time before jumping upwards. With two HPs, you can swap between both depending on the genre.
remove the foam behind the planar magnet on the he4xx should help with the mid, and open the sound stage.
That would be an interesting thing to try out, if I still had them lol
There isn't foam behind the he4xx
The pads on my HE4XX after 3 months of careful use have totally detached from the rings (glue suck major balls).
Now im waiting for replacement pads (non angled sheep-skin with memory foam).
I just hate the glued pads, damn you hifiman... ill be buying Verum One this year (altho the headband looks silly).
The infamous hifiman build quality. They always try to make the cost as inhumanely low as possible. If it makes you feel any better, their $3-6k headphones are also crappy. At least this is $170.
After time the 6 series become very comfortable and my HE-4XX does create problems from the headband after an hour or so.
Most love the headband padding on the 600 and 580s
It's been like a year for me and I use my 600 often. Still equally uncomfortable unfortunately.
I wouldn't exactly call the HD600s beauties but it's aight.
I have all of the 6 series and the HD600s are easily the ugliest of the bunch and they also have the worst cable .
I have a HD580 that I replaced the plastic grills with some off off the HD58X and also replaced the cable with one off an HD650.
And since the 580 and 600s have identical drivers I have all of the sound with none of the ugly .
My HE4XX seem to be a decent build quality and for the money are a real bargain.
But I prefer the HD650s to the 600s because the complete lack of Bass on my 600s
Interesting take! I like the 600 over the 650 partially because of their bass too lol. Found the 600 bass has better slam, compared to the lushness of the 650 bass.
You know what's strange, I have an very old dynamic 1.5" drivers Sennheiser, even can't read the model number anymore, and HE400i two years old, and I honestly feel exactly the same regarding their sound. Simply the same as you described about he4xx(which is modded he400i) vs hd600. Perhaps, this is an eternal sound difference between dynamic vs planar worlds.
Generally speaking, I think you're right. However, the LCD-2C were much darker and warmer than the 4XX while still maintaining those planar qualities.
@@chuckolatte600 , I tried to equalize the sound of my senh vs he400i with parametric EQs to fit its measured frequency response but it is sound differently anyway. I think the reason for different sound isn't only in the frequency domain but time domain as well. When I listen any planar headphones I feel the same signature and this is not about frequency response, they sound more effortless and opened vs dynamic ones. One opened back planar to another opened back planar could be equalized with 5-7 parametric EQ with not bad matching and actually, EQs gain needed isn't too big. Finally, I found the best sounding EQs preset to me and my friends is HE400i2Harman, which equalize HE400i into Harman's empiric "ideal" headphone response taken here www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-frequency-response-part-one#3Kf2SHs6zb2mmP96.97
Harman curve significantly reduces sibilants, moves voices forward, and expand a bit infra-bass. The EQ set looks like this cdn.head-fi.org/a/10242379.png
@@ivane1168 Ah, I'm not really a fan of EQ since it makes you dependent on it to enjoy whatever HP you have.
haha, So, is our goal to buy different headphones or enjoy life? And as I said, most people choose Harman curve, instead of hifiman or audeze response ;)
Sennheiser hd600 pads are a yearly routine replacement - they are very weak. the cables every couple of years develope disconnections. and the head band sponge needs to be replaced every 5 years or so... i had to replace one driver after 20 years, and the driver assembly on one side - as the plastic got dried and cracked.
hifiman is not a boutique brand from usa but a Chinese brand. do your homework. And as a Chinese they are one of the more professional headphone manufacturer and developer brands.
His wife finally sees this video...
Bold of you to assume I'm not an incel...lol
@@chuckolatte600 bold of you to assume I im confident enough to be bold.
@@pascaljean2333 how confident of you...
@@chuckolatte600 how confid...
@@pascaljean2333 how
It's more of a U shaped than V shaped
Koss porta pro wins in this comparison lol
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What?
Cable = Chinchilla? KEK
hate the sibilance on 4xx
mistress indeed is fun stuff to have, hahaha 🤣 hope your wife dont watch this
For me i love the hd600... Sold away the 4xx
same, i can't stand bright headphone. neutral, warm and v shape are good for me