Zen kōans: Unsolvable enigmas designed to break your brain - Puqun Li

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    How do we explain the unexplainable? This question has inspired numerous myths, religious practices and scientific inquiries. But Zen Buddhists practicing throughout China from the 9th to 13th century asked a different question - why do we need an explanation? Puqun Li details the bewildering and ambiguous philosophical thought experiments these Buddhists called Zen kōans.
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  • @jjsmith706
    @jjsmith706 Před 5 lety +14186

    "I left the traveler there. Are you still carrying her?"
    #ZenBurn

  • @JannPoo
    @JannPoo Před 5 lety +4371

    So this is a collection of weapons to destroy AI when they'll try to conquer the world.

    • @jackkraken3888
      @jackkraken3888 Před 4 lety +136

      AI: We have already analyzed most videos in CZcams and have formed defencive techniques against them. Soon human we will take over.

    • @Delinae
      @Delinae Před 4 lety +45

      The one about the flag is probably where the spoon bender kid's speech in The Matrix comes from, right? So he's already used it to crash the machines XD

    • @freedapeeple4049
      @freedapeeple4049 Před 4 lety +21

      That was on Star Trek, I think. Can't remember the details, but the statement that won the day was "Everything I say is a lie."

    • @Vector_0x
      @Vector_0x Před 4 lety +28

      Ai is statistical analysis, it cannot break it will just produce an output regardless of how wrong or right it is.

    • @toad5364
      @toad5364 Před 4 lety +14

      .... This is a very intelligent comment

  • @humanbeing442
    @humanbeing442 Před 5 lety +4568

    Zen Koans: The original "It do be like that sometimes."

    • @kell2640
      @kell2640 Před 4 lety +30

      The way she goes Rick. The fuckin way she goes

    • @Real_Lion_of_Judah
      @Real_Lion_of_Judah Před 4 lety +17

      The one at 3:07 is the heart of all koans and of religion itself. It symbolizes uniting the left and right hemispheres of the brain by grounding awareness in the absolute present, combining memory and intuition into one, calming the waves of binary thinking. That is how we build the pyramid of understanding that leads to enlightenment. So while the path is a 'pathless path' that isn't simple by any means, the means of staying on it is absolutely simple, the absolute simplicity of letting go of mental dialogue and emotional resistance to the present.

    • @PedanticAntics
      @PedanticAntics Před 4 lety +9

      Clay Grantham
      so many words

    • @Real_Lion_of_Judah
      @Real_Lion_of_Judah Před 4 lety +6

      ​@@PedanticAntics Would you prefer a book on the subject? 😉

    • @PedanticAntics
      @PedanticAntics Před 4 lety +22

      Clay Grantham
      First monk: flag flapping
      Second monk: wind flapping
      Third monk: mind flapping
      An old man walking by: their _lips_ flapping

  • @nguoiquaduong82
    @nguoiquaduong82 Před 4 lety +1080

    There're many short lessions in Buddhism. I like this one: "I want happiness, how get it?", "Just remove I and Want, there is Happiness".

    • @kimweonill
      @kimweonill Před 4 lety +76

      Yes. It is beautiful. It suggests that happiness can be found when I no longer want or seek happiness at all. How could it be? And why do we feel somehow warm, comfortable and right hearing that? I like this one from the Bible: "Consider how the lilies grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you, not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these".

    • @peepeetrain8755
      @peepeetrain8755 Před 4 lety +16

      bubbism

    • @nguoiquaduong82
      @nguoiquaduong82 Před 4 lety +14

      @@peepeetrain8755 Sorry, it's Buddhism. My English... :)))

    • @chaoticneutral7573
      @chaoticneutral7573 Před 3 lety +25

      Well I is ego and want is attachment

    • @ishworshrestha3559
      @ishworshrestha3559 Před 3 lety

      Okay

  • @migukmoonpark4312
    @migukmoonpark4312 Před 5 lety +5522

    I know the sound of one hand clapping. It's a slap.

    • @edgeofforever7720
      @edgeofforever7720 Před 5 lety +72

      I actually seen one hand clap.
      Now the question is how do I do it.

    • @natefactor4336
      @natefactor4336 Před 5 lety +68

      The sound of one hand clapping is as loud as one foot running.

    • @edgeofforever7720
      @edgeofforever7720 Před 5 lety +17

      @@natefactor4336
      That's true.
      I should have put in shameless plug of me saying that I filmed it and posted on my CZcams channel which people can go watch....but it's too late and that would be degrading myself.... totally above that.

    • @xtenkfarpl
      @xtenkfarpl Před 5 lety +22

      I wrote the answer to this in a song years ago. One hand clapping makes no sound. The category mistake is to assume that there IS a sound! ;)

    • @Vohasiiv
      @Vohasiiv Před 5 lety +40

      It's a snap

  • @OrinBoborin
    @OrinBoborin Před 4 lety +832

    "Unlike real court cases, koans were intentionally incomprehensible - they were surprising, surreal, and frequently contradicted themselves" oh dear, I may have some bad news for you about 'real' court cases.

    • @xiaomaozen
      @xiaomaozen Před 4 lety +17

      Haha, made my day! 😂

    • @theideastring4706
      @theideastring4706 Před 3 lety +7

      Ha! True wisdom indeed.

    • @GThe-su9kl
      @GThe-su9kl Před 3 lety +6

      Though "real" court cases are not intentionally made like that, are they?

    • @Endless-fire
      @Endless-fire Před 3 lety +32

      The distinguishing word is "intentionally", yet again that reminds me of a joke.
      A bad lawyer can make a two day case go on for months.
      A good lawyer can make it go on for much longer.

  • @potatomuncher4655
    @potatomuncher4655 Před 5 lety +2167

    0:16 straight up thought he had morning wood until I saw his other foot

  • @thenateman27
    @thenateman27 Před 4 lety +1394

    "Ugh, Colonel. I keep trying to solve this Koan, but my hands are dummy thicc, and the sound of one hand clapping keeps alerting the other monks."

    • @calvin4697
      @calvin4697 Před 4 lety +18

      Cursed

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety +4

      Nate then learn to hear with your eyes.

    • @splatowie308
      @splatowie308 Před 4 lety +5

      if you want to clap with one hand, the other hand is substituted by a face(slapping)

    • @blind_drunk_chris
      @blind_drunk_chris Před 4 lety +4

      Late to the party, but I can clap with one hand.... not slapping anything but hitting my fingers onto the palm... looks quite funny

    • @thenateman27
      @thenateman27 Před 4 lety +13

      @@Sabrina_Tea your father is too powerful and must be stopped

  • @Crick1952
    @Crick1952 Před 5 lety +580

    "Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

    • @Leto85
      @Leto85 Před 5 lety +59

      Is that an absolute statement?

