The Cult of Teal Swan | Interview with The Deep End Documentary Creators Jon Kasbe and Bits Sola
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Teal Swan had a new documentary about her on Hulu called The Deep End. Teal Swan is a spiritual guru who uses new age ideas to help people with trauma and other mental health issues. While there are many questions about how Teal Swan helps people with their mental health as well as her net worth from her events and retreats, it's difficult to know if she's providing a positive service for people. The documentary had quite a bit of controversy when Teal Swan made response videos. So today, we chat with the creators of the Teal Swan documentary to see what it was like filming this series.
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B***** hoes**
You take the great J.P.'s name out yo mouth if you gonna be one to drivel on, predicating on your take on parts of things told by thirds, partially imparted, partly unheard, poorly conveyed through lax logic and weak words, brought about by the truly retarded and depraved.
...Sorry man! Just hate hearing the best of us portrayed by those who erroneously state what they think as something to know.
I don’t subscribe to teal - however she released the footage of Jon Kasbe and his teams birthday wishes to her and they all seemed so sincere and supportive - to the point they’d each expressed thanks for the difference Teal had made in each of their lives. The videos certainly didn’t match the tone and content of the documentary and shows a lot of blatant dishonesty on the film crews behalf. If they can be that deceptive on camera than who’s to say they can’t be dishonest in their depictions through this documentary. I suspect this documentary would make a momentary blip before being forgotten in the long run.
You have clearly never lived with a cult. I lived with a dangerous one. I didn’t know at first. Thought I had found home and there WAS a lot of love there. I still love them AND I can be truthful that they are dangerous whack jobs. Both things CAN be, ARE true.
I’m sorry but what is the actual point you’re trying to make here with regard to the video? I want to understand where you’re coming from more clearly.
And you’re absolutely right, I haven’t been a part of a cult. I’m not gullible and impressionable enough to go looking for acceptance within toxic communities.
They filmed for three years and one instance of them being nice doesn't mean their intent was to "trick her". Look. I followed Teal Swan from 2011 to 2020. I watched her every Saturday like a kid watching cartoons and still have most of her books. I flew to LA to attend a workshop. She helped me a lot and I eventually outgrew her work. However, people aren't always what they appear to be behind the scenes. EllenDeGeneress is a perfect example of that. Their tone towards the documentary probably shifted when she banished Blake, her best friend of over 20 years because he chose his wife over her. Also, her comment about not letting people in her house have kids was pretty messed up. It doesn't matter too much though. She does have a pretty loyal following and they'll just view it the way they're told to. I would've too.
@@shannonferris8362 Lets talk hypotheticals - Lets say you're wrong and Teal is a Narcissist running a cult. Do you really think these guys would be able to continue to do their work recording footage for the documentary if they just insulted/criticized teal? No. If they hadn't have treat her this way they may have been ejected from Teal's life completely and no longer able to capture their footage. You may have to do what you have to do to get a leaders confidence.
@edwardduda4222 It's her house. If they want kids they can leave. I wouldn't want to live with a bunch of people and their screaming kids either. A lot of landlords won't even let their tenants have pets when they aren't even living with those people.
And she's human. I've said and done a lot of stupid things too that I regret. If you record someone's life so intimately for years, you're gonna get some ugly shots because people are messy and ugly.
They could make you look like a monster too.
I was involved in Scientology for several years, so I know what a cult is. After watching Teal Swan for several years as well, I would NOT classify her as a "cult" according to a least a dozen specific characteristics. That said, I think that believing 100% in ANYONE is not healthy, and Swan is certainly no exception. I simply take what knowledge she may have, and ignore the rest, just as I do with anyone else. No one has all the answers and I am no "joiner," a particular wisdom gained from my 75 years on planet earth.
ADDENDUM: Whenever I seek guidance, I break down mental health methodologies into just two groups, the clinical psychology approach, and the spiritual approach. In other words, either going to a shrink, or going to a priest. Teal belongs to the latter group. In my opinion, her strength is in spiritual healing and not in the typical Western therapy/psychotropic drug category. To put a finer point on it, if I wanted marriage counseling, I would seek out a good marriage counselor, if I wanted to know "what a soul mate" is," I'd refer to Teal. In fact, when I was feeling particularly lost, I found myself strongly gravitating to Teal, and gained tremendous benefit from her teachings, but I have also learned much from mainstream Gestalt therapy. Two different approaches, but both potentially effective for the individual's particular needs. I don't believe there is any single path to truth.
Well said.
did you watch this documentary?
@@alekstomaszewska4312
No. For the simple reason I don't believe that she represents a "cult," the reason for my original reply, above.
@@tiffsaver😂 you're so deceived. She has psychopathic traits and led people a few people to commit suicide apparently....go watch the interview with her childhood friend and wake up
@@tiffsaver What was uncovered in the documentary is that her followers are not part of the cult, it's the people in her inner circle. The way she treats them and the contract they have to sign makes her a cult leader. I do agree with you though in "take what resonates and leave the rest on the table"
“Any time you’re in a position when you have someone else determining what is right or wrong for you, you’re putting yourself at risk.”
She teaches people to trust themselves though so how is this relevant
@@jennakfae darlin.....she may teach SOME good things (all leaders of destructive cults do).....but that doesnt take away all of the problematic things she done/continues to do.
@@jennakfae If she really wants people to trust themselves, why does she punish those who do so?
@@ActivationCoaching Exactly!!!
I'm not fan of TF but the comparison of her unedited video and audio vs what was shown in the documentary does paint a picture of deliberate deception by the film makers. Can they answer that?
Seems damn sneaky and intentional to me. Gain trust, then exploit it. They’re acting like infiltrated the CIA 😂
To be totally and completely fair, Teal does seem to have some unaddressed insecurities and a touch of narcissism, and this is what allowed her to be exploited, in my opinion. She should have known to NEVER trust the main stream, EVER. That is point 1. Hulu is main stream, period. The main stream has a solid track record for twisting, smearing, slandering and all sorts of other nasty things. This is their solid track record. She should have had her own film crew filming at the exact same time. Instead, she got her ego stroked by pleasentires, and ended up screwed over. The main stream has no problem doing harm to anyone, an then flipping it and gas lighting the people they've harmed. This happened a lot before 2020, and it happens a lot more since 2020. She should have known better.
@@psecdocumentary "A touch of narcisissm" - This really would be "comedy", if it wouldn't be so sad for all the traumatized people searching for help at the false door because of an underdeveloped ability to judge character.
@@psecdocumentaryyeah and its interesting to me, if she is so psychic how did she not know these people were lying to her.!
what's "her unedited video and audio"? is there more footage available?
It’s very disturbing how heavily and deceptively the documentary was edited. Maybe she is not perfect, but I don’t think these filmmakers can be trusted either.
Agreed
oh cmon! how could they be surprised by her reaction, the doc was totally a negative focus doc, they had to have known she would be upset about that! They had to have realized that this woman either A, didn't know she was a cult leader or B, they did a smear job. Do they really think Teal would be on board with a release like this? This makes no sense what they are saying.
Yeah, its all bias. There are very few objective main stream documentaries. Its all about what they think will get the most ratings, and therefore the most money. I'm sure the same 100s of hours of footage could have been edited to create a positive bias as well. An honest documentary would have focused on both the positives and negatives, and without spinning any context.
You didn't really get what they are talking about. Of course they are not surprised bei Teal turning down the doc. They are talking about the massive reality distortion Teal is applying, this is what is "crazy".
@@light_of_existence IDK I think they proved to be as manipulative and creepy as Teal personally and they justified it by acting like they brought justice to light. They definitely lied to her and manipulated her trust. People are adults, if they want to trust in Teal that's their right. Everybody always thinks they can justify their behavior of lying and manipulating acting like they are helping people which is probably what Teal does.....
Teal swan 🦢 was a mkultra child 🧒 through satanic stooges sticking there dks an crap in children to fracture the mind mentally as they mould them into the creature they become..
