Apple Is MOCKING the EU...
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I can imagine Tim cook having an evil villain laugh in the Apple board room when they presented him with the “core technology fee”
Its fine when Google has a fee on the google play store but when Apple has a fee on its own app store nooo, the EU is bullshit anyone with half a brain knows how bad technology is used in politicians hands. The government shouldnt be able to tell a capitalist company what to do, it will limit innovation just like communism did in its time.
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Like a real life Dr. Evil
The funny thing is: Apple could have STILL made it decently hard to Sideload and stuff while still complying, but not like THIS, And now the EU is probably going to get VERY Specific in wich WAY you have to Comply to The DMA , so Apple made it WORSE for themselves for VERY short term Gains.
exactly, and good tbh, Apple needs to be regulated.
@@WybremGamingyou’re the reason the world is in the state is in. Sucking on the teet of the government and worshipping them as your god. Literally going against companies that are changing the world and actually benefiting society. Not some bureaucratic, power hungry, money grubbing, corrupt institution that is the EU.
@@AnonN-sr6uuwait by killing sideloading apple is benefiting society? cmon dude are you really THAT stupid?
@@WybremGamingnot they don’t the EU needs to be regulated for there bull crap. None of us ever wanted this bill crap, after all that’s why we chose Apple over the competitors!
Here’s the messed up part, prior to the EU push, apple actually reduced the amount of free developer apps you can have from 10 -> 3 and if you try to add more than 3, it says you can only have 3 “active” apps
Not even the EU can stop the, "Good morning!"
Apple lawyers are some of the finest.
Or the worst depending
lol
Finest BS creators
Apple is giving the great mouse lawyers over at Disney a run for their money
Because they have the money to pay for them.
3rd party app stores are pretty annoying to have to install if you only care about having 1 app thats exclusive to it
but individual sideloading is for sure necessary to use anything banned from the app store
I pretty like Steam and GOG an pc and I would hate if Windows would force it's only store.
I don't know if something similar will ever happen on mobile os, but I want to make it possible at least. Free competation is great.
Im worried that in the future we will need to have 700 different app stores on our phones because each app will be in a different store
there are few things that make me as happy as drew’s impression of tim’s “GOOD MORNING!!!! 🙏🏻”
The App Store is a monopoly since you can’t buy iOS software outside of apple’s app just like you can on macos, windows, linux, android.
they're not defeating the EU
this will only lead to more strict restrictions
I’m concerned about unintended consequences after everything is said and done. I don’t want there to be Microsoft App Store for MS Office, Adobe App Store for photoshop, Google App Store for CZcams, etc…. Like streaming services are now.
Companies are obsessed with controlling distribution, so that really is inevitable I fear
That is not the case on Android, even though it could be.
There won't be. It's not a thing on Android, everything is on the Google Play Store despite the fact that you can side load.
no need to be, not happening on Android
@@eca3101 that wasn't the case 15 years ago. It's because of Apple fan boys they get away with it.
I think that from the point of view of EU is because it is abusing expectations: when buying an iPhone you are expecting to buy a phone (hence the name), so them blocking choices after the purchase is and abuse against the customer.
This is the same as the HP printers and them blocking the printer from working if you try third party cartridges.
It is a "godfather tax": like a mafioso coming to you and asking for protection money, or else. They say that they will protect you but you have no other option except paying them 30 cents for every dollar you want to pay on their platform.
If you look closer, apple is a mafiioso business model. They make the buyers addicted like drug. Like drug addicts, many will tell how good it makes them feel good. Defend the brand hard to get their dose. No matter what abuse they are subjected to. They will keep saying it's good as long as they got their shots.
To me that just seems like the user not taking responsibility… do some research into the purchase you’re making. People have the power to do so much these days and yet they continue to just throw out accountability fall to the floor and complain how it’s not their fault they brought a phone that works in a specific way, because “it looks cool?” Or cause they think “cool people own them” or “the Apple Store looks futuristic”
@@Lukweo The problem is they thought they bought their phone while it wasn't a purchase. It's normal to use affiliated and approved repairshop during warranty time. Though the cost has to be supported by the manufacturer for hidden failures and any trouble within the the warranty. When you need to keep using manufacturer's network even for non vital parts at unreasonnable prices, that's forced rental. And the "purchase" should be voided and the consumer fully refunded.