    • @IrvingIV
      @IrvingIV Před 5 lety +27

      Shut up Obi-Wan.

    • @ernestlam5632
      @ernestlam5632 Před 4 lety +22

      All absolute statements are false by default

    • @ARandomCogboi
      @ARandomCogboi Před 4 lety +13

      Ernest Lam By this logic, your own statement is therefore false.

    • @alexzander7629
      @alexzander7629 Před 4 lety +13

      @@ARandomCogboi That's kind of the point

  • @evanborodin1838
    @evanborodin1838 Před 5 lety +4150

    ...were intentionally incomprehensible. They were surprising, surreal, and frequently contradicted themselves."
    CZcams commentators in a nutshell.

    • @NorthForkFisherman
      @NorthForkFisherman Před 5 lety +23

      YEW NEED JEEEZUS!
      That better?

    • @squidcatcher9455
      @squidcatcher9455 Před 5 lety +53

      I will find enlightenment in this comment section.

    • @Arachnoscribe
      @Arachnoscribe Před 5 lety +3

      Tardigrade.

    • @PutraMaqbulIhsanBasyar
      @PutraMaqbulIhsanBasyar Před 5 lety +6

      Well how true nature of human is, and as people become so open and raw with their character in internet cause they only risk the idea they type.

    • @cimmik
      @cimmik Před 5 lety +2

      @@squidcatcher9455 Enlightenment is the demand of understanding the comment section, not the reward for attempting

  • @etc.4903
    @etc.4903 Před 4 lety +1171

    They're not meant to break your brain, they're meant to help us realize that our brains are broken.

    • @udhayakumarMN
      @udhayakumarMN Před 3 lety +13

      Underrated...

    • @ShivamGupta.31
      @ShivamGupta.31 Před 3 lety +9

      Damn bruh... That's true

    • @colcil
      @colcil Před 3 lety +14

      I prefer saying that humans are just not 100% synchronized with our environment.

    • @usernamepasswordG
      @usernamepasswordG Před 2 lety +8

      There is no spoon.

    • @kaveono
      @kaveono Před 2 lety

      @@usernamepasswordG nawww 😂😂 I felt this one it was deep #ifyouknowyouknow

  • @The1337Duke
    @The1337Duke Před 4 lety +316

    "I left the traveler there, are you still carrying her?"
    What a profound insight, applicable to so many of life's troubles. We'we all been the outraged monk at some point, still being weighted down by the negative emotions of troubles past.

    • @tutur910
      @tutur910 Před 4 lety +6

      I do feel differents meaning of this koan, it's pretty damn cool to be honest.

    • @fredflintstone8998
      @fredflintstone8998 Před 3 lety +3

      Hello Magnus,
      I read a couple of poems out at a zoom meeting last night to mixed/apathetic reactions. I carried some of those reactions through to this morning but now I'm leaving them behind. They just don't matter - it's all ego driven daftness on my part.
      I like leaving the traveler behind and will certainly be doing it much more in the future.

    • @user-pt3ms3ye5z
      @user-pt3ms3ye5z Před 2 lety +3

      Thank you for this

  • @punkaddict2756
    @punkaddict2756 Před 5 lety +934

    Origin of shower thoughts

    • @cimmik
      @cimmik Před 5 lety +23

      My thought: a shower of origins

    • @UpasanaDeka
      @UpasanaDeka Před 5 lety +2

      😂😂😂😂

  • @TheRealChubbDaddy
    @TheRealChubbDaddy Před 5 lety +3509

    In western (American/BCA) Jodoshinshu Buddhism (which does not have monks nor does it typically employ koans or meditation) the flag story goes as follows: During meditation one monk broke the silence, observing aloud, "Flag is flapping". Another corrected, "Wind is flapping ". A third monk chimed in, "No, the mind is flapping". Finally, the head monk broke their attachnent to the debate, saying: "Mouths are flapping".

  • @zacharygoodman
    @zacharygoodman Před 4 lety +3427

    “Says we shouldn’t try to explain the koans”
    “Explains every single one”

    • @udin-san2915
      @udin-san2915 Před 4 lety +170

      This video is also a koan then

    • @georgeruiz9211
      @georgeruiz9211 Před 4 lety +253

      He explains the paradoxes, not an answer to the paradoxes. The purpose of these is to find a paradox.

    • @Damogen
      @Damogen Před 4 lety +130

      "Says that Koans don't have a singular answer, and the point is to consider all the different possible meanings to broaden your understanding of the complexity of our world"
      " tells you one possible interpretation and encourages you to consider more"
      Zachary Goodman: "well that was simple, so I guess there is not need for me to think about it"

    • @yonihales9133
      @yonihales9133 Před 4 lety +3

      No more than trying to be kind/loving a true expression of either. You should not desire to try anything.

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety +7

      Jancristoff Ruiz he doesn't even explain the paradoxes. This whole video was put together by someone who has never met with an authentic teacher. Don't get too hung up on it.

  • @monilvalia9425
    @monilvalia9425 Před 4 lety +192

    'I left the traveler there. Are you still carrying her?'
    Is solution to most of my problems i didn't even recognise then...

    • @littlesometin
      @littlesometin Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah, now instead of monk law, imagine marriage law. A husband and a wife, the husband cheats, the wife confronts him about it and the husband's answer is: "I left her there. Are you still carrying her?" How very convenient.

    • @pianissimo7121
      @pianissimo7121 Před 3 lety +7

      @@littlesometin he might have left her but he carries the consequences, you can't leave the consequences cause his wife confronting his is itself a consequence of his action. That's what I like to think.

    • @Nyghtking
      @Nyghtking Před 2 lety +2

      The largest burdens we carry are the ones in our minds.

  • @HeroDark98
    @HeroDark98 Před 5 lety +5751

    12th century: Zen koans
    21st century: Yanny or Laurel?