She has been extremely open about the trauma of being captured in a cult masquerading as Christians .
Teal had handlers that perused her..
I’m no fan of but teal is one of many ultras that have come forth in an attempt to stem the darkness in her mind that eats away at her from the past and present programming by the many handlers she has had
Have you ever listened to Teal Swans early podcasts from 12 to 15 years back
@@teklapeterson8126 so Undercover cops do t have to be Undercover for busting Pablo escobar
Whenever you follow a guru of any kind, you can't avoid being the victim of some type and degree of hypnosis. And that hypnosis will often advise you to watch out for being hypnotized by a guru. But that advice often solidifies the hypnosis if it makes you feel that all gurus impose hypnosis except for your guru, who advises you to be vigilant of hypnosis. And remember that if they can't hypnotize you, they'll traumatize you.
I would becareful using the term hypnosis for just this....shit Commercials, on TV are a form of hypnosis any suggestion made whether it is news media or a friend is a form of hypnosis. Day in and Day out everyone has been suggested to from a boss to a cashier. You can not be taken over unless you want to. No Chickens here, my friend.
It’s not about hypnosis. I got sucked into the cult I was never hypnotized
@@stacey_1111rh How did you get out?
here's what seems super dangerous to me
1. teal recruits groupies that are weak-willed, need rescuing and will never disagree with her and will never abandon her
2. person comes in that threatens teals sense of safety (power and control)
3. teal starts logically questioning the person as the group surrounds them in a circle, the groupies parrot whatever teal thinks and feels
4. the target/victim gets psychologically torn down by teal and her followers using intense group dynamics and pressure of exclusion and ostracization, which feels like being attacked by a wall of teal
5. teal gets off on this, it's a power trip
6. teal is recreating some sick game from her childhood, instead of healing it, she perpetrates it
7. teal is now the psychopath, if you call her on it, she does a victim-control dynamic, crocodile tears etc and triangulates in her followers using guilt, helplessness, indebtedness etc to bully you into submission, sick, sick shit to use her followers as flying monkeys, she can't fight her own battles without manipulating others to get them onto her side, poisoning them against the target
There is podcast with teals childhood friend
He child abuse story is false it's a satanic oanic abd there's no evidence for that she was cruel to her parents and made up Narrative. Apparently she said as a teenager that she was the wiccan goddess if sex and having men being easily manipulated
Teal Swan in a monster. I have been an addiction counselor/addictions registered nurse, codependency therapist for decades
Teal's approach to criticism is ruthless invalidation (often involving lying and misrepresentation)- in itself that would be an issue, but the worst thing is how hypocritical it is given how much transparency and 'truthfulness' she demands of others 😑
She's a narcissist IMHO. She uses Machiavellian triangulation, that's why you often see the "coterie" defending the narcissist, i.e. their "god" behave in an unhealthy , abnormal and unhinged way. When someone criticises their god, they get extremely abusive, they threaten your life and that of your family, they act like psychopaths. Many of the coterie are either broken individuals or lower level narcissists themselves. I've seen this same fanaticism play out with other narc's fans too for someone just stating a fact based neutral observation. Meghan Markle fans are one of the scariest ones I've seen abuse and threaten people verbally.
Teal was made an involuntary actor for a film she didn’t agree to act in: They had a narrative, they created the plots, villains, and heroes based on how they felt about certain moments. They try to act as though they were very balanced the whole entire time.
They are even being deceptive in these interviews. Obviously, they told Teal there were be an editing process. However, they told her they were going to do a hero’s story. Not turning this into a thriller.
I really enjoy your interview style. I do feel many found interest in Teal after being entertained by the Deep end. However, that’s what this is, entertainment. Not reality. Teal does help people find their own answers and much of her content is at no cost. She is a big proponent of shadow work which the sole purpose is the individual being their own healer. She offers meet ups and conferences to people who are resistant to healing.
Also, if people are going to knock her for claiming extra sensory abilities they need to knock every religion on the planet. As far as her saying nice things but having problems, that’s what being a human is about. We are all healing each and every day, saying a person with a platform needs to have less problems than the average person is a totalitarian type view, Teal always talks about shadow work which indicates we all have traumas and behaviors we must work through each day in order to live a more healed life. If Teal cannot have problems and have followers than neither can Beyonce, or any talk show host, nor can celebrities who have a platform advise on politics(things which impact the lives of others). This idea that imperfect people can’t lead the weak comes from a very unhealthy place.
If we applied the same standard to Kasbe who has admittedly had years of therapy, should he have the right to judge the tones of these experiences and draft a narrative at risk of his mental voids distorting reality?
Kasbe has a history of blurring the lines in his films. His documentary on Teal is utter nonsense. It turns clear language into gibberish.
🙏🏽 the ominous music in the episodes also really stood out to me. You can manipulate people into thinking that a scenario has a certain feel when you attach certain music.
@@Mt.Moonface EXACTLY! ❤️🙏
Lunatic followers here
@@Mcintyre123 Lunatic dissenter here.
@@jpeezy117 yes I’m not drinking the tea…so I’m not a follower good luck, hope all is well in your life.
I'm absolutely not a Swan fan (actually the opposite), but the editing of the documentary seems a bit unethical. As Documentarians I think they should know better.
Agree. I think they're being disingenuous
Ya, I agree. They clearly were willing to sell her one thing and deliver what suited them. There was enough footage of one event/moment to concern me.
I agree, I don't trust them or Teal.
How do you know how 700+ hours of film was edited? Were you one of the editors?
She’s got to you to and your not even a fan
Being transparent about editing but not transparent how it would be edited are two different ideas. Im confused about Jon and Bits being confused of Teals raw footage of the same situations. Are they saying that her videos and audio are fake and untrue?
Can‘t deny that she treated Blake just the way the other ex-member described how she treated him when he was about to leave.
And for her to say „that‘s men supporting him leaving me. They would wish his wife death if they knew.“ can‘t be blamed by the editing.
She helps some with her YT vids? Yes she does. she still has some unhealed trauma and may be projecting out of feat sometimes like we all do? I‘d like to say yes she does..
Even so she didn’t deserve to be painted like an abuser, no one’s perfect and she doesn’t claim to be
@@jennakfae she claimed on video that nobody can teach her or coach her. She seems to think she is an incredibly evolved being who never needs to accept critical feedback. That seems to be claiming that she is beyond correction. Yuck. That's Keith Raniere style.
@@ActivationCoaching that is not what Teal was getting at, it's totally taken out of context. Imagine going to a doctor for service and him saying, actually I have no idea what I'm doing. NO, you'd want him to be confident in the service they are providing. She is responsible for providing a solid foundation that helps many lost individuals. Some who are truly mentally disturbed. This expectation that she needs to cater to each human being as they want to be catered to is completely unrealistic. She is human too and has never claimed otherwise. There is literally a library of information that backs that up on her channel. Trust that, not these highly edited clips that again and again have shown they take things out of context.
Teal released unedited clips from the documentary on her channel, comparing them to the edited clips - which are disgustingly deceptive.
What do you expect, to put her hours of workshops in?
@@Mario_toma you don't understand. The clip was edited in a way that suggested that Teal was telling a lady in her workshop to kill herself. This was a complete lie and the actual unedited clip is completely different.
I don't particularly like Teal Swan, but those people seem like absolute deceptive frauds, like who sent them? She is giving free information, maybe the bigger ,sometimes abusive pysch professionals feel threatened.
@@ladev91 I just watched the documentary (with little prior knowledge of the subject) and came away with the impression that Teal didn't tell anybody to commit suicide. That's a pretty minor point of contention for Teal to focus on. The documentary even showed the private investigator explicitly telling Teal that she believed Teal was not responsible for causing suicides. My newly negative opinion of Teal would not be significantly affected by the response video you describe. Maybe there are other examples of deceptive editing though? But I don't think it's even possible for the most damning scenes in the documentary to be "faked" by an editor. Maybe in fifteen years AI will be able to do that, haha. But not a mere human editor working today.
