The similarities with Spencer and Trina and their need to please the two toxic entities(Portia and Esme) out of fear of rocking the boat. Him with Esme and her with her mom. You have Trina sneaking out of her mother's house. You have Spencer sneaking into his own grandmother's house, checking to see if Esme is at home before proceeding to set the scene for a dinner for two with him and Trina.
@@blackbutterfly3364 Spencer and Trina need to sneak themselves into bed and Let's Get It Own. You do have a great point and once the sneaking stops, it is own for these two.
@@goodmusiq3539Rory was also a grown up with a career. Right now Spencer just playing Mr. Mom. I also think the point was to show Trina with this seemingly “perfect” guy and show that she still wanted Spencer… and all the mess he brings.
@@vjones4769 honestly I can’t blame Trina for choosing Spencer over Rory because he sold her a dream. He was chasing her for the longest. Saying all the right things, making it seem like she was his one and only. I can’t fault her now because Spencer changed up. He presented himself like a suitable option when he’s not ready to be in a relationship. The whole purpose of him moving in with Esme was to catch her slipping, find evidence to send her to jail, and adopt Ace. Now that he’s been playing house for so long, he likes where he’s at. That’s why he don’t wanna move out. He likes being a pseudo baby daddy because he thinks he can do it better than his father. And he can fall back on his daddy issues and make excuses, but he can’t build a future with Trina if he’s still stuck in the past. He never fully addressed his childhood trauma when he was with Esme, which is why they didn’t work out and now history is repeating itself. He needa do like Portia said and let Trina go 😭😭😭
@@goodmusiq3539 exactly spencer sold Trina a dream he is only interested in her when she is with someone else and he is unavailable. In reality spencer is not mature and I believe you’re right he likes where he is at and has became way too comfortable it’s his strange living arrangement. I don’t see spencer and Trina lasting long after there love scene a relationship like this just isn’t solid enough to make it for the long haul.
The look that Trina gave Spencer when he offered for Esme to eat with them was reading the room and I loved every minute of it . Her directness with Spencer was spot on. The new writers are stepping up.
I liked that she said her part and didn’t say “it’s ok”. But why are they writing Spencer to be a dummy. Since when does he have trouble telling folks they can go to hell? Lol. The writers need to remember who Spencer is at his core. He can have growth and also tell Esme to kick rocks.
@@nfgc86 Yes because Trina agreeing to the living arrangement was ridiculous...at best. Appreciated how Trina speaking up finally made Spencer step up. Need to see more of this Trina
It’s really annoying that Spencer won’t let Esme play the “single mom” position. It’s not all in her head. He’s selling her a dream. There’s no need for him to coparent she needs to figure it out like everybody else.
@@goodmusiq3539 And I wish the show would lean into what you just said. At this point, Spencer’s interest in raising this child feels more about him correcting his own childhood issues than Ace or Esme. He’s said himself that she’s a good mom. So back off and let her be a single parent. The whole story is just very convoluted. Because I can guarantee everyone at home is thinking “why can’t he just visit Ace…”.
@@nfgc86 yea it just goes to show you how emotionally immature he is. When he was with Esme he couldn’t be honest about his feelings for Trina. He made it seem like it was all in Esme’s head when it wasn’t. Now that he’s with Trina, he won’t be honest with her that he can’t see their relationship moving forward because he’s so stuck in the past. He knows damn well Ace is perfectly safe with Esme. This is about him living out the childhood he wished he had via Ace. That’s why he don’t wanna move out. He always wanted a two-parent household with his mom and dad and now’s his chance to live that out with Ace. He knows he can’t be the man Trina needs. He needs to let her go like Portia said.
@@goodmusiq3539 Call me selfish, but I’ve invested too into this pairing for all that 😂. I’d rather Spencer have the personal growth that allows him to move on from his trauma and let go of this pseudo family. I think it would be a waste of a complex character to have him strapped to this baby situation. I’m not a writer, but I’d never have my young Emmy winning male lead stuck on a sofa rocking a baby…
@@nfgc86 I think the producers and scab writers are playing the long game until the writers strike is over. They’ve already had to deviate from the original direction they had for the characters. Maybe prolonging the baby narrative indefinitely allows them to continue pumping out throwaway content until the OG writers come back from the strike. 🤔 …or maybe the characters were always going to end up here. I truly believe Sprina is endgame but with them being so young maybe this isn’t their time and that’s the point the writers are making. 💭
This would’ve been a great opportunity for Spencer to take Trina out on the town or plan a romantic picnic for just the two of them. But what does he do? He chooses to go with an at-home dinner date knowing they won’t have any privacy and Esme is under the same roof. He gives her the doves but doesn’t even say “I love you” yet. Free my sis Trina from the struggle love 😭😭
lol. I said earlier too that I don't think Spencer knows how to be thoughtfully romantic. Nicholas was/is not around. Who would have taught or shown him how to wine and dine a woman? It's ignorance or lack of imagination.
@@lightuponlight6727 when he was dating Esme he was doing romantic gestures all the time. That’s why she was so hateful towards Trina. He made it blatant where his heart and emotions was at. I don’t understand now that he has the prize his foot is off the gas pedal. Maybe in a roundabout way this is what they all need to grow and evolve as people. 🤔🤔 Trina needs to be more vocal about what she will and will not tolerate and Spencer needs to go heal before he commits to a relationship. Maybe they don’t work out now but in the future they would’ve gone through what they needed to go through to be better people for each other
Spencer is currently so obsessed with protecting Ace. He's not thinking with a romantic head right now. I'm glad Trina checked him on the dinner. The very idea of breaking bread with the enemy. 😡 I'm afraid this will happen again with Spencer. Since he is not being forced to make choices yet, it's all about Ace, and by proxy Esme. Esme, Trina, and Joss see his obsession with his caring for Ace. Something needs to happen to break this preoccupation, and it will either be Nik or a DNA test!
This needed to happen.Notice Spencer is right away checking to see if 'Fatal Attraction's at home which proves he's both uncomfortable around her yet tolerates her for the sake of Ace. It's also telling how highly toxic their relationship was which is why he's afraid of how she'll respond if he tells her no. It's no different from Portia's histrionic theatrics which is used to control those around her and how they respond. That's how Esme was in that relationship. It's called walking on eggshells. With that said, I need to see more of Trina speaking up;not only to Spencer, but her mother as well. Her need to please is rooted in how she was raised.
Exactly! On everything you said! Trina was raised to be polite, patient, helpful and non confrontational. I see a lot of myself and how I was raised in Trina, that’s why I can understand her reticence so well. There were many times that I would agree with something I didn’t really agree with or go along with it either not to hurt someone’s feelings or just to be polite. After people started taking my kindness for weakness I finally had to step up, find my voice, and let people know that I was not to be messed with. I am glad to see Trina do the same thing here! 😊 As for Spencer, I really do think he is just trying to rewrite HIS history through Ace. I believe him. Esme is truly a non factor that he can be with his girlfriend in front of her or WITH her and it doesn’t phase him. He ALSO assured Trina that he was there still to watch Esme in hopes that she will slip up,because the old Esme is still in there. What better way to come to that end than to let her think that you are far more comfortable with her than what you really are? Eventually, thinking she has him in her web again she may start showing her true colors.
I need to see her speak up more too, because it lights a fire under Spencer. He hurried up and got them doves. Here for it. Plus GH needs to put them in the forefront more as ratings are sinking.
This definitely needed to happen I completely agree with you. And you bring up excellent points about the.psychology behind all the behaviors from Spencer and Esme to Portia and everybody (did you see how she spoke to Anna when Anna went to visit Curtis?!?! Portia was the ULTIMATE she devil- but I digress) I guess I just miss the Spencer who's not around Esme. The one who's assertive, brave, and fiercely romantic, extremely thoughtful and protective of Trina. The one we've been loving to watch over the past year since he's truly tried to court and prove himself to Trina. I hope "that" guy comes back soon. Spencer and Trina's romance needs him to return ASAP.
Everything you said 💯🎯. It's not only Spencer, but it's Portia too that needs this talk back. Portia is a whole adult, while Spencer is just barely legal. He's got a lot of unresolved issues, and that's why I'm hoping Ace isn't a Cassadine. He's trying so hard to fix his childhood through Ace that he's jeopardizing his future. Esme Ace, in the whole turning out not to be his baby brother, would close the door on Esme's story and her crimes finally catching up with her. I'm not liking this attachment to Ace at all. Nicholas or whoever the pappy is come forward.
@@flacagonzales Yes to all of this. I agree 1000% that this is him trying to fix his childhood through his so-called brother. And I too don't believe for a second they're of any relation. There are similarities between both Spencer and Trina in the fact that they're scared to offend those around them out of fear of their reaction. The fact that Spencer is afraid of saying no to Esme is a GIANT red flag that he needs to move out. Him having to sneak into the place that he lives while Trina feels she has to sneak out of her mother's🤦🏾♀️ Perfect example of what emotional abuse does to it's victims. You're constantly in a state of hypervigilance because you don't know what's going to happen from one moment to the next. Spencer says he knows that the old Esme is lurking in there, but in truth, she's been showing bits and pieces of herself for quite awhile now.