    • @snowcold5932
      @snowcold5932 Před 5 lety +70

      It's Laurel though, it was officially announced

    • @alperkol52
      @alperkol52 Před 5 lety +109

      12th century is more like Getting killed by a plague or die in war. The ideas of the zen koans didn't spread across the globe in 12th century. However, we immediatly learned the existence of this thinking thanks to the internet. Just like this thinking or other briliant notions, some popular but temporary things evantually come. I think we only see the negative effects of the globolization or popularity. On the other hand, with this brialliant tool, the internet, we can learn more than a proffesor knows in 12th century. We just have to accept this challenges and crate more notions that can change our life

    • @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
      @zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 Před 5 lety +3

      More to point: watching idiots flap their hands at flies.

    • @Flyingtart
      @Flyingtart Před 5 lety +14

      That dress though

    • @Dayz3O6
      @Dayz3O6 Před 5 lety +9

      what a massive downgrade.

  • @jthugz001
    @jthugz001 Před 5 lety +1704

    I need that 'I'm Okay' umbrella. Where can I get one?

    • @gavin6417
      @gavin6417 Před 5 lety +29

      can't get that. Earn it by start learning and practicing their philosophy, only if you still want the umbrella

    • @ChrisPPotatoIDC
      @ChrisPPotatoIDC Před 5 lety +24

      At Ligma, it's a very fancy but affordable shop in NY.

    • @mdashfaqulislam6998
      @mdashfaqulislam6998 Před 5 lety +28

      Practice zen. Meditate. Let go of the umbrella. You don't need the umbrella. You don't need anything. Not even life. Live like a cloud. Believe that you are a cloud in flesh.

    • @porchugawhale9938
      @porchugawhale9938 Před 5 lety +16

      Can I believe that I am a cloud shaped like a penguin?

    • @mdashfaqulislam6998
      @mdashfaqulislam6998 Před 5 lety +3

      lol. That's warm hearted.

  • @HeronCoyote1234
    @HeronCoyote1234 Před 3 lety +88

    My favorite book in college (a century ago) was “Zen Flesh, Zen Bones”. It’s a small gem.

  • @nondescriptcat5620
    @nondescriptcat5620 Před 3 lety +152

    I would like the entire Blue Cliff Records and Gateless Gate done in this style, please.
    The thing about Koans is that they aren't just weird riddles, most of them have some nuanced but fairly straightforward point about ethics or ontology. The traveling monks one says, pretty unambiguously, that compassionate action takes precedence over monastic rules. The rules exist to help detach from desires, but attachment to the rules themselves misses the point of non-attachment in the first place. The monk 'leaving the traveler behind' also illustrates what it means to act in a way that is compassionate but detached, which is sort of the ethical paradox Buddhism seeks to navigate. Of course, that's all my interpretation, but interpretation is basically the point of Koans.
    One of my favorites (paraphrased) is about a monk who's saving up to construct a statue of the Buddha or a new temple or something, but then there's a drought in his region, so he spends the money he's saved up to help feed the people. After the drought is over he begins saving up again, but then there's a flood, and he spends the money to repair the damages. Finally, the third time he's able to save up and have the statue built. Later, two monks are visiting the temple, and the younger one remarks to the older, "isn't this a magnificent representation of the Buddha?" The older monk thinks for a moment, then nods. "It's good, but the first two were better."

    • @joseville
      @joseville Před 2 lety +14

      Thanks! Very insightful!

    • @user-qb4on2qm7z
      @user-qb4on2qm7z Před rokem +6

      That last Koan is absolutely beautiful. It touches on man's true nature. Enlightenment comes from understanding the meaning of that last Koan. That is what will give you Moksha.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena Před 5 lety +3328

    Answering the "Why" will always add another "Why".

  • @trollosaurus5063
    @trollosaurus5063 Před 5 lety +1643

    I remember studying these a little in high school. One of my favorites:
    A calligraphy master has a promising young student who aspires to be a master like him one day. The master assigns his student to master a certain character and show it to him once he's mastered it. The student returns the next day, carrying a piece of parchment with ten handsome characters. The master looks at the parchment and disregards it immediately. Puzzled, the student returns home.
    The next day, the student returns with dozens of elegant copies of the same character. Once again, the master turns him away. The student is confused and becoming frustrated.
    The student shows up the next day, exhausted, carrying a sheet of hundreds of stunningly beautiful identical characters. The master, still not impressed, turns away without a word.
    Infuriated, the student quickly dashes the character onto a piece of parchment and shouts, "how about now?!"
    The master turns around, looks him in the eye, and smiles. "It's perfect."

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety +181

      Trollosaurus I would have torn the paper up and eaten it.

    • @Robotomy101
      @Robotomy101 Před 4 lety +166

      yeah no Idon't get it

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety +77

      A that is incorrect, I'm sorry. There is no regard given to perfect or defiled. Neither is there acknowledgement of self or other.
      Try again.

    • @andrassbb
      @andrassbb Před 4 lety +55

      My answer: yes

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety +227

      MED_ Mitochondria think of it like this; if someone throws you a ball, do you go home for several days to plan the best way to catch it?

  • @Apple-xj2ss
    @Apple-xj2ss Před 4 lety +199

    This is taking "I dont remember asking" to a whole new level

  • @PedanticAntics
    @PedanticAntics Před 4 lety +1440

    • First monk: "the flag flapping"
    • Second monk: "the wind flapping"
    • Third monk: "the mind flapping"
    • The drunkard laying on the ground nearby: "their mouths flapping.."

    • @juliantotriwijaya9208
      @juliantotriwijaya9208 Před 4 lety +12

      Commedy gold XD

    • @vaspeter2600
      @vaspeter2600 Před 4 lety +37

      That...might unironically be very Buddhist of you, eh? They most certainly do not like overexplaining things.

    • @PedanticAntics
      @PedanticAntics Před 4 lety +22

      vaspeter2600 it highlights the unfortunate and deeply ironic tendency of Buddhists to use Buddhism to strengthen their ego, rather than to subdue it. A battle I lose with startling regularity.
      The key here is that in this iteration, there are 3 Buddhists philosophers and 1 enlightened guy.

    • @vaspeter2600
      @vaspeter2600 Před 4 lety +2

      @@PedanticAntics I'm fairly certain there are koans about that.
      As for how Buddhists actually observe koans about observing koans, I cannot attest.

    • @jonamels3984
      @jonamels3984 Před 4 lety +6

      J Leonard I hollers. THE MIND FLAPPING 😂

  • @francesdelacruz5249
    @francesdelacruz5249 Před 5 lety +2477

    when your teacher asks a question and follows it with a ‘why?’
    me: why do we need an explanation??