@@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_oI would check out her other content and you can easily see how the editing doesn't line up with what she has been teaching for over several years now. She has been totally consistent across her career. This claim that she thinks she's flawless goes against everything she teaches. She believes everything on this planet has positive and negative attributes. It is said so many times, idk how at this point it is still going over peoples heads. Context is everything, and this editor left out a loooot of context.
I haven’t seen a video from Teal in many years, so the following thoughts are not from a fan’s perspective. Visually, the documentary was impressive. I now heard the producers and Teal’s perspective on the documentary. The first thing that comes to my mind is, you filmed for 3 years !!! and only produced 4 episodes? It’s obvious that you have to cut the footage down, but still, that’s a red flag. I also don’t buy that they were transparent with her at the beginning. Teal is not perfect, but these two knew exactly what they were doing.
After seeing the proof that Teal provided it is clear to me that these two are not trustworthy (If you haven’t seen the additional videos that she uploaded, go and watch). I’m surprised that Teal doesn’t have more footage that others made while the producers etc were there. I honestly would like to see the whole footage that they filmed, but releasing it would probably make the producers look even worse.
I wonder if there will be legal consequences for these two for twisting the truth.
It would be fair if they would reveal the original videotape...
I wish that you could have clarified the loving birthday wishes which Teal has posted on her channel. I'm confused about the friendship between the crew and Teal's team.
Exactly..
I assume it was necessary because if you’re not sycophantic to some degree you wouldn’t be allowed close enough to Teal to film for so long.
Was thinking exactly the same thing.
I wonder if they accept interviews with the condition that this won't be mentioned. It's a very valid question that no one in these interviews is asking. If they did lie and manipulate, that would be concerning.
They truly liked her but thought her work hurt some people and they filmed that.
This documentary was spliced/edited in a way to make her seem like a cult leader when the reality is she is not. Sadly drama gets more attention, and this is what this documentary creator was after. Teal has a lot of free content online that has helped me big time. I never had to sign up for anything or pay a dime.
Teal seems to have many insecurities and dysfunctions, but no -- in my opinion, she is not a cult leader. Does she has a cult of personality surrounding her? Yes. But thats actually not the same thing as being a cult leader. Trump and Obama both have cults of personality surrounding them, but I wouldn't call either of them cult leaders.
The whole problem is the word followers. You should never follow anyone. You should follow your self, trust your self, whenever I hear the word followers I get chills and not in a good way. And I am a retired therapist, I have been in therapy for over 30 years myself because I believe if you are a therapist you must be in therapy. Often times it is referred to as “supervision”“. A therapist will see another therapist weekly, review cases, and talk about transference and other subjects. but I have been an actual real therapy because my traumatic experiences will affect my work if I’m not careful. Besides the fact I needed to heal myself. Many therapists go into the field in order to heal their own trauma without realizing that they need their own therapy. Physician heal thy self and all that. I have had experiences with bad therapists. But I kept looking for a good one, someone who is credentialed board-certified and someone who helps me to face up to my issues to learn about myself in a positive way. I have been with one therapist for close to 30 years. I am not her follower and she would rather die than hear herself described as some sort of leader or guru. She’s simply a clinical social worker. If you have a bad experience with a therapist keep looking for a good one. There are many good therapists out there. Don’t run to someone like teal swan. Because this is absolutely a cult. She says one thing and does the other. And she can’t see her own shadow. Her methods are extremely questionable and dangerous. At the end of the documentary she would not even hug her very very dearest friend because he wanted to leave her cult with his wife. What a horrible woman and human being. And you must always run from someone who claims to know the answer, and to know the absolute truth. Because there is no absolute truth. Truth is different for each person in therapy. And that must be respected. teal “knows“ but never questions. All of her questions are designed to produce the answer that she wants and people want to please her. That’s one of the major problems in this cult. Too many to mention I could go on for quite a long time. My longtime therapist is now 93 years old so I have found a new one. When I was searching for a new therapist, I called a couple of people and had to leave messages. One woman called me back four times. That turned me off completely. Not a good sign. Many many years ago I had a therapist who, after a few sessions, told me not to come back because I wasn’t “telling her everything“. She didn’t seem to understand that therapy is a process especially for a trauma survivor. It’s a crazy world and therapists are only human beings with human failures.
The cult of self help. The new religion.
She wants followers and have strict rules on how they should leave. She intentionally picks weak people, tell them she has great powers and guilt trips them
Jesus had followers 🤣
What she says here 44:37 is fucked up, you cannot justify the editing just by saying it portrays Your feeling and Your experience, totally wrong, zero objective. How can someone trust the editing if you don't release a full conversation, it's impossible.
I was part of the "inner circle" and decided to leave, because I wanted to pursue other personal desires. I never felt like a "survivor", because there isn't anything to "survive". I was also at their apartment long after the discussed scene. I remember how sad they were having to move, because they were unable to extend their lease. I also never signed anything to not have children, nor was that ever a requirement, even after rejoining (wasn't pointed out in this interview, but I see it all over)... pretty devastating to watch all this. You think you're on some crazy pills? Yeah, I feel that...
That's very interesting. You should put out a video sharing your experience with Teal!
My impression of Blake and Juliana is genuine caring. Not blind obedience.
When Blake pulls the fish out of the bucket after they leave, I want to hug him. He doesn’t know how brave he is. Everything she said to him was her feelings projected. How could she be so cruel to him? She’s ego driven. End of story.
@@pnwlady He put people into the hospital, that's what that scene was about. It had nothing to do with him moving out. By that point he lived at his own place for a long time already - out of personal choice and before his partner arrived to the US. Also, no one's fault but his own if he doesn't care take his own pets. No one had anything to do with that, nor did that happen on the same day.
@@BeFruityBeFit Huh? He put people into the hospital? What does that mean?
@@BeFruityBeFit were you there? who did he put in the hospital? how and why? what does that have to do with lacking bravery or honor?
That was not a docu series... That was a set up. Ohhh you didn't see how the audience was directed to act by one of the "docu" film makers.. It's not a docu when the film maker is instructing the participants... No way.. This was just about money... Will never watch this "documentary"
Filming and explaining is all well and good - editing in a manipulated manner so as not to even maintain the integrity of context (piece meal in order to achieve your personal goal) would completely not be expected
Best way to get an authentic interview is by making the subject as comfortable as possible so they let you in. Cops do it all the time.
Just another example of Media BS - shame on you!!!
Why didn't the private investigator visit Teal and the people around her to see for herself if it's a cult or not? Did the PI really believe Teal's ex-boyfriend blindly without finding out if he is telling the truth or not? So many unanswered questions.
For anyone interested in seeing the perspective of the people that were filmed by this crew you can put “ Teal’s defense - SAVE Institute & Foundation” and the woman will show you what was really going on in one of the moments that they filmed.
I'm sure the documentary was misleading in various ways but there's no strong defense against some of the ways she behaves in it. There is no context in which a person could act the way she did and still be the excellent, highly enlightened healer she claims to be. In view of a reasonable person, she cannot recover from this and maintain her current career. (Of course this does not mean her career must end or even slightly falter because of the documentary, though, since her target market is made up of unreasonable people.)
@@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_onone of that means Teal Swan is a cult leader. Just like Mel Robbins, Tony Robbins, they all get labeled a cult leader if they have a large enough audience following. Some are. Ive never defended her before or follow closely but knlw her worn, Teal Swan is not a cult leader. That kind of slander could land Jon kasbe in a serious costly lawsuit especially if it has cost damages, and then All raw footage could be required in discovery. Theres no good to come out of what this director did lying and extortion to destroy a company is bad business. It will be lucky if he ever gains anyone elses trust to film let alone accept to participate on a project he proposes, and runs.