Most trade and consumer laws clearly state that what you BUY belongs to you. The way you use it or repair it is only restricted during manufacturer warranty. Provided you do care about it.
The EU was wrong for expecting to control what Apple does with their hardware. People have a choice. If you don’t like Apple buy Android. There is no reason to legislatively turn the iPhone into an Android phone. Even dictating a charging port standard was wrong. If the government wants to dictate that, invest the billions Apple did in research and development. Epic was also wrong. They deliberately broke the terms of a contract and should have been laughed out of court, but a judge allowed them to get away with it. They didn’t need to have their games in the App Store, they wanted to. Their partnership with iPhone did a lot for them, but then people get u grateful eventually.
@@netvisionz Apple is wrong to want to force its view on consumers. The other way around your argument is if Apple doesn't want to comply, it can stop selling in the EU and if it doesn't like legislations, it can use its billions to found its own nation, regulation and market.
You can sideload apps on a Mac. They don’t talk about that, but it works.
I think Apple should approach this the same way. Ignore it and maybe “the problem” goes away?
Malicious compliance is the best compliance.
Yeah only for apple. Not for the consumer or the small or large developers.
GOOD MOURRRRRRRNNINGGGG!
I can’t wait for him to add in camera shakes and wind blowing his hair back for it lmao
@@blackmanrunfree i'm waiting for Drew to take his act on the road
I just think you're wrong on the whole "Let Apple decide to allow sideloading or not" when literally EVERY OTHER operating system lets you INCLUDING macOS.
@bobladif7249 yeah why not? Just because you can't use it doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to
It should be like the way it is done in Android and MacOS, where there is a setting burried several layers deep in the settings app to enable side-loading.
Most people don't install apps outside of Google Play because they don't trust third-party sources. My view is if they do, and something goes wrong, that's on them, and not something Google should be concerned about.
Exactly, some Apple evangelicals against this law act like if regular ppl go about their day on the web then a few clicks later they have 8 malware apps installed. This is far from the case on Android, except from having to enable installing from untrusted sources deep in settings, every install gives another warning and looks completely different than a play store install. Apple could make this even more obscure like requiring your full Apple ID to be entered at install.
+1. On android, you are either blissfully unaware of sideloading, or you have flashed a ROM at least once before. Same goes for intel Macs when you could still dual boot Windows
Android doesn't bury it. It lets you directly turn it on the instant you install an apk, xapk or an apks file from the web. Apple users are so out of touch.
@@methamphetamememcmeth3422 I have a Pixel 7a and an iPhone. I am describing my experience on the Pixel, where it was certainly possible to sideload, but definitely not friction-free in the way that installing from the Play store is. I think they have the balance right.
@@methamphetamememcmeth3422 In that case, maybe it should be
Everyday I pray for Apple's downfall.
Good luck with that. 😂
What a purpose to have in life eh? Good for you.
keep praying
You must have a lot of time to waste.
That GOOOD MOOOORNING killed me lol
We got USB-C… Can’t win them all!
Well if people brick their phones downloading apps not from the App Store, that’s their problem 😂
You know they'll find some way to blame Apple anyway 😂
@@JPS13Laptop Exactly, just like the “PlAnNeD oBsOlEsCeNce” when in actuality it’s just no longer feasible to keep running ios in those older devices, the internals are just not capable of running them and on top of that the older models have less storage so they are prone to data capping.
If the App store was anti-competative before, it certainly is now! Honestly I feel that if I own the phone I should be able to install what I want on it. Let me side-load!
Why not Try to do this with playstation or xbox
Buy and android then because most if not all of us who have an iPhone never wanted that and is the whole reason why we picked apple over the competitors
You picked an iphone because it limits your app sourcing options?
You do realize having the option to sideload is not in a single way bad for the consumer and was only a problem for apple's monopoly?@@Duffster115
@@yinchen7835you can in fact do both, there have been dedicated apps for it for years.
No we don’t to install crap on our phones
I think I would be ok with their App store exclusivity if the "Apple tax" was being used to subsidize the price of the Iphone, selling it at cost (like Sony does with Playstation). However, they charge a PREMIUM on the Iphone and then block the ecosystem, it's just anti-consumer all around.
"Good morniiiiiing" always makes me laugh 🤣
I'm with you, governments shouldn't be telling private companies how to run their business.
Im understand both sides of the argument but im leaning towards Apple with this one. Just my opinion.