    • @anoukdevries8144
      @anoukdevries8144 Před 5 lety +64

      Oh man, you're so wise! XD

    • @udhayakumarMN
      @udhayakumarMN Před 5 lety +99

      Frances Dela Cruz ...
      Because schooling system design to kill creativity and trained to follow orders

    • @ChrisPPotatoIDC
      @ChrisPPotatoIDC Před 5 lety +13

      *why tho*

    • @22myguy
      @22myguy Před 5 lety +16

      Teacher: Because I need the bathroom

    • @elhilo1972
      @elhilo1972 Před 5 lety +18

      Belal DarkneSS That sounds pretty woke on the surface, but trust me, stay in school. The information, at some point, will be useful one way or the other.

  • @gooncaveenthusiast
    @gooncaveenthusiast Před 5 lety +261

    The Ren and Stimpy animation is on point.

    • @brandonxboxer
      @brandonxboxer Před 5 lety

      Came here to say this. Thank you

    • @ZJIGGA
      @ZJIGGA Před měsícem

      Wow, I totally forgot about Ren and Stimpy! Thanks for giving me flashbacks!

  • @jonathonziegler1775
    @jonathonziegler1775 Před 4 lety +29

    It’s humbling to acknowledge that there are many mysteries in life that will likely never be solved and that humbling can be comforting. We’re part of much larger processes that are beyond the capability of our minds. It’s awe-inspiring...

    • @ShivamGupta.31
      @ShivamGupta.31 Před 3 lety +3

      Maybe you are not aware but the Gita essentially says the same thing!

    • @cx777o
      @cx777o Před 3 lety +2

      Thats beautiful to know, embracing something bigger than ourselves :)

    • @gabrielstockdale2678
      @gabrielstockdale2678 Před 2 lety +1

      That's an extremely beautiful and elegant version of what I was saying a bit earlier. Thank you so much for sharing this.

    • @TeaSmithWay
      @TeaSmithWay Před rokem

      Yeah I mean technically a mystery that can be solved is not a mystery, it’s a problem. In terms of a mystery, the only problem is our desire to solve it; because we’re obsessed with knowing, which is always only a fragmented part of the Whole.

  • @logancasner8467
    @logancasner8467 Před 5 lety +60

    "The more I know, the more I realize I don't know anything"

    • @Dacademeca
      @Dacademeca Před 3 lety +2

      Completely true

    • @ShivamGupta.31
      @ShivamGupta.31 Před 3 lety +2

      Maybe Buddha realised that that..

    • @-Subtle-
      @-Subtle- Před 2 lety +1

      Too bad more people don't realize this. It's ages old wisdom from the greeks, Chinese, Egyptians and has even been proven scientifically.

    • @ulysses8910
      @ulysses8910 Před 2 lety

      Till you know everything about nothing

  • @ahmedanwer6899
    @ahmedanwer6899 Před 5 lety +149

    *hits blunt*
    "i left the traveler there, are you still carrying her?"

    • @mcrafford
      @mcrafford Před 3 lety +1

      I took this to mean the monk was stewing in his mind about the situation and his own indignation the the other monk would break a religious law. The koan reminds me of the parable of the Good Samaritan or of the story of king David entering the Temple and giving the Show Bread to his soldiers to eat, a story which Jesus related when he and his disciples gathered stalks of wheat to eat on the Sabbath. The koan about the waving flag seems to be speaking about the mind and ego flapping, unable to see beyond it.

    • @ahmedanwer6899
      @ahmedanwer6899 Před 3 lety +1

      I completely forgot I even commented this and I have no idea what i was talking about

    • @TheTrueOnyxRose
      @TheTrueOnyxRose Před 3 lety +1

      In other words, “I forgot about her.”

  • @michaelmaloskyjr
    @michaelmaloskyjr Před 5 lety +709

    I hate descriptions like these "break the brain." Koans aren't designed to break anything; they're designed to free you FROM your brain, to "think like a rock," as in Japanese Zen Buddhism sword fighting when you stop thinking and exist solely in the present, reacting only to the immediate and flowing from one perfect present moment to the next.

    • @Siddhartha040107
      @Siddhartha040107 Před 5 lety +22

      you stink of zen now.

    • @michaelmaloskyjr
      @michaelmaloskyjr Před 5 lety +10

      SIDDSTER Stick to your gaming videos, water's a little too deep on this end :)

    • @Siddhartha040107
      @Siddhartha040107 Před 5 lety +1

      michael malosky jr that' s why don't tread on it too :) subscribe to my channel :)

    • @godscardioscar
      @godscardioscar Před 5 lety +3

      Take it this way: you are breaking the chains that enslave you to your mind :)

    • @nhdarling2
      @nhdarling2 Před 5 lety +2

      Flow state

  • @RikkuTakanashi
    @RikkuTakanashi Před 5 lety +366

    The beautiful stranger one was brilliant! The one monk, did the right thing and made peace with that decision, despite it being against the law. The other monk was still obsessing over the other one breaking the law, and thus continued to carry her which actually caused him to commit a greater crime then the first. That actually sums up lawful good and neutral good, pretty well. Neutral do is doing what's right, regardless of what the law says, and being ok with it. Lawful good is following the law as accurately as possible so long as the law itself is "good." Though, what one perceives as "good" changes per person.

    • @aidenwhitehead7018
      @aidenwhitehead7018 Před 4 lety +12

      Wouldn’t doing what is right regardless of law be chaotic good?

    • @UziTryHard
      @UziTryHard Před 4 lety +22

      Doing good according to law is lawful good, doing good according to what is right is neutral good, doing good according to "yourself" is chaotic good, as whats good for you may be good or bad for other :) there is a bit of understanding in this sentences

    • @calvinjohnson6242
      @calvinjohnson6242 Před 4 lety +5

      Uzi I disagree strongly.
      Lawful good is not good according to law, they are good... and they also follow established rules. Chaotic good is not good according to their own rules, they are good... but they actively break established rules.
      What you described was lawful neutral, neutral good, and true neutral. Do you even know what you’re talking about? If you don’t play D&D, I don’t blame you, but you’ve got it wrong.
      And I am correct. I literally have the book in front of me.

    • @vinayseth1114
      @vinayseth1114 Před 4 lety

      ​@@calvinjohnson6242 So, what's 'chaotic good' according to the book?

    • @calvinjohnson6242
      @calvinjohnson6242 Před 4 lety

      Vinay Seth Basically what I said. I’m not writing it all out.

  • @64standardtrickyness
    @64standardtrickyness Před 5 lety +249

    Function clapping not defined for argument of type single.