A business owners personality and how she has run her or His company is on them. I knlw people who have family companies that fight and jave screaming matches right out infront of all of the employees.
Does this mean their services and product are bad? Nope.
They're difficult people and to work for or as a client might be a grab bag of who knows what.
Does it mean i can go film a documentary that i tlee them will show them in the best light and then defraud them with slanderous and defamatory use of the media? Nope thats called a lawsuit.
@@o_o_o_o_o-o_o_o_o_o I'm offering another perspective. That's all. But I must say she never said she was enlightened. She actually says she's far from it. I, personally, don't believe in enlightenment, but I bought her books and watch her videos. I'm a normal reasonable person. Unreasonable is thinking that people that appreciate something you don't, are unreasonable. That's a bit naive and sounds a little arrogant. Anyhow... I'd rather not discuss these things... It feels like a waste of time.
My regards.
I don't remember whether she ever used the specific word "enlightened" but come on, she's on a messianic quest to save the world and she claimed (in the documentary) that no one could teach her because she was already the best. Whatever she was referring to there, whether it's enlightenment or something else, is incompatible with some of the foolish or nasty things she does on screen in the documentary.
A normal reasonable person, are you? You'd "rather not" talk but you still feel compelled to try to have the last word... you follow a New Age guru... yes, that's all fairly normal. The question of whether it's reasonable, though, is something else.
I'm from that "cult" and I'm striving in life! Healing my traumas, one by one. Forgiving my past and letting go. Yup, I love this cult, it has brought me great understanding and peace.
BS
You are following a pathological liar who has serious mental health problems. Good luck with that
@@ElanaVital83 if you walk the footsteps of a stranger you'll learn things you never knew you never knew (that's a song).
Anyways, what's BS? that someone can benefit enormously themselves and their family from the books and free content that this lady has produced and made available?
Are you sure? And if you are, I wonder how it is that you feel that way.
Take care!
that's great if it works for you! also, it's cult-like only in inner circles. it doesn't apply for wider audiences
@@luna5031 Did you seriously just quote a Disney song where they bastardized Native American history and think you did something? 🤣😂🤣
Teal Swan is an abusive cult leader. That's the BS. She doesnt help people, she copies Jung technique and plageurizes the work of others.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
The role of a teacher or spiritual leader is to hold space encourage others to find their power and own way and to empower them and spot them maybe. It shouldn’t be this “follow me I’ll show you the way” or “I know it all and am all that and that’s why your here following me” or this attitude that they have this special connection with the divine but you don’t etc… anyone does any of those things? A BIG RED FLAG 🚩
the director and the editing made her seem like cult leader
But this deception is wrong by these film makers
Yeah you can’t edit away that part where she encouraged her manager to say that about her. You hit the nail on the head. She wants her to empower you not you empower yourself ✌🏼
@@ei6728 She made her look like the cult leader she is. The editing argument holds zero weight. Unless your biased towards her then you’ll repeat what she’s saying like most of her followers are on this
@@jennybensaidane922 but deflection
Point blank they admit to editing the videos to how they felt their experience was. That's not how it works. You don't get to just edit things to how you think they should be viewed.... With that way of thinking you can make anybody you don't like look like the bad guy.... To act shocked at Teals response is ridiculous. Why would anyone share this much of their life with people if they thought they would be slandered. Watching her videos showing that these people acted like they loved her and where kind to her and then turned around and portrayed ber as some cult leader... I'd say her reaction to not shocking at all and is a normal react to getting used and played by people who pretended to enjoy who she was as a person...
Watch Teal swans videos about this doc. She shows clear and damning footage of how these frauds deceitfully edited the movie. I think Teal's kinda nuts, but this film is pure slander
First of all, thank you for doing this interview. It is so to be able to hear all sides. I put it in the resources section of my video I did on Teal and the Deep End.
Secondly, I can relate to the crazy pills feeling because when I was watching the Deep End I was still a follower and didn’t see any of the things she saw.
Her response and extreme reactions were what prompted me to look into her more, not the Deep End.
When you invite someone to create a project and publicly share your affirmation, respect, and gratitude towards and for that person, and then portray this person in a light that contradicts all of your previous attitudes that is called deception, and when you edit in a way that contradicts your attitude and intent at the time, that is just so disappointing..
Fortunately, we live in a world of free media, where access to information is easy.. I am not pro-Teal nor am I against her. Just intrigued and satisfied that one can do their own research and assess what is behind each person's story and how very subjective can it be.. Show biz sucks. This is Disappointing.. ..
I just watched the Mormon stories interview of growing up with Teal Swan. It was very eye opening and a great watch.
Exactly! It's such a heartbreaking watch too.
Never heard of her before. Saw on MS. People search for something and get into cults than raise their kids in it. Cult readers want power, adoration and money. Cults don't have to be religious and can be dangerous
it's no facts, all opinions, though...
@@AstroMartine these people have this expectation that she should be flawless, but will also demonize her whenever she shows any type of confidence in the service she provides. It's literally a lose lose situation for Teal, and I'm glad she's moved on from it. There is just no winning that argument.
I decided to leave a spiritual group because we weren't allowed to talk politics and things that bothered us. Anytime we did, we were bullied and harassed. The new age community can be toxic and corrupt.
Spirituality is deeper than politics.
Why would you EVER want to talk about POLITICS in a SPIRITUAL class?? Lmao
It was probably a good idea that you left, because a spiritual class is not a political class
@@micahsalas8963 say that ish again. 👏
@@micahsalas8963 Probably she wanted to talk about some ole occult ish that surrounded Donald Trump. 🤣😂
I haven't watched the docu yet, so I shouldn't really say anything about it. But from my understanding it shows on video the very same things that we have heard for years from people who used to live with and follow Teal. It's the same behavior from her, the same manipulation, the same putting people up against each other, the same drama, and the same hurting people. She hasn't learned a thing since she was a teenager.
Diana, her childhood and teenage friend recently did an interview on Mormon Stories where she describes how Teal made her believe she had repressed memories - as a teenager. She seems traumatized by Teal and is struggling in the interview.
Years prior to her coming out there was Cameron Clark (video interviews here on youtube), describing how Teal told her to get in her car and decide if she wanted to live or die. That is clearly a great approach, since her first client Lesley unalived herself after Teal told her the same.
Jared Dobson describes, also on the channel Mormon Stories, how Teal came on to him when he was contacting her for help. She later made him believe he had been this awful reptile in a previous life where he was hurting people, because she could "see" that.
Sarbdeep Swan, her ex husband, wrote a whole blog about her where he called her The Black Swan. The blog is since deleted, but in screenshots it's described how she was unfaithful to him, and how she manipulates a guy she just met, with telling him how they had been together in previous lives etc.
The writer Ghoste on the blog Celestial Healing, describes how Teal told her she had repressed memories, and how she had been in the same cult as Teal.
It's all the same story, it's all the same behavior, only this time it's on tape.
Spoken from someone who, once again, has done zero research on the matter and therefore have no idea what your actually talking about
@@hollytutin8535 Wow, you read none of what I wrote, it's all research on Teal and I bet you knew none of it. Another thing I can tell you is she used to tell people that unaliving themselves was fine, because it's a reset button that you can push at any time. Just search for "Teal Swan suicide katalyst" here on youtube, and you'll find a compilation on her flippant comments about it. And did you know Sarbdeep Swan doesn't want Teal to use his family name, but she still does it? All she cares about is herself.
So these guys spend more than 3 years recording in the Teal Swan inner circle and the most controversial and factual thing they could show was a love triangle drama between Teal, her best friend and his wife? Where's the cult material they have advertised so much? More like, The Shallow End.
YOOOOO too true
I'm not american, but this generation of americans sacres me. This righteouness behind defending "causes" or choosing sides, the viciousness and desire to go after someone and show they are WRONG etc...it's never been worse. It's a righteousness without integrity, without sincerity...without real empathy or heart. It seems to mimic the crazy politics going on in your country.
oh as an american i could not agree more😭
Has anybody else noticed the interviewer asks a lot of questions that should be directed to a psychologist and not just regular people that are just filming?