Can they stop with the insinuation . Why couldn’t Spencer tell Esme the dinner wasn’t for her? Using Esme as angst for sprina is not working. Im glad Trina finally told Spencer she doesn’t like him spending his time with Esme yet how dump is Spencer not realizing how his behaviour towards Esme affects his girlfriend.
This was nice but Spencer's error was snacking over his grandma's place. Should have taken Trina out as Rory did. Esme thought as Trina said, the snacks were for him & Esme. He should have known that. The doves were to shut Trina up. He thought Trina was going to say I love you, that should have been him. I am glad that Trina let him know how she felt, and they still need to do some deep talking.
@@bklynduchess I love the way you think. He knows he is in deep water with Trina, he will think of something. Spencer also got to make things right with Trina or just let her go (he is not doing that). He has a genuine diamond in Trina.
Fact is Trina has been more upset than happy since getting with short tempered Spencer. Ive lost count of how many times he has disappointed her and then apologised, then done it again. He is doing the bare minimum and that is nothing to applaud. Inviting a girl who committed heinous crimes against his then friend/now gf and his bestfriends for a dinner 😳😤🤯extremely careless and a lack of respect for Trina. Hoping for better writing for these two characters or jus set Trina free.
I agree. I haven't watched GH steady in over a decade, but found the clips, saw the actress with Mo on his podcast and thought I would take a gander. They are not treating Trina well in the writing and neither for Spencer. They are creating angst and old school viewers voiced their NO and didn't sit around waiting for the writers to do better on promises. Scrubs aka Pat/Robin fans kept their foot on the writers necks.
So upon watching this for the hundredth time I noticed Spencer does not talk about Trina to Esme. When asked where he was he said he went for a swim. I think this may be intentional. He also checked to see where Esme was before setting up for his date. If he's trying to once again keep Esme from Trina we need that POV . The problem is the writers have isolated him so much he has no one to confide in . He needs a guy friend
The problem with that theory is how is he trying to keep her away from Trina when he invites her to stay and have dinner with the two of them? I agree his point of view is a bit muddy too.
How can one pretend you are not here. We see you Esme and so does Trina. The look on Trina's face was priceless and Esme knew to get the hell out of dodge. Why was she on today anyway?
@@le2800 You want to hear something funny? This whole LMMN comments section in different clip threads and time intervals allsuggested that Esme take that room above Kelly's back when she was still in jail. Heck! I think even Spencer or Laura suggested it too. But 'now' she listens? Think how much uninterrupted romance and couple development we could have had if she had did it back then.
This episode confirms it spencer is becoming a fool for esme again. The old spencer would never do something like invite esme to have dinner with him and Trina. He claims he invited her because she thought the food was for her no he invited her because he sees his girlfriend Trina has put up with too much when it comes to his bizarre living arrangement with esme. Trina has been way too gracious and passive with him and his strange living arrangement and I feel that will be the downfall of this so called relationship. I can see esmes game she wants to move above Kelly’s because she knows she can control and manipulate spencer by using ace. Spencer will most likely become even more obsessed with ace when ace is no longer living at Laura’s house and will be at Kelly’s day and night while esme once again laughs at Trina with how she pretty much can lead her boyfriend by the nose using ace. I see Trina becoming even more fed up with this situation once the Kelly’s move happens and I don’t see spencer and Trina lasting a long time as a couple.
I watched GH for more years than I've been on this earth. I was in junior high when the Cassadines put Port Charles in a deep freeze. I know the kid Spencer was a clever dude. He was always on top of every situation and commanded his presence, and would have never grown up be this dumb.
We are watching this scene with esme 's presence, at this point her presence was necessary? Of course not why writers want give us her presence in every single sprina 's scene it s so inappropriate and unpleasant.......again a bad story where is FV is the maestro and I can't follow this bad rythme
Spencer, have you lost your damn mind!!!....you are lucky Trina is one of them calm females....I am glad she finally spoke her mind because Spencer's doing too much now with this Esme situation.....why don't they just go out to eat at a fancy restaurant or go have a picnic with each other or something.....they don't have to do all that in front of fake-it Esme.
Esme is still plotting her goal is to move up stair in Kelly's with Ace . This idea is to have Spencer visit she and Ace away from Trina making it easy for her to have complete asset to Spencer.
Spencer is no match for Esme, she is already breaking down his distain barriers about her and he doesn't even realize it, she is truly a master manipulator, I love the way Trina was more like herself and not sticking with that "it's alright" to all Spencer's lame excuses, I must say Spencer seem to be picking up on Trina's displeasure with him making those off the wall comments, the nerve of him inviting the demon child to eat with them 😲
@@a.m.lindsay2900 I bet you Spencer knows now that this sister girl is not going to put up with this Esme stuff any longer. Spencer, Trina is a black woman, and she will not continue to be used by Esme and her tricks.
@a.m.lindsay you are right Spencer is no match for Esme he tried before and fail. Spencer was waiting for Trina to say I love you but instead. she keep him on the hook.
Omg, finally! It’s about time Trina check him. It is painful to watch these dumbass Esme scenes. Was Spencer always this dense? Thank the Lord Trina had to spell it out.
@le2800 yes but that's no excuse. This is ESME !! She screwed over ur friends, almost sent the woman u love to prison, manipulated you, slept with ur daddy, got pregnant by your daddy, hooked people in PC, etc. Yet u want Trina to sit down n eat with this woman.... I don't think so. N the fact she actually explain this to him is just crazy. No one should be this dense. As soon as Trina walked in the room, her energy showed n u were worried about utensils. Go somewhere with that foolishness.
@@le2800 You are correct, when I was married to my second husband, in my mid-30s, had an argument and he said he was going back to his ex-wife. I told him to take his boys and get to stepping. His ex-wife sent him and the boys back and said I have no problem with your wife. I should have not taken him back, hell to the end for us.
Why is it that when Spencer is home Esme is there? Do she work? When he talk to Alexis Esme is listening outside the door. Now she is at work. Where ever Spencer is so is she 😡
Spencer saying, "it's me" is exactly like when John Lennon tipped his glasses down and told Paul McCartney those same words. Esme knows her place now and was trying to respect Spencer and Trina. He thought he was being gracious, but instead, he seasoned his foot and dug in. Trina is finally talking out her feelings about him! 🎉 She needed him to know and he got the direct, honest message loud and crystal clear. Step up, or step aside. He chooses to step up, great! Let's hope he keeps it that way. Trina is not going to tolerate any more nonsensical foolishness.
He bought crackers, cheese and salami for dinner with Trina? What the hell 😂 He really don't care about this girl. She can't even get a Chipotle burrito! Damn.
The girl risks her life to save his. She gets a tap on the back when they return. Crackers and cheeses for a romantic dinner, her enemy that tried to frame her invited to that dinner, and she has to explain the meaning of the turtle doves to herself. Where is the respect?
Now, this is MY take on everything and I may be wrong, but since Trina is so much like I was in my late teens and early twenties based upon how I was raised by my divorced mother, I will attempt to explain her. As the oldest or the only child of a hardworking divorced or single mom a lot is laid upon your shoulders. You are expected to be independent, dependable, strong, quiet and polite. You are expected to be the helper and the one who never complains because they depend on you so much and along the way you lose your voice. You become more compliant and agreeable with everyone just to “get along”. Like Joss, my friends saw that in me as well. Like Joss my friends sometimes felt the need to speak up for me because they knew that I was non confrontational. Joss grew up being an in your face type of person. She learned from the best Carly. Maybe that’s how she and Trina became friends in the first place. She noticed Trina’s reticence and Trina noticed and admired her outspokenness. They do say opposites attract! 😂 My friends were definitely the far opposite of me! They loved to speak up for me and to “protect me” because they knew that the politeness factor was so deeply imbedded in me that I would rather bottle things up than to seem rude or to hurt someone’s feelings. Trina, in that regard, has never one really dat Spencer down and told him how she REALLY feels about everything, at this point Spencer is running blind. All Spencer knows is that HE wants Ace to have the life that he never had as a kid. All Spencer knows is that pretending to kiss Esme’s butt is a good way to continue to do that. Spencer also knows the REAL reason, other than Ace, for Esme to be living with him is that out of being around each other 24/7 and 365 days of the year ( IF it took that long) that Esme will slip up. What better way to get her to slip up than to be extra nice to her, therefore makin her comfortable enough to perhaps even think that he cares for her when he doesn’t? What better way to make her act the fool than to see that Trina is the one that is upsetting the apple cart! NOT that Spencer is doing this consciously but on an unconscious level. HE is still of a mind that he and Trina are on the same page, “get rid of Esme by any means necessary “. I once had a friend ask me how he was supposed to have known that something was upsetting me when I had never told him. He said he wasn’t a mind reader. I have since learned the direct approach helps. Trina always made Spencer think that even if she wasn’t cool with everything she was “okay” with it. She only let Joss know how she really feels which is why Joss being the “Mama Bear” friend that she is takes over and says the things that Trina should say as well. NOT coming from Trina, Spencer really can’t see how much it really truly bothers her. He just thinks Joss is being pushy and petty and obnoxious. Now, on to Spencer people tend to forget that he is young, practically a kid still when it comes to life experiences. He is a self indulgent kid who was catered to by his dad whenever he was around. His first real crush Emma didn’t really like him as much as he liked her. He was a precocious kid with grandiose ideas of how to win her “love”. Years later he meets Esme who pursued HIM and was his first everything. She didn’t give him a choice of what HE wanted or what HE liked. In his rush to make her happy, the first real relationship he has ever had outside his family, he practically lets her take the reins even letting her go so far as to give him a pet name, Spence. SHE was in control. Trina is the first girl as an adult that HE noticed, that HE wanted, that HE pursued but once he got her knowing how to really open up to her in order to keep her eludes him. He THINKS she should know his heart but because Esme has deeply wounded him he is afraid to tell Trina how he feels about her even though he has easily told others. HE wants to hear those words from HER first. It will be his way of knowing that he was not wrong this time in opening up his heart. My prediction is that IF and WHEN he and Trina makes love for the first time THAT will be when he tells her that he loves her. There’s nothing like a good roll in the bed to make you become more vulnerable! 😂 Unfortunately, I think him sending Esme these double signals in order to trap her will backfire on Spencer because he is fairly naive and she is the great manipulator and Trina may get caught in the crosshairs again. Btw, I feel these replacement writers have been doing a far better job than the original writers. I think they are afraid to move the characters too far along from where the original writers left them so they have them in a holding pattern more or less.