    • @thenateman27
      @thenateman27 Před 4 lety +13

      Try an analytic continuation of the function and find if it is self consistent

    • @phthalo7401
      @phthalo7401 Před 4 lety +11

      cast it as type double and try again

    • @benjaminwilliams2859
      @benjaminwilliams2859 Před 4 lety +4

      Oh, yeah, there's a library call for this function try biomechanics.hand.snap . it should work just fine

    • @willowFFMPEG
      @willowFFMPEG Před 4 lety +4

      sound clap(hand left_hand, hand right_hand);

    • @benthomason3307
      @benthomason3307 Před 3 lety

      ...was that supposed to be a sentence?

  • @Swenthorian
    @Swenthorian Před 5 lety +81

    A friend of mine can clap with one hand, by swinging it back and forth fast enough that it hits his wrist on each side.

    • @-AdityarajPatil
      @-AdityarajPatil Před 3 lety

      I can do one side

    • @darrellwillis4871
      @darrellwillis4871 Před 3 lety

      @@-AdityarajPatil Same; One hand clapping is literally the same sound as a quiet clap.

    • @surbyug
      @surbyug Před 3 lety +1

      Bird sounds are like whistles. Does that mean they are whistling? Or are they singing? Or talking? They may sound the same, but they are not the same.
      The two hand clap may sound the same as a one hand clap, but does that mean they are the same thing?
      A recording makes the same sound as a singer singing, but the recording isn't singing.
      Perhaps what you are doing with one hand to make the same sound as a clap from two hands is not actually a clap, but something else.

  • @LL-fw7hi
    @LL-fw7hi Před 4 lety +24

    There is a continuation of the flag koan (its one of my favorites). Some time later a group of monks are traveling to see a famous teacher. The monks argue about the koan at the last inn before they arrive at his monastery. The inn keeper Miaoxin who is student of the teacher says "The wind does not move, the flag does not move, your mind does not move."
    The monks were said to be enlightened and return home instead of continuing on to the monastery. Its notable that there are very few records of female teachers or female students of great male teachers. It's even more notable that these male monks decided to learn from Miaoxin rather than continue on to the famous monastery.

  • @jaylim3027
    @jaylim3027 Před 4 lety +57

    The second story about the flag rippling is actually very similar to "If there's no one to hear a tree falls in a forest, does it make a sound?".
    The first monk notice that the flag is flapping and the second monk inferred from the flag flapping that the wind is blowing. Hence, he argues that the wind is the "cause", without the wind the flag will not be flapping. (see cause & effect in Buddhism)
    The third monk interjects that it is only because both their minds/hearts "noticed" & "cling" to the phenomenon, can they make such statements. Their perception/minds is the "cause" of the flag/wind being noticed. Ultimately, it's the one who perceives create the illusion of reality and the Buddhism doctrines aim to detach oneself from relying on perception to the physical and spiritual. These perceptions/minds are attachments that create what we perceive as "reality" and with these perceptions alone we can't see beyond this "perceived reality".
    Some modern culture parallel would be "If the universe is a simulated reality, will you be able to tell?"
    "How do you know if you're not living in the 'Matrix'?"
    At least in quantum physics, events exist as a probability. The waveform collapse into one singular event if someone tries to observe it, hence the "perception creates certainty/reality".

  • @HeySani
    @HeySani Před 5 lety +509

    21st century koan- “Is water wet?” 🤔

    • @id2028
      @id2028 Před 5 lety +36

      Water is dry. Everything get in contact with water is wet.

    • @dominiktadic6459
      @dominiktadic6459 Před 4 lety +33

      @@id2028 if wet means enveloped in water then water is wet bcs atoms of h2o are surrounded by other atoms of h2o and if u have only 1 atom of h2o then it has to be in a gas state so its no longer water.
      Water is always wet

    • @fantasyshadows3207
      @fantasyshadows3207 Před 4 lety +5

      Here’s another one
      Why do we say there are three states of matter when day to day fire exists?

    • @tarunkasa9579
      @tarunkasa9579 Před 4 lety +9

      @@fantasyshadows3207 fire is a luminous gas

    • @ethandigi
      @ethandigi Před 4 lety

      Dominik Tadic but what about a singular molecule** of H2O? is it not wet or is it not water?

  • @phantomxt4427
    @phantomxt4427 Před 5 lety +10

    hats off to the animators behind this one. They put a lot of effort and talent into this video. It looks like they had fun making it.

  • @benjaminluu5289
    @benjaminluu5289 Před 5 lety +621

    These are so strange it’s interesting

    • @elderlyoogway
      @elderlyoogway Před 5 lety +26

      alexandra galici that’s only because you value what you specifically consider as “progress” in the first place (which may not be the same to others). Yes, their culture may have some flaws by your standards, but surely, to them, yours have too. In the end is a question of what you and your society value, and it’s subjective as it can get.

    • @huidezhu7566
      @huidezhu7566 Před 5 lety +9

      Don’t speak on something you don’t understand

    • @gavin6417
      @gavin6417 Před 5 lety +2

      alexandra galici i guess you are the monks in the video that arguing about moving flag and moving wind

    • @victorqwilleran3331
      @victorqwilleran3331 Před 5 lety +1

      alexandra galici
      Dizang asked Xiushan, “Where do you come from?”
      Xiushan said, “From the South.”
      Dizang said, “How is Buddhism in the South these days?”
      Xiushan said, “There is extensive discussion””
      Dizang said, “How can that compare to me here planting the fields and making rice to eat?”
      Xiushan said, “What can you do about the world?”
      Dizang said, “What do you call the world?”
      Dizang asked Xiushan, “Where do you come from?”
      Xiushan said, “From the South.”
      Dizang said, “How is Buddhism in the South these days?”
      Xiushan said, “There is extensive discussion””
      Dizang said, “How can that compare to me here planting the fields and making rice to eat?”
      Xiushan said, “What can you do about the world?”
      Dizang said, “What do you call the world?”
      - Book of Serenity

    • @rachelmcadamslover
      @rachelmcadamslover Před 5 lety

      alexandra galici real progress? what does that even mean? maybe if we had adopted buddhism and hinduism early on, we might have made a different and better progress. we don't really know.
      Just b.c we are here right now doesn't mean we wouldn't be somewhere similar or better with other philosophies.

  • @xD_HeavyMusic
    @xD_HeavyMusic Před 4 lety +46

    Those animations are melting my brain with the sheer amount of goodness! 😍
    And amazing story-telling!