Coming here 11 months later to comment that I really wish more unseen, unedited footage would have been released...It feels like things blew over too easy. It makes me wonder if nothing extra was released as it seemed like the pressure and demand had diminished. I feel like there's tons of other stuff on all that footage that would be beneficial to see for all, no matter what side they're on.
Edit: wording
These two were clearly deceptive toward teal as evidenced by birthday videos. Who’s to say then that they wouldn’t be deceptive toward the viewers in selectively piecing together the version they want to tell?
If the documentary is accurate why they’re cutting bits and pieces off her videos and adding effects?
Because they had like 3 years of footage dude…
@@TheRewiredSoul then why are they ADDING clapping effects to moments where clapping didn’t exist? It’s very obvious they are trying to make the series fit a certain narrative…
@@TheRewiredSoul you and content creators defending such behavior in chase of clicks and attention is dangerous. One day you will live in a world where people push false narratives about others just to get the most attention. You never know it may be you next.
@@boldmeditations Exactly. These people need to create their own work and stop trashing others.
Never, will I watch anything with the names Kasbe or Sola tied to it.
Jon Kasbe must be a fan of Midsommar, because the documentary really took normal footage of healing, to a thriller / horror level. Shame
To gang up on someone by asking your followers to tell them what THEY think that particular someone really feels about you, is not normal. This is a type of abuse that I haven't seen before.
The “non-negotiables” list is all we need to know about Teal Swan and how she cannot be trusted. These film makers did not creat that list. That came from Swan herself.
Exactly. That list tells it all.
I was really curious where he son was the whole time. Like maybe she just chose to not have him filmed but they did show his picture in the film so obviously she wasn't trying to keep him hidden. And then the no newborns comment from her was alarming. I wonder how involved in her son's life is. Idk it was weird for me.
Same
😅
Forgetting Teal and anyone else, my sense of these 2 people is not genuine. I can trust my own gut feeling having lived in this world. When I watch Teal, I feel safe from her authenticity. This is a rare trait
Did you watch the deep end? Please do and make up your own mind then
The documentary is bullshit. The are the actual unedited clips on CZcams revealed. You guys edited everything and is so easy to put a negative tone to everything, specially when you EDIT clips. So sad for you guys. The director, Jon Kasbe specially, is a savage bully.
Very good interview.
Editing is a very delicate job that can completely change the message. If the cameras were on all the time, they have enough material to show Teal Swan's “egocentrism” and it is not necessary to edit in such a biased way. Producers, who call themselves documentary filmmakers, should not be biased or they should call the genre of their productions in which they give their strict personal opinion differently. From my point of view, Bits and Jon should continue producing, because regardless of the bad editing; the camerawork, sound, direction, etc. are very good.
Imagine if the film crew put this much effort into a project that would save lifes? Perhaps tackling the opioid epidemic or children being medicalized for everyday human psychological experience? Or better yet chopping at the root of both; the Pharmaceutical industrial complex?
Alas they all spent years infiltrating and lying to a woman who broadcasts on youtube. Well done ladies and gents, enjoy your 15 seconds of attention.
Very very interested who put them up to this?
That said I’ve gotten some stuff from Teal’s content but am in no way a big fan. Just an observer here. Checkout Teal’s release of the film crew’s odd birthday videos to her.
@HappyMe33 Fair point and well said but Teal is a youtuber. A small fish and while every life is sacred imagine the change they could make if they put that power into finding and exposing Epstein’s client list? It would shake the foundations of our world power structure and free untold people. People who have no hope and aren’t suicidal but are being fed like fodder to the rich, twisted, and powerful.
@HappyMe33 as far as meditating on death that’s a very common practice
Exactly
Jon Kasbe and dear Bits Soda, editing does not equal to take information out of context and put it in a place to match something in your mind. That is just bs! Definitely not a documentary series, but a Hollywood sensational story. Shame on you
Clearly, this "documentary" was a hit-piece. I was much more interested in learning about the participants' experiences and the healing work than the inner circle drama. (There will always be drama in any environment like that, and clearly, Teal was triggered by what happened with Blake. There is a lot of history there that wasn't shared with us.) After watching Teal's footage of the exact same pieces in the documentary, you ABSOLUTELY portrayed those interactions completely differently than they actually played out. Having said that, Teal did show us a side to her that was angry and controlling and kind of cruel. My ultimate goal is to interact with others with love and I would have really appreciated seeing more grace and love in the inner circle dynamics. Anyway, this whole saga has been a bit too much stress overall and I think this interview did a poor job of showing both sides. Everyone is just attacking Teal, and that just seems unfair. This "documentary" was shit. It showed nothing that benefitted my life or educated me. It's just manipulative drama he-said she-said. Bleh
Yeap. It was just out for drama they are using Teal's name to make money. Despicable
Enjoy the cult 🙄
I can’t believe the director and producer of a (now proved to be) hit piece is talking about «misinformation in Teal’s response videos».. Really guys?? What about the deception IN your series? (Teal’s finally been able to dig up some behind the scenes footage from the same events.) Misinformation is what this series was based on. When you actually dig into Teal’s work, you realise it’s actually close to nothing like it was portrayed. I’ve watched tons of her workshops and the rest of her detailed stance on nearly every subject there is. And how disrespectful to say her response videos «prove» she’s the person they portrayed in the series, regardless of the compliments she did in fact give them about the positive things about the series, while also being proffessional and clear about how and why what they portrayed do not compare to what actually happened.
I’d suggest people watch her two latest rebuttal videos where she genuinely proves some of the deception through her own team’s footage. «She has a lot to work on».. what a beautiful excuse to manipulate and abuse what she is about, for profit. She works on herself all day long and continuously speaks on how much work she does on herself, and this is what she gets in return..? She’s incredibly authentic and one of the most helpful (and intelligent) people I’ve ever come accross. If only the series was an objective and authentic portrayal. It isn’t, regadless of the excuses these people come up with.
I see some people certainly aren’t ready for what she has to offer. Especially those who struggle with facing their own shadows, which is part of the very work she does on herself (which can in fact be really deep and difficult work), and the very process she offers those who’re ready. Also funny that these people did ‘not’ mention that the private investigator concluded with that she did ‘not’ cause people to commit suicide. (Her work wouldn’t even make sense if that was the case.) The truth is she has a deeper way of meeting and understanding those who’re genuinely suicidal. Maybe not that surprising as she’s tried to commit suicide 4 times in the past herself. The level of pain someone has to experience to truly understand someone else’s, is apparently very severe. And now she gets crucified for her radical compassion, which doesn’t necessarily ‘look’ the way you’d expect from the outside when you’re not in the depths of that pain yourself.
If teal is extrasensory and has the ability to read minds, see thoughts, detect lies, see through skin literally, go out of body, access the mind of god etc etc. why didn’t she see through these filmmakers Immediately? Instead she got duped for years. Something doesn’t add up, use your head.
My exposure to Teal is through her videos. And I watched her rebuttal videos before watching the Deep End. It’s clear you are deeply engaged, I mean no offense but the cult aspect was the bulk of the show. Her interpersonal circle, which she dominated.