le2000 You did a superb job of breaking down Spencer and Trina's relationship, as well as where Esme fit into that picture. You put it all into perspective beautifully by keeping all emotions out of your analysis and viewing the whole situation through the most objective lens. I identify and agree with everything that you said on all counts. Your words mirrors exactly what is taking place in the subject characters storylines. I for one appreciates your comprehensive assessment, as it really does give credence to the coined phrase...the devil is in the details. Bravo.
This was ASTOUNDINGLY ACCURATE, from Beginning/Middle/End. I applaud the in-depth insight you gave regarding EACH character, and how their trajectories have a tendency to overlap into other areas & people's lives; affecting the outcomes of their own. 👍💖🙂👏👏👏👏
Spencer saying he wont talk about Esme to Joss but he out here inviting Esme to have food with Trina. Literally just left the pool and here he go pulling this tomfoolery. Just sad to see Spencer put Joss feelings above Trina (and this be time and time again)
@@loulou-fx9fu Good point. But, after everything Esme has done to Trina (like to Joss) would Trina really 'have' to speak up? And to her boyfriend, who knows all the history? This is also the same boyfriend who at one time felt guilty for even bring Esme to town because of the pain Esme inflicted on all his friends. Just saying...
The fact that he invited his ex who previously poisoned his current girlfriend, the very same girlfriend standing in front of him to eat together with them on a date is wild
Not sure why Spencer wasn’t able to just tell her that Trina was coming over for dinner with him. He could still have invited her to stay, but why just let her assume the food was bought for her and him? I was only joking the other day when I said he was a handsome dumb dumb… but seriously. 🤦♀️
Last time we saw him, Esme’s name came up and upset Jocelyn and Today he is inviting Esme to dine with Trina, a woman she drugged and framed for a sex crime. Not only is he a dumb dumb, he is being dumbed down to prop up his continued comfortability with her so that they will Team up and fight for Ace together. Its such trash contradictory writing 🤬🤬
@YaaAgubyKete I agree. Spencer is not this idiotic. This is the not same man who blew us all away when he caught Nicholas off guard by repeating his words verbatim in the church. I don't like this Spencer. He's not really this insensitive, naive n gullible.
1:21 Notice how they're changing how Esme with amnesia wears her clothes? Versus how she used to wear her outfits? When she first wore that tunic tank dress (which I love ❤️ I want that fucking top) she wore it with a white bathing suit, platform sneakers and wore it very sexy and confident. Esme with amnesia, she wears it more innocently with a t-shirt and flip-flops
I dont know why the hell Spencer would actually invite Esme to eat with him and Trina. He should have told her up front and said that the food was for him and Trina, and asked if her and Ace can eat out for the evening. If they were supposed to have dinner together he should have bought an actual meal instead of cheese and crackers. Yes Trina expressed some of how she felt but she still holding back; and she should have said that she doesn't want to eat with Esme or have her around. Plus say that she doesn't want him to mention Esme anymore when he's talking about Ace.
I hate to say it, but Trina is not going to be his priority anytime soon. He is zero-ed in on Ace and then by Nov sweeps, he is going to have a new obession w/ Nikolas over a battle of estate power. Spencer pretends he isn't like a Cassadine, but he will be w/ time. Trina deserves better.
Esme is making moves here. If she gets that room at Kelly's, Spencer will have to come to her to see Ace. Thats what Esme wants, Spencer bowing to her will. Trina and Joss will see Esme's manipulation, but Spencer is so needy for Ace he won't. I see a rescue coming, but it will be Trina helping her "man"! 🤔
Spencer didnt tell Esme. That he was at the swimming pool with Trina his (GF). He just looked up at her. The same way that he didn't tell her (Esme) about the food. He had got for him and Trina. Hello SPRINA Family..
No flowers just a simple dinner with Esme like bonus great imagination writers it s the worst idea never proposed in life or soap 😂😂😂....me too i lost my interest after that like trina she lost her appetite 😂 how bad is this writing? I can said that this writing is hurting my feelings like a sprina shipper and i m feeling very sorry and disappointed for trina when her boyfriend is acting like a fool or insensitive guy front of her like trina hasn't feelings or sensitive thoughts ( i m annoying by esme dude stop mentioned her name or invited her it s a nonsense for me). Spencer hasn't make any effort for trina, a basic dinner at Laura's apartment.....he s invited esme to join them (weird situation and goofy move on Spencer's side, he lost his mind 😂.....i can't believe it he said that.....i see FV 's hand on this direction/dialogue (it s incoherent/sadistic/inappropriate). This scene was flat it s a big flop with Spencer's assertions( unwelcome Spencer's kindness towards esme) and trina was supposed ok with that. He s undelicate towards trina, his invitation to esme, he seems very disrespectful front of trina his invitation isn't matching with trina's commitment not this time (it s hurtful and painful to see Spencer behaves like an insensitive person right front of trina). This gift doves doesn't come from him (it s a cyrus's gift, Spencer hasn't give her a proper gift from him it s so sad and pathetic of him, it s a failure for me after 2 years of relationship we saw this bullshit this atmosphere/ambiance weren't romantic......i haven't seen no romantic gesture no romance at all). I saw a big sabotage in sprina's dinner with Esme's presence, i m tired of this. This scene left me a bad taste in my mouth and the second part hasn't solved this problem, sorry writers are wasting my pleasure like usual. I haven't any great expectations with FV and writers but here it confirms my doubts in this case. I truly imagine the worst after i see this episode, when the sequence is correct sprina's scene is so short barely 15/30 seconds .....their kiss scene is barely invisible (i can't stand this mistreatment about sprina and their relationship).
It s sad to notice the fact writers are continued to bring esme constantly in the same picture with sprina it s awful and unacceptable for me sprina can't have a decent dinner together without no interruptions (it s ridiculous at this point and boring to see the same thing endlessly way). Come on writers, really Laura's apartment like a choice for a romantic gesture ( brilliant idea notice the sacarsm related directly😂). How they lack of creativity i mean it s FV 's idea for sure i feel it....he wants always wasting their potential and pairing. Spencer is so limited in his imagination that we saw this terrible thing, only solution in Spencer's mind for a dinner it's Laura's apartment it s sucks (this is a joke....so lame and pathetic...why Spencer is always stuck in this stupid apartment with Esme/Ace). It s not fun to watch and i m sick of it.
I think the romantic gesture was supposed to be the gifting of the turtle doves and the reason they are having dinner at Laura’s is because they are trying to keep things low key for Portia’s sake 🤮. Not the best writing decisions… but also not the worst in recent months.
I love Spencer but seriously, can he please stand up to Esme? She automatically assumes the food is for him and her. Spencer doesn't correct her an inch n then has the audacity to invite Esme to join them. How stupid are you? Can he not see how uncomfortable Trina was? I say this time and time again being devoted to Ace is beautiful and all but how can you really expect the " woman you love " to sit down and break bread with the woman who almost ruined her life.... u are expecting and asking a lot out of Trina.... im glad she told him how she felt and as much as I've been waiting for the Dove moment... it felt like it was a shut up gift not givinh the woman you love gift as a romantic gesture..... especially since you have been holding onto it for months after you waited so long to be with her. It's so sad that your gf doesn't feel secure because U do not know how to put up boundaries with Esme.... ur a Cassadine... u can afford anything but u are choosing to live with Esme. At least she has the sense to separate from you... why can't you do the same??