That move is complying with the “Think different” 😂
Regarding the "you're not being forced to use an iPhone," I would argue many kids ARE forced to use iPhones since their parents choose to use them, and they want to communicate with FaceTime, FindMy, iMessage, Airdrop, etc. There's also A LOT of social pressure to use iPhones as a teen, so while you're not being "forced," societal pressure is Definitely a factor.
Some schools use Apple products as well. So you could be pressured or forced into using them.
I would like side loading aswell but I do question this decision. It not like the consumer didnt have a choice. They don’t have to buy a iphone and android provide that alternative option and is far more popular than iphone. Also with this bill it seem it target qpple specifically yet there other industries that do same like the gaming industry with nintendo, sony, and microsoft. If you own a switch you are locked into nintendo ecosystem and even worse they can shutdown support when the console gets too old denying you access to the store all together. I just don’t get the hype fixation on apple on this one. Resources could have been spent better trying to improve other parts of the free market.
Well even if you disagree - just imagine MacOS or Windows baring you from installing apps if not through their store and where we would end up if that was the case. Phones aren't what they used to be, arguably they are faster than some desktop pcs or macs, especially older ones. So it's time that they get the same treatment of being an open system where owners can decide themselves how to use them.
Also the EU is all about the spirit of the law and not the word of the law, this malicious compliance is going to get them fined even if it's according to the words of the law.
well yeah its common in many countries around the world, malicious compliance is a thing everywhere and is against the law in most places, eg tax evasion is techniquely 'legal' in that you dont break the tax code but the act of attempting to run away from tax is illegal.
if it's released and I can block 3rd party app stores in MDM, it's the first switch I flip when it's released
I Agree with 100% of what you said thanks.
I love how we found out about CHONK lightning after you posted this 😂😂😂😂
your killing it with these Skits! I love it 🙌
There is a reason why I confidently put my credit card information in my iPhone but wouldn’t dream of doing that with an Android phone.
Because you're the sort of tool that would pay $700 for a set of wheels?
Setup suggestion: duplicate the blue light from the right side of your set to the left as well, and try playing with the angles a little bit. I think that’d look awesome and bring out the blue that’s your channel colour
To be fair there’s that many apps that are “Free” and hit you with a paywall the second you open them that I don’t have a problem with killing free apps. Obviously this isn’t the best way to resolve the issue but something needs to be done to stop developers adding free apps that aren’t free to the App Store, or at least a way to demarcate them as such like with the ‘in app purchases’ line, also a way to filter them out of search results
Yup 99% of apps have a paywall.
the f-droid app store is great for that because it only allows FOSS (non-profit) applications
Here's where I stand on the whole "privacy" thing: if Apple was really concerned with user privacy, they should have the right to either mandate specific rules for how third party marketplaces on iPhone verify apps' safety or they should review how those marketplaces verify them to ensure they meet Apple's standard, but to place a tax and verify it themselves is a bit too far
Apple's lawyers are the living embodiement of "malicious compliance"
This is my favorite skit!
EU being a bully again.
I wonder if Apple think they can drag their feet until the EU give up
Okay that was one of the funniest openers I've seen in a long time!! nice... I gotta rewatch that.
Game streaming is already available for the iphone
You know I do like the iPhone because when I download an app it works. On my android it’s a crapshoot. I know apple does it for money but they are quite stable
You are correct. This is the case on modern android phones as well. A lot of inferior apps pass on the Play Store.
I wonder if Apple will just copy the Mac system or something else
Also my mom almost got scammed and hacked and probably would have if you could have downloaded apps from non app stores so it can’t be too easy
@@malekabdoh8639 extremely unlikely it would make any difference it's only purely beneficial, scammers aren't gonna use some third party app store to do anything it's not a big enough install base it's all call based and email based scams
@@malekabdoh8639my mom almost got scammed but Apple stopped it from the malicious actor to gain control of the system by popping up warning saying the app could potentially be unsafe.
That’s when she called me.
This shows that it does work. To let anyone and their grandma have the ability to just sideload is absurd
@malekabdoh8639 that's her problem not ours
@@malekabdoh8639 Maybe something like android where you have a toggle that's off by default with an explanation of the dangers? If you then decide to turn it on anyways and install 3rd party apps you are accepting this risk. I don't see why we should limit the ability to install 3rd party apps just because some users don't understand that there are risks involved. Also your mom probably uses Windows or a Mac in which case a decent number of apps are already installed outside of the app store/windows store?