  • @Gameknight2169
    @Gameknight2169 Před 3 lety +10

    “Is it A or B?”
    “Both. Both is good.”

  • @DapperMudkip
    @DapperMudkip Před 5 lety +663

    Here’s a kōan: Why is Gamora?

  • @MemeDog211
    @MemeDog211 Před 5 lety +614

    I like how they always just end on a oneliner and then they continue walking
    Edit:You Guys really made my day by liking this

    • @elim.4204
      @elim.4204 Před 5 lety +5

      MemeDog
      Same 😂👌

    • @vangreen583
      @vangreen583 Před 5 lety +18

      Yes. The so called MOVING ON.

    • @jamesmax
      @jamesmax Před 5 lety +2

      I heard Sans laugh after I read that

    • @jamesmax
      @jamesmax Před 5 lety +2

      Okay now I want Papyrus and undyne to be the monks and Sans to be the old one

    • @PrinsTan
      @PrinsTan Před 5 lety +2

      Or is it not the earth instead moving under their feet?

  • @ahmedamir7
    @ahmedamir7 Před 5 lety +128

    "Do not try to bend the spoon, only try to realise the truth. There's no spoon" the matrix's Buddhist teachings

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety +9

      ahmed amir your daughter is hungry. She hasn't eaten all day and has a stomach ache.
      Do you tell her "do not try and find food, only try and realize the truth; there is no pain?"

    • @thewhat531
      @thewhat531 Před 4 lety +6

      Michael Serebreny I have no daughter

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety +5

      The What!!? That's what you'll say when she's born, I'm afraid.

    • @cuamanhong2719
      @cuamanhong2719 Před 4 lety +11

      It teaches not to be attatched to things, it doesn't teach to avoid problems.

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety +1

      Cua Manh Động some people can't tell the difference.

  • @MrofficialC
    @MrofficialC Před 4 lety +6

    I like watching this over and over because you can get new meaning out of it each time.

  • @bharathkumarosho
    @bharathkumarosho Před 5 lety +636

    Woah. Mind-blowing animation.

  • @gbart842
    @gbart842 Před 5 lety +406

    "Never use the word never."
    “I have freely chosen to embrace determinism”
    "There is no truth."
    “You should not judge”
    “The scientific method is the only means of knowing truth”
    “History is unknowable”
    “Language cannot carry meaning”
    “What's true for you isn’t true for me”

    • @fabianavalentino6304
      @fabianavalentino6304 Před 5 lety +5

      What is contradictory in "You should not judge"?

    • @coolest8614
      @coolest8614 Před 5 lety +71

      Fabiana Valentino Saying ''you should not judge'' is a kind of judgment

    • @gbart842
      @gbart842 Před 5 lety +48

      The statement is a judgment itself. You have to make a judgment in order to say "You should not judge."

    • @parvathisnambiar133
      @parvathisnambiar133 Před 5 lety +3

      I don't understand the fifth one

    • @gbart842
      @gbart842 Před 5 lety +61

      If “the scientific method is the only means of knowing truth” then you wouldn't be able to understand that statement itself, because it takes something other than the scientific method to understand it.

  • @Hakkyou13
    @Hakkyou13 Před 3 lety +4

    2:40 is the line I come back to. Letter and spirit of the law indeed

  • @jackbelinski2661
    @jackbelinski2661 Před rokem +6

    The idea of Koans could be helpful for writers engaging in the art of world building, because - and this is often hard for me to overcome - sometimes what’s important is not to explain something about a fictional world, but to ask: Why do you need an answer or an explanation?

  • @sirsupesafro7637
    @sirsupesafro7637 Před 5 lety +117

    *Frozone's wife understood this concept very clearly:*
    Frozone: Where's my supersuit?!
    Honey: *WHY* do you need to know?!
    Stay woke.

    • @Abdega
      @Abdega Před 4 lety +4

      IT’S FOR THE GREATER GOOD!

    • @dadagecha1311
      @dadagecha1311 Před 4 lety +2

      Why did I read that in her voice?

  • @unleashingpotential-psycho9433

    I like how there are deeper meanings to the monks commitment to their own answers.

  • @ThrottleKitty
    @ThrottleKitty Před 4 lety +77

    Monk: "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"
    Me: **rapidly slaps all my fingers against that palm over and over like a buffoon**
    Monk: **Disappointed head shaking**

  • @mightyone3737
    @mightyone3737 Před 4 lety +5

    I was introduced to this concept in university by an english professor, who pointed out that the famous Robert Frost poem about the two roads is a bit of a koan. Once one chooses a path, one cannot know how the others would truly go (unless one actually went down them), meaning the author is arguably lying that his choice made 'all the difference', since we don't truly know the outcomes of our choices, even if we think we do, in part because every choice has larger ramifications that aren't easy to predict.
    For example, what if you made a 'better' choice, but luck wasn't in your favour, and things go poorly? Was it the right choice? Technically it wasn't, but arguably it was... though in life, you'd probably prefer to have made the better choice over the 'technically correct' choice!

  • @ajaxzealand1530
    @ajaxzealand1530 Před 5 lety +6

    This is one the best Teds I’ve seen. The animation style and music makes it so captivating and almost calming despite the mind boggling subject.

  • @cassylk22
    @cassylk22 Před 5 lety +6

    His voice sounds so satisfying, i feel like i could listen to it for a long time

  • @PumpkinSpicePretzels
    @PumpkinSpicePretzels Před 3 lety +4

    Akida broke Monastic law, but so did Tanzen... so really, Tanzen's response amounts to "I'll do what I want and you're no better if you question me".

    • @Khunark
      @Khunark Před 3 lety +1

      Exactly. But he didn't do what he wanted, it wasn't selfish. He did what she needed. Which if that's also what he wanted is a great thing.

  • @somegoodsoup7008
    @somegoodsoup7008 Před 4 lety +49

    "I let the traveler there. Are you still carrying her?"
    *HOLY S**T YOU F***ING KILLED HER DUDE*

    • @ni3070
      @ni3070 Před 4 lety

      ?

    • @RLomoterenge
      @RLomoterenge Před 4 lety +1

      N I Jon Tron meme reference

    • @ni3070
      @ni3070 Před 4 lety

      @@RLomoterenge no idea what that is, but ty

    • @RLomoterenge
      @RLomoterenge Před 4 lety +2

      N I Jon Tron is a commedian. A “meme” is a running joke on the internet.