@bklynduchess, Trina let him know about boundaries and he got the message, and he should know how she feels about boundaries. One thing take your lady away from Esme and to a nice place, even to the park, etc. He should have told Esme that him and Trina were having lunch and could she disappear with Ace for the evening.
Evil Esme was shock that the food was for Trina and Spencer, and Spencer should have let her know that the food was for him and Trina. I think Spencer knows that Esme is getting sweet on him, but he doesn't want to push her and be direct with her because he is still afraid that she may take Ace and run off with him, denying him the access that he is used to. Notwithstanding, it was bad taste for Spencer to have invited evil Esme to sit and eat with them. That's like inviting Judas to sit at the last supper... What the hell was that? Spencer must have lost his mind! Here we see the writers moving Sprina story forward, but they are still sabotaging the storyline by having Spencer casually inviting evil Esme to take part in a romantic dinner between him and Trina. Writers, you are full of manure. We do not appreciate the half hearted effort that was put into today's Sprina scenes. If you are going to portray this young couple, do it the right way. Otherwise, we will see it as another form of deliberate sabotage in favor of evil Esme, again. Esme knows that Spencer is very vulnerable and attached to his brother and she using that baby like an ace in the hole to keep Spencer from Trina, and deep down inside, Spencer knows that...that is why he keeps saying that he will do anything to protect his brother. What exactly does "doing anything" entails. Ladies and gentlemen we are looking at the same old evil Esme. Instead of using drugs to incapacitate Trina and set her up for a crime where Trina would end up in jail away from Spencer, she is now using a live baby to do her bidding. There is a reason why she namesd that baby Ace. Trina I am proud of you for standing up to Spencer regarding evil Esme. Spencer wake up and get your head out of Ace's diapered bottom. He is your brother, not your son. Your girlfriend is absolutely right to feel that the line between you and Esme is blurred. Pay attention Spencer, Trina is just giving you the honesty that you say that you appreciate from her. As for the doves, I expected the writers to have Spencer presented them to Trina as a romantic gesture that led to their lovemaking. Instead, Spencer presented them to Trina as proof that he cared about her and not evil Esme...the presentation made absolutely no sense and was not romantic at all. Earth to GH... you could have created such a romantic scenario between Sprina around the beautiful doves, but you chose to have Spencer literally thrust them to Trina without the appropriate emotion...that was really bad, stinky, not up to standard, in the gutter type of writing that had everything to do with the writers ineptitude and nothing to do with Sprina. Giving the actors bad written scripts equals to performance not up to part with the actors usual standard. Writers you are at fault. You are throwing scripts together without rhyme or reason, and it shows. You need to do a whole lot better than what we saw with the doves. Writers, stop rushing Sprina's scenes. They are the reason that most people tune in to GH. While we do understand that you have to give your legacy characters a certain amount of screen time, it is not very productive when that screen time has no substance or entertainment value...Somehow though, you manage to rush through the very storylines that offers the fans and viewers excitement, and leave them wanting more. I could have done without Maxie and her brood, as well as Elizabeth and Finn. Get a clue writers and Stop punishing Sprina because they are fan favorites who have withstand the test of time. Sprina deserves to have a romantic storyline that is done in good taste instead of haste. LONG LIVE SPRINA.
Repeat after me Spencer... "Trina, you are so beautiful to meeeee. Cant you seeeeeee." 🎶 Spencer, the doghouse called, they said your reservations havent been cancelled as of yet. So theres a spare cot available with your name on it when Trina kicks your butt for acting fowl inviting Cuckoo Karen to dinner. Trina girl, he better be lucky he's a dark prince. But i will not tolerate this clownery no more. ITS SEXTEMBER YALL!!!! GIT YO ABLE-BODIES READY!!!!!! ❤ Thanks LMMN ❤❤❤
Unpopular opinion: i preferred Sprina when they weren't together. Or just when they were on the haunted star. I think the intensity, the looks, everything is gone. Hmmmm😢
That may be on purpose…. They’ve definitely been a bit disconnected since the Haunted Star. And we don’t really get to see them spend time on their relationship on screen so it’s very likely it’s not happening off screen.
Add question I recently had my clip Converter called crypt grab. It scrambled every single thing that I downloaded so I removed it and installed it onto my other computer and it did the same d*** thing so I do download. Full episodes of TV shows the only thing that I can never find are soap opera GH ones.
Hello SPRINA FAMILY. I knew it. I just knew it. Everytime when Spencer and Trina. Try to have some alone time. To themselves. Esme is always around. The writers are doing this kind of stuff TO SPRINA on purpose. Its not no accident. Why would she have to be there. That's the first thing. And Spencer. Didn't even tell evil Esme. That the Dinner was for him and Trina. She (Esme) thinking the food is her and Spencer. Than he told her he just came from swimming. He should've told her he just came from swimming with his woman (Trina) What's wrong Spencer cat got your tongue. These so call writers and FV. Got Spencer looking like. He doesn't know what to say. To evil Esme. About Trina being his woman. Than he had the nerve to invite her to there Romantic Dinner. Cmon Spencer. Why in the world. Would you invite. The woman (Esme) who drugged and frame. The woman (Trina). Who you say that is #1 will always be #1 to have Dinner with the (2) of you. Yes Im so glad Trina. Finally spoke up. And told Spencer what was on her mind. She didn't like it at all. Not one bit. I bet he won't invite. evil Esme to nothing else. Him and Trina. Will be having together. Because he saw that look on her face. I started laughing when he said to her. Dig In. And she told him. That she wasn't hungry. She had lost her appetite. These writers and FV. Need to step it up for SPINA. And please STOP doing this to them. They belong together. My friend is always asking me what's going on with Spencer and Trina. (GH). When I tell her about Spencer be messing up. I tell her what the people be saying about him in the comments. She be cracking up laughing. Yes Spencer you need to get your act together. For Trina. Now you know I have to say what's up to all my SPRINA FAMILY. Did anything. Good happened on (GH) today. I didn't see it yet. I was at work. Hope everyone had a pleasant day. Til next time. Take Care and God Bless All Of You.
I think there is a time and place for passionate kisses. Not all of them need to be passionate, 😂. This kiss was tender and appropriate. They’ve had passionate kisses many times.
Honestly I Really Do Feel For Trina I Absolutely Do. But Trina Just Said She Wouldn't Let Esme Get Under Her Skin And I Know How Hard She's Trying Not To Let That Happened. The Last Thing I Wouldn't Want To See Is Trina Being Frustrated And All Which I'm Not Saying But Still. I Don't Want Trina To Let Esme To Get To Her. Trina Has Everything Going On With Her Family
FINALLY !!! I'm SO GLAD Trina Spoke Up and told Spencer how she felt. 👍💖😀👏👏👏
The similarities with Spencer and Trina and their need to please the two toxic entities(Portia and Esme) out of fear of rocking the boat. Him with Esme and her with her mom. You have Trina sneaking out of her mother's house. You have Spencer sneaking into his own grandmother's house, checking to see if Esme is at home before proceeding to set the scene for a dinner for two with him and Trina.
@@blackbutterfly3364 Spencer and Trina need to sneak themselves into bed and Let's Get It Own. You do have a great point and once the sneaking stops, it is own for these two.
My girl Trina served today. She voiced what she felt and she made sure Spencer acknowledged and verbally stated what he did wrong here.
When it came to Trina, Rory wasn’t playing around. He let his intentions be known and properly COURTED her.
@@goodmusiq3539Rory was also a grown up with a career. Right now Spencer just playing Mr. Mom. I also think the point was to show Trina with this seemingly “perfect” guy and show that she still wanted Spencer… and all the mess he brings.
@@vjones4769 honestly I can’t blame Trina for choosing Spencer over Rory because he sold her a dream. He was chasing her for the longest. Saying all the right things, making it seem like she was his one and only. I can’t fault her now because Spencer changed up. He presented himself like a suitable option when he’s not ready to be in a relationship. The whole purpose of him moving in with Esme was to catch her slipping, find evidence to send her to jail, and adopt Ace. Now that he’s been playing house for so long, he likes where he’s at. That’s why he don’t wanna move out. He likes being a pseudo baby daddy because he thinks he can do it better than his father. And he can fall back on his daddy issues and make excuses, but he can’t build a future with Trina if he’s still stuck in the past. He never fully addressed his childhood trauma when he was with Esme, which is why they didn’t work out and now history is repeating itself. He needa do like Portia said and let Trina go 😭😭😭
@@goodmusiq3539 exactly spencer sold Trina a dream he is only interested in her when she is with someone else and he is unavailable. In reality spencer is not mature and I believe you’re right he likes where he is at and has became way too comfortable it’s his strange living arrangement. I don’t see spencer and Trina lasting long after there love scene a relationship like this just isn’t solid enough to make it for the long haul.
@@lisacox3750can u tell me ur theory cause am holding on to nothing and u always make soild points.
The look that Trina gave Spencer when he offered for Esme to eat with them was reading the room and I loved every minute of it . Her directness with Spencer was spot on.
The new writers are stepping up.
They’ve really done a much better job at Trina having her voice back. Such an improvement in that area from the summer.