There are many ways and perspectives, while she may have some knowledge there are more and better teachers. 💜
here's some of TS psychic claims to just START.
by her account she is an actuarian alien who was made beautiful and white so aliens could get people to follow her and her "mission" (yes she did indeed actually say this) she can read people's thoughts/see auras, see there energetic patterns, see there life paths, she can see and channel dead people, she interdimensionlly travels, she can put books under her pillow when she sleeps and can absorb all the information (she doesn't have to read them), she can visit people in they're dreams, can see everyone's past lives, can visit the akashic records and isn't limited to "time space reality".....thats not even all of them, that's literally the ABBREVIATED version lmao
TS satanic cult claims
She also claims she was in a satanic cult for 13 years filled with crao ton of Mormons that murdered immigrant children, she also says she was sewn into dead bodies, and the cult didn't kill her because she was special and psychic so they drank her blood to gain her powers. (She was also supposedly modeling WORLDWIDE during this time) She said the cult leader would pick up her up nightly at 3 AM every morning for up to 10 years without her parents knowledge to perform cult rituals with her and the cults followers) she was also treated with electroshock by this cult so they could make her unable to do "normal everyday things" to keep her under they're influence. These electroshocks made her not able to plug In appliances, or start a laundry or do any other chores such as washing dishes, because of this those who live with her have to do those things for her 😂😂😂 Her old therapist is barbra snow who was a leader of the 80s "satanic panic" Barbara had her license revoked due to instilling false memories into numerous clients believing they had been satanically abused when they hadn't been.
She has also told inside followers to kill themselves (these people were Cameron clark and Jared dobson, who gave interviews about the hell they went through with her). She also tried to make them believe they were all apart of the same cult and abused in said cult but didn't remember because it was a "repressed memory" (I watched her do this) This caused one of her inner followers to have a psychotic break and caused another inner follower to accuse a family member of SA that never actually happened.
She says suicide is a "reset button and by universal perspective there's nothing wrong with suicide" and actually legitimately caused a personal client of hers to kill herself. She also plagarizes almost all of her material and then claims it as all her own.
Shall I keep going? Because even after that entire long ass comment, that's STILL isn't even ALL OF IT. She needs to be held accountable for her actions. I was a follower for 4 years in my teen years and I was also deeply mentally affected by her beliefs on suicide. I also became highly delusional because of her.
Teal swan is a deluded and dangerous, narcissistic, mentally ill cult leader who has hurt MANY vulnerable and mentally ill people (her target audience)
To her followers: Open your eyes and stop enabling this predator and do some real research. This behavior has been going on her entire life. People aren't just pulling this out of there ass. She's lied about severe abuse which hurts actual victims. She has no credentials to be doing anything psych related and is as phony as a 3 dollar bill....,,,,,,
@@seanblake1768 you can do shadow work and still lie.
I wonder why none of these interviews to the film crew are asking about the birthday messages. Did they act like they loved her and like they saw how amazing her work was to manipulate her and her team? Would that be ethical?
Teal's claims about the editing are distorted like most of the things she says. However, there is a very deceptive scene on part 3 during the waterbreathing exercise. Teal hasn't brought this up, but one of the people who attended that retreat made a video explanation about it. In this scene, they show a woman saying "I love you" to teal after the water breathing exercises and the editing tries to make it seem like this person is Sabrina. This person is not Sabrina and it has been proven by the person who appears as Sabrina in the episode. This is concerning because with the story they choose to tell with Sabrina on that episode, this would be a clear example of trauma bonding, and that's serious and not something that should be manipulated with editing. Using a different person in this scene is deceptive and problematic. Thankfully, Sabrina has left teal's cult and is no longer a follower, but her story has been manipulated to represent things that didn't actually happen.
It's also interesting that they will answer to some of the insignificant editing examples that were brought up in this interview, but when asked about the scene with Sabrina, Kasbe has said he won't discuss the editing or go into detail to avoid giving an answer.
yeah at this point think Kasbe is as creepy as Teal. I have lost faith in all of them.
I watched fur The Deep Dive last night, although Teal does have some powerful points to consider addressing beyond that in my opinion she’s a highly manipulative narcissist!! I watched a couple of her videos addressing the documentary and wow, I’m my opinion she’s dangerous!
Yes, these narcissistic and manipulative people are very recognizable once you've seen a few of them.
Her free content and books are not your cup of tea I guess Monica, and that's okay.
Take care
That's what I like about her
Hey, I think the psychology you're looking for is better explained by Dr. Steve Hassan ( a mental health and cult) expert, Teal follows a pattern Steve explains pretty well and clearly.
She gets off on other peoples pain. The people that made this series watched how she acts and portrayed her exactly as she is. A total vampire.
What experience did u have with her?
She is pretty strange, that’s for sure.
What happened, we’re curious.
@@yvonneskoczek6152 she’s a liar and plagerist. She just puts her name on everybody else’s shit and laughs about it. Now her stomach is all fucked up and she’s having surgery on it over and over again.
Yeah, she has a history of abusing people. She contradicts herself a bunch which makes it hard to believe her outlandish back stories. After had following her for a while, I started to see the covert narc. There are stories of people that have lived with her that she has bullied.
I wish this documentary wasn’t created by people who had to deceive and mislead Teal for three years into thinking they were on her side. That must be traumatizing for her to go through such a betrayal.
Lying to a liar. ggg
Imagine if you discover that teal was lying for your whole life
The whole point of being in service is to meet the needs of the individual or group. Not a title, or ticking boxes. But also, we're not infallible. Feedback and growth is essential. What I didn't hear is that they proved her service equals someone committing suicide, yet they have no problems linking that. It's not about the filming, it's the editing to align with a narrative Teal obviously did not agree to, and that's wrong.
The Hulu program didn’t show her service as causes people to commit suicide.
It did show her abusing and manipulating people who’s entire identify and well-being were dependent on her. There were times when her ego was engaged and took presidence over helping them.
@@pnwlady There was 3 years of filming that was wittled down to minutes. It's the story the director and producer wanted to tell.
Also Teal proved definitively that these guys did actually edit their videos to show a particular narrative that was not the actual truth. Perhaps they did it for their own recognition and fame but either way these guys do not have any integrity. It just makes the interviewer look like he lacks integrity too by getting these guys on and siding with them with his slant on interview questions.
I guess it’s like a modern day version of a “witch hunt” and those that caught up in the excitement and jump on the band wagon. Pretty sad really the lack of insight going on here.
I think the bottom line is she is a human being, therefore she is fallible despite her claiming and forcing the idea otherwise. As a human she is subject to the same range of emotions, flaws, ego, desires, motivations, etc. She's very egotistical and arrogant, but we all are - and that's a part of the human condition, but we're not running around claiming to be otherwise. It's her need to push this otherworldliness and superiority.
Having been in a small cult situation for a while, I can say with honesty that this is a quality that is used often.
No... Hers was not a 'different reality'! She was not living in reality at all 🙄
Why wouldn’t she criticize you guys creating a fake show about her??? That depicts her as a psychopath????? Wtf??? She’s not criticizing actually, she is showing the truth. The differences from reality that you guys created is disgusting, next time make a tv show that’s not a fake documentary. This is gross
This all freaks me out. Watch 1 and 1/2 episodes of The Deep End. I stopped because she seemed (I could be totally wrong) overbearing and cocky. Why cocky when you are trying to help people? Also why I stopped on the 2nd episode is that she was speaking to a young woman who is so confused that she can't find happiness or a reason to live and Teal asked her, well why are you still here??? WTF. Why would anyone ask an obviously depressed ,, sad and needy person that question? I thought great, that will make anyone want to off themselves. I keep thinking of Jim Jones when I was younger and I have a deep feeling that something is wrong with this whole gig........Please be careful followers and don't drink the freaking Kool*Aid....
There's a difference between opposing perspectives and downright lies and manipulation to make something fit a narrative. PERSPECTIVE VS NARRATIVE. But kudos on your film making skills
can’t understand the fascination with her cause all i kept heard her saying is the same thing over and over, her mother was scared of her, right there tells you everything, she’s never been told off, and they could edit to within an inch but no one can edit the ranting meaness from her, she wanted that girl gone, the conversation about what will it take to get you to leave , she meant paying her off to go, the german girl was not buying her shit and i truly believe if them cameras were not there, the girl was in danger, teal killed then fish! and the girl was going like the fish, she was looking more ill every scene, shes another scientology leader like miscavo, i was dying to see her get challenged over the money, cause they we’re getting fuck all , when she was denying the rules was just right there unbelievable, but even the beginning looking at the kid with the face tattoo like he was shit, she has sussed that people want to have problems and she gives the therapy obsessed west what they want! ueah she didn’t ask uou to stop cause she doesn’t know she’s psychotic!!! she believes her own shit!!!