The way Apple is treating developers is pissing me off to the point where I'm seriously considering switching to an Android phone again ... Despite my very mixed feelings for Android.
Like, I'm all for quality control and safety that Apple claims to be fighting for. But that's just not what they're doing anymore. Instead they're alienating developers to the point where the iPhone and iPad simply don't get a lot of useful apps. Sure, it also means a some junk is left out, but at this point so much junk and blatantly ripped off stuff slips through in the App Store anyway 🤷🏼 Especially in the game selection.
Sideloading and alternative app stores should be an option. It doesn't need to be enabled by default, but it should be an option for those that need it. Of course at your own risk. Just like it is on a Mac.
apple gave the option to the devs to continue with the old way just keeping the app on the app store nd not using the new dma stuff
Great intro 😎
The wall would look cooler without the lights
Yeeeaa…phk epic I just hope that infinity blade will come back to the AppStore
love the skits
Why the heck people need a second App Store in their phone?? I don’t get it
Making a law saying Apple is not allowed to restrict user freedom of chice, individualism and diversity is not against individualism and not against freedom. The only thing the EU really did is going against the "voting with the wallets thing", which doesn't work, as we have seen in the USA: Bigfarma, Healthcare, Oil industry, some of the tech industry, Lightbulb industry........ (Let's be honest, your wallets aren't big enoug, and who has a big enough wallet, doesn't give a crap about you or the average joe...)
Apple might not be the only option for consumers, but closing platforms, ecosystems are dangerous presidents, enforcing freedom is always good, restrict one big guy to cause harm to billions - that is the definition of democracy.
Is it possible to light a fart with a over heating iphone 15pro max?
I do it all the time
it is possible. i am upgrading just for this feature.
It's definitely not the same as claiming that "Netflix has a monopoly on Netflix", the equivalent would be if Microsoft for instance decided to start its own streaming service and banned all other streaming services on Windows.
Not the same, because there wasn't decades of Apple allowing side loading and then they suddenly banned it. Apple launched it this way
@@TailosiveTech "It's always been this way" isn't exactly an airtight defence against anticompetitive scrutiny though. While yes, the closed model of the App Store has remain unchanged over the years, what has changed is its sheer scale in facilitating digital services and connecting billions of people and businesses. It's now far more ubiquitous and relied upon which is why the App Store (separate from the iPhone) has been named as a critical intermediary service.
It's the same reason why Xbox and PlayStation haven't been targeted in the same way. They're equally closed app distribution platforms just like the App Store, but they're not critical digital infrastructure, they're game consoles. It's the ubiquity and scale of the App Store that's evolved, even if its business model has remained the same.
@@alanharper23go buy an android
Looks like it didn't go well for Apple. EU has slapped them down big time.
I'm totally pro free market. If you don't like it, you don't buy it.
I don't like made up rules just because some company grew enough to get noticed.
The best protection for the consumer is free capitalism. The only tricky part is keeping lobbies out of it.
I totally agree with you.
10:55 gave me a jumpscare
One good thing about this is Apple will still be reviewing apps which means no-one will be able to easily introduce malicious software that at best are annoying and any worst are national security risks.
Are you saying macOS is a national security threat
@@leviandhiro3596 It would be a potential national security threat if it had the form factor as an iPhone and had some of the shady developers pushing malware on the device like they did in the early days of Android.
This is bullshit. According to data published by Apple themselves, they have stopped roughly the same amount of malicious software in their store annualy as Google did in theirs. Be honest, have you ever really read anything about this subject or even listened to someone else other than Apple's PR? To me it sounds like you're regurgitating the same bullshit Apple is feedng you like a good little boy.
I mean, if you downloading apps not from the apple store, it’s not their problem
a national security risk? bro are you okay? you do realise that the idea isnt that your forced to download software outside the app store its that the option exists? If your really worried about malicious software then sadly the app store already has malicious software. There has been many cases of malware getting onto the app store, no one is safe.
So does this Digital Markets Act include all the game consoles too?
I'm all for the DMA and to be honest I think if it doesn't include game consoles already it should?
@@seleneblok I have concerns regarding the potential impact on hardware manufacturers. Without significant safeguards, allowing third-party app stores on dedicated hardware could create an uneven playing field. Third-party stores without research and development (R&D) overhead might be able to undercut established hardware companies on price, jeopardizing their ability to invest in future innovations.