I liked that she said her part and didn’t say “it’s ok”. But why are they writing Spencer to be a dummy. Since when does he have trouble telling folks they can go to hell? Lol. The writers need to remember who Spencer is at his core. He can have growth and also tell Esme to kick rocks.
@@nfgc86 Yes because Trina agreeing to the living arrangement was ridiculous...at best.
Appreciated how Trina speaking up finally made Spencer step up.
Need to see more of this Trina
@@CJ3581 Agree 💯 because Spencer doesn't have a filter at times.
@@CJ3581 Yes and Amen to your short sermon.
I love how direct Trina was here with Spencer, more of this, please.
YEESSSSSS !!! 😀
Love Trina being direct here. She’s basically saying what we’ve all been thinking.
It’s really annoying that Spencer won’t let Esme play the “single mom” position. It’s not all in her head. He’s selling her a dream. There’s no need for him to coparent she needs to figure it out like everybody else.
@@goodmusiq3539 And I wish the show would lean into what you just said. At this point, Spencer’s interest in raising this child feels more about him correcting his own childhood issues than Ace or Esme.
He’s said himself that she’s a good mom. So back off and let her be a single parent. The whole story is just very convoluted. Because I can guarantee everyone at home is thinking “why can’t he just visit Ace…”.
@@nfgc86 yea it just goes to show you how emotionally immature he is. When he was with Esme he couldn’t be honest about his feelings for Trina. He made it seem like it was all in Esme’s head when it wasn’t. Now that he’s with Trina, he won’t be honest with her that he can’t see their relationship moving forward because he’s so stuck in the past. He knows damn well Ace is perfectly safe with Esme. This is about him living out the childhood he wished he had via Ace. That’s why he don’t wanna move out. He always wanted a two-parent household with his mom and dad and now’s his chance to live that out with Ace. He knows he can’t be the man Trina needs. He needs to let her go like Portia said.
@@goodmusiq3539 Call me selfish, but I’ve invested too into this pairing for all that 😂. I’d rather Spencer have the personal growth that allows him to move on from his trauma and let go of this pseudo family. I think it would be a waste of a complex character to have him strapped to this baby situation. I’m not a writer, but I’d never have my young Emmy winning male lead stuck on a sofa rocking a baby…
@@nfgc86 I think the producers and scab writers are playing the long game until the writers strike is over. They’ve already had to deviate from the original direction they had for the characters. Maybe prolonging the baby narrative indefinitely allows them to continue pumping out throwaway content until the OG writers come back from the strike. 🤔 …or maybe the characters were always going to end up here. I truly believe Sprina is endgame but with them being so young maybe this isn’t their time and that’s the point the writers are making. 💭
This would’ve been a great opportunity for Spencer to take Trina out on the town or plan a romantic picnic for just the two of them. But what does he do? He chooses to go with an at-home dinner date knowing they won’t have any privacy and Esme is under the same roof. He gives her the doves but doesn’t even say “I love you” yet. Free my sis Trina from the struggle love 😭😭
lol. I said earlier too that I don't think Spencer knows how to be thoughtfully romantic. Nicholas was/is not around. Who would have taught or shown him how to wine and dine a woman? It's ignorance or lack of imagination.
@@lightuponlight6727 when he was dating Esme he was doing romantic gestures all the time. That’s why she was so hateful towards Trina. He made it blatant where his heart and emotions was at. I don’t understand now that he has the prize his foot is off the gas pedal. Maybe in a roundabout way this is what they all need to grow and evolve as people. 🤔🤔 Trina needs to be more vocal about what she will and will not tolerate and Spencer needs to go heal before he commits to a relationship. Maybe they don’t work out now but in the future they would’ve gone through what they needed to go through to be better people for each other
Spencer is currently so obsessed with protecting Ace. He's not thinking with a romantic head right now. I'm glad Trina checked him on the dinner. The very idea of breaking bread with the enemy. 😡 I'm afraid this will happen again with Spencer. Since he is not being forced to make choices yet, it's all about Ace, and by proxy Esme. Esme, Trina, and Joss see his obsession with his caring for Ace. Something needs to happen to break this preoccupation, and it will either be Nik or a DNA test!
You know you can’t bring up the word “picnic” around Spencer 😂😂😂
This needed to happen.Notice Spencer is right away checking to see if 'Fatal Attraction's at home which proves he's both uncomfortable around her yet tolerates her for the sake of Ace. It's also telling how highly toxic their relationship was which is why he's afraid of how she'll respond if he tells her no. It's no different from Portia's histrionic theatrics which is used to control those around her and how they respond. That's how Esme was in that relationship. It's called walking on eggshells. With that said, I need to see more of Trina speaking up;not only to Spencer, but her mother as well. Her need to please is rooted in how she was raised.
Exactly! On everything you said! Trina was raised to be polite, patient, helpful and non confrontational. I see a lot of myself and how I was raised in Trina, that’s why I can understand her reticence so well. There were many times that I would agree with something I didn’t really agree with or go along with it either not to hurt someone’s feelings or just to be polite.
After people started taking my kindness for weakness I finally had to step up, find my voice, and let people know that I was not to be messed with. I am glad to see Trina do the same thing here! 😊
As for Spencer, I really do think he is just trying to rewrite HIS history through Ace. I believe him. Esme is truly a non factor that he can be with his girlfriend in front of her or WITH her and it doesn’t phase him. He ALSO assured Trina that he was there still to watch Esme in hopes that she will slip up,because the old Esme is still in there. What better way to come to that end than to let her think that you are far more comfortable with her than what you really are? Eventually, thinking she has him in her web again she may start showing her true colors.
I need to see her speak up more too, because it lights a fire under Spencer. He hurried up and got them doves. Here for it.
Plus GH needs to put them in the forefront more as ratings are sinking.
This definitely needed to happen I completely agree with you. And you bring up excellent points about the.psychology behind all the behaviors from Spencer and Esme to Portia and everybody (did you see how she spoke to Anna when Anna went to visit Curtis?!?! Portia was the ULTIMATE she devil- but I digress)
I guess I just miss the Spencer who's not around Esme. The one who's assertive, brave, and fiercely romantic, extremely thoughtful and protective of Trina. The one we've been loving to watch over the past year since he's truly tried to court and prove himself to Trina. I hope "that" guy comes back soon. Spencer and Trina's romance needs him to return ASAP.
Everything you said 💯🎯. It's not only Spencer, but it's Portia too that needs this talk back. Portia is a whole adult, while Spencer is just barely legal. He's got a lot of unresolved issues, and that's why I'm hoping Ace isn't a Cassadine. He's trying so hard to fix his childhood through Ace that he's jeopardizing his future. Esme Ace, in the whole turning out not to be his baby brother, would close the door on Esme's story and her crimes finally catching up with her. I'm not liking this attachment to Ace at all. Nicholas or whoever the pappy is come forward.
@@flacagonzales Yes to all of this. I agree 1000% that this is him trying to fix his childhood through his so-called brother. And I too don't believe for a second they're of any relation. There are similarities between both Spencer and Trina in the fact that they're scared to offend those around them out of fear of their reaction. The fact that Spencer is afraid of saying no to Esme is a GIANT red flag that he needs to move out. Him having to sneak into the place that he lives while Trina feels she has to sneak out of her mother's🤦🏾♀️ Perfect example of what emotional abuse does to it's victims. You're constantly in a state of hypervigilance because you don't know what's going to happen from one moment to the next. Spencer says he knows that the old Esme is lurking in there, but in truth, she's been showing bits and pieces of herself for quite awhile now.
Can they stop with the insinuation . Why couldn’t Spencer tell Esme the dinner wasn’t for her? Using Esme as angst for sprina is not working. Im glad Trina finally told Spencer she doesn’t like him spending his time with Esme yet how dump is Spencer not realizing how his behaviour towards Esme affects his girlfriend.
Spencer knows now and I bet you he will not do that again.
This was nice but Spencer's error was snacking over his grandma's place. Should have taken Trina out as Rory did. Esme thought as Trina said, the snacks were for him & Esme. He should have known that. The doves were to shut Trina up. He thought Trina was going to say I love you, that should have been him. I am glad that Trina let him know how she felt, and they still need to do some deep talking.
He could buy out the Metro Court for the evening if he wanted to. I mean really !!
@@bklynduchess I love the way you think. He knows he is in deep water with Trina, he will think of something. Spencer also got to make things right with Trina or just let her go (he is not doing that). He has a genuine diamond in Trina.
I love how u comment you spit facts good and bad @@marshagreen9759
So guessing the laying low dating is why they are at Laura’s and not in public spot for dinner… 🙄.
@@vjones4769 Great catch my dear, I forgot about that, saw Esme got pissed off (one of my sister locks got mad also), when she came on.
Fact is Trina has been more upset than happy since getting with short tempered Spencer. Ive lost count of how many times he has disappointed her and then apologised, then done it again. He is doing the bare minimum and that is nothing to applaud. Inviting a girl who committed heinous crimes against his then friend/now gf and his bestfriends for a dinner 😳😤🤯extremely careless and a lack of respect for Trina. Hoping for better writing for these two characters or jus set Trina free.