Wow I just came across your interview, it's great.
But I don't see any other content from you since a year ago.
I clicked on your link in the comment section and it said the account was non-existent.
So where do I find you?
My husband has a channel. CZcamsrs get to know each other. I've watched people completely unwind on air over the years. The channels that most disgust me are the ones that make videos trashing other content creators. Do something original and stay in your own lane would be my advice.
Bits on Jon put themselves in a quiet innocent space, but to stay all time during the filming together with Teal and her group in such an inauthentic way is not puting them in a trustful position. Possibly they sold the project to a truly poor need to reach a broader viewership, instead of reaching to the ones who are ready for the message. All the best for your process, so that in future you don't need to harm the authentic work of people like Teal. Release all the footage would honor you deeply
Omg Chris where have you been??? I just found this video and learning about teal swan! Seeing your face brought back so many memories!
They should do an interview with Teal Swan, Jon Kasbe and Bits Sola. This would be interesting!
If Teal's methods work for certain people then what does it matter? If it's not for you then it's not for you.. Doesn't mean it isn't for everybody.. Just keep it moving.. Take what resonates, leave the rest. Live and let live. The end.
It matters because she's hurting people.
@@coldwhitespring5004 who is she hurting though? the haters who claim to know this woman?? the people putting out false shit and destroying her publicly for what? if you watched any of her shit, you would be able to recognize that she does not promote suicide, she IS a victim of suicide herself, and understands the emotions, feelings and thoughts that go through someone who just doesn't want to be alive any more due to circumstances that became too much to bare. she understands all sides of it because she's not afraid to look into parts of life that no one else is willing to talk about, but SHE is because there are people who might benefit from someone who understands the feelings. no one who wants to kill themselves, wants to actually be dead, they just want an escape from the darkness they may be feeling or facing. she's here to let others know they aren't alone... there's no amount of comforting words you can give to someone on the brink of suicide, but you can sure point them in another direction. i am sorry that your mind is so fickle and that you have no ability to even step into this role. how strong a person must be to do the dirty work... something youre not anywhere near capable of because all you have is your "opinions" and bs from other people who are too self-absorbed to see what she's trying to do.
@@coldwhitespring5004 Many people say that she is helping them.
@@HerMajesty1 It doesn't justify her abuse.
@@HerMajesty1 i dont think It really matters or at least not everytime, like when you buy sigaretts, you can say the seller is helping you
You guys ruined it for yourselves and now we cannot take your highly edited documentary seriously. I would’ve loved to see the truth but that’s not what you did. You all deceived her to get her to be more open and honest and then you edited it to make it way more sensationalized.
Anybody who gives me a surge in anxiety & the feeling of stress hormones blasting through my entire system through a television...I'm good, as regards that lady. I genuinely hope the people whose well-being takes a back seat to her ego can say the same, whether they're in, out, whatever.
"Growing up with Teal Swan" is worth watching. It seems that she had a therapist who sent her down the crazy "recovered memories" path
"Ownership of the conclusion" "when I have a breakthrough its mine". I think these two statements are very important in this discussion.
The interactions/diagogues that were depicted in the documentary are clip-chimps of different things people said at different times. It's not what was actually being said back & forth. They spliced it together to make certain interactions with Teal look like she's narcissistic (when her real responses were something totally different and quite humble). It's a blatantly false documentary. I was hoping to get some unbiased information about Teal Swan, but you basically get nothing from it because of how completely deceptive the film was.
So did they know they were coming into this deceitfully?
What does the title of this video have to do with what was discussed?
Im not a Teal Swan groupie. However, why all these haters making vids trying to trash her?
What do YOU have to offer?
If you do anything besides insult and tear down others, let us know so WE can trash YOU!
Leave Teal Swan alone.
It is clear how much Bits and Jon respect Teal to me. If this is their first docuseries my New understanding is that you have not learned “theme” in editing.
I think the whole show just needs to be cut 500 times to make up one collective inch
When people start and stop saying a sentence has lay lines
She’s a Gemini.. and that’s all I really needed to know 😆
Uhm what??
@@Andalaeknir86Gemini's are know to lie
They completely manipulated and betrayed her trust - people attack those who shine because they need to find fault and judgement, such a shame
Saw you in FD signifiers video. I am happy to see you back, much love
So these peanuts dont explain why they sent teal loving birthday messages and spoke at the retreat as if they were part of the inner circle
Went undercover to get to the gritty bits, duuh.
here's some of TS psychic claims to just START.
by her account she is an actuarian alien who was made beautiful and white so aliens could get people to follow her and her "mission" (yes she did indeed actually say this) she can read people's thoughts/see auras, see there energetic patterns, see there life paths, she can see and channel dead people, she interdimensionlly travels, she can put books under her pillow when she sleeps and can absorb all the information (she doesn't have to read them), she can visit people in they're dreams, can see everyone's past lives, can visit the akashic records and isn't limited to "time space reality".....thats not even all of them, that's literally the ABBREVIATED version lmao
TS satanic cult claims
She also claims she was in a satanic cult for 13 years filled with crao ton of Mormons that murdered immigrant children, she also says she was sewn into dead bodies, and the cult didn't kill her because she was special and psychic so they drank her blood to gain her powers. (She was also supposedly modeling WORLDWIDE during this time) She said the cult leader would pick up her up nightly at 3 AM every morning for up to 10 years without her parents knowledge to perform cult rituals with her and the cults followers) she was also treated with electroshock by this cult so they could make her unable to do "normal everyday things" to keep her under they're influence. These electroshocks made her not able to plug In appliances, or start a laundry or do any other chores such as washing dishes, because of this those who live with her have to do those things for her 😂😂😂 Her old therapist is barbra snow who was a leader of the 80s "satanic panic" Barbara had her license revoked due to instilling false memories into numerous clients believing they had been satanically abused when they hadn't been.
She has also told inside followers to kill themselves (these people were Cameron clark and Jared dobson, who gave interviews about the hell they went through with her). She also tried to make them believe they were all apart of the same cult and abused in said cult but didn't remember because it was a "repressed memory" (I watched her do this) This caused one of her inner followers to have a psychotic break and caused another inner follower to accuse a family member of SA that never actually happened.
She says suicide is a "reset button and by universal perspective there's nothing wrong with suicide" and actually legitimately caused a personal client of hers to kill herself. She also plagarizes almost all of her material and then claims it as all her own.
Shall I keep going? Because even after that entire long ass comment, that's STILL isn't even ALL OF IT. She needs to be held accountable for her actions. I was a follower for 4 years in my teen years and I was also deeply mentally affected by her beliefs on suicide. I also became highly delusional because of her.
Teal swan is a deluded and dangerous, narcissistic, mentally ill cult leader who has hurt MANY vulnerable and mentally ill people (her target audience)
To her followers: Open your eyes and stop enabling this predator and do some real research. This behavior has been going on her entire life. People aren't just pulling this out of there ass. She's lied about severe abuse which hurts actual victims. She has no credentials to be doing anything psych related and is as phony as a 3 dollar bill....,,,,,,
@@trllmnella7259 I didn't read it all, but I'm of arcturian origin myself :) Slightly less attractive tho.
Thumbs way up brother. You hit on all the questions I had. Much appreciated!
TEAL SWAN IS A QUEEN
Time to pay the taxes for the Queen
Does somebody here know where to watch the documentary from Europe? Would love to see it!
It is sad to see what people decide to focus on. The reality of every human being is that we are not perfect. If you idealize anyone you will be disappointed. Teal is helping many people and, of course, making mistakes on the way. So what?