@@KC_79 Sounds like the same argument Apple has with the iPhone.
@@simonk5885 What is the optimal strategy to address this issue? I could launch a store with a minimal commission fee of 1% or less and still be profitable, since the software development costs are negligible compared to Apple's R&D budget, which was nearly $30 billion in 2023.
Honestly I would have been fine with Sideloading being done by downloading to the Mac and uploading to the iPhone like the iTunes days.
If I ever leave the garden I would do something like the Fair Phone because if I am making a hard break from the Garden I want the Anti-Apple Device. Not android phones that chase iPhone in look and practice.
U.S. Americans focus a lot on freedome for the the 1 pct rich powerfull owners. EU focus on freedome for 99 pct. If you want competition in capitalisme. You have to have progressive taxes, regulations and split to big to fail companies up.
Apple hardware and software store is like when a company owns the powergrid, sewercanal or internet cables. These companies also have to let other companies compete on their grid/hardware because competion on all “grid/hardware”(phones/internetcables a.s.o.) gives the best price all over on everything for 99pct of us and that is more freedome/money for 99pct of us instead of focusing on the rich 1pct.
Just buy android dude. People are not being forced
You’re not being forced to sideload.
Imagine if Microsoft only allowed you to download apps from the Microsoft store on Windows, is that not a monopoly?
dont they do that with the xbox and PlayStation and switch or can you add apps from the side. Im curious bc as much as it would be nice to allow apps from other stores each companies have the right to choose. my viewpoint but I do wish we could choose if we wanted to download from outside the store.
@@Yoshi123vettel That's a great question, to which I do not know the answer, why are consoles not held to the same standards in terms of you can only install from one source. Though I suppose the reason is that:
A console is designed to do one thing, play video games, and maybe watch movies or tv shows via streaming services, so there's no need to try to get different types of apps onto those platforms.
@@Omeggaomelet I believe the EU will go after Apple bc they are a big company. But they aren’t a monopoly other than the smartwatch industry but it’s not a monopoly bc to use an Apple Watch you kinda need an Apple Watch ⌚️. I disagree with EU getting involved. Bc if Apple started charging 70% App Store fee and developers left so would consumers. I think atleast on the switch you can only download from Nintendo store. 🏬
Yes and they got dinged by EU for same stuff.
@@Yoshi123vettelconsole is not apples to apples comparison. Those are sold near cost basically. iPhones are part of a global telecom infrastructure.... arguably the industry should be treated like public utility like land lines.
Fact is, iOS and iPad OS are on an island in not allowing sideloading. Mac does it.
And I don't understand John Prosser and others who are afraid of even having the ability to sideload as an option. You could turn it off. The default setting would be to restrict it, just like Android.
Only a fraction of Android users sideloading but it opens up a world of open source utility that I would not want to go without.
Browsers with desktop extensions. Privacy focused browsers. Third party launchers.
But Prosser et al could stay in the walked garden of they want. Why do they care if I sideload f Droid?
It almost seems like a ideological position against EU and regulations or maybe just blind cultural connection to iPhone.
Some of the same people defend their anti repair tactics as well. Which is strange to argue for serialized parts and the like .
Downloading apps from anywhere hey wow what could possibly go wrong
I bet there will be a DMA bis.
The Tim’s voice is on pint 💀🤣
Apple has a monopoly on ios. When you spend 500 1000 bucks on a phone you would be free to install apps from anywhere you please not just from the apple store. The apple storeIS a monopoly. And a disrupting one that won't let ppl use their devices the way they want
the "people" you are talking about dont care about sideloading. they dont even know it exists. only you, in the "tech" community knows about all of this stuff. people dont even know what processor is inside their phones. u are delusional
@@rtx_____ the point they don’t care does not mean apple should also not care. The whole point of this discussion is why a cheaper phone delivers better hardware and practically better software I. 90x100 of situations.i mean it’s quite ridiculous we are in 2024 and you still are unable to edit between numbers when dialling in the phone app of an iPhone..
I believe what Apple is doing is called “The big ask.” They intentionally made it way worse than they had to do that when developers and the EU ultimately get into this again with them and they changed things to be more in line with what Apple wants it will seem like a good thing.
kinda funny how there are apple shills in these comments defending a thing that only hurts them as a consumer...man apples marketing is good.