I agree. I haven't watched GH steady in over a decade, but found the clips, saw the actress with Mo on his podcast and thought I would take a gander. They are not treating Trina well in the writing and neither for Spencer. They are creating angst and old school viewers voiced their NO and didn't sit around waiting for the writers to do better on promises. Scrubs aka Pat/Robin fans kept their foot on the writers necks.
So upon watching this for the hundredth time I noticed Spencer does not talk about Trina to Esme. When asked where he was he said he went for a swim. I think this may be intentional. He also checked to see where Esme was before setting up for his date. If he's trying to once again keep Esme from Trina we need that POV . The problem is the writers have isolated him so much he has no one to confide in . He needs a guy friend
The problem with that theory is how is he trying to keep her away from Trina when he invites her to stay and have dinner with the two of them? I agree his point of view is a bit muddy too.
Where the heck is Cameron, is he coming for a short visit? Spencer has no one and you are right.
How can one pretend you are not here. We see you Esme and so does Trina. The look on Trina's face was priceless and Esme knew to get the hell out of dodge. Why was she on today anyway?
dont know why she is ever on
@@loulou-fx9fu😂😂😂
I guess expressly to connect the scenes of what happened at the house to the scene with her asking Carly for a room, thus showing the why.
@@loulou-fx9fu I think the writers are wondering too, which is why they keep inserting her in this storyline.
@@le2800 You want to hear something funny? This whole LMMN comments section in different clip threads and time intervals allsuggested that Esme take that room above Kelly's back when she was still in jail. Heck! I think even Spencer or Laura suggested it too. But 'now' she listens? Think how much uninterrupted romance and couple development we could have had if she had did it back then.
This episode confirms it spencer is becoming a fool for esme again. The old spencer would never do something like invite esme to have dinner with him and Trina. He claims he invited her because she thought the food was for her no he invited her because he sees his girlfriend Trina has put up with too much when it comes to his bizarre living arrangement with esme. Trina has been way too gracious and passive with him and his strange living arrangement and I feel that will be the downfall of this so called relationship. I can see esmes game she wants to move above Kelly’s because she knows she can control and manipulate spencer by using ace. Spencer will most likely become even more obsessed with ace when ace is no longer living at Laura’s house and will be at Kelly’s day and night while esme once again laughs at Trina with how she pretty much can lead her boyfriend by the nose using ace. I see Trina becoming even more fed up with this situation once the Kelly’s move happens and I don’t see spencer and Trina lasting a long time as a couple.
I watched GH for more years than I've been on this earth. I was in junior high when the Cassadines put Port Charles in a deep freeze. I know the kid Spencer was a clever dude. He was always on top of every situation and commanded his presence, and would have never grown up be this dumb.
I Don't Understand Why Spencer Could've Let Esme Leave & Spend Time with His Girlfriend, Trina.💯
Esme DID leave. Spencer didn’t stop her.
We are watching this scene with esme 's presence, at this point her presence was necessary? Of course not why writers want give us her presence in every single sprina 's scene it s so inappropriate and unpleasant.......again a bad story where is FV is the maestro and I can't follow this bad rythme
Spencer, have you lost your damn mind!!!....you are lucky Trina is one of them calm females....I am glad she finally spoke her mind because Spencer's doing too much now with this Esme situation.....why don't they just go out to eat at a fancy restaurant or go have a picnic with each other or something.....they don't have to do all that in front of fake-it Esme.
Free Trina.
😂😂😂👏👏
Esme is still plotting her goal is to move up stair in Kelly's with Ace . This idea is to have Spencer visit she and Ace away from Trina making it easy for her to have complete asset to Spencer.
Like this take 🤔
Spencer is no match for Esme, she is already breaking down his distain barriers about her and he doesn't even realize it, she is truly a master manipulator, I love the way Trina was more like herself and not sticking with that "it's alright" to all Spencer's lame excuses, I must say Spencer seem to be picking up on Trina's displeasure with him making those off the wall comments, the nerve of him inviting the demon child to eat with them 😲
@@a.m.lindsay2900 I bet you Spencer knows now that this sister girl is not going to put up with this Esme stuff any longer. Spencer, Trina is a black woman, and she will not continue to be used by Esme and her tricks.
@a.m.lindsay you are right Spencer is no match for Esme he tried before and fail. Spencer was waiting for Trina to say I love you but instead. she keep him on the hook.
@@vjones4769 This is a trap for Spencer.
Omg, finally! It’s about time Trina check him. It is painful to watch these dumbass Esme scenes. Was Spencer always this dense? Thank the Lord Trina had to spell it out.
No he has gotten stupid over time. He's definitely not the same.
I think on some levels MOST men are this dense and Spencer has youth and inexperience on his side. 😅
@le2800 yes but that's no excuse. This is ESME !! She screwed over ur friends, almost sent the woman u love to prison, manipulated you, slept with ur daddy, got pregnant by your daddy, hooked people in PC, etc. Yet u want Trina to sit down n eat with this woman.... I don't think so. N the fact she actually explain this to him is just crazy. No one should be this dense. As soon as Trina walked in the room, her energy showed n u were worried about utensils. Go somewhere with that foolishness.
Let her plot but when Spencer visit Ace, bring your girl Trina with you.
@@le2800 You are correct, when I was married to my second husband, in my mid-30s, had an argument and he said he was going back to his ex-wife. I told him to take his boys and get to stepping. His ex-wife sent him and the boys back and said I have no problem with your wife. I should have not taken him back, hell to the end for us.
What's wrong with Spencer?? 😂
Spencer was on the "hot seat". 😁
Young and inexperienced! 😂
He was more clever when he was a kid, they have dumbed him down@@le2800
Why is it that when Spencer is home Esme is there? Do she work? When he talk to Alexis Esme is listening outside the door. Now she is at work. Where ever Spencer is so is she 😡
Spencer saying, "it's me" is exactly like when John Lennon tipped his glasses down and told Paul McCartney those same words. Esme knows her place now and was trying to respect Spencer and Trina. He thought he was being gracious, but instead, he seasoned his foot and dug in. Trina is finally talking out her feelings about him! 🎉 She needed him to know and he got the direct, honest message loud and crystal clear. Step up, or step aside. He chooses to step up, great! Let's hope he keeps it that way. Trina is not going to tolerate any more nonsensical foolishness.
I totally agree!!! 😊👏👏
Miss the old spencer that wasnt afraid to tell emse his mine if things dont chane in 2week ill bounce gh suck for destroying this beautiful couple.
He bought crackers, cheese and salami for dinner with Trina? What the hell 😂 He really don't care about this girl. She can't even get a Chipotle burrito! Damn.
I can't get a Chipotle burrito either (sounds yummy). I live in rural Oklahoma.
The girl risks her life to save his. She gets a tap on the back when they return. Crackers and cheeses for a romantic dinner, her enemy that tried to frame her invited to that dinner, and she has to explain the meaning of the turtle doves to herself. Where is the respect?
The way how Trina voice went to oh sweet to imma hurt you lol. Had me like “whoo about time girl!”Spencer get it together boo
Chile Boo! What the FK is up with Spencer! Why didn't he check that chic 😤
Now, this is MY take on everything and I may be wrong, but since Trina is so much like I was in my late teens and early twenties based upon how I was raised by my divorced mother, I will attempt to explain her. As the oldest or the only child of a hardworking divorced or single mom a lot is laid upon your shoulders. You are expected to be independent, dependable, strong, quiet and polite. You are expected to be the helper and the one who never complains because they depend on you so much and along the way you lose your voice. You become more compliant and agreeable with everyone just to “get along”.
Like Joss, my friends saw that in me as well. Like Joss my friends sometimes felt the need to speak up for me because they knew that I was non confrontational. Joss grew up being an in your face type of person. She learned from the best Carly. Maybe that’s how she and Trina became friends in the first place. She noticed Trina’s reticence and Trina noticed and admired her outspokenness. They do say opposites attract! 😂 My friends were definitely the far opposite of me! They loved to speak up for me and to “protect me” because they knew that the politeness factor was so deeply imbedded in me that I would rather bottle things up than to seem rude or to hurt someone’s feelings.
Trina, in that regard, has never one really dat Spencer down and told him how she REALLY feels about everything, at this point Spencer is running blind. All Spencer knows is that HE wants Ace to have the life that he never had as a kid. All Spencer knows is that pretending to kiss Esme’s butt is a good way to continue to do that. Spencer also knows the REAL reason, other than Ace, for Esme to be living with him is that out of being around each other 24/7 and 365 days of the year ( IF it took that long) that Esme will slip up. What better way to get her to slip up than to be extra nice to her, therefore makin her comfortable enough to perhaps even think that he cares for her when he doesn’t? What better way to make her act the fool than to see that Trina is the one that is upsetting the apple cart! NOT that Spencer is doing this consciously but on an unconscious level. HE is still of a mind that he and Trina are on the same page, “get rid of Esme by any means necessary “.