We would all benefit if these film makers spent their energy on something constructive and not wrap their own lives around someone else. Sad!
Sounds like you are doing the same here. Mistakes are ok. No accountability is dangerous. Teal is not just making mistakes. She wont own anything and her reactions are destructive to vulnerable ppl
Go watch the interview with Diana Hansen Ribera on the channel Mormon Stories. She's traumatizec by Teal.
@@jasminabourgeois7434 yes, she Is not perfect, with all extrasensory stuff, but you have to be perfect
In what universe of three whole years of this whole process was there not a sign off that was required from Teal's end before the episodes got publishes?
I wonder if Teal plans to sue them.
I can't see what she can sue them for?
@@coldwhitespring5004 I'm not a lawyer but curious if misrepresenting themselves and their intentions would be cause.
@@coldwhitespring5004 Go to Teal's channel. She has video proof that things happened completely differently!!!!
@@luceymajor I know, but I don't know that that's enough grounds to sue them. I believe documentary makers, and platforms that air documentaries, are pretty good educated in what they can air and not, or they would be sued all the time.
@@luceymajor no they didnt. For 9y i was watching her stuff and was part of TT and Teal's behavior towards members and Blake was appaling in light of the documentary. She took zero accountability, was running a Blake blaming narrative while exhibiting obvious abusive behaviors towards her manager and anyone who opposes her as can be seen editibg or not. When I challenged her about dbl standards and her Blake demonization project she used "what game are you playing" and "me teacher you student" to avoid responding. I believe she is trying to control the narrative of the inner circle legally and through emotional manipulation. Her nonnegotiables are telling. This is coming from someone who was defensive of her for years. While waterboarding scene is bs, Teal's reactions are telling of her narcissistic tendencies and harm she causes due to them
Jon and Bits,
I dislike the fact that you misrepresented healing techniques such as water breathing to look like waterboarding. I dislike the exaggerated bday messages as they make you look really inauthentic and maliciously calculated. I understand that your motive was to show the truth and that you believed the ends justify the means or maybe even wanted to show kindness to Teal in bday messages despite seeing her destructiveness. You have accomplished showing Teal's effect and behaviors well and I get that the ominous music was a representation of your feelings and what you wanted to make seen throughout the documentary. But I feel like the ends do not justify the means and that you didn't just document Teal's harm which was eye-opening, but also documented your own destructive behaviors. You could have been kind and polite without going overboard and lying about your feelings towards Teal in those exaggerated bday video messages with poems and what not. You could have focused on what was actually harmful instead of skewing shamanic practices to look like drowning people (though this I can see that it may have been a misplaced projection of the harm you have observed Teal do in other contexts). But, no, you are not innocent either, and while your documentary brought a lot of good in terms of exposing Teal's narcissistic tendencies and mental health struggles which negatively and harmfully affect others, you did not act ethically and have exposed your own shadows as well. When I say ethically, I do not mean painting her in a negative light as that was absolutely ethical and bears truth to what happens there, I mean feeding her ego to such an extent as to retain access to her. Kindness is different than manipulation. And this makes a huge difference when it comes to trying to help people see the truth when you are not yourselves being truthful and therefore those who need to become aware of Teal's destructiveness the most will automatically not take you seriously but will think you are liars.
Hm, is it really shocking and surprising that they would be upset with the way they've been presented (even if it is true). I think that what they did with this documentary was very sneaky and dishonest and it is hard to respect people who would behave in this way...That said, I can see that if they believe she is hurting others, they can excuse their own dishonesty and low behavior. I think that someone who would have been drawn in to her circle would not change their mind just because of this film. I've watched her words, the documentary and all I can find on it...I believe she's been misrepresented by editing, and *also* that she is abusive to those in her inner circle. I also think she does have an important perspective on the world and spirituality that is important for some people to hear.
A true leader doesn’t want followers they want people to lead themselves, find their own voice and question everything even them. Never become dependent on anyone except yourself. If a influencer doesn’t understand this then I would question there motives.
There's a line between a spiritual guide and a medical practitioner, especially a psychiatrist
and a cult leader.
Sorry Dude. I see you did not directly and honestly ask them what their position is towards the reaction of Teal Swan.
Everything was through flowery words. No directness, you are just trying to appease them in order to not have an emotional uncomfortable situation.
Who, when, how, how many, and when did people commit suicide because of Teal Swan????
literally no one lol. a girl who was a fan of teal's youtube vids took her life and so her parents tried to sue her just because of a video she put out that talks about death:/
@@woodyskidgel6930 hahahaha🤣
Interesting interview. But I would love to know why Bits Sola wished Teal Swan happy birthday in a ridiculous rap song she wrote herself?
Well right out of the gate you said it, you didn’t really look into Teal Swan, which shows you don’t have the first clue of what you’re talking about - because you don’t do your research. 🙄
here's some of TS psychic claims to just START.
by her account she is an actuarian alien who was made beautiful and white so aliens could get people to follow her and her "mission" (yes she did indeed actually say this) she can read people's thoughts/see auras, see there energetic patterns, see there life paths, she can see and channel dead people, she interdimensionlly travels, she can put books under her pillow when she sleeps and can absorb all the information (she doesn't have to read them), she can visit people in they're dreams, can see everyone's past lives, can visit the akashic records and isn't limited to "time space reality".....thats not even all of them, that's literally the ABBREVIATED version lmao
TS satanic cult claims
She also claims she was in a satanic cult for 13 years filled with crao ton of Mormons that murdered immigrant children, she also says she was sewn into dead bodies, and the cult didn't kill her because she was special and psychic so they drank her blood to gain her powers. (She was also supposedly modeling WORLDWIDE during this time) She said the cult leader would pick up her up nightly at 3 AM every morning for up to 10 years without her parents knowledge to perform cult rituals with her and the cults followers) she was also treated with electroshock by this cult so they could make her unable to do "normal everyday things" to keep her under they're influence. These electroshocks made her not able to plug In appliances, or start a laundry or do any other chores such as washing dishes, because of this those who live with her have to do those things for her 😂😂😂
She has also told inside followers to kill themselves (these people were Cameron clark and Jared dobson, who gave interviews about the hell they went through with her)
She says suicide is a "reset button and by universal perspective there's nothing wrong with suicide" and actually legitimately caused a personal client of hers to kill herself.
Shall I keep going? Because even after that entire long ass comment, that's STILL isn't even ALL OF IT.
Teal swan is a deluded and dangerous, narcissistic, mentally ill cult leader who has hurt many people.
You sound like her #1 fan 💕
I love this…thank you. So true. If she is able to read ppl I challenge her to come on over to my dreams and find out who I am, if this is the case. Lol. I double dare her. She will not do well in this area of spirituality. She is using people that are on edge in life and they can be easily blinded. Which in result of makes her seeming like a savior is the key to her thus far success. This will end and she is exposed now.
@@Mcintyre123 that is the exact reason for her success! Those who fall for her are the ones that are highly vulnerable, and are in such a bad places mentally that they are desperate for answers and some sort of meaning to they're pain. When someone comes along and claims they've been through the worst type of pain you can possibly imagine and somehow made it to the other side, and has ALL the answers straight from this godly source, that sometimes can be much to tempting to pass up when all you do is search for some sort of relief to your depression or pain and nothing works. Especially when someone with as much charisma as teal comes along claiming to know how to stop said pain..I know it was for me at the time when my depression hit its peak. Teal is dangerous and disgusting for this. She knows EXACTLY what she is doing and she knows she is a fraud and hurting mentally ill people. I mean she tells these people medication and therapy wont work for them for fucks sakes! She's a Dangerous and deplorable human being.
@@trllmnella7259 Yes on everything you said! People are seeing these truths you speak about. When she speaks on other peoples video she is revealing her true self as a dweller beneath our frequency. She feeds off of the sufferings energy. I seen past he mask from day one. Glad you are not in her web of lies.
Is this in the film or somewhere else