No, Apple actually created something that every other tech company has coveted forever. This is why every Android user wants the iPhone to be like Android. I own devices for both platforms. I personally like Apples approach for their platform, high security, no need for antivirus software. Android also has its positives, but I love having an alternative that just works properly and isn’t as open source. It’s like they are trying to kill diversity.
@@netvisionz you need to check apple vulns, sorry but u are wrong on the security
@@netvisionzits killing diversity in one way, while creating diversity in another i guess.
@@netvisionz It's only a illusion of security, by restricting freedom, the same freedom can be achieved on android by not sideloading, but those who want to should be able to on a device they purchased. Also, in what world is being open sources ever a bad thing? Please rationalize that to me, because it takes a type of sheep mentality to believe that.
i wouldnt say the app store is a monopoly, but the company heavily engages in monopolistic and anti-competitive practices. they are in a duopoly with google play store on the other side for android. difference is the play store has already been forced to stop their anti-competitive behaviour and has always allowed side loading and alternative app stores on android devices (mostly because android is open-source) but you get the point. The diffference between app store and netflix is netflix is a subscription service and not a marketplace, while the app store does work as a marketplace where users pick from a range of applications. which apple has entire control over.
EU is going to adjust the language I suspect. Apple can be petty as hell. There is no downside to alllw sideloading. If customer doesn't want outside app, dont download them.
I think the EU laws ere good changes. Apple is not a family run business - they are a trillion dollar company. They can and do abuse their power, so I think governments should step in and help users & developers (many of which are family run businesses) as they can't be trusted to do the right thing out of the goodness of their heart. That being said, I think there needs to be a lot more of a crackdown on data collection & privacy too (GDPR was a good start, but more is needed) and that would certainly affect Google a lot more than Apple.
Finally someone with common sense. You can close your restorant tomorow noone cares. If Google and Apple do the same the western civilisation and economy will collapse. That's hiw much they power have. tens or hundreds thoasands of businesses depend on their services. They can make many of them bankrupt with small policychanges. This is in insane power already and they just grow bigger and bigger every year. The governments should step in. they should have step in way earlier to reduce this dependency and risks.
I like the simplicity of having one app store
Om then use that one but why should I not be allowed to use a different app store or side load
@@leviandhiro3596 You absolutely can do that. Nothing stops you from using Android.
but why cant i sideload/use a different app store
not being able to use adblock on youtube is literally like the main reason i didnt buy an iphone
any ios version after 15.4.1 is basically left in the dust as far as jailbreaking goes and altstore requires resigning every 7 days
@@randomgamingin144p you can - on android
You can Adblock on CZcams in the iPhone if you watch through safari, which really isn’t a bad experience
10:35 completely agree with you .
I agree with the fact that this isn't monopolistic and people are just throwing terms around so they can hide the fact that they are throwing inner tantrums because they aren't getting their way. My opinion of course!! It seems we are just getting into an area where governments can just regulate EXACTLY how you can run your business to the minutia. I'm not into that personally. If I don't like it, I just won't buy an iphone.
Its like Apple DIY Repair program 😂
I want the banks in my country to allow us to add our cards to the Apple wallet so I can use Apple Pay
I'm glad I'm a droid user at this point
Funny how they go the unity road
What free app is going to not go on the App Store though? There’s no benefit. Only reason to be on a different App Store is to keep some more of that 30%. If it’s a free game it wouldn’t matter
8:33 almost 20% of all the money apple makes is from the IOS app store's revenue cut alone. so they're going to make billions by delaying it
Apple is acting like a child. In the process they'll make a few extra bucks, but they're also destroying their reputation towards developers and the general population (especially in Europe). I'm seeing more and more people here boycott Apple, or just have a very negative view about it as they did about Facebook a few years ago. It's very hard to repair long term reputation.
As long as they make great phones, none will care dude
Dont worry, they will hate android as well.
That sounds condescending as heck that users shouldn't be able to sideload
8:44 …Drew, you’re a big brother, aren’t you? I can tell.
I thought the 3rd party marketplace was for the benefit to the consumers, not the developers?
Thats benefits large developers. Only benefit to consumers is confusion.