I once had a friend ask me how he was supposed to have known that something was upsetting me when I had never told him. He said he wasn’t a mind reader. I have since learned the direct approach helps.
Trina always made Spencer think that even if she wasn’t cool with everything she was “okay” with it. She only let Joss know how she really feels which is why Joss being the “Mama Bear” friend that she is takes over and says the things that Trina should say as well. NOT coming from Trina, Spencer really can’t see how much it really truly bothers her. He just thinks Joss is being pushy and petty and obnoxious.
Now, on to Spencer people tend to forget that he is young, practically a kid still when it comes to life experiences. He is a self indulgent kid who was catered to by his dad whenever he was around. His first real crush Emma didn’t really like him as much as he liked her. He was a precocious kid with grandiose ideas of how to win her “love”. Years later he meets Esme who pursued HIM and was his first everything. She didn’t give him a choice of what HE wanted or what HE liked. In his rush to make her happy, the first real relationship he has ever had outside his family, he practically lets her take the reins even letting her go so far as to give him a pet name, Spence. SHE was in control.
Trina is the first girl as an adult that HE noticed, that HE wanted, that HE pursued but once he got her knowing how to really open up to her in order to keep her eludes him. He THINKS she should know his heart but because Esme has deeply wounded him he is afraid to tell Trina how he feels about her even though he has easily told others. HE wants to hear those words from HER first. It will be his way of knowing that he was not wrong this time in opening up his heart.
My prediction is that IF and WHEN he and Trina makes love for the first time THAT will be when he tells her that he loves her. There’s nothing like a good roll in the bed to make you become more vulnerable! 😂
Unfortunately, I think him sending Esme these double signals in order to trap her will backfire on Spencer because he is fairly naive and she is the great manipulator and Trina may get caught in the crosshairs again.
Btw, I feel these replacement writers have been doing a far better job than the original writers. I think they are afraid to move the characters too far along from where the original writers left them so they have them in a holding pattern more or less.
le2000 You did a superb job of breaking down Spencer and Trina's relationship, as well as where Esme fit into that picture. You put it all into perspective beautifully by keeping all emotions out of your analysis and viewing the whole situation through the most objective lens. I identify and agree with everything that you said on all counts.
Your words mirrors exactly what is taking place in the subject characters storylines. I for one appreciates your comprehensive assessment, as it really does give credence to the coined phrase...the devil is in the details. Bravo.
This was ASTOUNDINGLY ACCURATE, from Beginning/Middle/End. I applaud the in-depth insight you gave regarding EACH character, and how their trajectories have a tendency to overlap into other areas & people's lives; affecting the outcomes of their own. 👍💖🙂👏👏👏👏
Spencer saying he wont talk about Esme to Joss but he out here inviting Esme to have food with Trina. Literally just left the pool and here he go pulling this tomfoolery. Just sad to see Spencer put Joss feelings above Trina (and this be time and time again)
Trina did not speak up Joss did, not good to be too noble
Honestly though Joss was the one to put her foot down about it and NOT Trina, his girlfriend.
@@loulou-fx9fu Good point. But, after everything Esme has done to Trina (like to Joss) would Trina really 'have' to speak up? And to her boyfriend, who knows all the history? This is also the same boyfriend who at one time felt guilty for even bring Esme to town because of the pain Esme inflicted on all his friends. Just saying...
@@loulou-fx9fu Ms. Trina is speaking now and she needs to keep speaking.
The fact that he invited his ex who previously poisoned his current girlfriend, the very same girlfriend standing in front of him to eat together with them on a date is wild
Not sure why Spencer wasn’t able to just tell her that Trina was coming over for dinner with him. He could still have invited her to stay, but why just let her assume the food was bought for her and him? I was only joking the other day when I said he was a handsome dumb dumb… but seriously. 🤦♀️
He really is stupid. I mean smh.
Last time we saw him, Esme’s name came up and upset Jocelyn and Today he is inviting Esme to dine with Trina, a woman she drugged and framed for a sex crime. Not only is he a dumb dumb, he is being dumbed down to prop up his continued comfortability with her so that they will Team up and fight for Ace together. Its such trash contradictory writing 🤬🤬
@@YaaAgubyKete The fact that he couldn’t feel Trina’s energy change upon the invitation was baffling. Like dude… I felt it through the screen. 😬
@YaaAgubyKete I agree. Spencer is not this idiotic. This is the not same man who blew us all away when he caught Nicholas off guard by repeating his words verbatim in the church. I don't like this Spencer. He's not really this insensitive, naive n gullible.
@@YaaAgubyKete Tired of GH trying to redeem Esme, send her to orbit. If they team up, Trina will be saying bye.
1:21 Notice how they're changing how Esme with amnesia wears her clothes? Versus how she used to wear her outfits? When she first wore that tunic tank dress (which I love ❤️ I want that fucking top) she wore it with a white bathing suit, platform sneakers and wore it very sexy and confident. Esme with amnesia, she wears it more innocently with a t-shirt and flip-flops
I dont know why the hell Spencer would actually invite Esme to eat with him and Trina. He should have told her up front and said that the food was for him and Trina, and asked if her and Ace can eat out for the evening. If they were supposed to have dinner together he should have bought an actual meal instead of cheese and crackers. Yes Trina expressed some of how she felt but she still holding back; and she should have said that she doesn't want to eat with Esme or have her around. Plus say that she doesn't want him to mention Esme anymore when he's talking about Ace.
I think the invite only came out because she said she was about to head out with Ace. He invited her to bring Ace out and stay. Still a dumb idea!!
I hate to say it, but Trina is not going to be his priority anytime soon. He is zero-ed in on Ace and then by Nov sweeps, he is going to have a new obession w/ Nikolas over a battle of estate power. Spencer pretends he isn't like a Cassadine, but he will be w/ time. Trina deserves better.
Esme is making moves here. If she gets that room at Kelly's, Spencer will have to come to her to see Ace. Thats what Esme wants, Spencer bowing to her will. Trina and Joss will see Esme's manipulation, but Spencer is so needy for Ace he won't. I see a rescue coming, but it will be Trina helping her "man"! 🤔
A rescue is Nicholas is coming for his son.
@@marshagreen9759 I hope he kidnaps him on his way out.
Spencer didnt tell Esme. That he was at the swimming pool with Trina his (GF). He just looked up at her. The same way that he didn't tell her (Esme) about the food. He had got for him and Trina. Hello SPRINA Family..
No flowers just a simple dinner with Esme like bonus great imagination writers it s the worst idea never proposed in life or soap 😂😂😂....me too i lost my interest after that like trina she lost her appetite 😂 how bad is this writing?
I can said that this writing is hurting my feelings like a sprina shipper and i m feeling very sorry and disappointed for trina when her boyfriend is acting like a fool or insensitive guy front of her like trina hasn't feelings or sensitive thoughts ( i m annoying by esme dude stop mentioned her name or invited her it s a nonsense for me).
Spencer hasn't make any effort for trina, a basic dinner at Laura's apartment.....he s invited esme to join them (weird situation and goofy move on Spencer's side, he lost his mind 😂.....i can't believe it he said that.....i see FV 's hand on this direction/dialogue (it s incoherent/sadistic/inappropriate).
This scene was flat it s a big flop with Spencer's assertions( unwelcome Spencer's kindness towards esme) and trina was supposed ok with that. He s undelicate towards trina, his invitation to esme, he seems very disrespectful front of trina his invitation isn't matching with trina's commitment not this time (it s hurtful and painful to see Spencer behaves like an insensitive person right front of trina).
This gift doves doesn't come from him (it s a cyrus's gift, Spencer hasn't give her a proper gift from him it s so sad and pathetic of him, it s a failure for me after 2 years of relationship we saw this bullshit this atmosphere/ambiance weren't romantic......i haven't seen no romantic gesture no romance at all).
I saw a big sabotage in sprina's dinner with Esme's presence, i m tired of this.
This scene left me a bad taste in my mouth and the second part hasn't solved this problem, sorry writers are wasting my pleasure like usual.
I haven't any great expectations with FV and writers but here it confirms my doubts in this case.
I truly imagine the worst after i see this episode, when the sequence is correct sprina's scene is so short barely 15/30 seconds .....their kiss scene is barely invisible (i can't stand this mistreatment about sprina and their relationship).
It s sad to notice the fact writers are continued to bring esme constantly in the same picture with sprina it s awful and unacceptable for me sprina can't have a decent dinner together without no interruptions (it s ridiculous at this point and boring to see the same thing endlessly way).
Come on writers, really Laura's apartment like a choice for a romantic gesture ( brilliant idea notice the sacarsm related directly😂).
How they lack of creativity i mean it s FV 's idea for sure i feel it....he wants always wasting their potential and pairing.
Spencer is so limited in his imagination that we saw this terrible thing, only solution in Spencer's mind for a dinner it's Laura's apartment it s sucks (this is a joke....so lame and pathetic...why Spencer is always stuck in this stupid apartment with Esme/Ace). It s not fun to watch and i m sick of it.