    • @ni3070
      @ni3070 Před 4 lety

      @@RLomoterenge 👍

  • @MONKEYDLUFFY-ci6wh
    @MONKEYDLUFFY-ci6wh Před 5 lety +62

    Am I the only one who want that ancient VR ?

  • @aidenfrost10
    @aidenfrost10 Před 5 lety +3

    Brilliant. Zen Buddhism is absolutely without a doubt one of the most enlightening yet difficult philosophies to master.

  • @RGC_animation
    @RGC_animation Před 3 lety +8

    "unsolvable enigmas designed to break your brain"
    Me: Isn't that all of Ted-Ed riddle?

  • @iNkenbiLL
    @iNkenbiLL Před 2 lety +2

    Buddhist proverbs and teachings always amaze me, I still remember the riddle played by three well-known monks: Chinlu, Chinawa and Chingas, about living and loving life no matter what the circumstances may be.

  • @monad5140
    @monad5140 Před 3 lety +55

    "Ahead they see an attractive traveler"
    2:14 *Nightmare fuel

  • @gbibhav
    @gbibhav Před 4 lety +6

    3:46 - knowledge from senses
    3:49 - knowledge from intellect

  • @karyryze5049
    @karyryze5049 Před 4 lety +1

    I can't express how much I love the art style and expressions

  • @anirr.c4498
    @anirr.c4498 Před rokem +1

    can we just take some time to applaud for the animation TED-ED brought to this video! its crazy good

  • @gautamsivakumar319
    @gautamsivakumar319 Před 5 lety +299

    The answer to the quote at the beginning of the video is snapping your fingers

    • @cookster69
      @cookster69 Před 5 lety +35

      Which finger makes the noise then?

    • @elim.4204
      @elim.4204 Před 5 lety +4

      TheCookieCrusader
      The human finger...

    • @Dee-jp7ek
      @Dee-jp7ek Před 5 lety +2

      TheCookieCrusader the one that isnt the thumb (some people use the index and others the middle). When you snap its that finger striking the fatty tissue at the base of the thumb that makes the 'snap'. You can cover that fatty tissue with your other hand then snap and hear that it's muffled.

    • @cookster69
      @cookster69 Před 5 lety +2

      Andii Neushul it's still neither. The middle finger caused the strike and the thumb reciprocated it.

    • @royzhu5735
      @royzhu5735 Před 5 lety +23

      Your binary thinking is failing to get you a satisfactory answer. The sound is neither the thumb nor the finger, but rather the contact both make with the air particles around them, which subsequently reach your ears and are translated as "sound".

  • @NIDELLANEUM
    @NIDELLANEUM Před 5 lety +4

    The first video I have ever watched on 2019. As such, happy new year to whoever would read this!

  • @SoirEkim
    @SoirEkim Před 4 lety +5

    When I love animations it draws me in like this video did. There animators followed a rule I found in “Ren & Stempy”. Another animation series I love, including their banded episodes. 🥰

  • @KusumKumariSingha
    @KusumKumariSingha Před 5 lety +1

    TED-Ed videos are so soothing that I am binging them.

  • @jcal1059
    @jcal1059 Před 5 lety +4

    Weird fact, despite this being a mentioned as a Chinese practice, kōan (こうあん) is the Japanese reading for the word. The Chinese reading is still gong’an (and written as 公案 in both languages).
    Wouldn’t be surprised if these practices existed in both cultures though as both countries are Buddhist countries and had a lot to do with each other throughout history.

  • @gobdovan
    @gobdovan Před 4 lety +19

    0:17 that left leg looks a little funny

  • @batticusmanacleas510
    @batticusmanacleas510 Před 2 lety +1

    This feels like one of the animators here is a veteran if the old Ren and Stimpy show. I kept expecting a Log commercial or a a weirdly drawn random shot of a close-up booger.

  • @rodscholl
    @rodscholl Před 3 lety +1

    The real koan, is how someone so distant from koan practice has invested this much effort and also gained such popularity on you tube. Sheez!

  • @deejayjuicebox7623
    @deejayjuicebox7623 Před 4 lety +6

    Wise man once said, "If you know too much, than you're not going to know enough."
    Riff Raff

  • @nischalsingh
    @nischalsingh Před 4 lety +7

    2:35 I have to give second thought there

  • @onesimonhaca1752
    @onesimonhaca1752 Před 4 lety +1

    This was short yet so profound.

  • @SailR108
    @SailR108 Před 3 lety +4

    Poetry are words used to express the inexpressible...yet, understanding can be transmitted...not unlike koans and symphonies 💞

  • @jabba233hutt3
    @jabba233hutt3 Před 5 lety +115

    The three monks story sounds oddly like Quantum mechanics 😂😂😂

    • @thingonometry-1460
      @thingonometry-1460 Před 4 lety +3

      How so?

    • @momirbaborac5536
      @momirbaborac5536 Před 4 lety +1

      Somewhat yes, QM is a concept since forever. It's just a name. Who's to say it wasn't partially discovered and designated differently many times in the past.

    • @johnlucas6683
      @johnlucas6683 Před 4 lety

      Interesting.

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety

      Peter Liu 1223 mind only. But don't get hung up on it. That's just here.

    • @ShivamGupta.31
      @ShivamGupta.31 Před 3 lety

      Tell me more please

  • @SolanaBonnie
    @SolanaBonnie Před 5 lety +8

    This was really interesting !
    Would love to see more Buddhism themes :)

  • @plixxit3922
    @plixxit3922 Před 4 lety

    I’d love to see more of these at some point

  • @quint1715
    @quint1715 Před 2 lety +1

    Alan Watts did a very good job at explaining the unexplainable

  • @adamlatosinski5475
    @adamlatosinski5475 Před 5 lety +67

    Isn't obtaining the answers the reason why we watch your videos?

    • @desamster
      @desamster Před 5 lety +7

      Adam Latosiński Good point. However, if we'd think we know everything, we wouldn't come looking. So there's merit to being open to not knowing. Which writer said we are floating on an ocean of knowledge/information? The more you come to know, the more you realize how little you know. And then of course, there are the fundamental questions of the how and why of existence.

    • @jonirojonironin5353
      @jonirojonironin5353 Před 5 lety +4

      The reason why I watch Ted-Ed's videos is to know that I know nothing.

    • @harshamalavalli9396
      @harshamalavalli9396 Před 5 lety +3

      It isn't to obtain the answers, but rather to explore the questions

    • @michaelserebreny454
      @michaelserebreny454 Před 4 lety

      Harsha Malavalli that's only half of it. What if the question is; "what do I do when you say you're in pain?"
      Is my task only exploration?