I appreciate Apple sticking to their guns on this. If you want to side load buy an Android but no government should be able to force a companies implementation of that companies own hardware. It’s no different then the idiotic choice page when it comes to your browser in Europe or the constant having to accept cookies on a site I’ve already accepted them on
It’s not the hardware, it’s the software, hence the “digital” markets act. And governments regulating anticompetitive practices within markets is nothing new. Microsoft almost got split into two companies for something very similar; leveraging their dominance in one market to suppress competition in another.
Hard disagree. If I buy a product then I own it and I should have the freedom to do whatever I want with it. No company should be able to tell you what you can and can't do with your own stuff.
@@alanharper23 I stand corrected it is Apples software were talking about, as such noone is forced to use it, just like noone is forced to buy iPhones. There are other phones and there are other software to be utilized and purchased. As far as @20quid point is concerned I think you should have the right to do whatever you want with the hardware you purchase, however, I think once you use the hardware in a way unintended then Apple should have the right to void all service to that device. No access to the app store, no Applecare, I dont even think they should have to service that hardware. Its a fair tradeoff for freedom of choice. I’m not of the opinion you get your cake and eat it too. If you use the product as intended then you get all the benefits, if not, then it is what it is. I don’t believe in forcing flaws into a functioning system that consumers have bought into and understand. When you get your phone you accept the ToS, noones holding a gun to your head. If you you want to buy an iPhone and blow away the OS I think you should be able too but even Android doesnt really support ROMs as it disables KNOX on Samsung and all biometric security but again, if you want a janky biforcated shitshow, Android exists. 🤷🏽
@@Player_Zhirow The fact that there are alternatives to either iPhones or iOS has no bearing on whether Apple’s practices are anticompetitive. With such critical digital infrastructure operating as a market in and of itself, the App Store deserves regulatory scrutiny like any other.
That is the funniest part tho. Apple doesn’t have years, but months. The DMA hasn’t been followed nether by the spirit of the law not technically as written.
To go from 10% fine to 20% is only 3 rulings within 8 years
Apple just shot themselves in the foot.
I’m hyped for your Vision Pro content
Imagine being excited about this….
i dont care for 3rd party stores that much, and i see the pro-apple argument as apple transitions to selling services that run on their hardware, but i think sideloading is a MUST, they can definetely burry it in settings, and i would have them sandboxed by default as well, they can have stern warnings on the switches if they want
I buy iphones for the reliability and longevity, but it would be great to have it be more like my linux desktop (apples software is already extremely efficient and optimized) in the selection of software i could have at my disposal on iOS as an advanced user
android give you the option in setting that allow you to download apps outside the playstore apple can do the same thing
Good on Apple, screw the EU, will always get apps from the app store, many years ago I had an Android phone and sideloaded apps, biggest mistake, phone got hacked by a crap app and had to get all new bank cards, worst two months of my life trying to get everything sorted out.
Be careful what you wish for people.
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I'm tired of this discussion. All the arguments again side loading are so stupid. And you can tell that Apple PR team is absolutely amazing. They're so good, they convinced a ton of people to bend over backwards to defend anti-consumer move as pro-consumer ones.
People are talking about malicious software and all, when Android has allowed side loading forever, it's never tanked the Google Play Store, it's never been a massive security issue or whatever. 99℅ of people won't ever side load anything. Just slap some scary warning and it'll dissuade most people, and those people will already be a minority.
Let us side load apps on the iPhone, just like we can on a Mac. It's not that hard and there are no good argument against it. It's not a problem on Android, it's not a problem on the Mac, it won't be a problem on the iPhone.
And please stop using the word sideloading to make it more scarier. It's called installing.
@@bdzsanaIndeed! Sideloading already sounds like you're doing something sneaky that's actually not allowed. First it was just called installing, then it became installing from an unknown source and now they call it sideloading. Nothing has changed but they made it sound scarier and illegal.
I live in europe and I can tell eu will take action against apple if it does not comply
Free loading isn’t free.
Im sure everything the comments said about portless iPhones was a real thought at some point.
Yeah the re-draft will take another 10 years lol
Speaking as a Brit; anything which annoys the EU is a 'good thing'. Though if the DMA was applied fairly I would support it; imagine being able to load the GPS software you want on your car instead of having to suffer from the manufacturer's choice...... and before anyone complains, the infotainment system in your car is separate from the vehicle management systems.
Anything that pisses off the EU. 😅
I feel like apple might get the Microsoft treatment lol