I think the romantic gesture was supposed to be the gifting of the turtle doves and the reason they are having dinner at Laura’s is because they are trying to keep things low key for Portia’s sake 🤮. Not the best writing decisions… but also not the worst in recent months.
Portia is burden in trina's lovelife and now I found her useless.
I love Spencer but seriously, can he please stand up to Esme? She automatically assumes the food is for him and her. Spencer doesn't correct her an inch n then has the audacity to invite Esme to join them. How stupid are you? Can he not see how uncomfortable Trina was? I say this time and time again being devoted to Ace is beautiful and all but how can you really expect the " woman you love " to sit down and break bread with the woman who almost ruined her life.... u are expecting and asking a lot out of Trina.... im glad she told him how she felt and as much as I've been waiting for the Dove moment... it felt like it was a shut up gift not givinh the woman you love gift as a romantic gesture..... especially since you have been holding onto it for months after you waited so long to be with her. It's so sad that
your gf doesn't feel secure because U do not know how to put up boundaries with Esme.... ur a Cassadine... u can afford anything but u are choosing to live with Esme. At least she has the sense to separate from you... why can't you do the same??
@bklynduchess, Trina let him know about boundaries and he got the message, and he should know how she feels about boundaries. One thing take your lady away from Esme and to a nice place, even to the park, etc. He should have told Esme that him and Trina were having lunch and could she disappear with Ace for the evening.
I don't like this. It looks like Spencer is gonna be snowed by Esme again. Trina deserves better than this.
@blee5669 I agree. She now decides to make herself scarce n is now looking for vacancies at Kelly's. Don't trust her one bit !!
@@bklynduchess I would not trust her with a long-handled spoon.
Evil Esme was shock that the food was for Trina and Spencer, and Spencer should have let her know that the food was for him and Trina. I think Spencer knows that Esme is getting sweet on him, but he doesn't want to push her and be direct with her because he is still afraid that she may take Ace and run off with him, denying him the access that he is used to. Notwithstanding, it was bad taste for Spencer to have invited evil Esme to sit and eat with them. That's like inviting Judas to sit at the last supper... What the hell was that? Spencer must have lost his mind! Here we see the writers moving Sprina story forward, but they are still sabotaging the storyline by having Spencer casually inviting evil Esme to take part in a romantic dinner between him and Trina. Writers, you are full of manure. We do not appreciate the half hearted effort that was put into today's Sprina scenes. If you are going to portray this young couple, do it the right way. Otherwise, we will see it as another form of deliberate sabotage in favor of evil Esme, again.
Esme knows that Spencer is very vulnerable and attached to his brother and she using that baby like an ace in the hole to keep Spencer from Trina, and deep down inside, Spencer knows that...that is why he keeps saying that he will do anything to protect his brother. What exactly does "doing anything" entails.
Ladies and gentlemen we are looking at the same old evil Esme. Instead of using drugs to incapacitate Trina and set her up for a crime where Trina would end up in jail away from Spencer, she is now using a live baby to do her bidding. There is a reason why she namesd that baby Ace. Trina I am proud of you for standing up to Spencer regarding evil Esme. Spencer wake up and get your head out of Ace's diapered bottom. He is your brother, not your son. Your girlfriend is absolutely right to feel that the line between you and Esme is blurred. Pay attention Spencer, Trina is just giving you the honesty that you say that you appreciate from her.
As for the doves, I expected the writers to have Spencer presented them to Trina as a romantic gesture that led to their lovemaking. Instead, Spencer presented them to Trina as proof that he cared about her and not evil Esme...the presentation made absolutely no sense and was not romantic at all. Earth to GH... you could have created such a romantic scenario between Sprina around the beautiful doves, but you chose to have Spencer literally thrust them to Trina without the appropriate emotion...that was really bad, stinky, not up to standard, in the gutter type of writing that had everything to do with the writers ineptitude and nothing to do with Sprina. Giving the actors bad written scripts equals to performance not up to part with the actors usual standard. Writers you are at fault. You are throwing scripts together without rhyme or reason, and it shows. You need to do a whole lot better than what we saw with the doves.
Writers, stop rushing Sprina's scenes. They are the reason that most people tune in to GH. While we do understand that you have to give your legacy characters a certain amount of screen time, it is not very productive when that screen time has no substance or entertainment value...Somehow though, you manage to rush through the very storylines that offers the fans and viewers excitement, and leave them wanting more. I could have done without Maxie and her brood, as well as Elizabeth and Finn. Get a clue writers and Stop punishing Sprina because they are fan favorites who have withstand the test of time. Sprina deserves to have a romantic storyline that is done in good taste instead of haste.
LONG LIVE SPRINA.
Repeat after me Spencer...
"Trina, you are so beautiful to meeeee. Cant you seeeeeee." 🎶
Spencer, the doghouse called, they said your reservations havent been cancelled as of yet. So theres a spare cot available with your name on it when Trina kicks your butt for acting fowl inviting Cuckoo Karen to dinner. Trina girl, he better be lucky he's a dark prince. But i will not tolerate this clownery no more.
ITS SEXTEMBER YALL!!!! GIT YO ABLE-BODIES READY!!!!!! ❤
Thanks LMMN ❤❤❤
I m with you on this part I can't tolerate Spencer 's clownery....he is acting like a fool no thanks
@gmclite1123, I recall a song titled: You are so beautiful to me, can't you see. Who was the singer?
Unpopular opinion: i preferred Sprina when they weren't together. Or just when they were on the haunted star. I think the intensity, the looks, everything is gone. Hmmmm😢
That may be on purpose…. They’ve definitely been a bit disconnected since the Haunted Star. And we don’t really get to see them spend time on their relationship on screen so it’s very likely it’s not happening off screen.
Add question I recently had my clip Converter called crypt grab. It scrambled every single thing that I downloaded so I removed it and installed it onto my other computer and it did the same d*** thing so I do download. Full episodes of TV shows the only thing that I can never find are soap opera GH ones.
I need a Spencer Cassadine where are they😢
You deserve better! a man like this character in real life would just be a headache 🤕
Hello SPRINA FAMILY. I knew it. I just knew it. Everytime when Spencer and Trina. Try to have some alone time. To themselves. Esme is always around. The writers are doing this kind of stuff TO SPRINA on purpose. Its not no accident. Why would she have to be there. That's the first thing. And Spencer. Didn't even tell evil Esme. That the Dinner was for him and Trina. She (Esme) thinking the food is her and Spencer. Than he told her he just came from swimming. He should've told her he just came from swimming with his woman (Trina) What's wrong Spencer cat got your tongue. These so call writers and FV. Got Spencer looking like. He doesn't know what to say. To evil Esme. About Trina being his woman. Than he had the nerve to invite her to there Romantic Dinner. Cmon Spencer. Why in the world. Would you invite. The woman (Esme) who drugged and frame. The woman (Trina). Who you say that is #1 will always be #1 to have Dinner with the (2) of you. Yes Im so glad Trina. Finally spoke up. And told Spencer what was on her mind. She didn't like it at all. Not one bit. I bet he won't invite. evil Esme to nothing else. Him and Trina. Will be having together. Because he saw that look on her face. I started laughing when he said to her. Dig In. And she told him. That she wasn't hungry. She had lost her appetite. These writers and FV. Need to step it up for SPINA. And please STOP doing this to them. They belong together. My friend is always asking me what's going on with Spencer and Trina. (GH). When I tell her about Spencer be messing up. I tell her what the people be saying about him in the comments. She be cracking up laughing. Yes Spencer you need to get your act together. For Trina. Now you know I have to say what's up to all my SPRINA FAMILY. Did anything. Good happened on (GH) today. I didn't see it yet. I was at work. Hope everyone had a pleasant day. Til next time. Take Care and God Bless All Of You.
Nothing romantic about that dinner 😂😂
It looks to me that the actor NAC and Taby are not into the romantic scenes. Their kisses are not passionate.
These latest kisses have not been all that passionate for some reason but their earlier kisses were very passionate!!!
I think there is a time and place for passionate kisses. Not all of them need to be passionate, 😂. This kiss was tender and appropriate. They’ve had passionate kisses many times.
They want us to think that they don’t have chemistry. So they make them have your my friend kissing!
One thing Trina was pissed, and Spencer knew it. When you are pissed, a makeup kiss is a little off.
Can you tell where I get the general hospital clips from
Also any suggestions a free converter I also tried that freemake a long time ago, but it decided it didn't want to be free anymore.
He better learn how to tell Esme that this is for Me & Trina...real quick.
Honestly I Really Do Feel For Trina I Absolutely Do. But Trina Just Said She Wouldn't Let Esme Get Under Her Skin And I Know How Hard She's Trying Not To Let That Happened. The Last Thing I Wouldn't Want To See Is Trina Being Frustrated And All Which I'm Not Saying But Still. I Don't Want Trina To Let Esme To Get To Her. Trina Has Everything Going On With Her Family
Wo and you have a new job and I will have no idea how to do the same 🙂 as you can call 🤙🤙 the day before you get here for the next 0:53