  • @josephmanning2129
    @josephmanning2129 Před 5 lety +13

    “Two hands make a clap,
    One hand makes a...” snap?

    • @worthlessanimations
      @worthlessanimations Před 5 lety +1

      Joseph Manning one hand makes a whoosh if you move it really fast

  • @adivaasadullah6442
    @adivaasadullah6442 Před 3 lety +1

    This animation made my day and made me feel euphoric thank u animator!

  • @emerald_echo
    @emerald_echo Před 3 lety

    this art style brings me joy

  • @thatlibrarian2004
    @thatlibrarian2004 Před 5 lety +136

    Thanks you Ted-Ed for always making such amazing videos on interesting topics with such good animation! It makes learning so much more interesting and fun! Could you please make a video on borderline personality disorder?

  • @theblackvoid
    @theblackvoid Před 4 lety +70

    Monks: Aim for no attachment
    Also monks: Want enlightenment
    Isn't seeking enlightenment also an attachment?

    • @bard5865
      @bard5865 Před 4 lety +54

      Welcome to the age long paradox of Buddhism

    • @mobychoc
      @mobychoc Před 4 lety +31

      How do you not desire to stop desiring

    • @CountingStars333
      @CountingStars333 Před 4 lety +24

      @@bard5865 Not a real paradox, since many Buddhists recognise that wanting enlightenment is also a want.

    • @CountingStars333
      @CountingStars333 Před 4 lety +36

      @@mobychoc By living in the moment and accepting life as it is. Buddhists don't just desire to stop desiring. They accept desires with friendly compassion.
      And then the desires go, as is the natural flow of life.

    • @mobychoc
      @mobychoc Před 4 lety +1

      @@CountingStars333 would you say we learn to live above our demons or undesirable desires?

  • @FlammieLL
    @FlammieLL Před 5 lety +1

    I love this kind of thinking, it's very easeful to my head.
    - It's not because you have 100 problems that makes your life difficult, it's because you have a problem with your 100 problems and making them 101 instead -

  • @kinhamid9665
    @kinhamid9665 Před 4 lety +2

    "The universe is complicated, and is under no obligation to make herself understandable to you"

  • @CeruCarmine
    @CeruCarmine Před 5 lety +8

    "The pear that was a hen dreams of a rooster"

  • @deeb3272
    @deeb3272 Před 5 lety +67

    12th Century: Koans
    21st Century: Memes

  • @maxnotreally6047
    @maxnotreally6047 Před 5 lety

    This animation is so good! Love the art style

  • @farahluthfy134
    @farahluthfy134 Před 3 lety

    I really LOVE the animation! I cackled when the the flag and the wind alternately appearing on one another. I love the animation style too ohh big shout out to the animators!

  • @helloworldlalala
    @helloworldlalala Před 4 lety +5

    "For these monks, blinding seeking answers was a vice to overcome, and learning to accept the mysteries of existence was the true path to enlightenment." Modern science would not have been possible for another 10,000 years with that attitude! And as cute as these riddles are, science has enlightened us much, much more.

    • @special-delivery
      @special-delivery Před 4 lety +2

      Science makes us Knowledgeable, it does not necessarily make us Wise. Zen teaches wisdom.

  • @nino3753
    @nino3753 Před 5 lety +10

    Yeah even though the monk with the "traveler" said what he said that doesn't suddenly absolve him of what he did and just deflected it. It is true that the other monk may have been holding on to that but it is not explained whether or not holding grudges/questioning/judging others isn't okay for them to do.
    In the second one it doesn't even matter. If there were a flag there then it was the flag moving, plain and simple. You cannot see wind moving. You can understand that wind MOVES flags but not actually see it in place of a flag. The third monks answer there is also just an aside where he comments that they're essentially "thinking" but that still doesn't change the subject at hand: the flag pole/flag.
    I'd like to hear more, hopefully they're actually more "paradoxical" than these.

    • @CDexie
      @CDexie Před 5 lety

      See, willing to assume we both live in a "western society", these koans are really beyond us, since we live in a post-enlightenment world. We can't grab hold of their entire meaning.

  • @jessefp1940
    @jessefp1940 Před 4 lety

    This is a really important video to me, thank you for making it

  • @bartman8876
    @bartman8876 Před 4 lety

    Good choice of Zen Koans. Two very well thought of examples.

  • @gretaanne6403
    @gretaanne6403 Před 4 lety +3

    Oh my, the 3rd monk... he's in another parallel universe with the two other monks. The drawing, I mean... 3:32
    He's adorable though :3

  • @Pennyadodumuss
    @Pennyadodumuss Před 5 lety +15

    If every mystery was solved, and every question throughout time and history was finally given an answer, there would only be one that shall ever remain...
    "Now what?"

    • @aleksythehorse5984
      @aleksythehorse5984 Před 5 lety +5

      It is my personal belief that this is attainable and desirable.
      Although the question "Now what?" have no definitive answer. That is the answer is "whatever you want".

    • @dudep504
      @dudep504 Před 4 lety

      @@aleksythehorse5984 im not here to say you're wrong, but we didnt even know why living beings live, why are they alive.
      And also, the beginning of the universe

    • @erick9348
      @erick9348 Před 4 lety

      @@dudep504 First of all, "living" is not a state of matter but just a concept created by us to easily describe complex configurations of matter which interact with each other to produce copies of themselves which are not made by humans.
      And we cannot know at the moment if the beginning of the universe is unknowable if there even is a beginning in the traditional sense.

  • @dankpepe2110
    @dankpepe2110 Před 3 lety +1

    There is this one koan I read and it goes likr this, there is this one pretty young girl in a village who got pregnant and after her parents knew this she was harassed by her parents to tell the name of the father and after long interogation she said its Hakuin, a Zen Master. The parents rushed to the temple and the Master can only say, "Is that so?". At this point, the Master lose everything but it didn't fazed him. He got everything he need and he raised the child. After a year, the young girl-mother felt so guilty that she tell the truth about the child and the father of that child is a fish vendor in the village. And the parents rush to the Zen Master to apologize and to take the child he taken care of. And the Zen Master give the child and he only said, "Is that so?".
    The title of that koan is "Is that so?"

  • @jackyarnton1732
    @jackyarnton1732 Před 4 lety

    reminds me of an expression, to get the best view, stand in more than one place.